Snapdragon

No, in the final scene of the play, the nanny says something along the lines of, "So you're the killer" to the detective (Paul Rudd/Martin Short's role) and he answers with, "Yes, but I'm also the father." So I'm assuming that the mother left him and moved to the lighthouse (possibly because he was nuts and she was trying to protect her babies) and he found her and killed her, then either pretended to be a detective or actually is one, and used that as a cover to try and get his kids and apparently killed the constable in the process. The nanny figured it out and pushed him to his death, thus saving the triplets. I liked this season the best overall. The murder wasn't that hard to figure out (and a bit of a trope) but at least everything was logical, thought out and there were no loose ends. With seasons 1 & 2, I feel that it's really more the atmosphere and the dialogue that are enjoyable whereas the actual mysteries make no sense and are very all over the place. I knew the second they showed "Charles" in the dark apartment it was really Sazz. I'm with @paigow in that Sazz used her dying breath to spell something out in blood which the trio will of course misinterpret until the last episode (possibly second to last) of next season. I do wish that the elevator killer had been Tobert instead of Cliff, just because both mother and son going to jail (as one of them dies from cancer), is just really sad. I was holding out hope that Mabel would discover footage on Tobert's camera of the fall, proving that he'd been there secretly watching from behind a cracked door or something, but no such luck. I hope Mabel gets an actual job next season because 30, aimless and unemployed is not a good look.

I read an article somewhere online where the creator (Or producer? Someone who runs the show) said that their were some other couples that got engaged (and one even made it to Mexico) but they decided not to show them. Maybe they were all too well adjusted? If that's the case, I feel that they made a mistake because this season could use a few couples that aren't a complete mess.

Using the third person is very common when it comes to self-help or therapy these days. I'm not sure why. Maybe it makes it more personal? Or it helps the person to look at themselves from an outside perspective?

Does anyone know if this show has a makeup artist? For the pods portion, at least? Because if they don't, it might be a good idea to hire one because both Stacy and Taylor's makeup is pretty harsh.

I get JP not being into the whole tiktok makeup look that Taylor was sporting but OMG, there were so many more tactful ways to go about expressing that. Instead of saying her makeup looked horrible, he should have emphasized how pretty she looked without makeup and said (in a nice, non-judgmental tone), "Why were you even wearing all that makeup? You're so pretty that you don't need it." The fact that he basically stopped talking to her because of her makeup is bonkers. Who does that? I feel like the issues he had with his mom growing up have really left him with some messed up views of women (or at the very least, some unconscious misogyny). It's one thing to have a preference but to demand that your partner cater to that preference (especially one that deals with how they look), is insane. And how on earth did Taylor not bring up JP's plethora of patriotic clothing when he insulted her makeup? My husband kept referring to him as Captain America, since he only seems to wear red, white and blue.

Aww, man, I really liked this show. I was hoping that Topher Grace getting a lot of internet love over the Danny Masterson trial would help its chances of renewal but I guess not. Boo, ABC. Boo!

Is it just me or do all the couples suck this season? I thought JP and Taylor had a chance but her saying "looks don't matter to me anymore" after seeing him (unless they edited that and she said that while they were still in the pods) is not a good sign. Also, I find it kind of ironic that she's not into him physically because although neither of them are the hotness, JP to me is average whereas Taylor (with all her lip filler and whatever else she's had done), is slightly below. Then we have Uche and Aaliyah, with him giving all the red flags already and while sweet, Aaliyah seems a little sad since she stuck around even after how rude he was to her over the cheating thing. Then there's the entire Lydia situation... Which brings me to Lydia and Milton, they're just not going to last. He seems very nice and sincere but Lydia's got a lot going on there and she just doesn't scream "stable". Izzy and Stacy I guess could work? I don't know. There just didn't seem to be much there but maybe that means they'll be drama free? They're just so forgettable that I can't really root for them. I'd like to know who Renee was talking to because she's had a lot of screentime in the women's living area but we've seen basically zero of her in the pods.

The writers' strike ended last week but the actors' strike is still going on. I believe they are supposed to meet again for negotiations on Monday.

This strike needs to end because I cannot anymore with these actors touting their mediocre books.

When I was in college, I ran into a good number of guys who had recently read or were reading The Art of War. I think it's just a phase a lot of guys go through. Makes them all feel grown up and manly. LOL. The fact that Sunny is impressed by it makes me roll my eyes so hard.

Honestly, I think the ideal would be that you came on the show, met someone, got engaged but then were deemed not interesting enough for the show to want to continue filming you, which would free you and your new significant other to explore your relationship without all the cameras and married in four weeks timeline. I think 30 is a little old but I'd be fine if it was 25 and up. I feel that 25-35 would be the best age range for this show. Old enough to have some life experience and an idea of what you want in a partner but young enough that you can still have kids.

Finally got around to watching this with my husband last night. We both felt so bad for Aaliyah. I get how her cheating in the past was a red flag for Uche but as others have said, he should have told her that he was going to need a day to process and decide if he wanted to continue with their relationship. He seemed to take her cheating personally, which makes me wonder if he's been cheated on in the past. He was just so angry about it that I feel there has to be more going on there. Also, I feel that he should have asked about the cheating thing earlier, if he was going to view it as a dealbreaker. On the Chris reveal, this is why I do not understand people who let their minor children go on trips with no adult supervision. Why were he and his friend in Mexico by themselves at that age? There is no way in hell I'd let any of my kids do that. And yes, it is crazy to me how often sexual assault on males (and just sexual pressure in general) is often overlooked.

I'm a little confused by this comment. It's a dating show. They most likely signed up because they wanted to be on TV or because they thought it sounded like fun. All the contestants are in their 60s and 70s, so it's not like they're looking to get married and start families. No one is forcing them to do this and even with the usual Bachelor/Bachelorette contestants, most of them are just looking for 15 minutes of fame, not love.

She'd probably already sent it before Joy told her they'd broken up. Not sure what the timeline is but I'm guessing the entire season only covers a week or two.

Sunny is one of the most ironically nicknamed people that I have ever come across. To be fair though, why does her son keep bringing these girls home? He knows his mom is just going to give them the side eye and bad mouth them later. Just spare everyone the headache unless it's serious, Gabriel.

A round of applause to all of us on the board who figured out that Ben was talking to a cookie and then wrote "f**ing pig" on the mirror due to cookie guilt (Was it obvious? Yes, but I'm choosing to ignore that and pretend that we're all just murder mystery geniuses). I'm guessing that Donna did poison Ben's cookie (though I'm not sure if she was trying to kill him. Maybe just make him sick enough that he'd have to drop out of the show?) but that Tobert will end up being the one who shoves Ben down the elevator shaft. Ben probably decided he didn't want to do the documentary anymore after his near death experience, which infuriated Tobert since he finally had an interesting story to film. I laughed so hard at the exchange between Oliver and the "five whores" when he handed them the ladder. That, followed by the reveal that one had actually been a hooker and Oliver's "WTF?" response had me dying.

I'm also thinking that the producer mom is involved with one of Ben's deaths and her motive's got something to do with her son. I'm also starting to wonder if Ben might have accidentally poisoned himself on opening night? Perhaps he put something on some food (cookies?) to stop himself from eating it, then just gave into temptation anyway? Or accidentally ingested the poison somehow? The critic being involved is an interesting theory. Maybe Ben had paid her off for a good review, then changed his mind after almost dying and when he tried to go back on the deal, she pushed him down the elevator shaft?

Honestly, I feel people have gotten very "mob rule" about this entire strike. It's ridiculous to me that people are mad at Drew Barrymore because she was going to continue her show without her writers. She employees three writers. So because of three people who are on strike, a bunch of other people (who can't get work anywhere else right now because of the two strikes going on, even though they're not on strike) can't work. And what gets me is that when others bring up that The View didn't stop taping despite the strike, people go, "Oh, that's because it's a news show, so it's okay." LOL. Please. The View might be under the news division at ABC, but it is not and has never been a news show. This entire thing is just getting ridiculous.

People are wanting talk shows to shut down because of the writers' strike, not the actors' strike, so Whoopi's not going anywhere unless they shut down completely.

That's actually a really good theory except that it's so close to what they did last season (murder to provide podcast content) and I doubt they're going to repeat themselves two seasons in a row.

As I see it, since Dickie came up with the CoBro idea, he probably felt entitled to all the money that was to be made off of Ben's memorabilia. There was obviously some resentment there, so why not sell it and get what he's owed? At the same time, he also misses his brother, so I can see why he'd pay $7,000 (which he has readily after just selling all the CoBro merch) for the last thing his brother held.

The second they showed that childhood drawing and said that Ben had come up with the CoBro idea, I knew it was really going to be Dickie's drawing. Don't think he's the killer (though he's definitely Loretta's son) though. I'm assuming he paid $7,000 for the handkerchief because, as Uma said in the intro, after people die, you hold onto the things that remind you of them. My guess for the murder right now is the producer mother/son team. Maybe mother's protecting their sons is going to be a theme this season? So the producer mom killed Ben because he was going to mess up her son's first production in some way and she wasn't having it? Minor gripe: Mabel pretending that she was a CoBro fan when talking to Dickie at the auction. She was a big Girl, Cop fan, so why not bring that up instead? Also, I would have liked it better if when Theo told her he was a CoBro fan, instead of just calling him a nerd she had said, "It's cool. I'm into Girl, Cop, so I can't judge." Would have been a nice moment. Also, I'm hoping that Theo ends up being Mabel's endgame in the romance department. I enjoy their relationship and how it's been built up over the course of the show and it would be a nice ending for both of them that wouldn't feel forced.

During the season, I was baffled by Paul's attraction to Micah, since he was very eco-granola and she was very vapid, high maintenance. Then I saw his mother and thought, "Ah, I get it now", which honestly makes his comments about not being able to see Micah as a mother very telling. So yeah, of course Paul's mother loves Micah. She's a younger version of herself, in all her awful glory.

Okay, I just started watching this but had to pause it to type this. The sharing a hotel room thing is weird. I would get it if we were talking about super young people who had no money. But these are two grown couples with steady incomes. Why on earth would you share a room?

Count me in with those who think Loretta is Dickie's birth mom. All the pics in the scrapbook had him in the background and I'm guessing all the articles mention him too. I doubt Meryl Streep is hanging around for another season, so as much as I'm enjoying her and Oliver's romance, she's either a killer or they're going to break up for some other reason. Speaking of break-ups, I felt so bad for Joy when she realized Charles hadn't meant to propose. That was heartbreaking! Maybe Charles will get his act together and can win her back but I don't blame her if she's done with him. And while we're on the subject of relationships, is it really necessary for Mabel to have a love interest every season? They're mostly terrible, have no chemistry with Mabel and she always ends up looking kind of dumb because she chooses the shadiest character to get involved with. I mean, come on, Tobert isn't giving her creeper vibes? If Ben does turn out to be twins, then I'm guessing there's going to be two murderers this season. Or, Ben faked his death at the theater for press and then got for real murdered later.