As for the men's special....the bad English grammar, diction and pronunciation aside, I LIKED their man talk. Don't know if I'd watch a show with THEM at the center, but I like their chemistry and 'brotherhood.'
Todd -- genuinely nice guy
Peter -- would be likable, if her werent' such a douchebag
Gregg -- a non factor
Apollo -- his comments were very telling....
How can I put this re Phaedra and Apollo.....so people don't misunderstand me.... She knew him before he went to prison right? (or at least has known him a long time, right?) I wonder IF, just maybe, there wasn't a time when Apollo COULD have been back on the straight and narrow (assuming he ever was). And that another woman, not Phaedra, COULD have been the woman for him, and made the difference. ((And for all we know Phaedra may have her own shady past, IF what the Angela? girl who wrote a book about her is telling the truth. IF that's so, then Pharda and Apollo BOTH have their own 'legal issues." And in that case she wouldn't have been the best one to straighten him out...because she may have had her own shadiness.)) So, I'm NOT saying Apollo isn't ultimately the one who chooses right or wrong. But -- in GENERAL -- the love of the RIGHT partner -- CAN make the difference between the other partner choosing one path or another. And that for whatever reason -- her upbringing, her personality, or whatever, SHE just isn't the one for him. Maybe she has been a bitch all along. THAT is certainly NOT the way to build up your man. When HE THINKS he's gotten you this GREAT present -- you don't turn your nose up at it -- and say you don't want it. I can see WHY Apollo was hurt. Lots of men would be. Degrading his effort?.......if THAT"S how you treat the people you love, I'd hate to see how you treat people you DON'T care about. (And to be fair maybe she had concerns about where the money came from to PAY FOR all that car.) Now.....maybe Apollo just IS the scum of the earth, and a criminal to his core -- who never did want to do an honest day's work. None of us knows that. But Apollo did have a personal trainer business, right? or he wanted to be a personal trainer. And unless that was just a cover, and some BS that he just threw out there...I want to know did Phaedra encourage him to do better, to better himself -- and do it honestl?. Or was she always a bitch and critical of him behind the scenes....and condescending and insulting and dismissive as we've seen her be? And that's CERTAINLY no way to get someone to turn their life around. We only see a little of that on TV....imagine LIVING with that 24/7. We'd all be sick of her. I wonder WHY they're they're together....He says the sex has always been good....and she was pregnant before they got married, right? I wonder if neither one of them really WANTED to be together, but ....once the 'church girl' got pregnant and had to -- or they chose to -- get married -- or she threatened that he wouldn't see his kids and sort of forced him into it -- that was all she wrote. They became a married couple that never intended to get married. I just don't see any LOVE, or TRUE affection. Oh I see kissing and a lot of lip service (no pun intented)...but it doesn't seem like they WANT to be together. It started off on the wrong foot...and has never been able -- for WHATEVER reason -- to overcome the circumstances of how they started off.
