The Marvel Cinematic Universe: The Avengers, etc.

[aghst]

Watched The Avengers again just the other night.  I'd originally seen it on a flight.

Dialog is pretty good.  The back and forth between the Avengers and with Fury, talking about developing WMDs with the Tesseract and such.

Had to look up the director and not surprised it was Wheadon who came up with the story and is credited with the screenplay.

I wonder how much input a direct/writer with his kind of stature has in the visual effects.

Some of it is pretty striking, the wide and close up shots of the breach as Ironman and the aliens fight in the initial wave.

 

 

[arc]

This clip is Hugh Jackman talking about early days auditioning for X-Men 1, but it’s also about how much Feige loves the comics and always has:

 

[tv echo]

Link to listen to THR's Awards Chatter podcast with RDJ is in article...

Awards Chatter’ Pod: Robert Downey Jr. on Emmy-Nominated ‘The Sympathizer’ Performance(s), Dr. Doom and Upcoming Broadway Debut
BY SCOTT FEINBERG   AUGUST 20, 2024
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/robert-downey-jr-dr-doom-the-sympathizer-broadway-debut-1235979275/ 

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Now just a few months shy of his 60th birthday, he is currently in New York preparing to make his Broadway debut at Lincoln Center in McNeal, a play about an A.I.-obsessed novelist, which will begin previews on Sept. 5 and open on Sept. 30. He took some time away from that to reflect on his life and career — and to expand, for the first time since his surprise appearance at last month’s San Diego Comic-Con, about the exciting news that he is returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, not as Iron Man, but as the villainous Dr. Victor von Doom, in 2026’s Avengers: Doomsday and 2027’s Avengers: Secret Wars.
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Today, one finds Downey physically and mentally healthy, happily married, respected and celebrated by his peers, and as busy as ever — with not only McNeal rehearsals and his upcoming reunion with Marvel on the horizon, but also a big-screen remake of the 1958 Alfred Hitchcock classic Vertigo which he will produce and star in; Happy Coffee, a coffee brand that he started to raise money for the National Alliance on Mental Illness; and much more. It’s all enough to keep, well, five people busy!

Marvel Studios’ Infinity Saga Concert Experience | Global Premiere
Marvel Entertainment   Aug 19, 2024

Edited August 21 by tv echo

[tv echo]

From Aug. 17...

HIMYM / MARVEL COBIE SMULDERS Panel – Terrificon 2024
Fandom Spotlite   posted Aug 27, 2024

 

[MadyGirl1987]

Marvel released video celebrating 85 years

And in true Marvel they end it with a big tease of 

Spoiler

Ross turning into Red Hulk!

 

Edited August 29 by MadyGirl1987

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Full video of Marvel's Infinity Saga Concert at the Hollywood Bowl on Aug. 30...

Marvel Studios’ Infinity Saga Concert Experience | Global Premiere at the Hollywood Bowl
Masisohanify   posted Sep 1, 2024

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00:00 Kevin Feige Intro
3:13 Marvel Logo
3:50 'There Was an Idea'
5:27 Iron Man
10:09 Captain America
12:01 Thor
13:04 Avengers
16:52 Doctor Strange
17:53 Ant-Man
18:21 Spider-Man
22:18 Black Panther
27:38 Guardians of the Galaxy
31:04 Avengers: Infinity War
35:08 Black Widow
37:39 Avengers: Endgame
51:37 Credits
53:39 Michael Giacchino introduces Fantastic Four
54:56 Fantastic Four

 

Or, if you just want to watch a few selected video clips from Marvel's Infinity Saga Concert...

Marvel's Infinity Saga Concert at Hollywood Bowl (Friday 8/30/2024) - Edinburgh Fight
Steven Suwatanapongched   posted Sep 1, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDMGThDTL4

Marvel's Infinity Saga Concert at Hollywood Bowl (Friday 8/30/2024) - End Game Fight
Steven Suwatanapongched   posted Sep 1, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdNk7TiY9UA

Marvel's Infinity Saga Concert at Hollywood Bowl (Friday 8/30/2024) - End Credits and Fireworks
Steven Suwatanapongched   posted Sep 1, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucIMwSiJEEw

Edited September 2 by tv echo

[Spartan Girl]

Found this:

Multiverse of Madness early draft leaks had Wanda as a hero, not a villain

Welp, now I’m pissed. They really decided to just make her a villain and give one of her best comic book storylines to Agatha fucking Harkness?! Fuck you Waldron, fuck you Raimi, and fuck you K.E.V.I.N.

[arc]

Yeah, that Beau DeMayo stuff was reported elsewhere, but it’s downright bizarre Guardians of the Fandom called him “Bo Deo”.

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Sebastian Stan Says Bashing Marvel Movies Is ‘Really Convenient,’ but ‘I Get Protective’ Because Their ‘Intention Is Really F—ing Good’
By Daniel D'Addario   Sep 19, 2024
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/sebastian-stan-defends-marvel-movies-1236148847/ 

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In an interview for this week’s Variety cover story, Stan remarks that while some movie fans have been critical of the quality of recent entries in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and of the franchise’s seismic effect on movie culture, he sees them as crucial to the entertainment industry as a whole.

“It’s become really convenient to pick on [Marvel films],” Stan says. “And that’s fine. Everyone’s got an opinion. But they’re a big part of what contributes to this business and allows us to have smaller movies as well. This is an artery traveling through the system of this entire machinery that’s Hollywood. It feeds in so many more ways than people acknowledge.” He adds, “Sometimes I get protective of it because the intention is really fucking good. It’s just fucking hard to make a good movie over and over again.”

“I’m someone who has witnessed [Marvel Studios president] Kevin Feige as the most selfless man on this planet,” Stan goes on, “who, despite the enormous success he’s had, has never changed or wavered. They legitimately spend so much time thinking, how could we surprise people and give people something different? His big motto is ‘The best idea wins.’ It just comes from a good place — and that’s the only reason why sometimes I get protective of it. Because the intention is really good.”

Ahead of the May 2025 release of “Thunderbolts,” Stan is excited, comparing the film’s idea to that of “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”: “a guy coming into this group that was chaotic and degenerate, and somehow finding a way to unite them,” he says. To Marvel’s critics, Stan says: “Keep an open heart. Don’t judge so quickly.”

Edited September 21 by tv echo

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NYCC 2024 Schedule: Marvel Panels, Booths, and Activations
by Marvel   September 18, 2024
https://www.marvel.com/articles/live-events/nycc-2024-schedule-panels-booths-and-activations 

[Affogato]

On 7/28/2024 at 6:33 PM, JustHereForFood said:

It's not like they ever bother casting Romani characters with actors of the same ethnicity. And there is no outcry like when a white character is cast with non-white actor, so they probably feel no pressure.

There was with Dick Grayson. Object. 
 

i think the Rom connection is even more tenuous with doom. 
 

 

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Ahead of the May 2025 release of “Thunderbolts,” Stan is excited, comparing the film’s idea to that of “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”: “a guy coming into this group that was chaotic and degenerate, and somehow finding a way to unite them,” he says. To Marvel’s critics, Stan says: “Keep an open heart. Don’t judge so quickly.”

So he's going to show them how to do a full-body scowl?

[Kel Varnsen]

On 9/20/2024 at 9:18 AM, Spartan Girl said:

Found this:

Multiverse of Madness early draft leaks had Wanda as a hero, not a villain

Welp, now I’m pissed. They really decided to just make her a villain and give one of her best comic book storylines to Agatha fucking Harkness?! Fuck you Waldron, fuck you Raimi, and fuck you K.E.V.I.N.

I don't know, so much of Wanda's story was about her various traumas and the bad things she did (mostly because of those traumas). I feel like you would practically need another whole season of Wandavision for her to work through and get past all that to the point where she can be an actual hero. I mean I am no expert in mental health but I don't think you can just get over all of that by being alone in a cabin in the woods (even without taking into account the evil book). So in that sense I think becoming more evil makes more sense.

[baldryanr]

Plus she was going to kill Wong.  Wong!   What did he do to deserve the collateral damage fate that befell Thor's buddies?

While there's a better way to do it, Wanda taking the Darkhold should have corrupted her to an extent.  Her chugging along as if she never took it wouldn't have made sense.

[Raja]

15 minutes ago, baldryanr said:

Plus she was going to kill Wong.  Wong!   What did he do to deserve the collateral damage fate that befell Thor's buddies?

While there's a better way to do it, Wanda taking the Darkhold should have corrupted her to an extent.  Her chugging along as if she never took it wouldn't have made sense.

I don't think WandaVision made its case of what reading the Darkhold would do. So fans expected their hero to be able to defeat it, just as other heroes in the end find a way to be victorious.

So they saw a hero coming out of her show going into the Dr. Strange movie.

Meanwhile others saw a heel turn at the end of her show. With the general MCU didn't do villains well prejudice we now had a Darkhold powered one.

[Kel Varnsen]

2 hours ago, Raja said:

I don't think WandaVision made its case of what reading the Darkhold would do. So fans expected their hero to be able to defeat it, just as other heroes in the end find a way to be victorious.

So they saw a hero coming out of her show going into the Dr. Strange movie.

Meanwhile others saw a heel turn at the end of her show. With the general MCU didn't do villains well prejudice we now had a Darkhold powered one.

Yea the end of Wandavision wasn't really her seeing what she did wrong and trying to be good. I had to read a summary of the finale to remember but she stopped Agatha from taking her powers and then removed the barrier around Westview only after Agatha had lifted the sitcom spell from the townspeople. And then after that it was more trauma as she lost her recreated Vision and her fake kids and then had to confront what she did to the town. Dealing with that by isolating yourself in a cabin and being alone with your thoughts doesn't seem like a good way to process it and move past it. It seems more like a way to think about how great your fake life was and how you really want those kids back.

[Morrigan2575]

13 hours ago, Raja said:

So they saw a hero coming out of her show going into the Dr. Strange movie.

That right there is a problem for me, I remember watching Wandavision going, Wanda is THE villain of the show, and people kept making excuses for her. Wanda mind-raped an entire town, she put children in freaking in comas.

Yes, it was a result of her trauma and yes, it was a semi-unconscience action. However,  her immediate reaction when people broke free of her mind control (which didn't just turn them into characters in her TV Show, she was making them feel all of HER (mental/emotional) pain. Her first reaction was to just put everyone under the Hex again.

Yes, in the end she realized she was wrong and, gave up the fake reality but, that bullshit line from Monica (these people will never know what you sacrificed for them) infuriated me. What about what she TOOK from those poor innocent people? What about what THEY suffered and will continue to suffer?! 

I was glad MoM made her the villain because that's what she was.  Was she unredeemable? No, even MoM redeemed her in a way but, she shouldn't have come out of Wandavision as a Hero, IMO. 

Edited September 25 by Morrigan2575

[Raja]

24 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Yes, in the end she realized she was wrong and, gave up the fake reality but, that bullshit line from Monica (these people will never know what you sacrificed for them) infuriated me. What about what she TOOK from those poor innocent people? What about what THEY suffered and will continue to suffer?! Oh, no poor little Wanda!

I was okay with the line. As a S.W.O.R.D agent while the community might want justice, it could only be achieved if Wanda allowed herself to submit to it. To trade franchises when Superman shows up handcuffed but then snapping them to remind them of what they were trying to deal with.  

At best you either let Wanda live humor her and hope she doesn't revert or you bring in the Hulk to smash her like a puny god before she knew what hit her and could react.

[Morrigan2575]

7 hours ago, Raja said:

I was okay with the line. As a S.W.O.R.D agent while the community might want justice, it could only be achieved if Wanda allowed herself to submit to it. To trade franchises when Superman shows up handcuffed but then snapping them to remind them of what they were trying to deal with.  

At best you either let Wanda live humor her and hope she doesn't revert or you bring in the Hulk to smash her like a puny god before she knew what hit her and could react.

There was a spoiler that Wandavision would tie into MoM and, I think i got it into my head that Strange would take Wanda into "custody" of sorts and she'd have a magical time-out in Kamar-Taj, learning to heal but, also under house arrest.  At least until she was needed to dave the world again.

[Spartan Girl]

7 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

There was a spoiler that Wandavision would tie into MoM and, I think i got it into my head that Strange would take Wanda into "custody" of sorts and she'd have a magical time-out in Kamar-Taj, learning to heal but, also under house arrest.  At least until she was needed to dave the world again.

That would have been better writing and made more sense. It still boggles the mind that Strange and Wong knew about what happened in West View and didn’t think (or didn’t care) that Wanda probably still needed help. But no. They left her alone, just like all her other so-called friends and teammates, until Strange wanted her help.

[Kel Varnsen]

56 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said:

That would have been better writing and made more sense. It still boggles the mind that Strange and Wong knew about what happened in West View and didn’t think (or didn’t care) that Wanda probably still needed help. But no. They left her alone, just like all her other so-called friends and teammates, until Strange wanted her help.

No one ever talks to anyone unless they need help. None of the Avengers came to T'Challa's funeral, the rest of them just let Clint go on a murder spree and No Way Home would have been over in about 5 minutes if Pepper had made a statement that Mysterio was full of shit and then called MIT to recommend Peter get in.

[baldryanr]

While there were a few exceptions, the Avengers who didn't have a preexisting relationship were work friends only, especially after Civil War.  They all had their own lives and certainly would have helped if asked, but weren't going to go out of their way to check on each other.

The only Avenger aside from Vision who had a deeper relationship with Wanda was Clint.

Edited September 26 by baldryanr

[Anduin]

12 hours ago, Kel Varnsen said:

No one ever talks to anyone unless they need help. None of the Avengers came to T'Challa's funeral, the rest of them just let Clint go on a murder spree and No Way Home would have been over in about 5 minutes if Pepper had made a statement that Mysterio was full of shit and then called MIT to recommend Peter get in.

At least it's consistent with the comics. People never talk to each other, even when they're previous allies or longtime friends. Always assume the worst, so many fights based on miscommuncation. Punch first, ask questions later.

[Palimelon]

Personally, I'll take MCU Wanda any day over what John Byrne and Brian Michael Bendis did to her on their respective Avengers runs.

[mary2013]

On 9/25/2024 at 7:39 PM, Morrigan2575 said:

There was a spoiler that Wandavision would tie into MoM and, I think i got it into my head that Strange would take Wanda into "custody" of sorts and she'd have a magical time-out in Kamar-Taj, learning to heal but, also under house arrest.  At least until she was needed to dave the world again.

IIRC, there was a spoiler that Dr. Strange was supposed to show up in the post-credit scene in WandaVision, which would then lead into MoM.  But they couldn't film the scene because of the pandemic, so 🤷‍♀️

[ICantDoThatDave]

It wasn't that they couldn't shoot it, it was a Feige decision based on real world "optics".

“Some people might say, ‘Oh, it would’ve been so cool to see Dr. Strange,’” Feige said. “But it would have taken away from Wanda, which is what we didn’t want to do. We didn’t want the end of the show to be commoditized to go to the next movie — here’s the white guy, ‘Let me show you how power works.’”

[Tenshinhan]

5 hours ago, ICantDoThatDave said:

It wasn't that they couldn't shoot it, it was a Feige decision based on real world "optics".

“Some people might say, ‘Oh, it would’ve been so cool to see Dr. Strange,’” Feige said. “But it would have taken away from Wanda, which is what we didn’t want to do. We didn’t want the end of the show to be commoditized to go to the next movie — here’s the white guy, ‘Let me show you how power works.’”

Good on Feige for a little bit of responsible decision-making. 

[ICantDoThatDave]

I disagree.  Changing what makes the most sense in your fictional world (Dr. Strange investigates a huge magical disturbance caused by someone he knows) based on the real world generally results in bad writing.

Anytime "why didn't this very logical thing happen in your story?" is answered with "because of real world issue X", you've undermined your story.

[Palimelon]

Not quite MCU but still funny.

 

[Cobalt Stargazer]

 

On 9/25/2024 at 8:13 AM, Morrigan2575 said:

I was glad MoM made her the villain because that's what she was.  Was she unredeemable? No, even MoM redeemed her in a way but, she shouldn't have come out of Wandavision as a Hero, IMO. 

Except pretending that Agatha Harkness is a helpless victim is not the answer. Hypothetical: Agatha succeeds at stealing Wanda's abilities for herself, which is what she wanted to do. What happens to Westview then? Even putting aside that the kids weren't real and that Vision was somewhere in between, the other citizens of the town would have been in much greater danger from Agatha, who only got boxed in because Wanda outsmarted her. But sure, let's all join her fan club.

On 9/26/2024 at 3:18 AM, baldryanr said:

The only Avenger aside from Vision who had a deeper relationship with Wanda was Clint.

Sam was on the run with Wanda for at least part of the time between Civil War and Thanos finally making his move. I would like to think they bonded during that time, became friends, just because I don't think Sam's a jerk. That still leaves the issue of, If Wanda was so unstable/irrational that the first thing she does is take over a town in her immense grief, why was there no one to look in on her, just to make sure she's not doing that? I'm bothered by the notion that you have to live in someone's back pocket to be concerned if you know someone is very powerful (much more so than Clint) and that they've just been through this enormous trauma. Particularly Sam, who was dusted as well.

And really? I would find it much less grating if we hadn't we hadn't segued from WandaVision to Falcon and the Winter Soldier. As an estimate, how much time have we wasted on the fiction within the fiction that the only reason Bucky Barnes did things he wasn't supposed to was because he was brainwashed by Hydra? Civil War hinges not only on, "The Sokovia Accords are bad because Steve Rogers says so", but on, "Bucky wouldn't even jaywalk if it wasn't for being mind controlled because Steve Rogers says so." Except, well, yes he would, as evidenced by him helping known terrorist Helmut Zemo escape from prison, and yet Barnes is still wandering around loose. Within the story, you would think that he felt enough guilt over things not actually his fault, enough guilt that he would want to never do anything he wasn't supposed to again, but clearly not. I'm hardly suggesting a mountain should fall on him, because that would be unreasonable. What I would like is for the characters we're supposed to like and care about to stop falling all over themselves to take care of this clown, because he's the glaring exception to  "No one reaches out unless they need something."

I have nothing against Sebastian Stan as an actor. I think he's done the best he can with the teaspoon of characterization he's been allowed to have. But I don't believe it's about Who Did What either, at least not in the way it seems.

[Morrigan2575]

1 hour ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

Except pretending that Agatha Harkness is a helpless victim is not the answer. Hypothetical: Agatha succeeds at stealing Wanda's abilities for herself, which is what she wanted to do. What happens to Westview then? Even putting aside that the kids weren't real and that Vision was somewhere in between, the other citizens of the town would have been in much greater danger from Agatha, who only got boxed in because Wanda outsmarted her. But sure, let's all join her fan club.

I had to go back and read my post because I have no idea where this Agatha stuff was coming from. I never even mentioned Agatha.

My issue with Wanda and Wandavision is that they tried to make it out like Wanda was a hero after she terrorized innocent towns people for weeks. 

Hayward was a dick; Agatha was a manipulative witch; Wanda was a villain all of these things can be true.

Edited October 2 by Morrigan2575

[Tenshinhan]

2 hours ago, ICantDoThatDave said:

Changing what makes the most sense in your fictional world (Dr. Strange investigates a huge magical disturbance caused by someone he knows) based on the real world generally results in bad writing.

Anytime "why didn't this very logical thing happen in your story?" is answered with "because of real world issue X", you've undermined your story.

The MCU is a fictionalized version of the real world.  The two cannot be separated.  Many of the standards that apply in the real world will automatically apply to a fictionalized world. 

Aside from that, film and television are consumed by real world audiences, which means that the real world will naturally be impacted by the content of the story.  So filmmakers and storytellers consequently have a responsibility for what they put out into the world, in my view.

I can't say for sure whether or not Feige made the best possible decision in this case, but at least he had enough awareness to recognize the potential consequences of the situation and chose to act against it.  I think that's a positive for filmmaking/storytelling.

[ICantDoThatDave]

48 minutes ago, Tenshinhan said:

The MCU is a fictionalized version of the real world.  The two cannot be separated.

Of course they can. That's literally the whole point of fiction.

48 minutes ago, Tenshinhan said:

I can't say for sure whether or not Feige made the best possible decision in this case, but at least he had enough awareness to recognize the potential consequences of the situation and chose to act against it.  I think that's a positive for filmmaking/storytelling.

Very much disagree.  The more filmmakers allow the real world to constrict their story-telling, the more their story suffers, as we see here where the natural, expected "in world" story beat was simply not allowed to happen.

Also: "...chose to act against it"? Act against what precisely? What "potential consequences"?

[Tenshinhan]

1 hour ago, ICantDoThatDave said:

Of course they can. That's literally the whole point of fiction.

A fictionalized reality can never be entirely separated from reality, because it is born from reality.  The extent to which a fictional world can be separated from the real world varies depending upon just how fictitious the particular story is.

1 hour ago, ICantDoThatDave said:

The more filmmakers allow the real world to constrict their story-telling, the more their story suffers...

Applying real world standards to fiction does not always constrict or inhibit storytelling.  Often times it may broaden and elevate the material into something greater, or send the story into a different direction that would not have been realized otherwise.

1 hour ago, ICantDoThatDave said:

Also: "...chose to act against it"? Act against what precisely? What "potential consequences"?

Chose to act against having a white man come in and take the spotlight at the last moment and teach the woman a lesson.  And the potential consequences of reinforcing this type of racist/sexist psychology within both the fictional world of the MCU and within the real world.

Edited October 2 by Tenshinhan

[ICantDoThatDave]

Thank you. I honestly couldn't have illustrated my point better than you just did.

[Spartan Girl]

5 hours ago, Tenshinhan said:

Chose to act against having a white man come in and take the spotlight at the last moment and teach the woman a lesson.  And the potential consequences of reinforcing this type of racist/sexist psychology within both the fictional world of the MCU and within the real world.

But didn’t that happen anyway in MoM?

[Tenshinhan]

3 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

But didn’t that happen anyway in MoM?

That was in Strange's own movie instead of in Wanda's series, which I think was Feige's point.  It's at least *somewhat* of a better choice to make and still shows some awareness, despite how the story ultimately played out.

[Kel Varnsen]

19 hours ago, Tenshinhan said:

Good on Feige for a little bit of responsible decision-making. 

I think even ignoring the gender aspects of the story, having a character show up in the final episode and make a big difference in the story is kind of bad writing, and kind of steals the thunder from the actual main characters. It also makes you wonder why they didn't show up earlier. Having them show up after the credits would be even worse for that.

As for Strange he is kind of a self-involved dick. So, especially after he was no longer Sorcerer Supreme I can easily see him thinking that Westview was Wong's problem.

[Spartan Girl]

3 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

I think even ignoring the gender aspects of the story, having a character show up in the final episode and make a big difference in the story is kind of bad writing, and kind of steals the thunder from the actual main characters. It also makes you wonder why they didn't show up earlier. Having them show up after the credits would be even worse for that.

As for Strange he is kind of a self-involved dick. So, especially after he was no longer Sorcerer Supreme I can easily see him thinking that Westview was Wong's problem.

But it would have been better storytelling if the script had actually addressed that. If Strange and Wong realized, "wow, we should have been paying attention more" or had any of the surviving Avengers expressed guilt that they left their teammate(s) high and dry. Instead, they just shrugged it off with "Wanda is gone,the Darkhold has her now." Convenient to just blame her everything rather than take a long hard look at their own shortsightedness as a factor. Which didn't work, because people are still pointing that one, not just with Wanda, but all the other teammates they just shrugged off. They had already touched on Strange always having to be the one to hold the knife, addressing his failure to reach out to Wanda sooner would have been a natural progression of that.

Feige isn't that good of a storyteller, at least not in my opinion. And he certainly doesn't get brownie points for feminism for not having Strange upstage Wanda in her show after he threw out all her character progression. Don't even get me started on the fridged characters like Maria Hill...

[Kel Varnsen]

8 hours ago, Spartan Girl said:

But it would have been better storytelling if the script had actually addressed that. If Strange and Wong realized, "wow, we should have been paying attention more" or had any of the surviving Avengers expressed guilt that they left their teammate(s) high and dry

I feel like you have to just accept it otherwise every movie and show is going to be filled with pointless, clunky Poochie style dialogue where someone asks "where's ..." and they have to come up with dumb excuses as to why some other hero who could be of assistance isn't there. Iron Man 3 is basically the same thing. One of the main themes in that movie is that Tony has major PTSD from the events of Avengers. But until you see Bruce in the end credits, none of the other Avengers seem to have checked up on him, or help him out when he needs it.  

[Affogato]

On 9/26/2024 at 6:18 AM, baldryanr said:

While there were a few exceptions, the Avengers who didn't have a preexisting relationship were work friends only, especially after Civil War.  They all had their own lives and certainly would have helped if asked, but weren't going to go out of their way to check on each other.

The only Avenger aside from Vision who had a deeper relationship with Wanda was Clint.

Also Wanda is generally terrifying and scary. People wanted a powerful female lead, but she is really too dangerous to keep around. 

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This interview covered a wide range of topics/roles, including Winter Soldier, Thunderbolts, RDJ and Chris Evans, as well as SS screen testing for Star Trek and Green Lantern...

Sebastian Stan talks THE APPRENTICE, THUNDERBOLTS, GREEN LANTERN, STAR TREK I Happy Sad Confused
Josh Horowitz   Oct 17, 2024

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*  *  *
26:54 Star Trek
28:09 Green Lantern
29:34 Favorite Winter Soldier films
31:32 THUNDERBOLTS
33:45 Downey's return
36:08 Saoirse Ronan
36:51 Dream project with Chris Evans
39:32 steering his career
41:37 Mark Hamill

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‘Marvel Studios: The Art Of Ryan Meinerding’ Celebrates Core Creative Behind The MCU (Look Inside)
Josh Weiss   Oct 18, 2024
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshweiss/2024/10/18/marvel-studios-the-art-of-ryan-meinerding-celebrates-core-creative-behind-the-mcu-look-inside/ 

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Given that Meinerding’s Marvel roots run deep — all the way back to the first Iron Man, as a matter of fact — it only made sense that he’d become the subject of a visual biography chronicling his crucial role in the $30 billion (and counting!) enterprise. Now on sale from Abrams Books, Marvel Studios: The Art Of Ryan Meinerding hails from co-authors Paul Terry and Tara Bennett, who previously documented the MCU’s Infinity Saga in an impressive two-volume set entitled The Story of Marvel Studios.

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Marvel's Jaimie Alexander recounts the meeting with Kevin Feige that got her the role of Sif (and wow, was it awkward)
Grant DeArmitt  Oct 20, 2024
https://www.thepopverse.com/live-movies-thor-marvel-mcu-jaimie-alexander-sif-kevin-feige-new-york-comic-con-2024-nycc-2024 

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Some context here: Jaimie Alexander was a panelist at NYCC 2024's Happy Sad Confused panel, hosted by Josh Horowitz of the podcast by that name. During the course of the panel. frequent celeb interviewer Horowitz asked the panel what the weirdest thing they'd ever done to prepare for a role was. Jaimie Alexander volunteered to go first.

"The first Thor," she began, "I went to see Kevin Feige. And I happen to carry a knife."

When the audience began to laugh, Alexander got ahead of them.

"No," she said, "It gets worse." And she meant it.

"It was also my time of the month," Alexander said. "My purse fell off a chair, and there was a tampon. And a knife. Then, somehow, it came up that i had four brothers. So everybody was like, 'OK, you're Sif.'"

Marvel Studios told David Harbour his Red Guardian doesn't need to be buff
Grant DeArmitt  Oct 20, 2024
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"You know, you do a Marvel movie" he said of his experience in the role, "and the first thing everybody does on a Marvel set... there's a guy down in Atlanta who's the trainer for everybody Marvel. So everybody's like, [lowers voice],'Alright, we're gonna train.' Everyone starts training and lifting. You lift weights, right? But then [the filmmakers] are always like, 'except David.'"
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"You can lift weights," David said his superiors told him, "We're fine with that, but please don't lose that adorable dad belly."

Hold for applause.

Harbour continued, laughing, "I was like, 'Guys, you've given me all the tools to get in shape.' And now they're saying [lowers voice again] 'Don't use them.' It's kind of the dream, I don't know."

Edited October 20 by tv echo

[tv echo]

I believe this interview was recorded at NY Comic Con last weekend...

Russo Brothers Talk Avengers Doomsday, Secret Wars, the Filming Schedule, Scripts, and More
Collider Interviews  Oct 21, 2024

[BetterButter]

Marvel Studios’ ‘Blade’ Removed From 2025 Release Schedule, Disney Dates ‘Predator: Badlands’ Instead

[Anduin]

3 hours ago, BetterButter said:

Marvel Studios’ ‘Blade’ Removed From 2025 Release Schedule, Disney Dates ‘Predator: Badlands’ Instead

Blade is never coming out. But I'm looking forward to Badlands!

[tv echo]

Recorded at NYCC...

Sam Heughan, David Harbour, Jack Quaid, Jaimie Alexander, & Zoe Chao celebrate Happy Sad Confused!
Josh Horowitz   posted Oct 23, 2024

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00:06:18 David Harbour [includes short message from Sebastian Stan]
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00:32:04 10th Anniversary messages [includes some MCU actors]
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00:48:01 Actors They're Mistaken For [includes some MCU actors]
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01:05:58 Worst Note from a Director [includes some MCU actors]
01:10:23 Jaimie Alexander

Edited October 23 by tv echo