All Past Seasons of the Late Lamented Show

[ByTor]

3 hours ago, An Offt said:

Being put on weight warning for looking like any of those young women is pretty much asking them to engage in ED's, and all of Chelsea's snotty little comments were dead on.  She was just stupid for voicing them, but she wasn't wrong.

I 100% agree with the bolded part.  She was soooo fat that they had to use last year's cameo?  Seriously?  She was teeny tiny & I guarantee she looked even smaller in person.  I recently saw an episode during which they were doing the body fat thing and one TCC was a little over 28%.  The woman there (I think she was a doctor?) told her she's a tad over normal but healthwise that is nothing to worry about, and Jay had to chime in with "But that's a tiny uniform they have to fit in, we need to lose that!!!"  She looked perfectly fine in the practice shorts & would have been fine in the "iconic" shorts.

ANYWAY...I don't disagree with the message, and it wasn't even necessarily a stupid thing to say it's "not maintainable," it was just the forum she said it in.  That was something that she should have discussed privately with Kelli, but I think she was more interested in snotting off trying to make her friends feel better.

[ByTor]

26 minutes ago, kalibean said:

I don't think following a paleo style diet and minimizing my booze intake is that freaking awful.  Starving oneself?  No.  But following a 1500-1800 calorie a day diet full of protein, healthy fats, fruits and veggies is an achievable goal for most of us IF WE WANT IT. 

This!  I watched a YouTube thing with a ballet dancer who needed to lose a couple pounds.  Of course she burned calories from dancing and extra workouts, (she liked to hike), diet-wise she was able to get her ballerina body eating 2,000 calories a day, but she was super careful with everything she ate and did not drink alcohol with the exception of maybe a glass of wine a week.  You could eat a lot more with low calorie options (lean meat, fish, lots of vegetables) and you will NOT be starving.

[kalibean]

The first time I did Whole 30, I lost a bit of weight but insane inches...it's amazing how bloating some foods can be.  For me, grains and dairy are big old belly puffers.  Beer?  Can't do it.  So instead of having some insane nutritionist telling them they're getting cellulite from diet soda, they should have a registered dietitian walk them through elimination diets to see if they can pinpoint trigger foods.  Talk about what a plate full of 500 calories of veggies/fruit/lean protein looks like vs. 500 calories of a big glass of wine and a protein bar, etc.

These gals don't make pro athlete money, of course, but it's not uncommon for pro athletes to eat one way during the season and a wholly different way off season.  Not all of them, of course, but sometimes you need to be at peak form and sometimes you can go on a weekend brewery tour.

[dariafan]

Season 9 on now.   Again those twins are annoying.   Think very highly of themselves 

[ByTor]

8 hours ago, dariafan said:

Season 9 on now.   Again those twins are annoying.   Think very highly of themselves 

You should have seen them on The Bachelor/Bachelor in Paradise 🙄

[ElenaFR]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

You should have seen them on The Bachelor/Bachelor in Paradise 🙄

They are reality show junkies. Looking for fame.

[dariafan]

4 hours ago, ByTor said:

You should have seen them on The Bachelor/Bachelor in Paradise 🙄

Oh my !

[ATLGirl]

On 10/4/2019 at 11:35 PM, dariafan said:

Season 9 on now.   Again those twins are annoying.   Think very highly of themselves 

“Double trouble!” 😆😆

[lah715]

Season 2 on now ... the best season out of all of them (IMHO) and then season 7 is second LOL!!

[bjo1969]

14 minutes ago, lah715 said:

Season 2 on now ... the best season out of all of them (IMHO) and then season 7 is second LOL!!

Those are my 2 favorite seasons.

[ByTor]

I saw season 1 for the umpteenth time, but I just noticed something for the 1st time.  When they were having the pool party with the "ungrateful" Meghan, did anyone else get the feeling the girls were laughing at, not with, Yoshiko?  The giggling when she asked "what does that (yee haw!) mean?" was bad enough, but I felt a HUGE mean girl vibe when they pushed her on the inflatable pool thing and basically said "now go away" followed by 2 of them high-fiving each other & laughing.  

[ByTor]

Another Pluto comment, this time season 2  Disclaimer...I think Jay is full of crap to begin with.  They did the body fat scan thing, and he said the average body fat of a DCC is 12%, and Erica was told she needs to "get lean" at 16.9%, yet in another season Ashley Kelly was told she needs to gain weight at 15%.  Annoying.

[phylogeny]

19 minutes ago, ByTor said:

I saw season 1 for the umpteenth time, but I just noticed something for the 1st time.  When they were having the pool party with the "ungrateful" Meghan, did anyone else get the feeling the girls were laughing at, not with, Yoshiko?  The giggling when she asked "what does that (yee haw!) mean?" was bad enough, but I felt a HUGE mean girl vibe when they pushed her on the inflatable pool thing and basically said "now go away" followed by 2 of them high-fiving each other & laughing.  

Yesss. Fake syrupy sweetness but dripping with snark. That whole pool party bit annoys me. Meghan probably just didn't want to get her curls wet and the other girls are acting like a mom with a toddler like, "You wanna get in the nice little pool, sweetie?"

[ByTor]

3 minutes ago, phylogeny said:

Meghan probably just didn't want to get her curls wet and the other girls are acting like a mom with a toddler like, "You wanna get in the nice little pool, sweetie?"

Oh yeah, the "Meghan, you wanna go in the pool?" sounded SO fake!  Maybe she saw what mean little middle-schoolers they were being and she didn't want to be involved in that.  And I don't think she'd dare squeal to Kelli & Judy, they probably would accuse her of making excuses.

[Jazzhands]

28 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Another Pluto comment, this time season 2  Disclaimer...I think Jay is full of crap to begin with.  They did the body fat scan thing, and he said the average body fat of a DCC is 12%, and Erica was told she needs to "get lean" at 16.9%, yet in another season Ashley Kelly was told she needs to gain weight at 15%.  Annoying.

That 12 percent “average” Jay was always spewing seemed like garbage to me.  According to medical guidelines, the level of “essential fat” for a woman is around 13 percent for the body to function normally.  Most of the DCC look like they’d be around the 15-17 percent range, which is thin but healthy and pretty typical for conditioned athletes (bodybuilders and distance runners tend to be lower).  So, no, I’m not buying that the average DCC is 12. 

[ByTor]

Great post @Jazzhands!  Ashley Kelly at 15% looked like she was too tiny to have room for internal organs, no way in hell is the "average" (obviously meaning some even lower) 12%.

[dariafan]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

Another Pluto comment, this time season 2  Disclaimer...I think Jay is full of crap to begin with.  They did the body fat scan thing, and he said the average body fat of a DCC is 12%, and Erica was told she needs to "get lean" at 16.9%, yet in another season Ashley Kelly was told she needs to gain weight at 15%.  Annoying.

Well the doctor told her to gain weight.  Jay had to jump in with a we can’t have that (paraphrased—- I don’t have it committed to memory!  I don’t !  )

[ByTor]

3 minutes ago, dariafan said:

Well the doctor told her to gain weight.  Jay had to jump in with a we can’t have that (paraphrased—- I don’t have it committed to memory!  I don’t !  )

Yep, he said that about the one who was like 28%.  He's ridiculous.

[Pj3422]

Does anybody conflate that Pluto Dramas for Her commercial with Debbie Allen’s speech in “Fame”? I keep expecting Kathy Bates to say, “You want a different family, a different life? Well fame costs. And right here is where you start paying — in sweat!”

[ATLGirl]

3 minutes ago, Pj3422 said:

Does anybody conflate that Pluto Dramas for Her commercial with Debbie Allen’s speech in “Fame”? I keep expecting Kathy Bates to say, “You want a different family, a different life? Well fame costs. And right here is where you start paying — in sweat!”

It does sound very similar! Both inspire me to then get on a horse with some cute dude and ride away...🤣

[Jazzhands]

57 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Great post @Jazzhands!  Ashley Kelly at 15% looked like she was too tiny to have room for internal organs, no way in hell is the "average" (obviously meaning some even lower) 12%.

Thanks, ByTor!  It was only through discovering the reruns on Pluto TV that I remembered how much I couldn’t stand Jay.  A lot of the garbage he spewed was not only inaccurate (i.e., soda causes cellulite) but potentially dangerous like that body-fat percentage nonsense.  The military fitness tests were absurd, too — you get more benefit from doing ten pushups with proper form than 60 lousy ones, but he was only concerned with putting up the best numbers.  I’ve always thought that all of that stuff was made up for the show rather than any true benefit for the DCC/TCC. If you want them to learn healthy eating habits, bring in a nutritionist, not this clown or paid product placement (looking at you, My Fit Foods). 

TPTB should be looking at the women in terms of actual fitness (do they have the strength, flexibility, and stamina to do the job?) and appearance (do they look good in the uniform?), not irrelevant numbers.  I’m sure that I’ve got a lower body fat percentage than Brittney Schram did while she was a DCC for example, but no one alive would think I’d look better in that uniform than she did! 

Sorry for the long rant, but as a former dancer who lost a friend to a heart attack when we were 19 due to the damage she had already done to her body from an eating disorder at that young age, I get really offended by Jay’s garbage and I’m glad he’s not featured any longer. 

[ByTor]

4 minutes ago, Jazzhands said:

The military fitness tests were absurd, too — you get more benefit from doing ten pushups with proper form than 60 lousy ones

And by the mid 200s everybody knew that doing those sit-ups are a back injury waiting to happen.

4 minutes ago, Jazzhands said:

Sorry for the long rant, but as a former dancer who lost a friend to a heart attack when we were 19 due to the damage she had already done to her body from an eating disorder at that young age, I get really offended by Jay’s garbage and I’m glad he’s not featured any longer. 

Oh wow, I'm so sorry to hear that, that should never happen 😞 

[woodscommaelle]

Season 4. Why did Ashley Kelly never make the team? Think she tried out a few times. (Haven’t seen all the earlier episodes.) 

[Tuxcat]

I was watching the semi -finals with Mia Greenhouse, Rachel Buckmaster ... One thing I noticed was there was a vet at the front - off to the side - doing the choreography along with the girls - as their guide. This was during the actual judging (she wasn't teaching).

I had not noticed that before. Does this still occur?

[scorpio1031]

15 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

I was watching the semi -finals with Mia Greenhouse, Rachel Buckmaster ... One thing I noticed was there was a vet at the front - off to the side - doing the choreography along with the girls - as their guide. This was during the actual judging (she wasn't teaching).

I had not noticed that before. Does this still occur?

I think it was Jennifer Colvin this year since it was her choreo.  I know I saw a pic but who knows where:)

[Tuxcat]

10 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

I think it was Jennifer Colvin this year since it was her choreo.  I know I saw a pic but who knows where:)

 Thanks. I knew they taught the girls - but I never noticed that they help them by leading them during the actual judging. Makes sense that they do. Just never noticed it. This particular year all the girls were looking off to the side to follow the vet. 

[ATLGirl]

I somehow ended up on Taylor BreAnn Lowery's Instagram and have to ask a question. Do a person's pupils naturally look that small? Or is it contact lenses? What happened to her eyes???

Or is this a new thing that I, as an old bat, have never heard of?

[dariafan]

I want to go tryout just to hug Phil 

[dariafan]

If veterans want to get their hair cut, like Sarah Gourley did, do they need to get permission first ?

[Anduril]

10 hours ago, ATLGirl said:

I somehow ended up on Taylor BreAnn Lowery's Instagram and have to ask a question. Do a person's pupils naturally look that small? Or is it contact lenses? What happened to her eyes???

Or is this a new thing that I, as an old bat, have never heard of?

Could be prescription medication usage.

[dariafan]

Taylor and that grocery store activity... for loaded the cart.  Did she think they were going to leave with what they put in there ?  Some times she seemed mature and sometimes she was down right dumb 

[ByTor]

54 minutes ago, dariafan said:

Taylor and that grocery store activity... for loaded the cart.  Did she think they were going to leave with what they put in there ?  Some times she seemed mature and sometimes she was down right dumb 

Taylor seemed like a pain in the butt with no filter, but I have to defend her on this.  Jay specifically said to put in their carts the things they actually buy, not the things they think they are supposed to buy.  

[dariafan]

Just now, ByTor said:

Taylor seemed like a pain in the butt with no filter, but I have to defend her on this.  Jay specifically said to put in their carts the things they actually buy, not the things they think they are supposed to buy.  

That’s true, she just seemed to Go overboard.   Maybe they took her common sense when they removed those extensions?

[ByTor]

5 minutes ago, dariafan said:

That’s true, she just seemed to Go overboard.   Maybe they took her common sense when they removed those extensions?

LOL!  I think she was one of those who loves to brag about how poorly they can eat and still be rail thin.

[dariafan]

16 minutes ago, ByTor said:

LOL!  I think she was one of those who loves to brag about how poorly they can eat and still be rail thin.

Middle age is gonna hit her like a train 

[lah715]

Watching season 7 first meeting and noticed how much of a New Yorker Danielle is and dressed so different compared to the other ladies LOL!  I am originally from NY so its not an insult just a funny observation. Makes me think of Melanie Griffith's and Joan Cusack's character in Working Girl

[dariafan]

Season 7 had quite a few people I don’t understand how they made it 

[ByTor]

34 minutes ago, dariafan said:

Season 7 had quite a few people I don’t understand how they made it 

Kim, Chelsea, Jasmine...I don't get any of them.

[scorpio1031]

Lot of twerkin' going on in Season 8 prelims🤣

[woodscommaelle]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

Kim, Chelsea, Jasmine...I don't get any of them.

Pretty Kim who had a twin? Was she not good? I loved her. 

[JarlenaFan2024]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

Kim, Chelsea, Jasmine...I don't get any of them.

Are you talking about the Asian/Hispanic looking Kim?  Wasn't she a physical therapist/PT Assistant?

[scorpio1031]

47 minutes ago, woodscommaelle said:

Pretty Kim who had a twin? Was she not good? I loved her. 

I think she is like a lot of girls we've seen over the years who get stuck in their head, lose their confidence, etc, but once they make the squad, they perform so much better.

[Pau84]

9 hours ago, BluegrassDCCFan said:

Are you talking about the Asian/Hispanic looking Kim?  Wasn't she a physical therapist/PT Assistant?

Kim Tong, who has a twin, half Chinese, half Israeli. 

Wondeful person, wonderful team mate. I loved her. 

#TeamKim

[Pj3422]

One question I wish the judges had asked the Minchew sisters: “Why this year? Why can’t you fulfill your pageant duties and audition next year? Seems like you’re creating a conflict that doesn’t need to exist.”

[Kayce]

On 10/4/2019 at 11:35 PM, dariafan said:

Season 9 on now.   Again those twins are annoying.   Think very highly of themselves 

Who doesn't want "pretty twins" .....double trouble  .....barf!!!!

[ByTor]

3 hours ago, Pau84 said:

Kim Tong, who has a twin, half Chinese, half Israeli. 

Yep, that's who I meant.  She was called out a lot for mistakes, and the next year she was called out for weight and not dancing like a veteran.  She was certainly better than Morgan, but I don't think she should have made it.

[lah715]

Watching Season 10 during uniform fittings and Shelby tells Kelli she quit her job to concentrate on making the team and she had savings to live off of.  My question if the girl was not working and had all day to practice how is it she could not do the dances correctly .. she must have had really bad memory .... yikes

[ByTor]

12 minutes ago, lah715 said:

Watching Season 10 during uniform fittings and Shelby tells Kelli she quit her job to concentrate on making the team and she had savings to live off of.  My question if the girl was not working and had all day to practice how is it she could not do the dances correctly .. she must have had really bad memory .... yikes

I think she did have a very bad memory.  She said in that little segment about her that she did HS cheer and basically did one routine the whole year, and is having a tough time with remembering all the different choreography.

[dariafan]

I dislike how every year someone is in training camp that needed to go week 2.  And they get called in the office and say if I can just have a little more time I can show Kelli and Judy I can do it.    But they never manage.  They just continue to look like startled poodles. 

[Jennv]

Which season were the Minchew sisters on camp? I hated them!