All In With Chris Hayes - General Discussion

[stormy]

About Kornacki. Even this morning on Morning Joe. He just is so over the top when he's talking election maps, numbers, results, whatever. It's like he's guzzled Red Bull 

On the other hand. When filling in for Chris Matthews, he's a breath of fresh air.

[freddi]

Huh, I mainly was put off by all the promotion (although I like Chris), so maybe I'll give it a try.  

Worn down by promos got you to listen?  I have a magic mop and ginzu knives that might interest you...

3 hours ago, attica said:

I've been worn down by the promos for the WITH podcast, and started listening to some of them. You guys, they're pretty honking good. Like I start one and think, ehhhh that's gonna be dry, and then it's super interesting and the guest is interesting and engaging, and Chris gets to swear, and I learn a thing or two. Imagine that!

[tessaray]

Just a reminder, comments about guests on shows other than All In are off-topic. 

[attica]

Whyyyy did Chris have to keep saying 'judenfrei' with a hard J sound? I mean, I don't expect him to bust out a German accent, but there's no reason not to pronounce it with the proper Y sound.

Also, I would really like it if All In played fewer clips of the orange menace.  I don't think they want me to be muting their program for a quarter of the show, as I did tonight.

[freddi]

44 minutes ago, attica said:

Whyyyy did Chris have to keep saying 'judenfrei' with a hard J sound? I mean, I don't expect him to bust out a German accent, but there's no reason not to pronounce it with the proper Y sound.

Wow, thanks.  Also, he was saying "Freitag" like it was a game of tag.  I was listening thinking, "okay, so Chris didn't study German at all, but seriously, is there no one on that production staff who even took a week of German language study?"  And even if you didn't ever study it, you should know that the "J" sound is a "Y" sound.  These are simple things to learn and say.

I did love the Ted Cruz segments -- it really is wonderful when someone you despise so much is being paired with someone you despise even more.  Makes Ted look less despicable, which is barely possible.

Another gripe was the interview with Rosie Gray from The Atlantic:  she could not have spoken in total more than two minutes spread across that segment, but said "you know" nine times.  Yes, I started counting after the third time in her first half-minute.  

[possibilities]

MSNBC still frequently has "experts" on their shows mispronouncing Rod Rosenstein's name, so clearly they don't care about accurate pronunciation. I really think it undermines their credibility and just plain makes them look lazy and sloppy.

I make my share of mistakes, but if I was going to be on TV I'd be damn sure I knew how to say the name of one of the key players in the story I was being asked to comment on.

[meowmommy]

On 8/31/2018 at 8:32 PM, possibilities said:

MSNBC still frequently has "experts" on their shows mispronouncing Rod Rosenstein's name, so clearly they don't care about accurate pronunciation.

I've seen some of their talking heads pronounce it two different ways within the very same discussion.  It is "RosenstEYEn" and not "RosenstEEn," right?  

On 8/31/2018 at 7:01 PM, freddi said:

Also, he was saying "Freitag" like it was a game of tag.

Maybe he watches Chopped and thinks it's the same as Amanda Freitag.  Which, having been an A student in high school German, I know it is not.  Vielen Dank.

On 8/31/2018 at 6:12 PM, attica said:

Also, I would really like it if All In played fewer clips of the orange menace.  I don't think they want me to be muting their program for a quarter of the show, as I did tonight.

You'd think Chris (and LOD) could learn from Rachel's example.  I watch his show with my finger on the FF and/or mute button just to be ready.

[izabella]

29 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

It is "RosenstEYEn"

Yes, Rosenstein, rhyming with Diane Feinstein.

[Tunia]

11 hours ago, meowmommy said:

I've seen some of their talking heads pronounce it two different ways within the very same discussion.  It is "RosenstEYEn" and not "RosenstEEn," right?  

Even Rod Rosenstein says "There's no right answer to that question." (But he uses "stEYEne".)

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/05/03/how-to-pronounce-rosenstein-moos-dnt-ebof.cnn

[attica]

8 hours ago, Tunia said:

Even Rod Rosenstein says "There's no right answer to that question."

Even as I appreciate his not (publicly) caring about variations in pronunciation, come on. We all learned how to pronounce 'schwarzenegger', we can all  manage 'RosenstINE'.

[meowmommy]

For the first 45 minutes, I was wondering why Chris bothered to go to Michigan, although getting Barbara McQuade on her home turf instead of in front of a green screen was certainly wonderful.  Had to laugh when Chris was near the bar, talking to people, and the three TVs in the background were showing MSNBC on two and Monday Night Football on the other.  Some producer must have freaked because all of a sudden the TV tuned to ESPN was turned off.  And the feed to MSNBC was live.  I guess I always assumed that these "live" shows ran on a seven second delay, but apparently I guessed wrong.

[attica]

Chris is good enough at wrangling real-person live interviews (as opposed to pols/experts/talking heads) that I guess the suits trust him with a non-delayed live show? That's a skill of his I admire most, it's so rare.

[stormy]

Tonight's episode with Michael Moore!

Excellent Chris.

[Your Grace]

Those non-voters continue to make me stabby.

[ZoqFotPik]

Yeah, I was one of those people throwing things at the tv that Chris mentioned. I had to pause that segment a few times because it was making me so angry. I'm very glad that girl in the blue shirt lost her election.

[possibilities]

Sam Bee created a trivia game app with cash prizes, to try to motivate people to vote. It seems to me that she's on the right track with that, because in general people are just too lazy and/or stupid to motivate themselves.

[Hanahope]

I was shocked over the number of people in Michigan that refused to vote for president.  How'd that work out for ya?  Water good?  Seriously, did they think that if they didn't vote the election would be a do over?  So sorry Hillary wasn't entertaining enough to "inspire" you.  

[meowmommy]

4 hours ago, Hanahope said:

I was shocked over the number of people in Michigan that refused to vote for president.  How'd that work out for ya?  Water good?  Seriously, did they think that if they didn't vote the election would be a do over?  So sorry Hillary wasn't entertaining enough to "inspire" you.  

And apparently still stubbornly sticking to the idea that they have to be "inspired" by a candidate.  That kid said he still didn't know if he would vote.  Dude, you deserve what you get, but it frosts my buttons that those choices drag everyone else down, too.  Some of us would be incredibly satisfied with quiet, nondramatic competence.

Chris does really well in these informal settings.  Maybe he should just do a road show.

[possibilities]

Honestly, I don't get the logic. They thought that if they didn't vote at all they would get their way and the winner would pay more attention to their concerns instead of less? It's like they think the winner will freak out over being given the silent treatment? 

It's not like a boycott, where withholding your business deprives it of your dollars. Dropping out of voting means you have LESS influence and are giving the choice over to others.

[kassygreene]

Anyone who has ever whined to me about not wanting to vote for candidate X, and why bother voting at all, I have said well, why don't you instead vote against candidate Y?  By not voting, those 90,000 mostly-Dems wound up "voting" for the Orange One.

When I was in college and voting for the first time (at the age of 20), it was a big deal and I very carefully did everything I had to do to vote absentee.  My vote mattered, and I wanted to make sure it was valid when it reached my home county's supervisor of elections.  I had a roommate (who was genuinely barking mad) who used to whine about government, and one day admitted that not only had she not voted, she hadn't even registered.  I suggested to her that deliberately failing to vote meant she should shut up about all those people she neither voted for nor against.  The absolute righteousness of being 20!  (I myself got worried when a friend of mine pointed out to me that when I argued with my roommate at meals, I almost always fondled my dinner knife - a side of myself I had never suspected and was briefly worried about.}

[attica]

Can I just say how much it annoys me to see half the screen occupied by stupid B-roll of Things Blowing in Strong Winds? If it's not a live feed, what's the point? (I hate storm coverage. 30 seconds of info spread to an hour.)

[meowmommy]

3 hours ago, attica said:

Can I just say how much it annoys me to see half the screen occupied by stupid B-roll of Things Blowing in Strong Winds? If it's not a live feed, what's the point? (I hate storm coverage. 30 seconds of info spread to an hour.)

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.  And especially when it's not even live, but a loop of the same pennant blowing in the wind.  As I watched it last night, I thought it was someone's version of a guilty conscience, as if they were afraid we'd think they'd callously forgotten about the hurricane if there wasn't footage running continuously.  And honestly, what new news existed last night--it hadn't even made landfall yet--that they had to take huge sections of each show to cover it?  Even a three year old could tell us it's tremendously big and tremendously wet.  We know how to get to the Weather Channel if we need weather porn.

[stormy]

I think Michael Moore explained it best. The voters in Michigan that decided the outcome came down to two voters per precinct. 

The panel was pretty insufferable to me.

Hell even Chris scoffed at "inspire'. And how does that explain how Rick Snyder was elected twice?

Edited September 14, 2018 by stormy

[attica]

I thought Chris's recap of the hearings yesterday was stellar. I appreciated that most of his panel guests were women, who all showed sensitivity and expertise. Plus, he captured my 'omg did that really just happen?!' state of mind perfectly.

[attica]

Hooray for All In and their brand new Emmy for the Chicago special!

[Sharpie66]

I was recently speaking with my very conservative 87-year-old uncle, who is in charge of the farmland that the family owns downstate. He was negotiating soy bean sales, and was fuming over the price drop from $10.36 to $7.56 per bushel. He only had very nasty words to say about Trump, which really surprised me to hear from him. 

[stormy]

I always like seeing Michael Moore.

[stormy]

About last night's Michael Moore interview.

He talked about trump isn't running for reelection 2020. He's running for reelection 2018. 

I don't understand why MSNBC (and CNN) show even one split second of him at his rallies with his idiot followers cheering him.

I do a lot of muting.

[stormy]

WTH  Land O'Lakes and Intel have contributed to Rep Steve King?

Land O'Lakes is a MN company. As a Minnesotan the company's been a familiar part of my whole life. And Intel too? My husband and I have been shareholders since the early '90's. I am embarrassed and disgusted! 

[izabella]

My question is, who are the other companies contributing to Steve King, why haven't they denounced him and ended their contributions, and where can I find a list of them so I can boycott all of them? 

Edited October 31, 2018 by izabella

[Sharpie66]

Maddow Blog had an interesting article on one possible obstacle to young voters sending mail-in ballots—they don’t know how to mail things! http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/hurdle-young-voters-unfamiliarity-the-post-office

[possibilities]

For crying out loud, what kind of a generation of unresourceful babies are we raising? Let's say you don't know how to get stamps or use the post office? So google it. Or call the PO and ask. I'm not buying this as a real obstacle. People who want to do something like this will figure it out. They can even ask their parents for that matter. Motivation is the issue, not the mystery of how to use the mail.

[clb1016]

19 hours ago, possibilities said:

For crying out loud, what kind of a generation of unresourceful babies are we raising? Let's say you don't know how to get stamps or use the post office? So google it. Or call the PO and ask. I'm not buying this as a real obstacle. People who want to do something like this will figure it out. They can even ask their parents for that matter. Motivation is the issue, not the mystery of how to use the mail.

I missed Rachel's show but I assume she was referencing this article from New York Magazine.  It's gotten quite a bit of attention, for reasons which are immediately obvious.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/12-young-people-on-why-they-probably-wont-vote.html

[maystone]

Thank you, Chris, for devoting some time to climate change. I hate what Trump and the GOP have done to the country. I want them out. But in or out doesn't matter at all if we don't quickly make some major decisions to address climate change, and yet it gets near zero coverage. It's insanity! A large part of the damage this administration is causing is directly leading to the doomsday scenario facing the world. Could the media start focusing on that, please? I'm old, and I'm childless, but I don't understand how parents and grandparents aren't forcing attention to the hell we'll be leaving their children and grandchildren. And I especially point to people in the news media who have the platform right there. Do something! Please.

[attica]

I literally cheered in my chair when that NC republican dude asked in a snappish way, 'what, do you want us to have no voting restrictions at all?' and Chris said flat out, 'Yes. That is what I want.' THANK YOU! Say it out loud, stop letting the Rs define the debate!

[Hanahope]

4 hours ago, attica said:

I literally cheered in my chair when that NC republican dude asked in a snappish way, 'what, do you want us to have no voting restrictions at all?' and Chris said flat out, 'Yes. That is what I want.' THANK YOU! Say it out loud, stop letting the Rs define the debate!

IKR!  And the NC dude seemed so taken aback at Chris' response.  Its not like we had problems with voter IDs for oh a century or two.

[Sharpie66]

An interesting interview with Chris at the Chicago Tribune:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-ent-chris-hayes-qa-chicago-1212-story.html

[attica]

Chris is the subject of this week's NYT Work Diary.

[Sharpie66]

He is on a promotional push right now! Here’s a “day in the life of” profile at the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/business/chris-hayes-work-diary.html#click=https://t.co/OlTZdiR8uW

Attica, ya beat me to It!

[stormy]

Trevor Potter was new to me. What a delightful interview.

[Sharpie66]

Watch the old Colbert Report segments on Stephen’s PAC—Trevor Potter was the show’s expert on the topic.

[Hooper]

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Trevor Potter was new to me. What a delightful interview.

OMG.  I have such an old-lady crush on Trevor Potter from his stint as Colbert's advisor for his SuperPAC.  I squeed when I saw he had co-authored an editorial for the WaPo this morning, and super-squeed to see him back on my TV.

[attica]

Aww, that was a swell shout-out to Chris's friend Lin Manuel Miranda,  him quoting some Hamilton lyrics in the build-the-wall story: "You're gonna need Congressional approval and you don’t have the votes!" To which I rejoined from my couch, 'eh heh, heh heh!'

[Sharpie66]

Pelosi: Sometimes I wonder why I even bring the thunder.

Schumer: Why she even brings the thunder...

[Hanahope]

I love Chris Hayes' take down of Paul Ryan.  How he was all for spending and running up the debt under GWB with tax cuts to the rich, wars, etc., then suddenly became so concerned about the debt under Obama trying to cut Medicare and Social Security instead of reigning in tax cuts, then was  on board with running up the debt again under trump with even more tax cuts to the rich.

[tessaray]

Welcome to "All In", the single topic. Anything related to Chris Hayes and the show itself are now all together.  The basic guidelines haven't changed, even though there is no pinned post.

I know there are lots of changes going on. Hang in there! 

[freddi]

Why, oh why, is Michael Moore such a fixture on this show?   I have really liked some of his films, but get so worn down by his commentary, and have just muted his most recent five or ten appearances in the past month.  (Yes, I am exaggerating the number, but it has been a LOT of appearances in the past year.)

[stormy]

ITA  the last time he was on (before the mid terms) I liked the things he said about the self centered, self serving trump.  But last night he was unwatchable and reminded me why I don't like him.

Edited December 29, 2018 by stormy

[Hanahope]

Love his interview with Maxine Waters.  How she turned an "undesired" position on the Banking Committee and turned it into a very powerful tool.  Oh, and what she'll do.  First step...Deutsche Bank!

[attica]

Wajahat Ali says 'it's not sexy to talk about subpoenas'. I say Yeah, it is!!!!