DaphneCat

Why does this show INSIST on hammering home the point that adopted children are "real" children. Nicole blathering on about how she was thinking about an abortion but couldn't do it because it might be Eric's and she "knows how much he always wanted to be a father."🙄 Idiot, he WAS a father and walked away from it. Him, now saying he doesn't care about DNA and was happy to adopt is basically CRAP. I was hoping this show was going to handle the inevitable Eric/Nicole get together with some modicum of sensitivity, but nope. Not going to happen. Since it isn't actually a baby am I a horrible person if I hope Towel gets lost in the washing machine?

Jada finally dropped the name of her ex (who is clearly the same person as Everett) and it wasn't Everett. I think the show is setting him up to be charming on the surface but with a deeper undercurrent of evil. Granted, it is possible I'm giving the writers FAR too much credit, but I don't think you're actually supposed to like him.

What I appreciate is that even if we disagree posters are always kind and respectful. And while we can criticize styling choices (clothes, hair, make-up, etc.) there isn't any real meanness about the actor's physical appearance. Thanks to all for all the genuinely insightful commentary.

Forgot to mention this before but, Johnny, how NOBLE of you to use your influence to help Paulina jump the emergency room queue. Entitled rich kid behavior at its best, am I right? I'm SURE the parents sitting in the crowded emergency room with a very sick child would agree that you were completely justified in pulling staff away for what was clearly defined as a non-emergent case - i.e. she shouldn't have been in an emergency room in the first place.

Great news - a new character. Let's hope they don't trash her like they did Sloan!

Yes! While I fault the writers for not having Holly even mention her grandmother or going to see her, the fact that Maggie didn't even bother to call Holly on her birthday REALLY sucks. As for EJ taking Nicole away for the night (and Nicole allowing it to happen) how self-centered are both of them? Even if it WASN'T Holly's birthday, it's still Christmas Eve - you don't simply abandon your teenage daughter because of your needs. And what a GREAT way to let Holly know that she will NEVER be as important to her mother as her "dead" brother. Was thinking the exact same thing. I was moved by Doug's genuine emotion at the end. This! They need to have him doing more than just interacting with Sarah and Towel.

And they're trying to make her really irredeemable. I KNOW we're supposed to feel sorry for poor traumatized Nicole and hate Sloan for being such a bitch to her, but everything about this story line rings false. Ever since they made Sloan desperate to "keep" Eric they've just continued too ruin her.

NOOOOOOOOOOO! For the love of everything holy, NO MIRACULOUSLY UNDEAD ABIGAIL!!!!! New love interest for Chad - OK. Abigail - NO! So now the children on this show are supposed to magically get over a loved one's death?

Yes, but John WAS willing to give Kristen the benefit of the doubt so.....

While I like how good EJ is being with Nicole, I really wanted him to turn back to classic EJ and threaten Sloan by mentioning, that if there ever WERE to be a trial, Nicole's defense would be that the baby was abandoned by his mother and that the judge really needs to look at if Sloan is competent to adopt a child. By the way, why has NO ONE (especially Eric) questioned why there has been no court proceedings or paperwork for them to officially adopt the baby. Why isn't he asking about a birth certificate? Are we supposed to think that Melinda forged all that too?

Nope, not just you. Since Holly's only function is to lust after Johnny, she and Nicole haven't really interacted at all. She treats EJ like some distant uncle sees every year or so - not the man she has theoretically seen at the breakfast table for the past few years. She also has had no scenes whatsoever with Maggie - the person she spent the majority of her time with as a child. There is just no there, there. She isn't really connected with anyone - she could be some random stranger for all the show has established.

But, you're forgetting all the WONDERFUL other characters and plotlines: Chuckling Abe and Shrieking Paulina... oh that's right, they suck. The EPIC romance of Wendy and Tripp ..... oh, that's right, they're as exciting as watching a tennis match between two people who've never played before. The OTHER epic romance of Jada and Rafe.... oh, that's right, the show doesn't have even a vague clue as to what to do with these two. The edge of your seat plot of baby switch/DNA shenanigans number 847.... oh, that's right, we all know how this is going to end (I'm guessing Christmas miracle) and in the meantime there's all the many times Sloan looks panicked and you're supposed to think this stupidity is finally going to be over but, yet again, it isn't. The many loves of Stephanie.... oh, that's right she has no personality and the only thing she's really done is destroy Chad. Holly lusting after Johnny.... oh, that's right this REALLY sucks. When Ava and Harris are the most interesting thing going on right now - you may have a point.

I kind of get your point, but Xander let Susan go. At that point it was on her that she supposedly got "killed". Sarah should have rightfully given Xander grief for kidnapping Susan but the whole "I can't trust him around my baby because he's responsible for Susan's death" thing was REALLY contrived. And somehow, "he's not so bad because Susan magically turned up alive" - meaning Sarah now CAN trust him around her baby - is just really stupid. Nothing in their relationship (apart or together) feels earned.

Yes, I don't mind them together - but if they're going to break them up, at least have it be for a decent reason - not because Sarah lets major things slide and then gets a bug up her butt about something minor and stupid. Also, I would appreciate it if their reconciliation was earned - not endless cycles of Sarah telling Xander how awful he is and how she will NEVER trust him only to have her back with him for no reason I can see.

Even their break-up was boring! No chemistry what so ever.

So once again, Stephanie will be the poor put upon person who has some man trying to control her. This could be a good plot if Stephanie wasn't just so damn dull that I can't help but wonder why all they men go to such lengths to protect their interest in her.

Not yet, but I'm sure it will come out soon.

So when is the kid going to get some disease that requires a blood transfusion or some other thing that has to come from a biological relative? Before Christmas? Or are they really going to drag this out until the new year? Have absolutely no interest in this stupid plot whatsoever.

I didn't even remember that plot so I guess I'm in the same place as you .😄 Slightly interested but forget about it when it's gone.

A week later and it's STILL Thanksgiving? I suppose next week is Christmas. I'm guessing by the activity on this board, that everyone else is as bored with the Konstantin/Theresa inheritance swap and baby swap stories as I am. I'm really wondering what the writers will come up with since the only other plotlines they have going - Chuckling Abe reuniting with Paulina, the trials of Stephanie's love life, and Holly mooning around over Johnny are all equally dull if not more so.

I was glad Steve had the Salem brain today, but why didn't he tell Maggie that Konstantin was lying about him and Victor even being friends BEFORE he brought up the kidnapping? That would cast a LOT more doubt on him. Hopefully this stupid story is going to be over soon. Since they've now completely destroyed Theresa she may as well go back to California. This show can write sympathetic storylines for vile people like Kristen and Ben but will completely trash people who are somewhat grey - like Theresa.

Nope, just like they made it a big deal when Alex turned off Stephanie's phone, she will eventually find out Chad did this and it will be the reason she breaks up with him. Don't know if she will go back to Everett or start up again with Alex.

The part I'm REALLY over, is the insta-connection between Eric and the baby. I was rolling my eyes so far back in my head I so brain matter when the baby was fussing for Sloan and MAGICALLY calmed for Eric. We GET it , it's his kid. But, life doesn't work that way - I really wish this soap didn't try to convince us it does.

Well, Chuckling Abe is back. Are we really supposed to care if he gets back with Paulina? Together, those two are as exciting as listening to two accountants discuss accelerated depreciation for tax vs. regular depreciation for book. (Yes, that topic IS as exciting as it sounds!)

I'm hoping (I'm sure futilely) this is a way to get Nicole to realize why Sami hates her. The exact same thing she did to Sami is happening to her now. I would like her to understand just how much torment she put Sami through. While I don't think it will ever happen, I would really love it if Nicole and Sami could FINALLY get over their feud and we wouldn't be subjected to Sami/Nicole round 2,847 when Sami comes back for one of her visits - especially since we all KNOW that we're getting round 67 of Eric/Nicole.