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Did Ravenel actually think he had a chance to win, REALLY. He just can't go away? Who could POSSIBLY take him seriously. The drug allegations? The resigning from office? AND this behavior on this show.... UGH. He supposedly has all this breeding and class...Really. He's actually quite a sad example of a human being. Blessed with so much.....and yet so shallow.

I did wonder about that and anything can happen in TP-land. But Veronica poured the gasoline around his bed, so he SHOULD be encircled by fire. Doesn't mean he can't get out, but..... Technically she didn't pour is ALL around the bed and close a circle, but definitely from the door to around the bed. IF Oscar is the one 'selling the houses she's buying...technically she would know that because it's IN the paperwork the realtor has. But watch TP pull some crap and they don't find out that each one is on the other side of the transaction until they're at the settlement table. AND...if he;s THAT big...HE wouldn't be at the settlement table his lawyer would be. Because technically YOU don't have to be at the closing. ANd I'm sure someone of that caliber wouldn't be at their own closing...please, TP, come on. ALSO, the actress who played the realtor, with the British accent. She was a cast member playing her self Kari Wells, on the Bravo reality show "Married to Medicine' about doctors and their wives. Her husband is a surgeon.Now she's on this as an actress.....

If I recall..... Yes, because she knows Hannah is Candace's mom and Hannah is Benny's mom. She's knew Benny's was Hannah's son from when she got him off from David's botched frame of Candace. SHE is the one who said to Hannah you go tell her Candace is your daughter, or I will. Again that goes back to David's botched frame up. That was the reason Hannah told Kathryn in the first place. ^^ Thank you! Because Tyler Perry is a terrible writer, and not a good 'concept' person. I think Veronica is paying for the medicare care of that person at whose bedside Melissa was sitting a couple of episodes ago....A man in a coma?

I haven't decided WHAT grade to give this season finale -- in terms of grading it as a cliffhanger. I'm actually looking forward to next season LESS than I was looking forward to last night's show. Apparently I'll have to ponder it a bit more. As of right now it was sort of anti-climatic. ETA: if Melissa is ALREADY pregnant by Jeffrey why was she trying so hard to get him in bed. She wouldn't need to do that if she were already pregnant -- with HIS baby anyway. That makes no sense. First Hannah. Now we see Ronnie at home without 'the hair." I don't know what else to say about that. And her come on to Benny? Give me a break. IMO, this episode was actually not that great. SO benny gets arrested for beating up Quincy. Is QUINCY in jail. You'd THINK Benny would have said to the police "he beat my mom and shouldn't even be OUT of prison," and the cops would have at least checked Quincy out. But there I go thinking logically. I know the paper work MIGHT show he should be out. But again THAT entire plot was stupid -- because ONE LAWYER can't get ANYONE whose been CONVICTED out of prison. You need a judge AND a prosecutor to be involved. So unless she forged a whole lot of signatures....he shouldn't even be out. I DO think David was dumb to go back home...he doesn't know YET... that the simple bitch is actually CRAZY! I guess setting him on fire is yet SOMETHING ELSE he didn't THINK she'd do. Again, overall...a great disappointment. Oh yeah, Jim's "I'm tired" speech.....yeah right (eye roll) Although I did find the honest with Wyatt "interesting."

Am I too sensitive or was the conversation between Reza and Adam that touched on -- or danced around -- money, and who has more of it in the relationship -- a bit telling and uncomfortable. Why would Reza bring up to Adam that now he's wearing designer clothes and jewelry -- and infer that it's because of Reza and the money Reza has. Was that not throwing money in Adam's face? So Adam then says I can give them back...was that uncomfortable for anyone but me? Just subtlely controlling? What I don't get is why people laugh that off. Adam just chuckled. How immature of them both. Do you think people don't pick up on when others do that to them. I think I DID see the very slightest look of surprise reaction from Adam -- like it did hurt, but he just chuckled and said "I can give them back?" You throw shit like that in MY face, and I'd have to get serious and say you hurt me with that comment. Where is that coming from. How could you say that to me?" But Adam chuckled like a person unaware of just how denigrating that comment was. And Reza;s comment about Charlie's looks. Is Adam so gorgeous? I think Charlie and Adam are about the same level of cuteness in different ways. They look completely different -- but they're about the same level of looks. If that makes any sense. I don't know what I think about the GG allegations about Mike, just yet. As for Mike why does he seem so UNhappy? He doesn't seem like he's comfortable in his own skin. But overbearing parents and competing with siblings can do that to a person. But he's almost 40 right. he needs to do some DEEP sincere therapy and shake that childhood trauma. Mike is a poseur....Asa is a charlatan....MJ lets her mom talk to her like dirt.....nice crowd these guys. ETA: Mike just said Charlie is a 'goofball' Why? Why did he feel the need to do that?

I'm glad this show is back. Yes, "Gambling Gabe" I would like to see an update on him. I truly enjoyed learning more about the show "behind the scenes." I have wondered if it would be harder to find addicts who've never heard of the show, and who therefore wouldn't know an intervention was coming. But I guess most addicts aren't watching A&E... I notice they've changed the on screen text fonts. tweaked the open, etc. I WISH they'd leave stuff like that alone. I know when a show is seasons along producers feel the need to 'freshen' it up. But it was success full AS IT FIRST WAS. Stop messing with it! That said I must admit I didn't watch the season premiere episode. It was up against part of the "Good Wife" AND a "Housewives" show. So I'll have to catch it later. (I DO wish "hoarders' would come back. Intervention and Hoarders were GREAT companion shows for each other.)

That's why I blame the producers for the direction the show has taken.

I think this episode was fine. I'm GLAD they were able to discuss things without getting ignorant and loud. Another made up reason for a forced trips just to get them all together? Really. I don't think the show has jumped the shark. I think producers have run if off the rails with the constant conflict. I get that it can be a fine line to balance. On one hand viewers say there's too much arguing and acting ignorant....on the other say say the show is boring if there isn't a lot of that kind of nonsense going on. They say "nothing happened" in this episode. Well the truth is thatMOST of the time especially in the lives of people of means -- there's ISN"T a lot going on. Apparently drama = ratings...and more drama = more ratings. Would people watch is there WERE NOT this drama all the time? IS there a way to capture people's INTEREST to watch the show, without the catty, petty, BS these women seem to always get into? Would you want to see normal friendships of people who get along, or would you say that's boring? You can't have it both ways. If they just went shopping, and took trips where they saw the sights would people tune in?....

I've seen a few episodes and find it and the various personalities -- "interesting." Apparently it draws me in enough to watch it when I happen to catch it when I'm channel surfing. It's not appointment viewing, and I can't tell you when it's on....but if I stumble upon it I stick around and watch it. I and anxious for the cliffhanger/showdown that seems to be coming between Pastor Coretta and her husband.

Thanks for that info. I have to try to remember that most people are on social media, a lot. And I am not. I may visit message boards and forums but I don't do any kind of more personal social media like facebook, twitter, instagram. etc. I'm still not even sure how twitter works or what instagram is. I check email only once a day. and I do NOT text at all. So if you send me and EMERGENCY message by computer -- uh....maybe you'd better try to reach someone else:):) I readily admit I don't think high-tech so it wouldn't even occur to me to reach someone immediately through a computer. 2) As for Candace and Jeffery being "friends." I'm going to knit-pick a bit and say that among the younger set, they're the closest thing we've seen to friends. Candace may consider Jeffery a friend....but she said she was friends with Amanda, too. So uh, her definition of friends is a little 'skewed' shall we say? To this day I'm not sure if Kathryn and Veronica -- and Jim and David -- are "friends". I mean, they ACT like they are, but they don't trust each other. What kind of friendship is that for mature people of their age?

Yeah you'd think he'd have been invited, or at least his absence MENTIONED. But all these shows are funny about when some scenes are filmed and then shown in the final episodes. Would he have come, except he had to work? Did he just not want to be part of the debauchery? What?

I would LOVE To know (I think)....if TP already knows where he ULTIMATELY wants to take this show/these characters....and how long he wants it to last. I mean is this a 5 season/year show? and 10 year show? or a 40 year show like day time soaps have been. Although I know no NIGHTtime soap has ever lasted more than about a dozen years. AND those shows had a lot more money and creative writing talent than Mr. Tyler Perry.

Thanks for the update. Yes, Wyatt, SHOULD have been taken in. And there should have been more react and fall out right then at the hotel from Ronnie's vandalism. As for Ronnie and the pills we never see her actually take any but a couple of episodes ago she came out of the Cryer house before she and David left for the night....so she was outside alone. And she was on the phone asking a doctor for a prescription in a real sob story sort of way....."Oh doctor so-and-so I know there's no prescription but this once could you help my friend (she might have even thrown out the name) she's so upset. I'm sure you understand. She just needs something to calm her down." yada yada yada.

Come on! Some one get on here and give me the scoop! I won't be able to see the show until next week's repeat. So I've only seen three clips so far that Oprah.com is showing: 1) Kathryn and Jim (she's done, knows about the 7.4 mil and says he won't get a dime 2) David and Candace and then Jeffrey in her hotel room talking about Qunicy....AND 3) Veronica's 'simple bitch' tantrum. Once again TP could have done sooo much better....Veronica's tantrum -- The woman who wants to be in the governor's mansion acts out like that IN PUBLIC. -- This is a VERY high-end hotel -- with political people staying there and ONCE AGAIN -- NO SECURITY! -- So the people who ran from the bar had no cell phones, didn't scream and run to the front desk -- NO ONE...not a bellman, not a front desk clerk, not a security guard ANYWHERE to be found -- NO ONE steps in? -- All she did was through bottles and toss tables. (apparently they didn't want the set messed up too much:)) And she ranted...you'd THINK she'd go after David -- and jump him to scratch his eyes out. But noooo, she never even threw a glass his way. So she's not THAT crazy. A REAL simple bitch would have jumped HIS ass. I know I need to see the entire episode. I also can't wait to see if there's ANY fall out for Veronica from her getting Quincy out. Liner notes from the clip say Veronica thinks it was David you spilled the beans about her hiding the car. I suppose she doesn't know that WYATT knows, and she'd never think Jeffery would eventually grow a pair and turn her in. SO she just presumes it's David? Fill me in what else good happened?

Has there ever been a trip on any RHW show the DIDN'T DEvolve into a shouting match or fight as this episode did? These women (like all the other casts) can not have a conversation that doesn't devolve. Brandi only started the conversation because Eileen said or hinted about the tension and there being no resolution about the night before. And Brady finally just said "OK if we're going to go there, and talk about it. Let's do it. I might as well go first." I think Brandy IS mis understood. True, she does inappropriate things. But that doesnt' mean the ladies don't misunderstand her. And Brandy was the person who at dinner suggested they go around the table and say only good things about people. Sorry, but I just don't think Brandi IS the witch or bad person that people make her out to be. As Lisa R. said brandi has a veneer of toughness but deep down is very fragile, and is hurting. That leads to her subsequent behavior. I blame the dinner debacle on Eileen. SHE is the one who all day couldn't drop it. And regarding the slap. LIS VDP is the one who says SHE would slap Brandi (if Brandi kissed her) so it was then than Brandi said jokingly, 'so slap me (chuckle chuckle) I'll slap you back. Go ahead, you slap me, and I'll slap you." Lisa then said no. Let's just go. And then Brandi slapped Lisa, to keep the joking around going. BUT Lisa VDP didn't expect that. Even then she was shocked, And said "No, not that's not nice. That's wrong. Don't do that." So the slap while totally INappropriate. Wasn't THAT big a deal. It's not like Lisa went off the deep end or anything. LISA VDP said "out of no where" it wasn't "out of no where" LISA is the one who brought up the word slap in the first place. Why didn't Lisa VDP, handle her thoughts about that with Brandi, and resolve it between THEM. But that never happens on ANY of these shows.

1) To me. a sure sign of her delusional point of view, was the way she turned on the therapist. a) He was a professional that she'd had some experience with. b) IF she was upset and felt that the ladies and ganged up on her, WHY turn on the one person in the room who was indeed trying to get everyone to express themselves respectfully. I can see her not being please with how the session was going but the utter way she verbally attacked HIM -- from the initial "you don't speak for me. I don't know you like that"....to the "if you want to keep your license" -- uh REALLY? As a believer in karma, I'm not supposed to WISH for bad things for her....so I should HOPE she never works again, goes broke, and loses everything she has. BUT IF that were to happen I wouldn't feel bad about it. 2) As for Kandi and Phaedra....I think they just each had tough times, disappointments, and personal challenges that hit them at the same time. And that can make it seem as if a friendship has fallen by the wayside, when it really hasn't. Each one was busy with their on very involved issues. True, even so you'd think they each could make SOME time for each other. But MATURE ADULTS also: a) understand that the other person is going through hell right now b) TELL the other person I need to talk to you, can we make SOME time, even if only a lunch date to catch up, and fill each other in one what's going on with each other. ASK for what you need. While I thought their confab in Phaedra's office was "OK" -- from what we saw, the "I thought you said"...and "Why didn't you do this" ..."I would have expected you to do that" -- just highlighted how inept they BOTH are at communication. 3) I think Claudia got a bad edit. I LOVED her jokes. They were 10 times funnier than anything Chelsey Handler or Whitney Cummings come up with. I though pu$$y ate the mouse was very creative.

Dang It! I just realized I won't be able to watch this week's show tomorrow night/overnight (I'm off and I can only watch it at work) Anyone know if OWN repeats the show on any other night besides the NEXT week, before that week's new episode? Are FULL episodes available online, if so how many days later? NEXT Tuesday I'll be able to catch the repeat, before the finale. But any place to watch it before then? But I have to admit I was sort of looking forward to tomorrow night's show.

I love Diners Drive-ins and Dives. And actually like Guy Fieri on the show. But I've heard he can be an a$$ h...well, I'll say a jerk, at times. And tend to believe the show's producer who left about that. Anyone know for real whether he's nice or difficult to work with. And what's the deal with him not eating eggs -- and I think a read somewhen he apparently absolutely REFUSed to eat eggs.. because he doesn't like them. Eggs are NOT on the show that much, so unless he's allergic, he should suck it up, and it an egg once in a while. And taste the dish AS PREPARED. And as for the idiocy of how he says his last name....in ITALY of course one would roll the "R" in Fieri (so it COULD sort of sound like fee-eh-tee). But he's NOT IN Italy, didn't grow up in Italy and I don't even think that was even his given real, that he grew up with. He changed it. So the affectation of his Guy Fietty pronunciation is a bit much. I lived in Italy and speak Italian, and it's a bit phony for me.

Please for give my ignorance, let's just say I'm of an age where I didn't grow up with computers. I have a flip phone, and laptop, but no tablet. I don't do Facebook, LinkedIn, or anything like that where if I log on I could get in touch with a live immediate contact that could send help right then. like calling the police would do. But you're right, the computer is a mode of communication. How WOULD a person use the laptop to get help immediately? For example the only thing I can thing of (because like I said, I'm NOT tech savvy) is MAYBE come to a forum site like this post a note, and then eventually someone might see it. But who knows how long that could take. I'm sure it's obvious to some but I'm drawing a blank. But knowing what to do could save a life. As for Jeffrey, we know David goes to check on him. But where does he run into him? Does Jeffrey FINALLY go TO David and spill all the beans about it, and everything thing else. Because let's think about this logically: -- Jeffrey got out of the apt, but knowing what happened and that he gave Quincy a wrong name...would he go back to the apt. before seeing his dad or mom, or Candace. -- but knowing Jeffrey -- he actually has NEVER RUN TO David to help him....so....EVEN AFTER THIS would he NOT tell David about it, or keep even THIS between him and his mom. Because the last we've seen, Jeffery isn't at the apartment (likely? won't be there when David gets there)...so will David find blood in Jeffrey's sink and the apartment tossed...does he then call Ronnie (without knowing exactly seeing Jeffery and knowing what happened)......does he go back to Candace's room BEFORE or AFTER running into Ronnie in the lobby.....then he finds out what happened and goes BACK and finds Ronnie ...does Ronnie and Qunicy's conversation about "what did you do" take place before or after, the conversation with David in the lobby. I HOPE TP doesn't drag this out as sort of a David goes to the apt...meanwhile Jeffrey is going to David's hotel room, they miss each other. So in the mean time Jeffrey runs into Candace instead to warn her about Quincy.....and they're BOTH at the hotel when David get's back. OMG am I actually ANXIOUSLY awaiting next week's show??:):)

Have faith? Maybe we can pray the DEMONS' covering off of this show!:):):) I know, right. Talk about a WTF moment. AND she comes in talking about "your in my parking space." "Oh I get it I'll go and come back tomorrow....." The Wyatt "go to your room" is beyond lame. The man/boy is 20-something years old and Jim's talking about, "I told you go to your room." I'm still not crazy about John Schneider as an actor. But I GUESS his best work yet was this week when he was talking to Kathryn wondering "why he can't stop" and not knowing she knew about Celine when Amanda was born. His breakdown in A's room grabbing all over Hannah was just OK. I get that it was some great catharsis moment. But I wasn't really moved all that much but his emoting.

OK. I'll give you that. It sounds familiar. I just didn't receive it as being as cold as all that.

Is Bravo airing this episodes to frigging night's in a row...in the same darn time slot? That's what my guide says. Geez I know they do repeats. But this is ridiculous. Two night's in a row at the same time slot?

OK thanks. I didn't know where she was staying....the name never really was something I even think I heard. As for Candy's admirer Oscar, David did tell Maggie that he looks familiar....so MAYBE there'll be something with that. But who knows this IS TP we're talking about. And yes although, "Mr. Tony Watson" did want to unplug Benny I'm sorry -- it HAS NOT -- been established that he ONLY wanted to do it for the kidney. Benny himself admitted he wouldn't have wanted to live like that. Unless you have Tony saying to his doc...I know where I can get a kidney, my son's in a coma, how much time do I have to get it......to me, kidney issue is technically is irrelevant. The 'unplug' Benny issue was just rushed because -- of course in TP land -- every thing is either d r a g g e d o u t forever, or rushed in the blink of an eye. HANNAH says Tony wanted to unplug Benny for the kidney. And as for me, that doesn't make it TRUE. Tony say's that's not "THE" reason. I will alwasy be debatable...and given that's the case...What WAS the point of that scene. Oh and don't we see that Benny runs into the dead girls grandfather, who's paid Hannah another visit? DEMONS!

So whose room/apt did Quincy burst into saying “You lied to me.” Did Jeffrey give him the name of a the wrong hotel or make it up, just to buy time? Because we haven’t seen Quincy go to the hotel yet. So why would he go back to Jeffrey saying you lied. I must be missing something. 1) So that entire scene with Candace and David in the hotel bar? – no one else was there? Come on Tyler, just stop it with Candy Cane touching people's crotches. 2) Kathryn goes to Hannah’s house and says it “has a warm feeling” or something like that? WTF Really? 3) When Jim grabbed Hannah’s ankle in Amanda’s room...after she came back after calling him a demon....I was like so what is she now “the grief whisperer?” 4) NO! Celine did NOT show up talking about Hannah being in her parking spot!!:)J! Lord, Jesus! 5) Yo, bro? Is Benny’s tow-truck driver friend a “John Travolta in Grease” wanna be? 6) Now you shut up, demon, in the name of Jesus! J (Hands raised, shaking in the air like I just don’t care.) 7) I AM anxious to see who Candace’s admirer REALLY is..... 8) Candace wanted to know how Landon found out about her “Oscar” admirer...its’ called GOOGLE. She’s supposed to be so smart and they give her DUMB dialogue like that! 9) Candace is so big and bad...but she “blinked” asked Maggie about the interview with the law firm...AND “blinked” when Oscar the admirer went to walk away and called to him and ask him about bidding on auctions. Uh sweetie that info is readily available online. If she weren’t so busy being a ‘bad bitch” maybe she'd know that. 10) I see David will be given yet ANOTHER chance to show how "supposedly" bad ass, down and dirty he can be. Because the only time he TRIED to set someone up it backfired. He couldn't even set up a frame and he had the POLICE DOING IT. ...and he used his own damned bag in the set up. As always it's the writing and character development that is just so amateurish on this show. I know TP is laughing all the way to the bank. But damned man have some pride in you work! This is bad. (and not in a good way) I've always it found it so Tyler Perry stupid.....that Kathryn and Ronnie make such a BIG DEAL of their status and wealth......YET despite this .....NEITHER has ANY home security...AND they have all these damning conversations and antics go on IN PUBLIC. AND there's not a reporter -- or hell, even a normal person -- with a cell phone, a camera catching ANY of this crap. It goes back to Candace being able to get into Jim's JUDGE'S chamber, he THREW HER OUT AND ON THE FLOOR, with a couple of people sitting in the hall way....NO reaction what so ever. She continues to show her ass at his home, his retirement party, the opening of his campaign office -- and NOTHING. No security at this events. Now she's putting her foot in David's crotch IN PUBLIC, and I guess were about to see a David Veronica argument scene -- IN PUBLIC, with extras and bar patrons seen in the shot...and NOTHING. David's walking around the hotel -- about to announce for Lt Gov -- future Gov Jim Just had a major life event a cancelled press conference, Ronnie is some big shot, Kathryn is high society -- and NONE of them have a gatekeeper?? not a trusted secretary, not a personal assistant, who is a "right hand person?" Hell, David is staying in the hotel separated from his wife, no reporters snooping about that? No, he' just sitting in the hotel bar or restaurant by himself sitting at a table with Candy's foot in his crotch....give me a break.

Jessica, no one will blame you if you call it off. In fact, you'd actually be admired for waking up and getting out BEFOREHAND. That would take COURAGE! But butt off, celebrating your freedom than regretting putting any MORE time into this. I would encourage her to just date him, since he doesn't want to get married. But she wants kids so bad she can't think straight. Is he REALLY, REALLY the person you want to be the father of your children. REALLY? He's messed up. It's one thing, perhaps, not see the signs, and get into it, and THEN things go bad. But come on. You don't need this guy. I'm not going to call him a loser. But he has anger issues, can't seem to drink without getting drunk. He's just not ready for marriage. I wonder why GG ends up taking a polygraph. Either Mike sued her for slander or threatened to (which we haven't heard about, and would have by now) -- and she got pissed off and volunteered to take it...OR...if he called her a liar -- and she thought that rebuttal allegation was damaging HER image -- she did it to proof she wasn't lying.