debbie311

I agree. Trump looked like "Oh shit." He's going to find out that it's one thing to campaign to adoring fans and quite different to have to stay in the White House and actually work. Does he even have a clue what he is in for? Someone on Facebook posted about the fact that the traditional photo of the Obamas and Trumps at the White House was cancelled and they are blaming Michelle, saying she cancelled. Of course this was a link from a conservative news source. Michelle is way too classy and professional to throw a fit and say no picture. Saying such mean spirited things about the Obamas. I cannot wait until after the inauguration and they can stop blaming everything on them. Or maybe they won't.

I am a Democrat and proud of it, but I sometimes watch Fox News to get the other side, and sometimes listen to Rush Limbaugh, who is a vile man. Just now, I heard him say that Republicans should not want unity with Democrats, that they should view Democrats in the same way the United States viewed Japan during WWII! And he is already setting the stage for Trump caving on some of his promises -- and blaming the Democrats!! What! You idiot! Your guy won. Stop blaming the Democrats for everything! I am livid. He is poison. I am willing to move on now, but, and my husband predicted this, they will continue to blame Hillary and the Democrats when they fail in years to come.

I'm feeling better today. I got into it with a couple of pro-Trump family members yesterday, in person and on Facebook. I felt drained. I read an interesting article about why Trump won. Basically, the people in the rural, rust-belt states are angry because they are no longer a part of the middle class and they are angry at the "elites." They want to be able to earn a good living with a high school education. They are not happy with same-sex marriage, abortion, etc. I am no authority whatsoever, but it sounds like they want to turn back the clock. In some ways I feel free today. No pressure. I REALLY wanted Hillary to win. But I know that if she had won, she would have faced a roadblock for everything she wanted to do (just like President Obama). Trump has made some HUGE vague promises and now he will have to come through. Now we can just sit back and wait for him to fail. I know that makes me sound bitter and small, but it's how I feel. Already I heard someone on one of the morning news shows (Today? CNN?) say that, well, you can't take his promises literally. Really? I think his supporters do! Sorry for the stream of consciousness. I am so glad this thread is here. I hope it continues in some way so we can continue the conversation. The live chat on election night was great!

How to live in a country that would elect this jerk as president. I am devastated.

OMG. I wish I didn't care. :(

Me too and I don't even smoke.

Love Tempranillo. Oh yeah, more than one bottle is going to be consumed tonight. Waiting for husband to get home and join me.

I sometimes watch Fox just to see what the other side is saying. But not today. I think projectile vomiting would happen.

I'm going to be heartbroken if she loses. I wanted her back in 2008, but when Obama was the one, I got on board with him. But I HATE Trump. He will NOT be my president. I just cannot believe this can happen to our country.

So stressed. Am I the only one who has already shed tears over this?!

Meat loaf and baked potatoes. I made chocolate cupcakes earlier. I thought comfort food was a good plan but I don't know if I am going to be able to eat now. But need something to soak up the wine.

Merlot here. I'm in California and have already started drinking. Watching CNN. I cannot stand to think of Trump gloating. Shit. I hate this.

Watching CNN. They seem to be concerned about the early exit poll. I am dying here. My stomach is in knots. I know it is way early (I am in California). I may start drinking earlier than I had planned. I should stop watching but I can't look away.

This is so me.

I've been a little bit obsessed about this since I first heard about it, and almost moved to tears at times. Now I feel like, these people are coming from a whole different mindset. They are able to forgive Josh and move on. They don't want or need our help or understanding. We can't save the world. I really don't care what happens to the show from here on out.

They must all be EXTREMELY sound sleepers. Also, no mention of the "inappropriate touching" under the clothes.

I am probably in the minority here, but watching the snippets from tonight's interview on Today show and GMA just makes me less sympathetic toward Jill and Jessa. When asked directly if they are "victims" Jessa says that the whole thing is being "overblown." But then she goes on to say that they ARE victims because the story was leaked. So which is it, you weren't a victim then, but you are now?? And the way they smile when they are talking about this. Who does that? It is creepy. They are in a no-win situation. Their job is to defend Josh, downplay and minimize what happened. They are doing so much more harm than good. Ugh. Even in 2015, incest is such a taboo subject. They are just a very bad joke now.

Ugh! The debate over whether it was legal for the records to be made public or not goes on! WHO CARES! The fact is, there was incest and molestation in the family and it is out now! The parents did not handle it well at the time! As someone said upthread, you cannot put toothpaste back in the tube. I for one can never look at that family the same way. I hope they saved some of that money from the show, because the party is OVER.

Bits of interview not shown are being shown, but mostly lots of commentary. Hey, I NEVER watch Fox, and this reminds me why.

Parts of the interview that were not shown are on right now on the Kelley File.

The Talk - OMG, it was so moving. I don't always agree with these ladies, but wow, they were spot on today. I think it was Carnie Wilson who said that,if a very young child is molested but doesn't realize what is happening, does that make it ok? The fact that this happened when the girls was asleep somehow makes it ok?? Another thing - I think it was Julie Chen who said that Josh was ALSO failed by the parents. He went to them and they did not take immediate steps, basically they were in denial. I think in general everyone in the media is disgusted with Jim Bob and Michelle. I just do not see this show continuing in any capacity.

Just unbelievable!! Josh did not make a "poor choice" -- he violated his little sisters and broke the law. But Michelle and Jim Bob - they knew and did NOTHING! If that is not a failure as a parent, I don't know what is. On CNN tonight, it was brought up that there may be other victims in that house that are still within the statute of limitations. CPS needs to do a thorough investigation.