S11.E18: Reunion Part 1

[biakbiak]

34 minutes ago, DebbieM4 said:

don't blame them at all for feeling "been there done that".   Especially because she is not at all gracious about it and comes off as extremely entitled and superior.

Not to mention she mentions them in the show so they are also on the spotlight when they go with everyone staring at them and gauging their reactions.

[KnoxForPres]

On 7/16/2019 at 11:27 AM, Happy Camper said:

Once again, Bethenny contradicts herself. 

"....because I had this security presence in Dennis. If it was Thanksgiving and I was going to be alone I could always be with him."

But then on Mother's Day, Dennis could not be present and  "I ended up alone."

Except she wasn't really, she was with the only person that should have mattered on that day. Another reason why we can't take anything she says at face value.

That diatrabe about Dennis was so obviously rehearsed. She likely had notes prepared and was studying them before the reunion.

She's insufferable.😕

That’s the part that bothered me the most. We know she’s an insufferable victim but this one felt a stretch.   Had he blown her off and been hungover in the bed on Valentine’s Day, all right, maybe. But Mother’s Day?  

To drill down more than it’s even worth- admittedly per her words he seemed to adore Brynn.  But Beth, who was raised by wolves, should feel stronger than most about the sweetness and special time that daughter and mother can spend ALONE on Mother’s Day! 

Hell I was fortunate enough to come from an ideal family and each May mom texts me and my sis to discuss our plans. Dad can come, fine, but more often than not it’s just us.  

Its why I can’t muster sympathy for anything. The skinny girl who cried wolf. 

From her streaming her dogs death (or whatever that was) to just the kind of insane level of over the top allergic reactions. I’m devoid of caring emotions. She’s in tears at the reunion and (show cross mention- Denise on BH crying made me feel compassion) I yawn (if not outright yell “oh for fucks sake, again Beth!”). 

[smores]

9 hours ago, Jack Terrier said:

Exactly.  Spousal survivorship is the term being used in the god forsaken state they lived in.  Being legally married has all sorts of legal ramifications and we thought we had all the bases covered.  

It's important to get a pre-nup and also make sure you keep assets separated if you are re-marrying and there are children involved.  Things like this happen even when there isn't a divorce that hasn't taken place.  Say Carol Brady had gotten a huge estate from her late husband and it was supposed to be passed on to her girls after her death.  She marries Mike Brady, but then dies before he does.  Everything goes to him and she trusts him to leave the stuff to her girls.  He either decides, screw them and I'm going to give my boys everything or worse, he remarries a new person and then he dies and the new person now gets everything from Carol and Mike and keeps it for HER kids.  

17 minutes ago, KnoxForPres said:

To drill down more than it’s even worth- admittedly per her words he seemed to adore Brynn.  But Beth, who was raised by wolves, should feel stronger than most about the sweetness and special time that daughter and mother can spend ALONE on Mother’s Day! 

She didn't say that though.  She was asked about Dennis, she answered with an example about Dennis.  It happened to include Mothers Day.  But at no time did she say that she had an issue with spending Mother's Day with just Brynn.  She was just saying this was an example of a time that he had said we were going to do something and he didn't show up and that's a reason why we had issues, he was not reliable.

[film noire]

54 minutes ago, smores said:

  But at no time did she say that she had an issue with spending Mother's Day with just Brynn.  

Frankel complained that Dennis promised to make a fuss about her, and instead, she "ended up alone"  - which is not just a complaint, but a complaint that erased her own child's presence (and on the one day celebrating having a child).

I'm pretty sure most (stable) mothers don't need an on again/off again boyfriend paying for brunch at the Plaza to make Mother's Day feel special  - just having a healthy child spending the day with you is more than special enough.  

Edited July 17, 2019 by film noire

[QuinnM]

1 hour ago, smores said:

She didn't say that though.  She was asked about Dennis, she answered with an example about Dennis.  It happened to include Mothers Day.  But at no time did she say that she had an issue with spending Mother's Day with just Brynn. 

And in the past if Mother’s Day fell on Hoppy’s weekend she does spend it alone.  It’s happened at least once that you can see from where/what she’s doing on insta that day. 

[film noire]

10 hours ago, QuinnM said:

And in the past if Mother’s Day fell on Hoppy’s weekend she does spend it alone.

And similarly so,  if Father's Day fell on Bethenny's weekend.

That equal offense aside, Frankel wasn't complaining about "being alone" because Bryn was with Hoppy. She was complaining about "being alone" - even though her child was by her side -  because there was no date with Dennis.

Unless Hoppy was mind-controlling Frankel, that shit is all on her, not her ex husband.

Edited July 18, 2019 by film noire

[Happy Camper]

Imagine the reaction if Jason announced his disappointment at being left alone with Bryn on Father's Day because he was stood up by his on again off again person.

Why are we mourning Dennis? What a jerk.

Reminds me of the blind item some time ago about an east coast housewife who was told to pack her bags with a fabulous date being planned, including a PRIVATE JET.

When she arrived there was no one there and she was left standing alone with her suitcases.

Can you guess who?

[SweetieDarling]

10 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

Imagine the reaction if Jason announced his disappointment at being left alone with Bryn on Father's Day because he was stood up by his on again off again person.

Why are we mourning Dennis? What a jerk.

Reminds me of the blind item some time ago about an east coast housewife who was told to pack her bags with a fabulous date being planned, including a PRIVATE JET.

When she arrived there was no one there and she was left standing alone with her suitcases.

Can you guess who?

I remember that blind item! Was that about Beth? It sounds like it may have been.

[Happy Camper]

Just now, SweetieDarling said:

I remember that blind item! Was that about Beth? It sounds like it may have been.

We have ourselves a winner! You were the first one to guess correctly!

This guy was a jerk. If they had broken up instead of his passing he would be villified on this board just as Jason is. 

[SweetieDarling]

25 minutes ago, Happy Camper said:

We have ourselves a winner! You were the first one to guess correctly!

This guy was a jerk. If they had broken up instead of his passing he would be villified on this board just as Jason is. 

And she stayed with him -or went back to him- after that?! I'm sorry, if you leave me standing on the tarmac with my suitcase, all excited for some private jet trip to who cares where, like an idiot who's been duped by a Nigerian prince wanting to share his millions with me, there had better be a DAMNED good excuse, or I am OUT. Talk about a walk of shame. And she went back for more? Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me. I think she needs a new therapist.

Well, she said she would never remarry. Dating asshats like that will, surely be void of true commitment, imo.

Can you imagine if she had shared that story about his random unreliability?

Edited July 18, 2019 by SweetieDarling

[lasu]

On 7/17/2019 at 9:00 AM, Jack Terrier said:

Just my 2 cents on the whole "it doesn't matter if we get a divorce".  Think about the people you're leaving behind.  It's a huge cluster f*ck when you die.

Believe it or not, I've actually experienced this even more first hand than you. My dad died and his estranged wife (my dad literally died on the day he was eligible to file for divorce) got everything, down to my baby clothes my dad kept all those years. (I was an only and my dad a single dad, so it was just two the two of us growing up and we were very close.)  It's unfortunate that your FIL's lawyer didn't make sure he understood the ramifications of not being divorced no matter what his will said.  I just don't think in Bethenny's situation, either of these are applicable, because I doubt she cared about getting any of his material wealth and was likely ok with his family getting everything.

It just seemed to me like someone is saying you should date someone who isn't divorced because they might die and then it get crazy.  Death makes everything crazy.  I would have been glad if my dad had dated in the final year of his life, even though he was still legally married.

[LibertarianSlut]

On 7/15/2019 at 1:54 AM, stcroix said:

  I can't believe I rewatched the last two episodes (fast forwarded 1/2 reunion until I stopped seeing Beth's trying-to-cry face) so I watched an episode and a half.  And I'll probably rewatch the entire season next year before Season 12 begins because I'm Bravo's Ho like that 😞 

Wait, this bothers you? STAWP! 🙂 

(BTW, Frankel, why can't you hold your own damned umbrella?  Why did you have young, buff guys with Secret Service earpieces escorting you through the whole thing?  Just how important do you think you are?  Weirdo).

[Jack Terrier]

2 hours ago, lasu said:

Believe it or not, I've actually experienced this even more first hand than you. My dad died and his estranged wife (my dad literally died on the day he was eligible to file for divorce) got everything, down to my baby clothes my dad kept all those years. (I was an only and my dad a single dad, so it was just two the two of us growing up and we were very close.)  It's unfortunate that your FIL's lawyer didn't make sure he understood the ramifications of not being divorced no matter what his will said.  I just don't think in Bethenny's situation, either of these are applicable, because I doubt she cared about getting any of his material wealth and was likely ok with his family getting everything.

It just seemed to me like someone is saying you should date someone who isn't divorced because they might die and then it get crazy.  Death makes everything crazy.  I would have been glad if my dad had dated in the final year of his life, even though he was still legally married.

So sorry this happened to you also!  I hope for you that you get to retrieve some of those cherished items at some point.

Yes, I agree the Bethenny and Dennis situation had nothing to do with money etc it was more a quick look at the questions that kept coming up about it not being a big deal to move on without a divorce.  I just picked your quote to quote and share a shitty story of why/how it matters.  I say if you're separated go ahead and date!  Have fun!  We only ride this ride once.  No need to wait to live your life.

With Dennis, his wife and children are fine.  There was never a divorce so she and the children get it all as the surviving spouse.  It worked out "fine" (other than his death!) for her.  Oh yeah, and it worked out great for Bethenny also.  Totally forgot she is such a great place now in her life because she finally got off the merry go round due to his death too.  Eye roll.

[Happy Camper]

11 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

(BTW, Frankel, why can't you hold your own damned umbrella?  Why did you have young, buff guys with Secret Service earpieces escorting you through the whole thing?  Just how important do you think you are?  Weirdo).

It's difficult to hold an umbrella, your Iphone and a selfie stick at the same time.

Edited July 18, 2019 by Happy Camper

[lasu]

2 hours ago, Jack Terrier said:

So sorry this happened to you also!  I hope for you that you get to retrieve some of those cherished items at some point.

Unfortunately it's been almost 16 years at this point.  My gift is that I had a great relationship with my dad when he died - no one can ever take that from me -, and that I never have to deal with That Woman again.