Donny Ketchum

It is, and one of my favorite episodes.:)

That would be "Trade" in season nine. And no, I didn't feel sorry for Jenna, either. She put herself in that mess.

I wouldn't, either, but I wouldn't throw racist epithets, either, no matter how much I was grieving.

I hope we can use this thread to find other episodes, too. The one in which a woman died while swimming in a pool because she'd been poisoned ahead of time. Which one was that? Title and season, please. Oh, and motive of the perp.

Speaking of that episode, why did Goren just leave so suddenly after the perp was busted? I never got why.

Michele from BB11 comes to mind.

Steve won part two of the final HoH Competition.

After seeing it mentioned in season two's thread, I thought of another horrible parent: the father in "Suite Sorrow." Manipulated his own daughter and her own love life for years, did all sorts of messed-up shit to her. Even though it wasn't part of Goren and Eames's plan, I almost can't blame his daughter for offing him at the end.

Oh? So Tequan will be leaving soon?

They went there in season ten. They also had a rock task there, among other things. The Cho Brothers, Erwin & Godwin, were eliminated there. So far, it's the only visit they've made there. So Spud finally performs and gets himself and Rock into first place after being in last place in the last episode. But if anything could take them out in the future, it could be Spud's potential to go for any dare he's given. Ennui & Crimson don't look half-bad without their makeup. But after they got over the horror of losing it and just seeing themselves for who they are under it, they got right back to business. I'm a bit shocked that they've been together three years without seeing each other under the makeup. I wonder if Jacques & Josee are going to quit to send the Hawaiian lava rock back to Hawaii? Ryan & Stephanie totally hate each other, yet they're going to remain in the race with each other? Um . . . okay. This episode was pretty light on most of the teams. Seems like a lot of it surrounded the Owen & Noah/Emma & Kitty drama and Ennui & Crimson's drama, as well as Rock & Spud's rising underdog storyline. Other than that, I heard some things from MacArthur, Junior, Carrie, and Devin, but not many others. I was a little sad to lose Jay & Mickey. With six men's teams left, though, we were due to finally lose another one. And I'm glad that Emma at least felt bad that her trick basically eliminated them. Well, now we wait out the weekend before the race goes on.

I really don't see the problem with that. They'd just had a fight about Chad earlier that day. She probably just wanted to avoid having another one about him. It didn't bother me that she didn't mention that her dream was about him.

Opening sequence revealed for TAR27, along with Second Chances: http://www.eonline.com/news/697307/get-ready-for-survivor-cambodia-second-chance-and-the-amazing-race-27-with-their-new-opening-credits?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories Looks incredible! :)

Opening sequence revealed for Second Chances, along with TAR27: http://www.eonline.com/news/697307/get-ready-for-survivor-cambodia-second-chance-and-the-amazing-race-27-with-their-new-opening-credits?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories Gotta say, it looks pretty sweet. Too bad they'll forego it every week on TV like they've done for several seasons now.

To be fair, she didn't even pay him to do that. She just paid Andrew to stalk her. The kidnapping he did all on his own, even without her knowledge at first.

Actually, they're not anymore. That ended when Abigail heard about Gabi's part in Melanie's kidnapping and that she killed Nick.

John is GONE now. Finally. Why discuss his winning chances? There are none, so that's irrelevant.

Ah, since I mentioned them on another thread, I might as well mention them here. Brittany, Andrea, and Paige from "Mean" deserve mentions. Granted, we have no knowledge of what their parents were like, but everything described about them made it sound like they'd all been raised by decent parents, so I think they can qualify for this thread. Brittany snaps and kills her supposed "friend," Emily, over something, and Andrea and Paige just stand by, do nothing, and help themselves to Emily's belongings after she's murdered. As Casey says in the episode, "[T]hey're monsters. They're mean, vicious little girls who think they can do whatever they want, and up until now, they've gotten away with it." I'm still happy with how she made sure they all went down. Holden was a terrible kid, but I don't know if he qualifies here since his mother doesn't sound like she was a particularly good one. This was mostly about otherwise good parents who still had shitty children. That said, at least he was taken down by Rollins instead of Olivia, for a change. Her doing nearly everything was getting very old.

I've never seen that one. How did they do it?

I had rage blackouts every time she was blamed for this. Thank you both for bringing up that all she did was help Michael sort through his conflicting emotions and made a suggestion, not an order. I've never liked T.J. with Molly, so I hope that that does indeed result in them coming to an end.

That first one was his business, yes. I wasn't talking about that. But yes, the second one was absolutely none of his business.

I like him, too, and I hate it, as well. I don't know where it even came from.

Uh, she was horrible to Sonny only in response to Sonny being horrible to her first. Over something that was literally none of his business. Otherwise, she tried to be as civil as possible to him.

Not only did I feel no sympathy for Jessica, but I also felt none whatsoever for her friend, Tommy, for beating up poor Rudi unprovoked. Not that I condone murder, but hurting a guy just over his weight does deserve some form of karmic payback. As Blaine said at one point in the episode, Jessica and Tommy were the ones who threw the first punch at the Bixton kids. They started everything. So the Bixtons essentially finished it. Didn't feel sorry for Emily, the dead girl found at the beginning of "Mean," either. She spent her entire high school career bullying poor Agnes just because she was fat. So hearing that her other friend, Brittany, killed her over something dumb while her other two friends, Andrea and Paige, just watched and took her stuff after she was dead was a nice dose of karma for her, too. Doesn't excuse them, of course. But again, karma at its finest.

But she killed that Horton to help another Horton. It kinda balances out. I think that's why Hope was the most torn about the whole situation when it came out.

So the Beijing episode: I found Noah's attempts at wooing Emma amusing, as well as Owen and Kitty's frustrations with how badly they were playing things. Hey. Jay & Mickey finished third on the Dubai leg. How did they end up with the last four teams en route to China?! Josee still doesn't realize that her lava rock is bringing her and Jacques bad luck, I see. I don't know how Devin doesn't see that Carrie has the hots for him. Seems like everyone else around them does. I did like Carrie averting Devin's gaze so she could pump her fists at the camera during their confessional, though. And I did like him encouraging her through the eating challenge. But even so, she would be a better girlfriend for him than this Shelley would. Ryan & Stephanie totally hate each other now. Yet their mutual hatred drives them right into a win. Crazy. It was hinted at in Hawaii, but it's now on display here. Brody is totally crushing on MacArthur, much to Geoff and Sanders's surprise. Dwayne has to feel embarrassed right now. He and Junior got stuck with the last group because he had to go to the bathroom before getting their flight, and then he's in a delirious state because of scorpion stings, forcing Junior to coax him through the rest of the leg while he's in said delirious state. Junior's one strong, determined kid, and he's not even in his teens yet! So this is the most we see of Rock & Spud. Rock tries to motivate Spud with these chocolate pork snacks to finally get them up in the ranks and out of last. It does get Spud moving, but it doesn't get them out of last. And in the end, Spud gets them penalized when, in his sugar high, he does the Botch and Watch that Rock is supposed to do. It's irrelevant because they come in last, anyway, but fortunately for them, it's a non-elimination episode, so they're still in it. Honestly, they're the only team left with no real storyline, so they have to go in tomorrow's episode, right? They have to. I don't want an animated version of Andrew & Dan, Brian & Ericka, or Josh & Brent and see a cockroach team stick around while other, stronger, more deserving teams get tossed in favor of them. Besides, the show needs to start trimming down the all-male teams. Nearly halfway done, and we still have six of them in it! There are no Yields or U-Turns, but there are NELs. But they're treated like the ones of seasons one through four of TAR in that there is no non-elimination penalty. No mugging of money (since the teams don't seem to have them, anyway), no mugging of possessions, no being marked for elimination, and no Speed Bumps. Just being told they're still in it, and that's that. And with twenty-five episodes leading up to the finale and likely only three teams making it to the end, that leaves room for fifteen elimination episodes and ten non-elimination episodes. We've had four non-eliminations thus far (that saved Gerry & Pete in Canada, Laurie & Miles in Iceland, Ryan & Stephanie in Hawaii, and, most recently, Rock & Spud in China), as well as six eliminations (Leonard & Tammy in Morocco, Gerry & Pete in France, Mary & Ellody in the Mediterranean, Laurie & Miles in Brazil, Tom & Jen in Romania, and, most recently, Kelly & Taylor in Dubai). All-Ins are the equivalent to Route Infos in that the teams must have both members complete the tasks. Either-Ors are the equivalent of Detours in that the teams must choose between two tasks. Botch and Watches are the equivalent of Roadblocks in that one member of each team must perform the task. But unlike TAR, this show forces the teams to have their members take turns, which I think would be a nice change for TAR to implement. It would prevent laziness from showing up in weaker team members.