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Dean spent 40 yrs being tortured and torturing in hell and yet the writers had him skipping back down those hell steps as if it were nothing. Thank goodness for Jensen who hesitated and kind of steeled himself before entering (it was noticed and there was a question at a con). Our writers are a bit too flippant about past history (emotional states and often established canon). It's frustrating. TPTB behind Buffy and Angel did a much better job at linking how the past affects the present.

There's such a glaring difference between the situations. The flippant Miriam, Jesse & Antonio versus the poverty and grim desperation of Jenny, Katrine & Abby.

It was glaringly obvious something was up with Sam during their reunion at that cabin.... and Jared actually did a good job portraying the fact. Too bad you missed it @Wayward Son. But Sam being so distant and weird about Dean's return certainly piqued my interest. But, of course, it soon all became OOC and stupid. One of the most frustrating storylines in the whole series.

I wish they'd never been introduced or at least presented as mysterious and ethereal. Cas was ok in the beginning, but now I can't even be bothered with him. The entity we know as 'Castiel' has been so manipulated by needs of plot and the whims of a variety of writers, I don't even know him.

I’ve been away on vacation. Just watched the episode, which I thought was pretty good. This episode belonged to Jensen – who’s got to be one of the most underrated actors on TV today. Jensen hardly needs a script - - we just know. It’s kind of a shame someone of his calibre is stuck with the CW. It’s the angels that annoy me the most. I wish they’d forget angels for at least one season. I’m supposed to believe they go to the trouble of popping down to earth, running about asking for possession permission, only to then engage in a stupid futile fistfight. It all seems so impractical and time-consuming. Especially when they have their ‘angel radio’ which appears to influence and stress Jack way more than anything else. Why not use that to get control and manipulate? And ending the episode with boring ol’ Luci & SuperDuperHunter Mary having a glaring contest in the AU? Really? Is that what TPTB think will get viewers all enthused to watch next week? Here’s something for the unpopular opinion thread – I hope they both die horribly... and soon! But anyway, I wasn’t gnashing teeth or yelling WTF .... so that’s something. Off to watch again. Then empty suitcases and face a pile of laundry.

The thrill has almost gone for me. I'll watch for Jensen/Dean because that character is the lone standout in terms of interest and kick ass. But season 11 and especially season 12 have almost killed the love for me. Nothing fresh, nothing new. Characters all going in circles doing the same stuff over and over. Nothing sticks. They stumble from one perilous dilemma to the next with little consequence or follow up. Adversaries are presented as powerful and scary, only to be watered down and fizzled out once writers get stuck in a plot corner. I wish I could summon some excitement about the new season... But it's all probably going to be same shit different day. Supernatural is past its sell-by date. That's my unpopular opinion ? Sob:::

So Ryan was once roomies with Jensen and now spending money on surgery to look like him?

This is what I'm not getting this season? Why would guys like Antonio or Jesse want a rushed marriage for a green card or to even come live in the States? They're just in it for the tv exposure surely?

I feel so sad for Karine and all the women living in poverty around the world. Things like Paul are their only way out.

First time - yeah, maybe I'd pay bail. Second time - your entitled ass is going to jail. These children need to learn consequences.

Questions are becoming more and more stupid and repetitious. Fortunately the guys always find ways to respond in an entertaining and amusing way. And that's talent in my book! Are you going to ask a question? Hope so. :)

For something to do I re-watched Ten Inch Hero. I've seen it so many times I just FF through the bits when Priestly isn't on screen. Anyway, out of interest I went to the IMDb site and checked out the reviews. It seems everyone was pretty much blown away by Jensen's performance. Lots of accolades for him. They hardly even mention the other characters or actors. He's always getting digs about his bowlegs, but I don't think it bothers him too much. Jensen picked out the kilt he wore. It wasn't in the script. Also with the red shorts and whistle... Apologies if I've posted in the wrong spot. I wish IMDb would re-open message boards. It was a much larger community than Prev TV.

She came across as ridiculous. Her daughters are doing dangerous life threatening stuff - and she laughs. Doesn't she watch Intervention? It can all spiral out of control very quickly.

This group are different from earlier seasons tho aren't they? Karine, Abby and Cupid Jenny are definitely in it for the green card and fit in with the theme of the show - but Myriam, Jesse and Antonio - I can't see these folk leaving their home country and rushing to marry within a 90 day deadline just to stay in the States. Spain, France and Holland... not exactly Haiti, Manila or Amazon Brazil.

I'll be hankering after a bucket o' KFC every time he comes on screen me thinks. Looking forward to Donatello. That actor was so great in Angel. Not looking forward to mouthy Missouri. Super duper bestest hunter in the whole world Mary is going to get up my nose. I can tell already. Why do they have fist fights with devils and demons anyway? Seems so pointless. And we've all been calling him Baby Luci, but he's more like Baby Castiel, isn't he? Looks like Cas, naive & unworldly like Cas and even wears beige like Cas. I forget whether angels are actually junkless, but it would've been so much more fun if Cas had been the baby daddy instead of Luci. S&D would've been proud uncles. Jack would have little baby wings and help out the brothers when Cas couldn't.

I'm even more convinced Dabb, Singer and the Nep Duo have never actually watched the show.

Why can't Dean Winchester just wear a black t-shirt sometimes? The Salvatore brothers lived in black t-shirts. 4 layers of plaid day in day out. It's really not fair. Thanks for posting photos... even when he's not filming and just standing about, Jensen seems in 'model mode' (to me, anyway). lol. I'm not keen on seeing Missouri again, especially if they're going to write her as a nag like last time.

What's the link? Can you vote if you don't live in US?

Filipino Cupid Jenny looks worn out. She's been through this many times - but at least this one has a camera crew following him about. So that Green Card seems a bit more promising... she could try a bit harder to look interested, tho. Darcy is more attractive without the heavy eyelashes and make up. Those ratty black extensions and choker make her look older too. Jesse is just weird looking. I got the impression Chris - who says he spends 6 months of the year in the DR - is not the ticket to the US that Abby is looking for. But she likes Chris the best from what we saw on screen. The Paris couple are just in it for the exposure and probably money. And this particular production crew get the best deal of them all ... filming in beautiful Paris as moth-eaten guy and pregnant gal see the sights.

@shang yiet - You are a writer's dream viewer. For me it's fairly obvious Sam had a breakdown. Too bad writers didn't give Jared a chance to act this out because I think he would have conveyed to the audience and garnered our understanding and sympathy. As it was, we were left to our own devices. It's hard to figure Sam because the writing for his character is often so uneven (IMO). Dean we know. Dean rants and raves or drinks or mopes in his room or punches someone or something. Had the storyline been the other way around and Sam disappeared and Dean drove off and hit a dog and shacked up with a vet and fixed AC units, I'm pretty sure we would have known Dean was broken and defeated inside. They never gave Jared a chance. The actress portraying Amelia was a wrong fit (notice she never shows up at conventions). What vet demands 'this is YOUR dog now' without even checking if the dog had an owner? And the sickly colour drenched Samelia scenes didn't help either. Sam not looking for Dean and the whole Gadreel debacle are examples of dreadful ghastly writing intended to shove a wedge between the brothers for soap opera secrets & lies drama.

Sam not looking for Dean has absolutely nothing to do with any silly pact. Their sick co-dependence is the stuff of legends. Half way through season 7 Dean disappeared in a puff of smoke (Time After Time). Not only did Sam not know where he went, he didn't even know where he went in the expanse of time. But Sam didn't diddle about or look for a dog to hit, he moved straight into "Find Dean" mode. He engaged Sheriff Jodi, used that hairy brainpower and they found Dean. It was clever, Dean looked fantastic in 1940 costume and all was well. Cue season 7 finale. Dean again disappears in a puff of smoke. He's probably gone to purgatory. He could be dead? But there's only bits of black Levi goo on the walls - no human gloop. Sam would have checked that surely? So Dean's in purgatory - pretty sure.... Cue season 8 premiere. Along comes 'Lets give'em some contrived angst soap' Carver. Out of the blue Sam is suddenly 'mature'. And according to Carver 'mature' equals Sam tossing phones, jumping into Baby, hitting a dog, then shacking up with a horrible haired vet. Around the world audiences sat up startled and yelled a resounding... WTF show!!!! It was writing at its worst. I will never forgive Carver for this OOC stupidity at the expense of Sam. And I'm not even a Sam fan. Dean's my boy. But there is no way in hell Sam would wash his hands of Dean. No way!! Not unless he had a major mental breakdown... which I can forgive. If only they'd shown it. A pact ? - he was sticking to the pact? I'm rolling my eyes so hard :(

The twins have big eyes like daddy. Not green, tho.

That carpet must be a pain to vacuum?

I never watched live feeds, just watched the clip in the above post. I'm no prude and I do swear at least once pretty much most days.... but so many F bombs in just general conversation! It all seemed so juvenile. And strutting about with tutus and rubber duckies... cursing and swearing and yelling trying to win a point. I dunno? Is this what we become when cut off from normal daily life? Have some self awareness people! The cameras are 24/7.

Holy Moly!! I am gobsmacked!! I can only assume we don't all get the same versions of episodes...???