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They really are just horribly boring. Even worse, they don't make me laugh. RHONY has historically been one of the funnier franchises, but these women are almost entirely humorless. Such a bummer. Jenna is at least interesting, but Jessel probably comes the closest to making me actually laugh. She's ridiculous in a way that I can almost appreciate.

Have to be honest, thrilled it didn't end like this. I thought it was a pretty realistic ending for a dad who jumped back into a toxic relationship waaaaay too quickly and with very little thought to his real life. There was no reason for him to even let his kids know about Carrie this quickly, much less have her become competition (in Wyatt's mind.) I have little doubt that Wyatt has problems, but I think he also manipulated his big dumb dad. Hope to St. Samantha that we never have to see that big oaf again. ETA that I hated last season, but really enjoyed this one for the most part. Pretty happy that we're getting a 3rd. Also, so funny how many of us Walking Dead fans stopped watching at the same time!

Wedding was extremely tacky in the most Jersey way possible. Tre walking down the aisle looking like the Queen of the Jerz. God bless, it's not for me, but I get it. Margaret is honestly a massive, gross, overdone loser with nothing to offer. And, no, that is not a good weight for her, Jill. She needs a few pounds not to look like her own mother's twin sister. She's a nasty piece of work and may be my most hated housewife on any franchise and that's saying a LOT.

I loved it so much. This goes down as one of the best all time scenes on this show, for me.

It's insane how whatever Margaret has done to herself over the last year has turned her into a total Marge Sr. clone. I literally thought she was Marge Sr. in at least two scenes.

I have to be honest, to me it looks like they're taking her shit and begging for more. I think they know that if she stops reacting, the gravy train ends for them. They've always been pathetic, but this season is dramatically worse. Feels like everyone else has moved on, including the audience.

I thought it was just me. In the second episode, I thought this guy was Irish. Suddenly he's not at all. What's happening with this?

I hated camp. I have one kid who goes to a few camps here in NJ and one who absolutely refuses. So what? She finds things to do. Jen has a pool and other things for her kids to do and I"m sure they go on plenty of trips. It's really not my business. Marge is also the last HW I would take parenting advice from. The way she doesn't seem to give a single crap about how kids might respond to infidelity goes a long way in explaining her relationship with her own stepkids. I'm not Marge's biggest fan but even I was surprised at the way she responded last night to people taking issue with her "they can get therapy" joke. The way she responds to Jen's very reasonable feelings about Bill's cheating and the way it might affect her children is very chilling. If it were my kids, I probably would have punched her in the face. Gross.

I really really miss the winter seasons when they would be celebrating holidays, especially in NJ.

I was surprised to see such a strong reaction to Teresa's behavior, considering what has gone on on these shows for years. Certainly not the first time we've seen a glass thrown at someone. I mean, I think how she acted was ridiculous and embarrassing for a grown woman, but it didn't feel shocking to me. I got a little choked up at the memories of the Giudice house. I remember Tre and Jacqueline being in the hospital with their babies around the same time that I brought my youngest home. Watching that season got me through some loooong breastfeeding sessions. Seeing all those flashbacks with the tiny dorters made me realize how we've watched them grow up and how my own dorters are now also getting so much older. Sniff. Plus, I just loved the old seasons with the original cast. I enjoyed this show SO much when it was made up of people who were genuinely connected to one another. Even the people I couldn't stand (Caroline) I would watch in a heartbeat over these new randos. The flashbacks were a killer for me - I don't know that I can keep watching this show. I wish the best for Jackie who is clearly suffering, but I don't want to watch it play out because I find her hard to watch and I'm not buying whatever she and her bland husband are selling. I like Jen, but she could also disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care at all. I absolutely can not tolerate Marge who has nothing to do but gossip about other people in every single scene. It's relentless and her mouth is gross and she has also cursed us with some of the most insanely irritating guest stars that this show has ever seen. Marge Sr., the weird thirsty housekeeper, the irritating "assistant" who gossips with her, her sad sack of a husband who she also gossips at 24/7. Just awful all around. And Tre's house was a monstrosity for sure, but Marge's interior is a crime against interior decorators everywhere. This is a woman who can't stop talking about other people's business and I might threaten to punch her lights out too. Someone on reddit compared her to Linda Tripp and now I can't unsee it. I'll give it to the end of this season, but I might be down to just BH after this one.

They all look absolutely terrible. I like Jen's look the best, even the earrings. If she lost the boas, she'd look pretty good.

This is what I am talking about. Yes, I'm sure Jen dug into Evan (as did many others) and I don't blame Evan for being angry about it and I don't even blame him for yelling at Bill about it. But, when things really took a turn was when he demanded that Bill admit that Jen is a terrible (or horrible) person, which is demanding something very different that frankly no spouse is going to go along with - nor should they.

I'm sorry, Jen is shady, but what did Evan expect? That Bill would be like, yes, you're right Evan, my wife IS a terrible person. The woman I cheated on when she was pregnant with my child IS a terrible person. Uh.. I honestly didn't think much of the whole Evan cheating rumor last year, mostly because Evan is so boring that I could barely spend time thinking about it, but his reaction to Jen's digging around Frank's supposed photo proof is making me a bit more interested. He seems unhinged about it whereas he was pretty whatever about Tre last year. Why? Also he is so not hot to me. He's like a weird fuzzy bear cub or something. Joe B is a perfect match for his nosey wife. By the way, I can't stand to watch Marge talk. Bleh, she's gross. Get a life, Marge. Tiki and his wife are so thirsty. Louie is obviously very weird and I want to know more.

I've given up after this episode and turned back to RHoBH. It's not perfect, but at least Leah isn't there. When she said she was going straight to her family when she left, I was overwhelmed with pity for her parents. She's ruined this show, I can only imagine what she's done to her family. Will check back in when/if she goes. Will miss Luann and the noodle, but that's what repeats are for.

There was no reason to give the coat to her at that time at all, especially after all the insanity that had transpired earlier thanks to Sutton and directed at Crystal. They were all staying in the house, it's not like Crystal left her coat in the lobby at a hotel. Sutton did it to be weirdly aggressive all under the guise of "niceness" which is her entire MO. "That's what girlfriends do." What an absolute creep. I wouldn't want her as more than a casual acquaintance.