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I assume Logan, Maddie and Hunter are close with Mykelti, Aspyn and Ysabel. He said Leon and Paedon are outliers who struggle to fit and everyone else is younger. (I mean Ysabel is technically part of the younger set, but obviously quite close with Maddie at least.) I love too how they don't consider the fact that the "kids" are all married and have two working eyes each and know what an at least somewhat healthy relationship should look like. And probably have seen the damn show. Robyn on the other hand...lying through her teeth about how "happy" everyone must have been in Vegas. Where Meri and her catfish happened, where Christine and Kody had to take a therapist on their anniversary trip (which was maybe still the most sad episode of this entire shitshow) and where Janelle...well, Janelle just kept being Janelle. I am fully here for the Kody spiral next week. I caught Christine's middle finger extended too. Heee! I'm so glad he's miserable. And Robyn is by extension. Meri's gonna keep Meri-ing. (Boy, was she misnamed.)

We've all been wishing Meri would up and leave for years, but you know, we really should be wishing she stays AND STARTS DATING. If it was going to be fine for Christine to do that, it should be fine for Meri too. And despite having supposedly no interest in her, I would honestly love to see Kody go further crazy should she take a lover but still be "in the fambly." Find yourself a new banana, Meri!

There's a new clip that I thought was interesting of Meri and Robyn talking about how "familiar" it is that Christine and Kody's relationship is done and Meri saying she "found peace" with the idea of staying and Robyn entreating Meri to stay with her because they have to "rebuild"...which... more wives? And then Robyn crying about how "they're" destroying what she wanted and she had other choices but chose this. Uh... what other choices? Was she seeing other people while she was seeing Kody? And how selfish can you be to see not one but two of your "sisters" suffering and in such pain and then expect them to stay in a harmful situation so they don't rain on YOUR parade. Geesh. https://www.etonline.com/sister-wives-robyn-and-meri-share-how-they-really-feel-about-christine-leaving-kody-exclusive (Sorry I don't know how to embed this one.)

Lol, this is like visiting Bizarroland in comparison to Twitter (and Tumblr too maybe), re: Chenford. It's an incredibly popular ship there (screenshots of trending topics include The Rookie at #20-25 at various times while airing, with about 6K tweets for #Chenford). I think they have very good chemistry and their flirtations have made me way more interested than I used to be in the show overall. They've truly (and mostly smartly) invested in building them quite a lot over the past season and a half. It was nice to see some actual forward momentum rather than the forever will they/won't they dynamic that feels more and more unrealistic these days (modern love moves fast.) The Chris thing is a predictable roadblock (as is Ashley, for that matter) but I think they're walking a nice balance between giving the audience enough to stay engaged and happy and letting it unroll in a very slow burn scenario.

Mykelti's younger than Maddie, so I'm not sure -- but Aspyn also went and lived at Robyn's for a while in Vegas because she and Christine weren't getting along. That was surprising at the time because of Christine's rep as a super mom to all the kids and no one really liking Robyn generally. But she does seem to have good relationships with Christine's two older girls. (And Christine, for all her personal jealousy, seems very magnanimous about that and kind to Robyn. So I struggle to believe she was ever mean TO Robyn. I think she complained to Kody about how much attention he gave to Robyn and her kids and in his usual failure to grasp anything nuanced or emotionally complex, he took that as her being "mean.")

I don't know if that's true. Whenever someone asks "Well what if one of your wives wanted to have multiple partners?," the men don't seem to want to say out loud that it's because only their needs matter.

Honestly, if they bring this back for another season, they need to change the format and just have it be Families of those Seeking Sister Wives. The best parts are when kids/siblings/parents voice their concern/scorn/giggles/confusion/anger over what their relatives are trying to do. I want more questioning of these men about their bullshit beliefs that are just thinly veiled misogyny.

True, but she (assuming she runs everything?) put in a lot of low-rent substitutes in Temperance instead of bringing back Hector and rebooting another host copy of Maeve, etc. So why keep a Delores? I mean I guess she could want a challenge but I'd be... surprised. Stubbs had bloody bandages on in the tub didn't he? So there wasn't like a soddering iron involved like when Maeve gets repaired. I'm still curious as to what he did for 23 years. I thought Teddy's dialogue kept hinting at his being awake. He said "Well, that's the thing about this world, You know? Some of the most unbelievable things turn out to be true. And the things that feel the most real are nothing but stories that we tell ourselves." and "Someone once told me that there's a path for everyone. and my path leads me back to you." That seems like he knows things/remembers their past, although I guess he could be... programmed to say those things? As for Hale's motivations? I think we're lead to believe it's just revenge so far. They haven't seemed to reveal a greater plan than that yet. But... I assume they will since there's gonna be a season 5.

I can't understand this either. Halores isn't going to risk bringing back Delores in any way, shape, or form, and what does she need Teddy for? I'm also still curious about how Stubbs survived--somehow getting out of the bathtub and healing himself and then what-- just hanging around for 23 years and checking in on Bernard (but not actually dusting him off?) I love that Teddy is "awake" and knows the general scheme while Delores doesn't in this timeline -- fun reversal.

It's interesting that since Christine decided to leave, she and Janelle really seem to have formed a real friendship -- one they didn't have even when they were actually Sisterwives. Maybe true friendship is easier when you're not fighting over one man's... attentions... Imagine that.

Good for Leon. And I can only imagine Kody's head is exploding right now and I hope we get to see some of that on the show. (Not hoping for any violence or ill-will or attitude toward Leon, only relishing Kody's utter confusion and discomfort because this is yet another thing he has no control over.) In truth, I don't know what, IF ANY, kind of relationship he even really has these days with any of his non-Robyn's kids.

This felt like the weakest episode they've ever done. And it was a BETH episode?! She's usually written really well, but I didn't understand tonight's thing at all. She was mad that her former dance teacher didn't tell her he was sorry about her father's death? That's it?! I kept waiting for a big bad reveal like he sexually molested her or something, but no it just seemed to be that someone she looked up to looked at her as... his paying client? I feel like the dance stuff in general has been really kind of ill-fitting for Beth. It felt like it really came out of nowhere despite the flashbacks and never really fit the character, esp. since she was depicted as being really great at her high-powered office job in s1? (I don't remember what that was exactly.) And I'm so sick of Sophie storylines. Like bring her back (I know, she's on Virgin River) or don't, but stop with the halting half-in, half-out stuff. Kevin and Madison just need to be adults and communicate. As do Toby and Kate because so far they haven't shown us any reason for a divorce other than Toby working a lot in a different city. MEH. All that work they did to get us on his side (because really, most people did not like Toby in S1) and now that's just being tossed aside. I'm glad the show is ending soon. Sometimes (maybe even often) they can still hit it out of the park but tonight really felt like filler/too small to be a story.

I was glad to see, in the preview for next week, Christine say she's done with polygamy and it's not the lifestyle she wants for herself anymore. She was so (brainwashed?) insistent on believing that monogamy was such a terrible way to live for so many years. Ironic how much hate there was for Tony, and yet seeing Mykelti (and Aspyn) being treated with care and respect and single-minded attention are at least in part what helped her see a better way finally.

I guess I was surprised he's still offering to build her a house on Coyote Pass. I don't understand that. It's this weird half-in/half-out situation, that probably gives her some encouragement -- despite him being honest about not wnating intimacy. IDK it just seems really crazy to me and hard to fathom. (I mean, so does polygamy....but....) It almost seems like it'd be kinder to Meri to literally tell her you don't want her to live on your property (assuming they ever do build there) and to just cut her off from the family completely? She could still see Robyn and the kids that do like her, but... I would think that would force her to maybe see the light and move on? IDK, though, maybe it would not. She's pretty entrenched.

The wildest part of the clip to me was the very end when the host asks Kody if this platonic friendship but still being part of the family with Meri was going to be enough for "all of them" in the long run. And he emphatically was like "No, it wouldn't be enough for me!" So selfish and passive and cowardly. Here's the exact exchange: "So Meri's committed to staying with the family, she has a relationship with the larger family, the kids, Robyn … and a friendship with you. Is that going to be enough?" Krishnan [the host] asks. "I don't think that's enough for anybody, but everybody makes their choices," Kody concludes. As if he's not also making a choice to... not do anything about an untenable situation.

Clip from the tell-all with Christine, Meri and Kody (all one-on-one) talking about Meri staying even though Christine's leaving and Kody saying he'll never feel "safe" to be intimate with Meri again and that it's not actually from the catfishing but "before that". I wish the host had followed up on what exactly he's talking about honestly, but she seems pretty good at nailing them down. https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-sneak-peek-kody-brown-doesnt-feel-safe-with-wife-meri-never-will-again/?did=732054-20220128&utm_campaign=people-news_newsletter&utm_source=people.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=012822&cid=732054&mid=78220872564

The part that really gets me is when he says he "dislikes her behavior and wants to see if she can be a 'good sister wife.'" So, fall in line or no sex for you? So gross. I agree that I don't know how the slights to their kids don't seem to register, but I'll still give Christine all the good-for-hers in the world for not simply accepting that bullshit. (Unlike Meri or Janelle.) It's a low frakking bar, sure, but she cleared it at least.

Random question but ... where is Gwendolyn? Is she away/living at school? It occurs to me that of all the 19 children I think she might be the one we see the least?

Wow. Just...wow. To look at your son who is practically begging you to make time for him on a semi-regular basis w/ tears in his eyes and to have not an ounce of empathy or love or compassion but just be mad and defensive (and accusingly shriek about why he is getting emotional), so much so that not only would you not hug him (God forbid) but not even verbally assure him from your safe social distance that you love him and miss him and want to be a part of his life, regardless of who you think is at fault? Well, that is a cold, cold heart. When this family looks back some day about what caused their dissolution, I hope they realize it was not Covid-19, but Kody-00. (And no, not Robyn. Even if she is/was manipulative to the millionth power, it is still on Kody to actually give a shit about the kids he fathered and women he married before her.) And while I am glad for Janelle that he attended her mom's funeral, I can only imagine how Ysabel felt that he would be able to make an exception for that but not her surgery. His ironclad protocols sure seem flexible when he wants them to be. I haven't seen the promo, but I am so glad we get the satisfaction of seeing Christine put his shit in the garage and declare she is done. I honestly figured we would have to wait till next season and it all would have happened during the hiatus. Thank God ONE of the wives has a natural and logical response to him declaring their marriage is actually a friendship or acquaintanceship or whatever bullshit term he wants to use.

Christine and Janelle's chat made me feel very glad for both of them that they have that support, especially that they both commented how much each of their kids love the other wife. And it felt so genuine. And very reasonable (to me) that they would want to see their adult kids over Kody who has shown them for so long that he has little to no interest or investment in them, for all his crowing about the "whole fambly." And then in contrast, the Robin/Meri/kids reunion just felt so overdramatic and fake to me. IDK I'm so glad Christine left in search of a better life and I wish Janelle would too. I wonder if it was Aspyn who called Robyn and asked about her rules? Didn't she live with Robyn for a while too? Hmm.

Also, Looks like Garrison bought his house! SO LONG, DAD! Sister Wives star Janelle Brown’s son Garrison buys $329K Arizona home featuring courtyard amid feud with dad Kody https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/4408390/sister-wives-janelle-brown-son-garrison-arizona-home/

Lot of Robyn in this Sunday's episode. (Not sure how to get the People.com clip to embed but here's a link) Sister Wives: Robyn Tells Her Kids the Family Won't Spend the Holidays Together https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-robyn-doesnt-want-to-lie-to-her-kids-about-familys-separate-holiday-plans/

Just saw this article w/a quote from Austin Winsberg re: the love triangle and whether or not it should be over. Kind of a weaseling-out answer if you ask me: “I know there are some fans out there that feel like, ‘Wait a second, what happened, Austin? You said she was gonna make a choice in the beginning.’ And I think she did make the choice,” showrunner Austin Winsberg explains. “She tried to go for Max, and it’s just that the timing wasn’t right, and she wasn’t in the right space. And here we are, several episodes later, and people change over time, feelings change over time, and things get more complicated. I think she’s still not ready to fully commit to Max, and here Simon is in the wings, he’s still around, and Simon and Zoey do have that great bond and that undeniable chemistry.” There's a lot more about how she's "not ready" to commit to Max because he's her bestie and that's more loaded, but... meh? Because it's seemed from the start that she was just way more into Simon and couldn't really accept Max being out of the friend zone. So I can't see how that will be a satisfying endgame at this point.

I thought this was interesting because I could easily believe he hangs out at Janelle's the most. She is the wife who absolutely challenges him the least and probably, at this point, easily adores him the most. Kody says elsewhere in the episode that this fight with Robyn over to buy the rental house or wait for God to provide is the BIGGEST FIGHT he's ever had with a wife, and Robyn consistently seems over him/angry/frustrated. However, we saw in the trailers that Janelle finally gets upset about something and says she doesn't see him enough either. So... where the hell is he spending time? It'd really be something if the finale introduced a fifth wife (though I don't think he wants to marry again). It's always fascinating to me how they actually get pretty honest about how miserable they all are.... yet none of them ever manage to connect the dots that this means their marriage(s)/polygamy does not work for these people and should be abandoned. (I don't know if it's cluelessness or the "PINK ELEPHANT" that they have to stay together for the show/TLC money. Although that money doesn't seem to be helping/solving their problems.) That bit from Robyn at the episode's end about how if the entire culture was polygamous then women's relationships would be so much better and all supporting and loving was some real craziness -- because their microcosm alone is showing how miserable it makes all the women and now even the husband. She can see that but also not see it/discount it. They're all so myopic that way. It's amazing. I like Kody the least of all the folks on this show, but I think it would be very interesting if they just literally followed him around for a week and showed us where he goes and what he does and all the "stuff that's on his plate."

Having trouble with the quote function but responding to several different points raised here.... Did Sarah know her "best friend" was keeping a young woman prisoner? I don't think she did actually. Sarah's ebook was onsale for $2.99 the other day, so I bought it and read it (it's a short, quick, not that illuminating read) and .... despite her calling Lauren a best friend and making her the godparent to her son, I think they actually had a very one-way relationship. Sarah didn't seem to really know much of anything about Lauren's life--she had no idea for their entire time until she wanted out that Lauren was with Keith, and I think they didn't live near each other for very long. (Sarah and Nippy moved to Albany near the end of things I think.) Reading between the lines, there wasn't much evidence that Lauren really treated her like a best friend....especially since she supposedly got very demanding/harsh/condescending after Sarah agreed to be her "slave." Why is he named Nippy? Nickname comes from his middle name, his mother's maiden name, Nippert. I'm guessing the woman who approached India in the courtroom was Nicki Clyne, because they were thick as thieves after Keith got arrested, working together at a vegan cafe in the East Village and presumably still trying to revive/continue DOS on his behalf. Nicki is still very vested and has been very vocal lately, along with four other women as they were trying to claim due process wasn't served, the Feds framed him and threatened them, etc. As a huge BSG fan, the whole thing blows my mind. I was surprised to learn too that she joined NXIVM before Allison Mack did and possibly was just as involved in creating DOS. She seems lucky to have not gotten charged with anything. Sarah had plastic surgery to remove the brand and India had a mandala with an evil eye and a phrase I've forgotten now tattooed over it. Oh here it is from People magazine: "I created a mandala with an evil eye to ward off bad energy and lies," Oxenberg tells PEOPLE. "It has the latin phrase ancora imparo, with means, 'Still, I'm learning.' And I still am."