Donny Ketchum

I'm okay with the change to Daisy. If nothing else, I'll remember to call her that.

Were we watching the same season? In what way did the bad outweigh the good in TAR25? That easily had more good than bad in it. Easily.

Oh, so that was the deal? No wonder I felt like that whole episode was a mess!

Title wasn't mine, @Spartan Girl. It was @WendyCR72's. I've returned to add poor Rachel's birth parents in "The Good Child." Pretending to want to get to know her and be in her life, only to really be the killers of her adoptive parents just to make sure she inherits their money, and then be planning to off her next so they can inherit her money. And then, her birth father, the bigger scumbag of the two, turning out to be planning on offing her birth mother so he gets the money all to himself! And I can't believe I forgot about Keith Tyler's father in "Tru Love," an episode I really shouldn't have forgotten because it introduced my girl, Wheeler, my favorite detective of the series! But yeah, Keith's dad was a pig, banging all of his son's teachers (and even many of the mothers of his fellow students), leaving him embarrassed, picked on, and bullied at school. He also made him watch his "homemade porn tapes," as Wheeler called them! He even gives his own son a black eye for trying to defend Danielle to him! It's no wonder Keith wanted him dead (assuming he did -- I don't think it was ever revealed whether or not Keith and Danielle meant for him to die).

I was tempted to start one for this, but I needed a title quote like the SVU board had. But I guess @Spartan Girl was okay with not having one. I'd like to add David Keith's Mark Virgini character in "Unchained" from season five for the simple reason that he tried to pimp Renata out to Logan, as well as to the mob boss and his underling. And then slut-shamed her when she helped to bust him. And another season five "favorite" is Danielle from "Dollhouse," in which she used poor baby Charlie to scam and extort men for their money. Now, I put her about on the middle of the scale since she was planning on him being accommodated and taken care of when she moved to Alaska, so there's that, at least. But nevertheless, what she used him for was awful. And hell, let's throw in her own parents for what seemed to be their willful blindness toward her crimes. With a family like that, while her own crime was reprehensible, I can understand damn well why Claire would've plotted to kill her, even though I didn't condone it at all. And I love Rip Torn. Love him to death. But his character in season six's "Bedfellows" really needed to be punched, stabbed, and shot six ways to Sunday, particularly over what he did in the final few seconds of the episode. Goren and Eames both looked rightly disgusted with him. More to come if I think of any.

That's a good answer, but it only answers it halfway. What was the motive for using the lye balloon in the first place? The surface reason for Roy plotting to kill Carl and then himself was the plagiarism. But the underlying reason was what Goren pointed out -- that Carl was basically going to risk ruining every opportunity that Roy had fought to secure for him. Being black in NYC was tough enough as it was, and Carl was going to make it tougher on himself should his fraud/plagiarism ever come to light.

Addressing all three below: Speaking of "The Saint," the murder always confused me. What was Stephen's character's motive for killing the old woman, and how, exactly, does lye do the job? Shouldn't she have had to consume it, not just get it on her face? The whole lye balloon thing stumped me. And I think Roy was crazy. You could kind of hear the cracks in his personality starting to appear in his delivery of "You stupid boy. You stupid, hateful boy." Not to mention the faces he was making as he said it. Though I certainly agree that killing your own son over plagiarism is beyond over the line. Finally, did what Eames spot contribute in any way to actually solving the murder? I think not.

Was that the terrible mother in that episode? Because that's amazing! From meeting reality stars to actual stars, it sounds like you're very much involved in the entertainment industry, @cooksdelight! As for the episode itself, if this board had a "worst parents" thread like the SVU board does, that disgusting excuse for a mother would be right at or near the top of the list. I totally agreed with Logan that there was no way she was crying for her daughter at the end of the episode. Just for herself and her imminent demise.

Nope. As I said, in the cold open (which usually contains the setup scenes to the initial murder), she was shown telling a guy about Dorian (though not revealing his name) and that she'd fallen for him. There was a lot of love on her face and in her voice. Plus, Goren and Eames had found proof of her feelings for him after learning from her father that she'd been preparing to move to NYC full-time to be with him.

THANK YOU. Abigail did admit that she was just as responsible as E.J. If you wanna be mad at anyone, be mad at everyone who tried to brush it aside. But Abigail herself most certainly did not. At this point, it just disgusts me how desperately you all seem to be finding excuses to blame her and trash her for that when she did own up. So sorry it wasn't to the extent or degree you all wanted it to be, but she did own up. I still don't know why they had to kill Paige. Just let her transfer to Stanford or something till they need her again.

I think it was just to make Dorian look and feel like such a heel in the end when he ended up realizing that the victim really had come to love him. I mean, in the cold open, she's shown admitting as much to . . . someone. So he basically killed the woman he loved, who also turned out to love him back.

Soooo "Pravda." This was on USA tonight/this morning. Gotta love those supportive parents who try to kill you and then plan to kill themselves over a simple thing like plagiarism. Seriously. Carl was right. No one cares about plagiarism anymore. Maybe colleges and universities and high schools, but I don't know of any institutions or venues outside of those that do. I will say, though, that Carl went from one extreme to the other in that final scene -- sounding completely unsympathetic by boasting about how he'd fooled the greatest editors in the country, then sounding almost completely sympathetic when you could hear the hearbreak in his voice in realizing Roy was really going to kill him. On a side note, nice to see the show escape the lily-white perps and have a rare black one. Or three, considering "Stray" with the black Bonnie and Clyde-like killers. Diversity exists in the perps, too, I suppose. Two straight episodes of African-American perps. Also, for as much trash as you talk about her, @WendyCR72, I do give credit to Bishop for spotting something that Goren missed. It's rare that anyone sees something that he doesn't. (I think even Eames never succeeded in doing that.) She paid attention to Carl's more recent article and recognized a passage from it that was later revealed to have also been used in one of his high school works. That was probably the key thing that helped her and Goren figure out that Roy had figured out his plagiarism and thus his motive for murder. I'm just sorry that poor Katya had to pay the price.

Meh. Sounds like he's doing something productive with his life now, so as long as he's been behaving since being in there and actually contributing to society, I'm not gonna get worked up over him being out since at least he served time at all.

I forget. Did this one have Cyane, the girl who was pulled from the future to save the Amazons of the past? Because yeah, I wasn't into that one. I was mainly taken out of the episode because of that (even though I oddly found her kind of sweet and cute) and found myself wondering if she ever got home, back to her time. Would've sucked to have known she was stuck in theirs.

Actually, my boyfriend and I were talking about that one a few days ago, and he liked that one quite a bit. In fact, he said Leah was his favorite of Xena's lookalikes, despite her only appearing that one time. We both enjoyed her freaking out over learning that neither Xena nor Gabrielle were virgins. And also, back in the early minutes of the episode, when Xena thought she was first Diana, then Meg, and a had a very warm smile on her face for each one. It showed to us that while her lookalikes did annoy her at times, she still felt a good sense of friendship toward them.

It was before she started keeping the Jake secret, so yes, she did. She was mainly talking to Lucas about Michael's estrangement from Carly over keeping the secret of Sonny killing A.J. Since Elizabeth had yet to cover up a murder for someone else, then yeah, I think she had room to talk about Carly at that point in time.

Months ago, Elizabeth said just as much to Lucas. She didn't doubt that Carly loves Michael, Morgan, and Josslyn. But she knew that Sonny, Jason, and herself were her top priorities.

And I have to come right out and ask this. WHY? After all of his hypocrisy, douchebaggery, and terrible treatment of women, how could you like him, @Bishop?

She basically did say elements of that. T.J. just wouldn't hear any of it.

I'm actually more of a fan of Ward now that he's evil more than I was when he was good. But I agree nonetheless. The writers would need a truly believable reason for him to make it out of season three alive without at least being incarcerated. The latter would at least give Brett options for recurring or guest appearances down the road.

And no Belle in sight? Wasn't Martha coming back for a while?

There really was something very creepy and unpleasant about watching someone smother a woman to death while simultaneously singing to her baby, then continuing to sing to her while standing over the body of said smothered woman. I can't believe the show went there. I'm actually more shocked that Christine killed Eva because I'd thought they were actually friends.

Hi. We're best friends and former NFL cheerleaders. We're also the first Hispanic women's team since TAR12's Marianna & Julia. I'm kind of endeared to them knowing that one is in healthcare and the other works with kids. I think they could be a very nice, fun team to watch.

Hi. We're best friends and the resident alpha-male team that is probably going to bore you. Seriously. Alpha-male teams very rarely fail to make it to the end. Won't be a bit surprised if these two do the same.

Hi. We're dating business partners. An older dating couple. I hope they at least do better than Jeff & Lyda from last season and don't go out first.