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I'm kind of torn on if I want the show to continue but I'm also wondering who would pick it up. The best fit would be CBS...and it honestly wouldn't be a bad summer programming choice for them.

It hasn't been renewed. Longmire Posse (run by Adam's aunt, so she's in the know) is still lobbying hard daily on social media for a renewal. I don't know that it's going to happen this time though because while their total viewer numbers are still pretty high (around 3.5 mill) the "demo" numbers (meaning the coveted 18-49 year olds that advertisers believe spend the money) have sunk to only 500K. Usually shows under 1 Mill in the demo are in danger of being canceled by their network because advertisers won't pay enough for ad time to cover production costs. And Longmire's a pretty costly production, I think (big cast, lots of crew, lots of location shots). To compound the problem, they have to pay Warner Brothers who makes the show to air it. All of that plus the fact that the network doesn't do much fanfare for the show as opposed to the stuff they do for Bates Motel...doesn't seem to bode well. But...what could work in their favor is the lack of other scripted options? They passed on Occult. Those Who Kill got canceled/shuttled over to LMN after two episodes. The Returned is a go--but that'll air in fall with Bates because Carlton Cuse produces both shows. They do have a bull riding drama called Blood, Sweat & Tears but there's been no news on it in about a year. If it's still active...it could steal Longmire's summer slot. Or....it could be a good match and air at 9 right before it.

@stillshimpy Yes! So good to see you too! (As for other BSG roles, I've seen everything too, lol. Or at least everything with Katee in it or Jamie Bamber--and there's been some terrible stuff. BUT-- Jamie's The Smoke? Which only aired in the UK? Was really phenomenal. He did his best work ever in it, too. I know it's on DVD but if it ever makes it to Netflix or Hulu, check it out! But back on topic: Yeah. Sigh. Longmire will never be the show I hoped it could be and I just have to resign myself to that. I'll keep watching out of loyalty to the cast if it gets renewed, but it's so frustrating because it could be so much better in some ways!

What a hell of a season he had. Longmire gets a lot of things wrong, but I'd argue Bailey's got the best, most challenging, role on the show. Good for him.

@stillshimpy! I remember your super thoughtful and interesting posts from TWOP--so glad to see you here too at PTV! I'm about the biggest Sackhoff fan you'll find. She knocked me out in BSG (and actually in the short-lived, not very good Bionic Woman which I watched before BSG--if that show had made Sackhoff the lead instead of the villain -- it might still be running). I was excited to see her get a solid gig with a great cast on a respected cable network. I read the books, and was VERY excited for Vic, who is actually very Starbuck-like in personality on the page. So I couldn't have been more excited for Longmire before it launched and even through most of S1 I remained optimistic. But when the show gave her nothing to do but be Walt's sidekick AND chose to show her up as incompetent detective several times so that Walt could be always right (a problem that's magnified on a larger scale as a problem with the show in general), I started losing interest. (There were other reasons too, but mainly I didn't care for how procedural the show was and how little character development and bonding there was---this problem was compounded as the seasons progressed.) The Vic on the screen was a pale shadow of the Vic in the books, minimized and downplayed so as not to pull focus from Walt. Then this season they finally, finally gave Katee some emotions to play (and she acted the hell out of the kidnapping episode), but they also made Vic pretty unsympathetic and unlikable in the process. Who turns their back on their civilian husband of several years who has just been kidnapped and assaulted to run after the sheriff who never seems to be in any kind of danger anyway? Who, upon being served divorce papers, doesn't even take a breath before asking for a pen? That's pretty cold. And all for a man who barely kind of gives you the time of day. I agree that she looks way too young to be RT's love interest on an aesthetic level, AND that since there's no equal power balance between them, I'm not looking forward to when it inevitably gets romantic between them. I did not appreciate the "You punching me in the face is the best thing that's happened to me all week" bit, even though it's meant as a joke. I just don't see how these two can have a serious relationship when he gives her so little and she has such a major case of hero worship. (It only works in the books because Vic isn't there that much--and the relationship is treated very casually at least for the first six or seven novels.) I think she could be a great Vic, if Vic was the fireball she is in the books. Here she's watered-down and forced to play nag/tagalong to Walt. (It's a show that's so heavy on machismo that the female characters and beta male Ferg get almost nothing to do.) Her personal storylines are always about her romantic life--(what was all that stalker nonsense for? It fizzled into nothing!) I would've loved to see her get some of the storylines they gave Branch. Sackhoff is especially good at bringing a menacing authority to her roles--she rarely gets that opportunity here though and it's a real shame. If it comes back, I'd love to see her facing off with Mathias and Nighthorse more. Or better yet, get her own season-long mystery to solve that has truly nothing to do with Walt. (Like Branch and Henry have had to some degree.)

I, too, appreciated the return of humor. I'm very confused about Martha's death at this point. Barlow paid Nighthorse money to send Ridges to Denver to kill her (why Denver? So no one in Durant would be suspected?). Miller Beck was just an accidental casualty? They were framing Beck? And why was BRANCH targeted by Ridges anyway? Barlow wouldn't have wanted that. And why did Fales have any motive to cover up finding the feather? It's too bad actually because if they'd stuck to the simple but clear (if totally villainous) motivation that Barlow wanted Walt out of the way so Branch could become sheriff, they didn't need to mess around with all this other silliness--Denver, Fales, feathers, supposedly dead warriors, etc. It all could've been so much simpler. We could've seen Gerald a few more times throughout the season--built up his connection to Nighthorse, etc. Now it just feels like 90% of the mystery plot was a red herring. (10% would be okay, but 90's way too much.) If this show returns (given A&E's lackluster support of it--I'm not sure it's a given), I'd really like to see some healing and lightness (man this season was grim) for these people and, most especially, some bonding between this group of folks. My biggest pet peeve about the show is that they don't feel like a "found family" and there's just not enough *heart* to most of the episodes. They each have relationships with Walt, but not with each other really. Let's see some Vic and Ferg sleuthing, Ruby mothering Branch, Cady's legal stuff aligning with Omar's interests. I don't even know. It was tough to like a lot of the characters this season. Word. I know that line about the best thing that happened all week was supposed to be funny, but...no. Gross. Offensive. Marginally better than them suddenly making out, but still NO. I so wish the writing for Vic was as good as it is for Branch. Sigh. She's a lot of fun in the books, and it hasn't translated to the scripts at all. (And anyone who's seen Katee in BSG knows she can be fantastic with good material. She's so wasted in this role. I almost hope they cancel it so that she's freed up.)

Geesh. And why would you make Goran Visnijic look like THAT? If it were on NBC, I'd venture they got a two-for-1 coupon to Supercuts and sent him and Dermot Mulroney.

A whole show centered on Gordon though? Now if it was Donna...maybe...