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The big question for me is how they will handle the actual physical appearance of the primary cast members for the third season. For the most part they were all 25 or younger when Season 2 wrapped in November 2021, with the exception of Alexa Demie who was 31 and Dominic Fike who was 26. Season 3 won't be out until 2024. It's not just the physical maturing of the cast, but whatever Hollywood work they have done on themselves to look good (I have no problem with Hollywood work). I thought there was a noticeable difference between Season 1 and Season 2; they all lost their baby faces. To be fair, half the cast of 90210 were in their 20s when they filmed the high school years (and Andrea was 47), but the self care products and procedures trending today are a lot different from what young people were using in the 90s.

Recollections may vary.

I don't think Olivia is evolved or psychologically healthy at all, but she seems to be the only one facing her issues with the help of a licensed professional on a consistent basis. Doing the work doesn't make you perfect overnight, but at least she's actually trying.

THANK YOU.

I know - I was referring question above as to whether she went through training camp as a rookie or a veteran. That being said, I've always liked the rookie pink better; I think it's prettier!

Drum and bugle Black Eyed Peas is an interesting choice, but I love the old school football game vibe!

VK was in Veteran blue in the videos, not Rookie pink.

You’re the best!

A huuuundred percent. On all counts! I'm the exact same age as they were on the show (class of '93). If you haven't already (I don't spend much time over on the 90210 boards, so I'm not sure if you're over there), check out the Again With This podcast by the Previously TV OGs. It's outstanding.

Great photo! Which cheerleader did this belong to? (curiosity, no other reason!) It looks like they get a star stamped on the leader ring along with a tiny diamond for each year they are a leader.

Pluto does that with 90210 also. They show the high school and college years, and sometimes it goes in order, sometimes it’s jumbled, but they never show the post college years like Steve being married with kids.

I think Micah's a dick in nice boy clothing. His behavior towards Olivia is a red flag. He had no right nor was it his place to address Olivia's issues with Kim. That's something Ethan, Olivia's husband should be working on with her. Micah can f*ck right off.

I'm having a reaction to the idea of using fat free salad dressing and vegan cream cheese to make tuna on a bagel. Gross!

Because that wasn't production's lead-in to the storyline.

Can we just go ahead and teleport her back to 1600s Massachusetts?

I wonder what Amber does for exercise; if she's in gymnastics or martial arts. She is super fit, not just thin. It almost looked like she and Mercy were practicing stunting in the backyard.

I completely agree. They're doing what they need to do to get the paycheck, and they've been steamrolled by Kim for so long that participating in production of the show is just another one of her edicts.

Not only that, Kim controlled the password to Ethan's credit card account and also did not pay Ethan back for the charges she put on his card. Triple WTF! They are/were so sheltered from technology that it wouldn't surprise me if Ethan paid his credit card bill by mail with a check, so I can actually see this being possible. It almost sounds to me like Kim's been leading some form of a double life behind Barry's back for a long time, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. But let's go to Jamaica. First and foremost, Moriah needs to learn how to cut her food into manageable pieces with a knife and fork. Her table manners are atrocious, and the production team kept panning to her wrangling a whole piece of food with her front teeth. It really started grossing me out. Second, I don't think there was any wedding. It was just a mini cast trip. Third, I really hated Micah trying to force a conversation with Olivia on an issue her husband should be trying to work through with her. Back to Cairo, Lydia saying she would be moving in with Barry gave me the creeps. Lydia gives me the creeps. I think the drama surrounding the tubing trip was manufactured. I still think Olivia's feelings are real, but production is capitalizing on it for storylines and Ethan is having trouble sticking to the script. He is one angry dude and he's only just now discovering how angry he really is and more importantly why. That's going to be a major road block in the Ethan/Olivia relationship and I'm afraid he's just going to take it out on her when it isn't her fault. They really should cut their losses. I think Kim is the criminal mastermind here. It's not Barry. I think she had Barry completely buffaloed because he was so enamored of her. He's not an attractive dude and he bagged a pretty, blonde, Florida State party girl. There have been many times where Barry was a complete and total DICK but I think that was the work of Kim's puppet strings. And now the kids are starting to come back around and defend her (Micah, Moriah) and it's bizarre. So bizarre. I think it's time this show ended because we've seen the dark side of it and its no longer entertaining.

….I’m watching this episode on Pluto right now and all I can think of or say is….Uncle Rico??

I think Olivia's points and her feelings are 100% valid. Unfortunately for her, she hasn't found her way out of it and hasn't been able to separate her feelings about Kim so she can be supportive of the rest of the family. I can relate to that; I've been there. I've been the asshole. It is really hard. Time + experience will help her mature, and hopefully she will learn how to effectively set boundaries. Although she has tried, I don't think she's been that effective. To be fair, Ethan's own massive pile of sh*t that he's not dealing with doesn't help. Overall I think Olivia's in a lose-lose situation with that family and she hasn't figured out how to get out of her own way either. She has a lot of work to do, but it's also like trying to run up a sand dune. It's going to take a lot. Moriah can miss me with her so-called breaking point with Olivia. Yes she's entitled to be very frustrated with her, but Olivia and Ethan picked up all the pieces and Ethan paid the bills when Moriah was on the floor in devastation over Max's infidelity, so I kind of don't want to hear it. She's a little too Stockholmy about Kim and it's weird.

This comment 1000x over. I had a boss like Bethenny and she consistently used to pit us employees against each other. We were like a chess board to her. That's exactly what Bethenny does.

I think Naomie and Pringle would be a cute couple 😬 I’ll see myself out 🤸🏼‍♀️

It’s really nothing more (ha) than a 7-8 day event put on by an event planning company like Rafanelli or what have you. The “butler” is an event manager and primary host attendant. The event company subs out everything from the furniture/linen/china/glassware rentals to the kitchen staff and all of the talent. They source the swag and gift bags, coordinate the transportation, all of it. Soup to nuts, and you basically pick everything from massive catalogs of their contracted vendors. Dorinda provided the venue. Not to say that isn’t a feat in and of itself, but this is really a carefully planned event for this cast of women by an experienced planning company.

I think it's more that Naomie was the victim of the cycle of narcissistic abuse from both Metul and especially Craig. If you know, you know. And if you know, you also know it takes a while to break free of it. It's not like flipping a switch and walking out the door. It takes a lot of work, and the road out isn't perfect.

She does this weird thing with her mouth in an effort to make her dimples stand out more. It's like Amanda from Summer House sucking in her cheeks all the time.