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Where did these photos come from? Are they old or new?

Turns out, the props department actually used Moira's ring to give Felicity.

This is the best. I wasn't even sure whether to put it here or in the relationships thread. Because: accurate. Source

I thought about this too. If it happens, it will frankly make me respect Samantha (damn it, I keep calling her Sandra) in a weird, perverse way. Because swindling Moira Queen and getting money for presumably her grandson, but who is actually the fruit of her husband's loins is pretty damn gutsy. Imagine if Oliver started polling the women he hooked up with. Hey, Joan, I know we haven't been in touch since my third college, but quick question. Did you ever bang my dad?Speaking of sharing bedmates, I could practically swear that there's something like "Ollie and Tommy used to swap girls" on Wikia, but that was never stated on the show, right?

In the end, why would you care? This isn't the writers and producers we're talking about. It's not people shaping the show. So if another viewer has a different perception of things, it's just that, the way they percieve things. There are people who think Felicity made Oliver hang up the hood at the end of last season, but that doesn't color the way I see things. Which is completely the opposite.About the filiming notice posted in Spoilers Only, I really hope it's not Oliver and/or his nearest and dearest in that limo.

You know, there's another great moment in this episode and that's Oliver just popping a bullet into Ivo's head while he was mid monologue. Awesome. I credit Anatoly and his no bullshit attitude for this. I don't remember, but do we find out where Thea goes while she's all in a snit because 'everybody lies, waaaah'?

For all her faults, Moira was not a sociopath. Makes it easier for her to live in gray areas.

Who's to say. She's Lyla's kid after all.

Laurel aside, I remember this as the episode when S2 noticeably picked up again. It was just rolling from the very first scene. The bombing and the leap over the rail, Slade's breach of the Foundry is my favorite ever. Usually my reaction is Jesus, guys, your security is shameful. This however was too awful for me to care. The whole fight sequence was wonderful.

I honestly can't see Moira going for Quentin at all. Or him for her, really. Plus, let's get real, she'd have started a campaign to get Walter back at some point because that woman was no idiot and Walter is da bomb.

Hee. You went down an even deeper rabbit's hole than I did.

It's new. She's just posted a link to it on her Twitter account.

Even if it is... Oh, crap, what's her name? I start to type Sandra because that was the assumption from S2, but I know it's not. Samantha? Ok, if it's her (and I certainly won't shed any tears over her, because she is the worst), no way can this show support Oliver and Felicity raising a kid with everything going on in their lives. It's just not structured that way. He'd get sent off with his maternal grandparents and that would be that.

It's working now. Maybe it was a temporary glitch with ew.com.

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I hate the possible miscarriage as much as most of this board hates the possible (probable) wheelchair. Because she'll likely recover from whatever that puts her in the wheelchair and even if not, it would be possible to adapt and re-calibrate her life. If a baby is gone, it's gone and it's not coming back unless we're traveling back in time again, which, please no.

I think that's more along the lines of You know you are watching too much Arrow when... Happens to me too. I read a book blurb the other day and was, hey look, that's totally Oliver and Felicity in the 1800s. I have to admit I don't like the comparison because while I loved Anna and Bates in the first season, they turned into the dullest characters with same shit happening to them over and over from S2 onward.

There's a new time travel fic, Forever is Composed of Nows. My first reaction was great, another one, just what's needed. But I went in thinking maybe it will suck or it will push a button. Especially since it's co-written and not finished, and I'm always skeptical about those things. Will the authors manage to gel? Will it ever actually get finished? And if it does, will I care about it by that time? Sadly for me, it worked really well. Barry brings Oliver and Felicity's toddler daughter to the beginning of 2x19, right after the team blows up Applied Sciences. It's a great point at the show, everyone in the first chapter is very much themselves - Felicity, Oliver, Barry, Dig... Well, I'm not sure about Sara. It's not that she's out of character, there just wasn't enough of her there for me to judge. She definitely wasn't not Sara. The stupid thing's even got me considering scenarios in my head. Because, best thing? Moira's alive at this point. Moira That's My Fondest Wish For You One Day Queen could get the chance to meet her granddaughter. Whose mother is Felicity. Oh. It could have been worse? Also could have been better than the woman who revealed my long guarded shameful secret, but definitely could have been worse considering Oliver's romantic history. And then I imagine her reaction to the kid herself. I'm betting on smitten. Followed closely by proclaiming she would raise the child in her image. Cue Oliver and Felicity. Nooooooo.

Did one of them actually vocalize this? I remember someone did, but I may be confusing it with Felicity saying that in 3x16. One thing I remember liking was how Oliver just went after Isabel after she revealed her role in everything. I felt it showed actual respect for her that he didn't back down because she was a woman.

...... It just wasn't a good show after that. And to be honest, I only tolerated Mary when he was around because he always somehow made her softer. She was always so cold and terrible especially to Edith (who never really deserved her coldness)... I never really understood why people fawned over Mary. And I never really liked all of the Anna/Bates stuff especially when he went to . I did really love Cora, Violet, and Isobel though... OH and Branson :) I adore seasons 1 and 2. Adore them. But I have to admit my enthusiasm was already down in season 3 and I trudged along with season 4. I even forgot that Christmas special. Or was it season 5? Which one had the servants go to the beach? That was the clue that the show and I were done. I do read about it now and again, but haven't really seen anything that would make me want to watch the remaining seasons. I feel like it became too popular, leading to them prolonging it and Fellowes not having a set end date which would have allowed him to have a tighter command of the story. I got both sisters in the first two seasons, even though the thing with Pamuk was the dumbest thing I've seen Edith do. By involving your family in a scandal, you're ruining your own chances to wed, you fool, and that's your biggest goal at the time. I get the snipiness. For that first season, they seemed to lead very claustrophobic lives, practically being stuck at the Abbey. And they were only a year or two apart. It made sense. I also loved how they both evolved during the war, once they got that the world was bigger than them. Then after it, there was practically a reset. Not so much with Edith, who was branching out to London, but definitely with Mary. Although Edith was just as frustrating in how much she let get Mary get to her. She wasn't the "ugly" sister anymore, she had her own things going on. Just ignore it FFS. My favorite of their scenes was them going after Sybil and Branson. They weren't suddenlyy BFFs, but they had a common goal they were working for. That's what I wanted more of, really. Their off screen journey to and from Ireland will forever live in my mind. If it were up to me, I would have had them (very slowly) transitioning into a mirror image of Violet and Isobel's relationship.I'm just sad that Fellowes left them in this rut because I actually didn't find Sybil that interesting. I wanted nice things for her because she was nice and her ideologies certainly were the ones most aligned with mine, I just didn't feel compelled watching her getting or having those things. And the 73 same conversations with Branson in S2. My. God.

Whoa. Talk about a twist. So, it's almost positive that won't be it.

What if Earth 2 Moira totally dug Felicity? After all, she didn't get her son back and here she'd see him with a woman he loves and who loves him in return. I imagine it would freak the hell out of Felicity. Why is she being nice to me? Dig, if she murders me, I want baby Sara to have all my tech. Tell her to treat it kindly. Season 2 is without a doubt the superior season, but there were some episodes where the momentum was lost between the MSF and the final batch of eps leading to the finale.

I agree with almost everything you said, especially the second part of S1 and first part of S2 being the best this show has ever been. However, I've got to say that I just rewatched 1x09 (God damn excellent) and 1x10 last night. Gotta say, 1x10 was kind of a snooze. My attention wandered away more than once. Plus, I remember season 2 keeping the momentum for a few episodes (2 or 3) after the mid-season finale. But all in all, excellent list. Particularly letting characters explain their actions.

Tommy Cole is there too. Since you guys say he's KC's assistant, maybe it's a work trip for him. Fanta is there also. Plus she went to Cuba with EBR. I have no clue where the money is coming from.KC with her boyfriend - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3379383/Beach-day-beau-Katie-Cassidy-dons-patterned-bikini-spending-time-personal-trainer-new-love-Thomas-Taylor-Miami.html

I don't think Felicity was looking for a real job after S2, she was expecting Oliver would get Queen Consolidated back. That was the grand scheme, this was just health and dental in the interim. As for them going back to their previous versions in the črossover, I very much agree.