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I don't watch every season so I am not sure about the Middle Eastern challenge, but that sounds interesting. If they haven't I hope so. Someone said Thai food. I feel like I may have watched that before, but it could easily have been a different cooking show. I am supposed to visit this summer, COVID permitting, and I am looking for great places to eat while I am there. I was hoping Greg Gourdet's restaurant would be open, but I will have to make due with his cookbook that is now out!!! I want some of that PIcklez (sp) or whatever he and his mom made in that challenge where they had to sell something...
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I think the problem is assuming that the judges or anybody else considered that there was a "home advantage" just based upon race or ethnicity. I could be full Japanese and make terrible Japanese food....especially if that is not something I was trained in. Just because my parents may have served it to me while I was growing up would not make me an expert in it, and no one should assume that. Additionally just because a chef THINKS they are great at cooking something doesn't mean they are. I think it will be proved that Chris (I think that is the one in the bottom three) is not as good a chef as he thinks he is....
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How do you know they grew up with it? One said he was classically trained in French and that he "knew of" some Haitian dishes. They may(or may not have) grown up with some SOUTHERN cooking, but specific Pan African profiles? It is likely something they sought out after they learned more about cooking, You can be inspired by a lot of things without actually having an in depth knowledge of it. Also many people want to assimilate so they often don't cook foods from their heritage for fear of being different. I have a Hispanic friend who said his parents did not teach him Spanish or make traditional foods because they did not want him and his siblings to be perceived as different from their friends. Assumptions are the things that get people in trouble. Just because Kiki was sharing about how she felt about only cooking certain things did not necessarily mean she grew up eating every Traditional African dish there is. Maybe those closest to the background of her family and father but that may be very different dishes than the next POC. I have not heard of over half of the things that Kwame and Gregory were talking about. There are different dialects of the same language, just like there are different flavors in regional dishes from the same country. To another point about not sending home a person of color...since there were two chefs with a "home advantage" in the bottom, could it be that the judges just considered the food? Are we now questioning the integrity of the judges, and why is that only a question when people of color are involved?
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Could it be that they actually ASKED them what they knew of different types of foods and were told they didn't know much? It seems that quite a few of them said on camera that they had limited knowledge. Or it it is a SHOW where they were not actually teaching the contestants but teaching the audience. I would bet a vast part of the viewing audience as well as quite a few of the chefs didn't know about some of the information about the food, but what is wrong with that? Also, welcome to the world of a life long learner. I am more than willing to admit that I am not the expert on everything and when someone with more knowledge than I have speaks about something, or speaks passionately about something I can understand that it is not about me and be quiet and just listen without trying to assert my own knowledge in the moment. And for the things that I don't know I don't feel ignorant when someone takes the time to explain it to me, I am just grateful for the knowledge. Things change and evolve all the time and even on subjects that I might be knowledgeable someone can always tell me something new. As for saying they did not like the food.....why couldn't they, and who knows they may have and it just didn't make the edit? Or maybe they did like the food, or could at least s appreciate it for what it was even if it wasn't a favorite? You make it sound like just because a restaurant is famous all of their food has to be good. Everyone has different tastes. Sounds like you have a show that you can pitch to some production companies. Good luck. I am sure that many people would love to see it. Robert Irvine has been doing something similar on Food Network. Additionally although it may not make sense to walk into restaurants demanding information from the chef every competition food show I've watched in the last 10 years or so demands the chef's culinary point of view, talks about what motivates them, and tries to get some cheesy personal stories out of them....
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And what "home advantage" would that be? Not every African American, Black ( or however they want to identify) chef grew up eating whatever foods you consider to be "home cooking." One of those chefs clearly said he was trained as a classical French chef if I am not mistaken, and I have never heard anyone in my life complaining about cooking colonial food. In fact I would bet most people in this country have never had the opportunity to eat some of the foods types that were highlighted this episode for a variety of reasons and I doubt some of the chefs, regardless of background, have either, unless they made a point of seeking it out. I believe that is the point they are trying to make that chefs- in particular ones who want to be TOP CHEF, should have a working knowledge of all types of food, not just one specialty as it has been in the past, regardless of what that specialty is. I remember Marcus Samuelsson talking about growing up Swedish and having to seek out information about food from his culture. Personally I think they should do more with Vegan and Vegetarian cooking....or would that be pandering to PETA? Maybe Brittany was sent home because her food was the worst? I believe in the judging they even praised parts of Kiki's dish. The producers made the decision to shoot in Portland and stuck to it when all the unrest started, so I am sure parts of it will be woven into the season. If people disagree with that choice, they have a choice too....notify the production of your displeasure, or stop watching. That is the choice that many people of color have had for YEARS when they were either not represented in media and entertainment, or represented in the worst possible light or with stereotypes. The third choice is create/control your own show or narrative. It is odd how people had no opinion when that occurred, but now that there is inclusiveness it is pandering, guilt, etc. instead of just being humans who are sharing and acknowledging different stories and experiences.....but maybe that is too simple. I also did not see guilt in the chefs that acknowledged their lack of information, but REGRET that they had not tried it sooner, and relief that they could connect some of the foods and flavors to their own lives...with the realization that food, is not all that different, just like people....
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Thank you!!! I thought it was a PUN, a play on words because it was mashed potatoes and something else that was not colorful, but it may have been taken in both ways. I also as a vegetarian and very picky eater would not eat 90% of the things that are presented on Top Chef, but I appreciate learning about them. I don't think of one style of cuisine as better or worse than any other, or that when they focus on one that that they are putting down another. Food, like fashion , music and many other things go in cycles as to what is "trendy." I hardly think that most people watching Top Chef are now thinking less of any other type of food just because there was a focus on different flavors. I think just as much as anything one thing they are correcting is making sure that their judges are introduced to all kinds of foods and have some appreciation for it and how it should be cooked and how it tastes. I know in the past there have been a few times when some of them have said, " this is the first time I've had x..." and when you really think about it, in the challenges where they say, "cook from the soul," or "show me who you are, or your point of view," if they are not familiar with the foods or the flavor profiles of the foods, then how is that even judged fairly? And I am not talking about just Pan African or any particular type, just in general. I think they are also making an effort to have more diverse judges, and not just ethnicity, but gender and specialties. It is possible if I always have classically French trained judges they may have an unconscious bias against any food that is not that type of food if they have never stepped outside their specialty. Most cooking shows over the years have only focused on certain types of cooking styles and flavors and many chefs have always been at a disadvantage. There was a time when Southern cooking was frowned upon, and then it became popular with Paula Deen and others and all of a sudden it was trendy....at one point you were called a "simple" chef for certain dishes like collard greens, then all of a sudden people were praising that very same item. I think that some of the chefs are a little surprised that they have not stepped outside of whatever their specialty is, whether it was French, Italian, etc. and are finding out that many of the dishes and flavors are very similar and that if you are a great chef it doesn't matter what you are cooking, you can figure out a way to cook it well. The words "soul" have also been used before on this show, in relation to many different types of food. I think in some instances you could substitute authenticity. I think these days unfortunately sometimes honest attempts to evolve and make change are labeled as virtue signaling and pandering because sadly it is frequently hard to tell the difference. I think any efforts to be more inclusive should be appreciated, regardless of the reason for it. This show has been on a long time, in part maybe they thought it was time to change up some things. I guess my question would be were they implying other types of foods were inferior or "souless" by not including them for years? Who were they pandering to then?
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Got it for this reason, although I missed the part that it doesn't start until May! Already had Acorn and they switched this year....thought I was covered... I totally understand!!
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S01.E01: What Happens In Puglia (2)
catrice2 replied to WendyCR72's topic in Law & Order: Organized Crime
Another take on it is that COVID restrictions at a lot of funeral homes was 20 or 30 or less. Some families chose to just have immediate family to alleviate the issue of choosing who of their many friends and other family members would have to attend and possibly causing hurt feelings. I know that happened in my family. -
Is there really an outcry? It amazing me how these days a few tweets or a few articles or something on Instagram and people start acting as if MILLIONS of people are weighing in on a topic instead of the same number on social media, or that EVERYBODY feels a certain way. The reality is that millions of people are worried about real things in their lives and not in the least bit concerned about what is trending on social media..
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The man said his serum was more refined (and that was his opinion, no evidence)and would not require equipment. No where have I heard it necessarily makes people stronger than Steve or Bucky unless I missed something?
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Also he was used to eliminate the man making the serums so that Bucky or Sam did not have to do it.... Many of these questions have been answered in the show already, some are yet to be revealed and others are left up to interpretation..
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Batman? You have to outsmart them. Hawkeye as well
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Actually I don't think it was Bucky and Sam. Both were trying to calm him down and point out that it did not have to get worse. He was not winding down, he was clearly still agitated....even the phrase of "go to work" as he was walking out and encountered them and his pacing, rushed words, etc. indicated he was still in a very aggressive state, along with justifying what he did. He was on his way back out to finish the job, hence the "go to work" comment, so he was still mad and looking to hurt someone. Yes, they were getting through to him, but when Sam mentioned the shield it was clear that he snapped back out of that contemplation. Now it was BUCKY that made the gesture to actually take it when the fight ensued, so you may be right about that, but to me it appeared he was hoping to forcibly snatch it while Walker was off guard. Additionally at one point in the fight Sam takes his wings down and says to him, "John, this is not you," in an effort to calm him down again.
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Hmm because even John Walker admitted that they don't have any evidence of that, and as Bucky told Sam, technically he broke himself out. There was nothing they have to prove Bucky helped. In the flashbacks, the most he did was drop the note to start the fight, Zemo did the rest. No one could prove that the time that they were together Sam and Bucky were not trying to bring him in... and no one but them knows that Zemo shot the doctor, and not even Sam or Bucky know he shot Karli. The rest of your complaints may be valid, but this one ahs already been explained.
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Same!
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S01.E03: Say Hello To My Little Friends
catrice2 replied to WendyCR72's topic in Law & Order: Organized Crime
Nope, I think we need to worry more about Bell than her family. I do think Angela wants her kids out of it, but I also think she wants the law to take Richard out of the way so that she can ascend. I may have missed it, but did they ever say why they got a divorce? I agree, I have no idea who the rest of the team members are, except hacker girl. Bell keeping Gina close to the vest is smart if she thinks she has a mole on the team. Somehow I see one of the kids getting killed and Stabler putting Richard out of commission, but not dead. I can easily see him escaping so that he could be brought back at a later date. I was hoping it would be a case where at least one of the children did not think their father was a criminal...but alas, no..... Was it evident to anybody but me that he would have a different vaccine? -
S01.E02: Not Your Father's Organized Crime
catrice2 replied to WendyCR72's topic in Law & Order: Organized Crime
It depends. At some points in every state you could only get it in certain age groups, certain conditions, etc. They may not have known they were stolen, but perhaps that they didn't meet whatever the criteria was at that time. Although I like the show I agree with you. It is totally ridiculous that SVU outlasted the original. It has always had the weakest actors and storylines! I stopped watching SVU along time ago, but you are correct that CI didn't always have an "order portion. -
S01.E02: Not Your Father's Organized Crime
catrice2 replied to WendyCR72's topic in Law & Order: Organized Crime
I think the ex partner is too easy. It is either the D.A. or the other guy. I also feel like Bell is not going to make it. I hate any Olivia and Stabler scene so...... Why do my two favorites have to be the bad guys??!! -
The former Olympian can go at any time.
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I am interested to see the chef who was talking about plaintains .
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Aaron was better than expected!
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I can't wait to see it in the US!
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S01.E01: What Happens In Puglia (2)
catrice2 replied to WendyCR72's topic in Law & Order: Organized Crime
My guess is the fewer actors as possible at the funeral scene meant fewer COVID restrictions. People forget they are shooting this during Covid and want as little risk as possible -
S01.E01: What Happens In Puglia (2)
catrice2 replied to WendyCR72's topic in Law & Order: Organized Crime
Yeah, but unfortunately I think it served a dual purpose...revenge Stabler and putting the two of them together....ugh... They could have easily killed one of the children to get Stabler on the warpath....