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Derek said when he got the gift of cigars that he didn't smoke. (I guess he meant cigars.) I don't think the gift of cigars is a weird choice from a nonsmoker; it's not unusual to celebrate a marriage or baby with a cigar when you don't smoke. There's even a cigar bar option available at some wedding venues. So I think Heather is open to occasional smoking when it's social smoking -- and smoking of legal substances. I see it as Derek asks if he can smoke, Heather says yes, then it's a daily ritual of smoking pot when he wakes each morning? I can see where Heather would not be thrilled. Maybe 2-3 days of it goes by before she says anything about it. Later Derek claims in a talking head that he stopped. Well he looked high as f*** during the cave talking head so when did he stop? Agree about the questionnaires. I had to fill one out (not for this show) and it specified what occasional/social smoking, drinking, drug use was. And it asked you to list what substances you used. ITA about the dresses. I think Heather wanted to look glam but the dress fit poorly. I don't think Sonia's dress fit well; she's quite busty but the top was baggy. Living with someone is very different than occasional sleep-overs. If she's used to living by herself, I can see where this would be a shock to her system. And I think they could have allowed them a day/night apart to regroup. If Derek is constantly yapping/sniping, that would be hard to tune out when you're used to silence. I don't agree with PC/Pastor Shouty (I like that) that when you are married, you don't get alone time. They said that to Tres & Vanessa last season. Yes, typically, as a married couple you are together but maybe one travels for business or works out of state etc. And there's such a thing as trial separations. When married couples fight -- there aren't only 2 options of staying together or divorcing --- they can separate and work on their relationship apart. Ideally, yes, they'd stay together and work on it from there but that's not always the best option. Heather's and Derek's relationship is toxic. Why, we may not find out. But I do think it's in Heather's best interests to go home by herself and regroup. Heather looks shell shocked to me. Not sullen. Not pouty. Not aloof. But shell shocked as in "what the hell did I get myself into?!". Derek to me looks like he has mood swings -- he's funny, charming, easy going and then he lashes out, is angry, loud, insulting and then he's calm because he's over it or he is sulking because he's not getting attention/reaction. Heather is more measured, more even keel, and yes highly critical and judgy. I think she's confronted with a situation that's really new to her and while she thinks she knows everything (she's so black and white, very regimented), she is at a loss at what to do here so she shuts down.

Add to that, 2 weeks before the wedding where you get the news that you are matched & your wedding date, you go dress/tux shopping, and the little planning you get to do like pick attendants, notify family, take time off from work, house/pet sitter etc. Pretty jam packed!

Right. Does it cover though what you earn during the marriage? That could be what the post-nup would do. Derek is attracted to Heather physically and he's pissed off like a teenaged boy that she won't put out. If he couldn't get it up or maintain an erection, that's on him. Not her. If your 'theory' happened, then Heather is a better person than Derek because if the roles were reversed, Derek would be blabbing about Heather's failings. We don't hear Heather doing that. I do think there was some initial attraction on Heather's part but then something turned her off. The weed smoking was part of it. How Derek acts like a Jr. High Schooler in arguments, is probably another part. But I do agree with other posters, that there's something we haven't seen. Of course, Heather could just blurt it out and perhaps she should. She reminds me more of Neal from last season. Do tell --- what is a 'run of the mill female'? Heather? Lilly?

Adding... It's clear that the scene with Pastor Calvin was highly edited. PC is gesturing to someone off camera more than once. As for Heather not mentioning smoking, maybe she did. Or maybe, unlike Derek, she feels that she already brought that up and doesn't need to mention it ad nauseam.

Sonia explains that it was an incident with her grandmother's Saint Bernard with another little girl.

Derek lashed out when Heather started to answer a question and barked at her to "just leave". He wants her to call it quits. Either he doesn't want to look like the 'bad one' on camera or it's about the money. Probably both. The other 2 couples got to return from their honeymoons without emergency meetings and return to their own homes separately and sleep in their own beds for 1 night before meeting up the next day to look at each other's current homes. Did Heather and Derek not get that option? That would be crappy. Sonia is trying her best but she needs to work on her insecurities. Nick starts to like Sonia as a friend, gets all nice, catches himself and then tries to push her away with snarky sniping comments. Awesomesauce. Nick and Lilly. Oh man. The unfinished (and poorly finished) bus with insufficient power and water for 2 with a hard bed and no storage. His stinky dirty feet. Her awful hair and capitulating to everything he wants (except dirty feet in bed). Yeah. Not gonna last.

Yea, I know. Doubt Jersey Shore Vinny knows. And there's a host of other "rescue" shows that they can apply to once they find out.

Jersey Shore Vinny, his mom (who appeared on Season 1 at least), and his fame whore Uncle (who has been on every show he can get). So Vinny wants to win to help his mom open a restaurant. No experience. No knowledge. Just good old home cooking. Seems like they'll be on an episode of Restaurant Impossible next.

So much for that. BUZZR took off Super Password, Child's Play, and a few others. Tattletales only runs for an hour on Weds morning which sucks because the show was shot 5 episodes in a row. For Match Game and the Family Feud, it seems they are airing different episodes early in the morning but runnign the same old repeats in the afternoons and evenings. WTH. Are they that challenged at making a schedule?

Does matching a career-oriented goal-driven woman with an aimless happy-go-lucky take-it-as-it-comes man ever work? While opposites may attract and some times work in the long run, is this a recipe for success when pairing strangers?

Yes. Hence obnoxious and self centered. I saw the convenience store one and the library. Who wants to buy something that turns them into a social pariah? Millennials? #getoffmylawn

Well, they are certainly gonna feel older if they need to put the stolen mattress in the back seat of the rover to get busy. How big is this rover? Seriously that was one of the worst things I've heard. And I saw Florence Foster Jenkins. And listened to D-Wirks. Pretty hypocritical. He judges others for their cars and homes. But thinks a luxury tour bus is ok. And designing/building luxury yacht interiors is ok. But wanting to own a new car is not. And fancy houses are not. I floved Lilly's face on the post-nup convo.

Rovers. They still make those? Kinda sounds like an Edsel to me but who knows. Is that the same broke down car from 4 years ago? Or did she get a new car 'cause she looks pretty in a bar. And does she only look pretty in a bar because he's got beer goggles? So they are in the back seat of the Rover that she can't afford and he bites the tattoo on her shoulder which transports them onto the stolen mattress. Is that like a Narnia thing? Rover, shoulder, Boulder, older.... What about colder? That rhymes. Makes sense that the stolen mattress which normally would be described as 'hot' is cold because you know it snows in Boulder. I wanna to hold-her but it was cold-er on the stolen mattress from Boulder.

What the what is going on in this thread? Deleted posts, name changes, nonsensical ramblings, "insider" information... ok, the last 2 are not new but c'mon. It's enough with making up crap and claiming you are a reality show expert because you worked in it, you were approached for a show, you know someone on it, your friend was cast for you, you were cast for it, you stayed at a Holiday Inn last night ... it's like sybill. I was watching the VMAs and saw something just as bad as D-Wirks. Chain Smokers. Wonder if Derek moonlights as their writer? Some of the worst lyrics I've heard. And I've listened to 2 of Derek's raps.

Supposedly BUZZR will be airing 'new' repeats starting Monday. For those that are tired of seeing the same 50 or so episodes of Match Game, Family Feud, Block Busters, Password, and Tattletales, there's hope!

"Makes water wetter" is now what we say when we hear anyone BS. Somehow these bozos get away without listing ingredients. Probably dish soap. SO Snickers make you younger, smarter, sharper and Milky Ways make you slackish, lazy, and irresponsible? Oh... think I'll just have a Kit Kat -- wait, that would make me obnoxious and self centered. Give me a break! There was a sci-fi movie where this person had the ability to transmit other feelings to people. In one scene, he confronts deer hunters and touches the wounded deer and the hunter. The hunter dies from shock from the pain.

Urine Gone - the pet stain remover - is fantastic. I don't bother with the kit with the black light but my boss used it to find where in the basement the cats were peeing. (Answer: all over) It's great on any surface, removes all bodily fluids (animal and people), doesn't leave an odor. I had a foster cat who had a rough few months and it saved my carpets, cat carriers, bedding, bath mat, sofa, clothing, etc etc. I get it from either Bed Bath & Beyond (with the coupons) or Walgreen's online. Bacon cup - I have the black plastic mold that lets you wrap bacon around it, then you microwave and you make a bacon basket for your eggs. It's cute.

Variety has a good article on Steven Hill http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/steven-hill-dead-dies-law-order-adam-schiff-1201842935/

I thought their shifts changed and that Manhattan South sometimes covered for them. I know they worked until midnight at least 2x. The reduction in detectives were mentioned as budget cuts.

Wonder what the secret might be... Wish there were hints... /s

If you all hadn't mentioned it, I'd never know that Nick was promoting clothing. Besides the shoes at the wedding, I can't recall a single thing he's worn. As for his AirBnB rentals, one of you needs to bite the bullet and ask some rental questions. From what I saw on the site, the places are really small one bedrooms that he's advertising 4-5 people --- air mattresses and sofas (not even sofa beds!). Guess he caters to spring breakers or young singles.

He's been out for 12 years so it doesn't seem like he was in for that long. Maybe 4-6 years?

I had no idea he was in all those Mel Brooks movies. I had only seen him on Bob Newhart and Barney Miller.

I think it's worse than weed. I think Derek made Heather listen to his mad rap skillz. Word. #imhigherthanmyrentis

Heather needs to learn how to be in a healthy relationship. Maybe she will learn something about herself in this process that will help her in her next relationship. Maybe.