Season 21 Live Feed Discussion

[Brian Cronin]

1 minute ago, zorak said:

Jack: "Fuck!  I hate that I've put myself in a couple."

Dude's in TWO showmances! One platonic and the other sexual!

[zorak]

Jack's sort of crying telling Christie about dreams he had all night long.  I think it's about his ex that he seems to be really hung up on.  He says that "she" wouldn't talk to him or look at him.  And he said he loved her.  Christie says that if Jack could call her, "she" would definitely pick up the phone and talk to him.  He says he doesn't want to pursue this thing with Sis.  

[Lady Calypso]

1 minute ago, Brian Cronin said:

Oh yeah, they should be the low people on the totem pole for sure, but I never get people who want to blow up their alliance this early. Nick and Bella talk way too much, but they also clearly aren't working AGAINST the larger group. They just have their own additional agenda. That's enough to want them out ahead of the others, but not this early. 

The alliance has kind of been over for a while. Nobody trusts Nick/Bella and this week just solidified that. Also, I'm just pissed at Bella so I would not mind her leaving next. However, for Team Good Feeds, I want Nick/Bella to get A FUCKING CLUE and realize their alliance has turned on them and them and Sam are pretty much alone. 

[zorak]

Jack says he has to figure out a way to bring it back to the friend zone with Analyse.  So he beat Jackson's record of having sex 3 times with Kat before breaking it off.

Christie told Jack that probably the best way to go about it would be to make it about Jack and his feelings towards his ex.

[Halting Hex]

On 7/4/2019 at 3:35 AM, vb68 said:

And again, [Jackson]'s already being super whiny and defensive that David is back.  

I swear, I read this as "that David is black" before I caught myself.  I may be just a bit prejudiced myself wrt Mr. Michie, I admit.

[zorak]

Christie is talking with Tommy and Jack now and is telling Tommy that they are going to focus their efforts on building a rapport with Nicole.

[zorak]

Christie just thanked BB for wanting her to hear the juice this morning by not calling her to the DR.  Then Jack sang, "The best part of waking up is hearing Cliff talk shit."

[Pass the Tequila]

12 minutes ago, zorak said:

Jack's talking to Christie about trying to "buy" Cliff.

I can't wait to hear about the reception Cliff gets when he rejoins the group! 😨

[zorak]

Now they're talking about bringing David into the fold if David comes back in the house.  I think David seems to be their preferred choice because they think they can lure him with the promise of being part of the powerful alliance that David seems to know exists.  They also wonder if Ovi told Cliff about his power or not.

2 minutes ago, Pass the Tequila said:

I can't wait to hear about the reception Cliff gets when he rejoins the group! 😨

Now I'm not sure if they were talking about Cliff or David with that remark.

[zorak]

Holly to Analyse:  "Fuck Nick for targeting me!"

Holly says she could "fucking castrate Nick".

[zorak]

Analyse says they were idiots for always talking game in front of Cliff.

[Pass the Tequila]

4 minutes ago, zorak said:

Holly to Analyse:  "Fuck Nick for targeting me!"

The nerve! Lol

[missyb]

28 minutes ago, zorak said:

Jack says he has to figure out a way to bring it back to the friend zone with Analyse.  So he beat Jackson's record of having sex 3 times with Kat before breaking it off.

Christie told Jack that probably the best way to go about it would be to make it about Jack and his feelings towards his ex.

An all female ghosted alliance could be in the making ! They can call themselves Ghost Busters.

Edited July 9, 2019 by missyb

[zorak]

Jack's trying to smooth talk Nicole in the HOH room.  He says he really cares about her as a person.  He says they are able to fill in a lot of gaps since they don't hang out with the same people.  He says he wants it to be mutual where they have each other's backs and let each other know if anyone plans to backdoor the other.  I hope she's not buying this bullshit.

[missyb]

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Analyse and Holly agree that Jack and Christie are "loose lipped" and say too much to too many people. Holly says Jackson too, but just because "he's stupid." They agree that Jack/Christie are too confident and that they think they "run gr8ful"

[zorak]

Jack's telling her he wants to protect her game.  Why would that even make sense?  I hope she sees through this.

[Dmarie019]

I hope Nicole isn't buying this either. She seems smart enough - I hope.

[zorak]

Jack says he wishes he could say more and do more.  Nicole wants to know if it's definite who's going home this week.  He says the house is probably leaning towards Kemi.

Jack is telling Nicole that he sees her going far in this game.

[zorak]

Jack says he respects what is best for Nicole's game.  Well I think what's best for her game is to get him and his cronies out of the house.  Jack's telling her he'll always protect her.

[Brian Cronin]

I don't think too much of Nicole's game, but yeah, I think she's smart enough not to buy this bullshit. 

[zorak]

He says if putting him up is best for his game then so be it but then he adds that he knows that that's not what's best.  He says she's always welcome up there and if she ever needs to talk, blah blah blah.

[Brian Cronin]

I can't actually recall a dominant bromance like this before. You have stuff like Brett and Winston, of course, but they weren't the dominant force of last season and Dan and Memphis obviously worked together, but nothing like this Jack and Son deal (as the idea was that they were secretly working together and not an open bromance). They're essentially running the game as a showmance/bromance. It's bizarre. 

We've had plenty of male-dominated alliances, but not specifically just two guys working this closely together at the top of the pyramid. It really is like a showmance. They're totally dedicated to each other. It's fascinating. 

[HurricaneVal]

What about Dr. Will and Mike Boogie?  That goes a loooong ways back though...

I do hope that Nicole is smart enough to see through Jack.  I fear, however, that inside she's squeeing "He's talking to me!  He's talking to me...  He.  Is talking.  To ME!!!!!!  OMG OMG OMG....."

[Growsonwalls]

Derrick and Cody? The Brigade? 

[zorak]

2 minutes ago, HurricaneVal said:

I do hope that Nicole is smart enough to see through Jack.  I fear, however, that inside she's squeeing "He's talking to me!  He's talking to me...  He.  Is talking.  To ME!!!!!!  OMG OMG OMG....."

I'm sure that is exactly what Jack had in mind when he was spewing all of his crap up there.  I hope Nicole realizes that it's no coincidence that Jack is telling her he would never ask who she's putting up after certain other people were cornering her about it yesterday.

[zorak]

David seems to be pumping Kat for info.  She's telling him how she was really close to Holly and Jackson the first week and then he decided he wanted to disassociate from her.  He asked her if that's when she told him she had just been kicked out of her alliance and she confirmed.  But she asked him to not say anything.  She says it's ok.  Kat says she doesn't want to have to rely solely on one or two people to carry her through the game.

[jonaswan2]

11 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Derrick and Cody? The Brigade? 

Jack and Son are very reminiscent of Derrick and Cody, but it's actually two Cody's that think that they're both Derrick.

[zorak]

Jackson is telling Jack that he thinks it would be best for Jack to cut things off in public with Analyse (except for when it's the 6 of them hanging out).  He says they can still keep up the stuff that goes on after dark because nobody knows about that.  Jack said he's inclined to go about it the other way where they are still friendly in public but that they are no longer sleeping together.  Jackson made some comment about how that wasn't a good idea because it would be like not having your cake and not eating it, too.  He's such a sleaze.  He told Jack it wouldn't be a good idea to just cut Analyse off completely because she would withdraw and be emotional and stuff along those lines.

[Brian Cronin]

44 minutes ago, HurricaneVal said:

What about Dr. Will and Mike Boogie?  That goes a loooong ways back though...

I do hope that Nicole is smart enough to see through Jack.  I fear, however, that inside she's squeeing "He's talking to me!  He's talking to me...  He.  Is talking.  To ME!!!!!!  OMG OMG OMG....."

Boogie left very early in the game. But you're right, All-Stars Will and Boogie apply perfectly. However, that was always kind of nonsense, in the sense that Boogie held outside influence over all of the HGs that season. There was no reason to piss that guy off as he controlled their ability to get paid in the real world. 

40 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Derrick and Cody? The Brigade? 

Both dominant alliances, but not based around just two guys like this. Derrick had a bunch of guys working with him that season, and the Brigade was more than two guys, as well. 

Cody and Cowboy would count, but Cody was obviously very close to Diane, as well. 

Edited July 9, 2019 by Brian Cronin

[urusai]

2 hours ago, Dmarie019 said:

Jack just went to the bathroom

Did Anal-lyse follow him in?

[Nashville]

2 hours ago, lids said:

To me, the people in Camp Comeback should be trying to put together as much information as possible so they have a running start when they get back in the house.

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The comeback competitions are usually physical and I guess it could have some memory questions based on the comps they’re watching. Ovi sharing intel about potential alliances would in no way help David get back in instead of him. It just helps both of them once they get back in the game to be as informed as possible about their houseguests.

I get what you mean - and ordinarily I would agree - but one great big frikkin’ caveat leaps to my mind: Julie’s emphatic statement regarding the Campers: “They will continue to play the social game”.  This makes me think it’s more than likely the Campers’ BattleBack comp will be a test of how well they’ve socialized with the remaining HGs - i.e., the comp where they score points based on how well they know personal details of the other HGs’ lives, and not-so-common factoids about life and events within the House - and if that’s the case, then sharing information could definitely torpedo their own chances to win the comp.

2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

One of my go-to phrases in life is "Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence"

Buddy, you and me both; when I kept an office downtown, I had Hanlon’s Razor printed off and taped on my office door - on the inside face of the door, of course.  😆

2 hours ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

This is like adult Dr. Seuss and I love it.

So Jack and Sis met up in the shower

But Jack soon caught a whiff somewhat sour.

”Should I find myself worried about this?”, Jack said.

But Sis looked so hot, and her folks’ dreams are now dead.

So parents’ illusions are shattered, ‘tis true 

When some dipshit’s Thing One finds their baby’s Thing Two.

But it makes it all so much the worse, you must see

Is when all of this happens on network TV.

😉

2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

Oh, Cliff, you fucking moron. 

Good for Christie. I think that this is the right play. There's no benefit to her for sitting on this. This really helps Jessica, by the way, as Cliff has to be a bigger target now.

This is some Shakespearean shit right here with Cliff done in by his own vanity. 

Shakespeare, or Stephen King?  😁

”Once, when his father had caught him listening at the door in their old house – Mark had only been six then - his father had told him an old English proverb: never listen at a knothole lest you be vexed. That meant, his father said, that you may hear something about yourself that you don’t like.

Well, there was another one, too. Forewarned is forearmed.”

Stephen King, “‘Salem’s Lot”

2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

And for Nick saying to Nicole, "I bet you would put up Holly." For serious? Cliff actively telling the audience that he's working against the couples isn't enough, but Nick saying that Nicole would put up Holly is the straw that breaks the camel's back? For serious?

The interpretation vibe *I* got was it came off like Nick was suggesting to Nicole she should put Holly OTB, given the opportunity.

1 hour ago, zorak said:

Christie just thanked BB for wanting her to hear the juice this morning by not calling her to the DR.  Then Jack sang, "The best part of waking up is hearing Cliff talk shit."

This is why IMHO Christie’s “revelation” is little more than a tempest in a teapot - nobody currently sees Cliff as a serious strategic threat.  Given that 1/3 of his “alliance” technically isn’t even in the game at present, Cliff’s “Ima gonna target the couples” remarks currently don’t amount to much more than idle wishing.

1 hour ago, missyb said:

An all female ghosted alliance could be in the making ! They can call themselves Ghost Busters.

Yeah, I agree; that would probably air better in prime time than “Former Fucks”.

Edited July 9, 2019 by Nashville
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[Brian Cronin]

Just now, Nashville said:

The interpretation vibe *I* got was it came off like Nick was suggesting to Nicole she should put Holly OTB, given the opportunity.

Yeah, you're probably right. That makes a lot more sense.

[IndyMischa]

43 minutes ago, zorak said:

Jackson is telling Jack that he thinks it would be best for Jack to cut things off in public with Analyse (except for when it's the 6 of them hanging out).  He says they can still keep up the stuff that goes on after dark because nobody knows about that.  Jack said he's inclined to go about it the other way where they are still friendly in public but that they are no longer sleeping together.  Jackson made some comment about how that wasn't a good idea because it would be like not having your cake and not eating it, too.  He's such a sleaze.  He told Jack it wouldn't be a good idea to just cut Analyse off completely because she would withdraw and be emotional and stuff along those lines.

Good. LORD. Has Jackson ever dated (/anything'd) a woman for more than a week? What a recipe for disaster - thankfully, Jack seems not to be a TOTAL moron on this topic. Yeesh.

[slasherboy]

On 7/8/2019 at 1:12 PM, Alice Mudgarden said:

The story you are about to hear is true. The names have not been changed to shame the guilty.

Raven was a hamster from S19 (aka "The One Where Paul Loses Again While Wearing The Same Shirt") who supposedly had every ailment under the sun and would not shut up about it. I can only assume she wanted the rest of the house to suffer like she claimed she does, as she would prepare some of the most disgusting "meals" on the face of the earth for the house, including what was basically raw chicken.

Her and Cereal's Greatest Nemesis, Matt, hooked up on a regular basis, keeping used condoms in a drawer like a serial killer keeps trophies of victims and letting spunk towels be the main tool for cleaning the kitchen.

Also: "WOOF WOOF MOTHERFUCKING WOOF".

Ah yes, I remember now!  I don't remember the raw chicken, but I remember her many strange ailments (her mother had them too, right?) and the saved used condoms.  But my favorite part about this story was the sight of Paul losing a SECOND TIME!!  That was pure gold and I kept re-playing it over and over.

Alice Mudgarden, you are an exceptional story teller!  The term "spunk towels" made me smile and I'm sure I'll smile well into the night just thinking of that kitchen.

Now, can you fill me in about Ovi never washing HIS hands?

[zorak]

46 minutes ago, Nashville said:

So Jack and Sis met up in the shower

But Jack soon caught a whiff somewhat sour.

”Should I find myself worried about this?”, Jack said.

But Sis looked so hot, and her folks’ dreams are now dead.

So parents’ illusions are shattered, ‘tis true 

When some dipshit’s Thing One finds their baby’s Thing Two.

But it makes it all so much the worse, you must see

Is when all of this happens on network TV.

This is hilarious.  We need a series of books written in this style for the history of every season of Big Brother.  Instead of A Song of Fire and Ice it could be called A song of Ire (ours) and (Anal) Lice.

[zorak]

Kemi is basically telling Nicole that if she (Kemi) can't win this game she's not going to let someone completely destroy her game by not fighting back.  I hope this leads to some drama blowing up in this house today.

Edited July 9, 2019 by zorak

[Brian Cronin]

2 minutes ago, zorak said:

Kemi is basically telling Nicole that if she (Kemi can't win this game) she's not going to let someone completely destroy her game by not fighting back.  I hope this leads to some drama blowing up in this house today.

What does that even mean?

[zorak]

Kemi is telling Nicole that even though Nick and Bella are a showmance, there's still something weird between Nick and Analyce.  

[zorak]

Kemi said that Bella is probably working on Jack to make sure that Kemi goes this week.  Nicole responded in a completely sarcastic way and replied, "But I thought she was your best friend."

[zorak]

Kemi:  "Will I get in trouble if I hide Nick's socks?"  Shades of the "who hid Alex's cat ears" drama.  I doubt Nick will get all worked up about his missing socks though.

[Brian Cronin]

His...socks? For serious? 

Bella is such a mess. She was seriously all about defending Kemi and now they're total enemies. What a trainwreck. 

[missyb]

8 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

His...socks? For serious? 

Bella is such a mess. She was seriously all about defending Kemi and now they're total enemies. What a trainwreck. 

Bella's way of defending Kemi was only defensive in Bella's mind ! She knew she was sinking Kemi's ship when she ran to jackson 10 minutes after Kemi told her about their conversation. There was just no reason for it.

[Brian Cronin]

9 minutes ago, missyb said:

Bella's way of defending Kemi was only defensive in Bella's mind ! She knew she was sinking Kemi's ship when she ran to jackson 10 minutes after Kemi told her about their conversation. There was just no reason for it.

Yeah, she turned on Kemi so quickly. What's funny is that she helped keep Kemi in the house in Week 2 and then turned on her in Week 3! Total trainwreck. 

[zorak]

Cliff is waiting to play a prank on someone.  I guess he made a "mouse" out of dryer lint and he's got it hidden in a crevice but I guess visible enough that it might look like a mouse.  He's got fishing line attached to it or something and he's planning on pranking someone by pulling it out to scare them.  Speaking of pests, have the ants stayed away this summer?  I haven't heard any talk of them overtaking the house yet.

Edited July 9, 2019 by zorak

[Lady Calypso]

2 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Yeah, she turned on Kemi so quickly. What's funny is that she helped keep Kemi in the house in Week 2 and then turned on her in Week 3! Total trainwreck. 

Don't forget that Bella turned on Kemi before this as well. I mean, girl ain't loyal to Kemi at all. Bella initially was trying to get Kemi out last week before she changed her mind....but technically, it was Nick, Nicole, and Sam who got Christie to not backdoor Kemi. Bella didn't really have anything to do with it.

[zorak]

Holly is talking to Jackson.  She says that Jack and Christie have big mouths.  Now Jackson's telling her how he told Jack it wasn't a good idea to cut Analyse loose.

[Alice Mudgarden]

1 hour ago, slasherboy said:

But my favorite part about this story was the sight of Paul losing a SECOND TIME!!

Ah yes, the moment that brings us all together. Young, old, male, female, gay, straight... we all unite with a hatred of Paul.

(Also, thank you for the kind words!)

[zorak]

Holly is ranting to Jackson about how Christie is always trying to study with the whole house and not just their alliance.  Jackson says Christie and Jack are the same person.  He says they're both over confident.

[Alice Mudgarden]

52 minutes ago, zorak said:

Kemi:  "Will I get in trouble if I hide Nick's socks?"  Shades of the "who hid Alex's cat ears" drama.  I doubt Nick will get all worked up about his missing socks though.

Does Nick have a thing about his feet or something? Like, he has hobbit feet he doesn't want seen?

I hope this is Cat Ears 2.0.

[zorak]

3 minutes ago, Alice Mudgarden said:

Ah yes, the moment that brings us all together. Young, old, male, female, gay, straight... we all unite with a hatred of Paul.

(Also, thank you for the kind words!)

Such a great moment.  I still have a screen shot saved on my computer.

Holly:  "I need to start branching out."  Maybe if she had branched out from the beginning, it wouldn't come across as fake if she goes this route.

Edited July 9, 2019 by zorak