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Everyone knows Ensley does not have Down syndrome. Posts suggesting that she does will be removed and warnings issued. Posts such as these leave the impression that an arguably unflattering picture could somehow be construed as a child being disabled is considered ableist and is against the rules of the board.

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22 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Not sure why this came to me, but I wonder what David did with that mirror/vanity Nathan gave Jenelle as a gift because I know for a fact he wouldn't let that be around. I wonder if it was used as some sort of bonfire? 

I saw it in the episode where he was packing and Jenelle was bitching.  I wondered aloud if he knew Nathan gave it to her. I think not or it would have been trashed long ago.

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18 hours ago, druzy said:

Thanks @Rebecca- I didn't know that! 

No problem!

 

18 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I didn't know either. How do people find this stuff? 

Not sure how I found that one but I'm full of internet knowledge, hahaha. For instance, if anyone wants to know where to watch this show for free online, with no commercials, pm me. 

 

18 hours ago, druzy said:

I was looking at Jenelle's Instagram account (via instaliga.com- thanks again @Rebecca) and found this post from 5-10-15

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Yeah, Barb is super hard on Jenelle. She sucks ass. Why not send that TO BARB instead of posting it? Oh wait, then there would be no point because no one else would see it and we all know she doesn't mean it. Someone should tweet her that and let her see her own words.

 

13 hours ago, jumper sage said:

Just saw some crap all over the rags about Kaiser's grandma taking Janelle to court because Ensley was born with pot in her bloodstream and Kaiser has been having bruises on his body.

She should not have any kids EVER.

Check this thread...lots of info about that has been posted/linked to. She shouldn't be around humans or animals.

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Jenelle Evans’ Mom BANS Her From Seeing Son After Failed Drug Test Scandal

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Barbara Evans opened up about the explosive court documents exclusively published by Radar, in which baby daddy Nathan Griffith’s mother asked a judge for emergency custody of Jenelle’s second son Kaiser after the reality star was investigated by the Department of Social Services for having drugs in her system when she gave birth and passing it along to newborn Ensley Eason.

“That’s a fact,” Barbara told Radar about the bombshell investigation Doris Davidson revealed in her filing. “I have Jace, so when something like that happens, they contact me.”

She told Radar that she used that investigation against Jenelle to keep Jace, 7, away from her.

PHOTOS: Jenelle Evans: 18 Secrets, Scandals & Lies From The Controversial ‘Teen Mom’ Star’s Troubled Life

“That’s the reason we were going to court. I can’t send him over there when that’s happened [Ensley testing positive for drugs]. I don’t want to put him in that atmosphere,” she said about her grandchild Jace, of whom she has full custody.

“I knew all along [about Ensley] and never exposed it until the day of court in May,” Barbara told Radar. “And the baby was born in January. All that time I never opened my mouth.”

Barbara also told Radar that the Teen Mom 2 cameras were rolling after court when she discussed the drug investigation.

“I’m very curious if MTV will air the footage of me from the day I went to court with Jenelle,” she said. “After court I was talking to one of her girlfriends, Jamie, asking her ‘what do you think about this decision.’ I told her, ‘You just don’t know all that’s going on.’ I said, ‘If you people only knew this true story. This is not about me or her, this is about Jace’s life.’ They filmed that.”

“I said it [Ensley testing positive for drugs]. Everybody thinks that I held Jace back, I told the girl. That’s the reason why. She said ‘I didn’t know that.’ Well, nobody knew it. I was contacted about the investigation and told about it in court.”

Barbara told Radar that she had been cut off from her two younger grandchildren by Jenelle.

“She won’t let me see Kaiser or Ensley. I can’t see either one of them. She did that a long time ago. Same situation. She won’t let me see them. Then she says to me ‘You don’t want to see your grandkids,’ but I told her ‘Last week you told me you would have me arrested if you came on your property.’”

 

Barbara also dropped another shocking allegation — that Jenelle smoked marijuana while pregnant with Jace as well.

 

“You should not be smoking weed when you’re pregnant. She was friggin’ stoned the whole time [she was pregnant with Jace.] I don’t care what it is. It is illegal. She is irresponsible,” she fumed.

 

Barbara told Radar that she supports Doris’ bid for custody of Kaiser.

Jenelle released a statement about Doris’ shocking claims.

“I can tell you that they are allegations, mostly driven by my mom. Our lawyers are working out a new agreement. Our lawyers are talking today. Doris made accusations but I can tell you that Barbara has a lot to do with them. Doris threw her own son under the bus by admitting that he has pending felonies and possibly on drugs. Her emergency filing was against me and Nathan both,” the MTV star said.

Barbara told Radar that she was fearful for the toddler in Jenelle’s custody.

“I’ve been worried about Kaiser for a long time. We think it’s because he looks like Nathan, therefore David gets more angry with him because of that fact.”

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From Druzy's link above: 

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Barbara also told Radar that the Teen Mom 2 cameras were rolling after court when she discussed the drug investigation.

“I’m very curious if MTV will air the footage of me from the day I went to court with Jenelle,” she said. “After court I was talking to one of her girlfriends, Jamie, asking her ‘what do you think about this decision.’ I told her, ‘You just don’t know all that’s going on.’ I said, ‘If you people only knew this true story. This is not about me or her, this is about Jace’s life.’ They filmed that.”

“I said it [Ensley testing positive for drugs]. Everybody thinks that I held Jace back, I told the girl. That’s the reason why. She said ‘I didn’t know that.’ Well, nobody knew it. I was contacted about the investigation and told about it in court.”

Barbara told Radar that she had been cut off from her two younger grandchildren by Jenelle.

 

GOOD for Barb. Also, the part bolded (by me) above tells me this is way worse than any situation Jenelle has found herself in before. Whatever is going on at Jenelle's house is worse than we've suspected. Barb has seen some sh*t with Jenelle and her boyfriends. If she says David is the worst boyfriend Jenelle's ever had, that says all we need to know (and she did say that last season). Ya'll....I have a feeling we are about to witness something going terribly off the tracks bad of a trainwreck situation....the kind so bad you can't even look at it anymore....  

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Ya'll, I'm really worried for Kaiser. Endtable isn't big enough to be a big annoyance yet and she's Jenelle's much-wanted girl & David's blood. 

I'm also pretty worried for Barb. And for Doris.

I'm also disgusted by the fact that this grown a$$ man is speaking so disrespectfully to Barb and Doris (especially Doris! He doesn't even know her at all!!!). Cursing and threatening grandmothers is not a good look, David & Jenelle. David especially just seems like a bully speaking like that to these grandmas. He makes himself look like a little man. If my son EVER spoke to his girlfriend's/wife's/friend's mom like that (even if she was the biggest B in the world), he'd be sorry, even if he was a grown man himself. I was taught to respect your elders even when they do things you don't agree with, etc. You can disagree and still be respectful.  This makes me so upset....I wanna fill the streets with upper cut (figuratively speaking). 

And I'm not giving Jenelle a pass. David IS Jenelle, just larger, louder, more powerful, and able to do more physical damage. They both are AWFUL. 

Doris should start a GoFund me to Save Kaiser. I'll donate. We can worry about Endtable once the bigger kids who aren't David's blood are safe. She's enough of a novelty right now that I fear for her safety the least (which isn't to say I'm not concerned). 

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17 hours ago, druzy said:

 

 

Actually, she had a bunch of other dogs. Jenelle doesn't have the best track record when it comes to keeping the pets she buys. First there was her German Shepard named Cali who became a K9 dog,then there was her Chihuahua puppy named McKayla (who knows what happened to that little thing … so worried), then there was her bearded dragon named Yoshi who was murdered by an evil heat lamp, then there was her pit bull named Brody who was given away to a friend, and finally there's her other pit bull named Jax who Jenelle still appears to own. Basically, homegirl flies through pets faster than Farrah Abraham flies through thong-kinis.

I managed to mess up the quote box but Jenelle's mysterious disappearing pet situation reminds me of the South Park episode where all of Paris Hilton's pets keep committing suicide.

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Barbara told Radar that she had been cut off from her two younger grandchildren by Jenelle

Ha! Didn't we call it? For those who forgot, some of us had a discussion a while back in response to the comment that Barb didn't seem to care about Kaiser. The main reason we gave in defense of Barb was that Jenelle was likely withholding Kaiser from her, and here is Barb confirming that very thing. 

 

1 hour ago, Mkay said:

Go Barbara! 

I'm sure they won't air it, but I'm so glad she kept it quiet until court. Jenelle thought Barbara was scared. Ha!

And now we know why Jenelle was shaking and worried. Still, why was she allowed visitation of Jace? It is apparent Jenelle is not a fit parent to the kids that are in her care and custody, but why allow any visitation with a child who is not in her care and custody and WITHOUT court-ordered drug testing? 

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Barb: “I said it [Ensley testing positive for drugs]. Everybody thinks that I held Jace back, I told the girl. That’s the reason why. She said ‘I didn’t know that.’ Well, nobody knew it. I was contacted about the investigation and told about it in court.”

And Barb confirms what I was questioning a few pages back - if she was contacted by DCS since Jace was in Jenelle's care part-time. 

Here was Jenelle trying her damnedest to capture Barb on videotape being under the influence in the hopes of swaying a judge in order to deflect her own indiscretion. Sorry, but Jenelle is a c*nt. 

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For anyone who thinks Barb doesn't care about Kaiser, I totally believe she is 100% low-key helping Doris/giving Doris information to help Nana Doris get custody of Kaiser. Barb is 64 and already raising Jace (& apparently Ashleigh's kids as well). She cannot and should not take on another toddler at this point, especially if Nathan's mom is fit, able, and willing (which she appears to be) but Barb is doing what she can to help save Kaiser. I believe the two women are working together...although Kaiser may not physically have Barb like Jace does, he still has Barb working behind the scenes for him. (Nathan's mom does not have custody of Nathan's daughter; the daughter is in the custody of her maternal grandparents, so she will only be caring for one child.) I believe Barb has kept quiet about all of this until it came out because 1) he didn't want Jenelle to accuse her of trying to "steal" Kaiser away like Jenelle claims (read: lies) that Barb did with Jace; and 2) unlike Jenelle and her enabling, idiot social media followers, Barb just cared about trying to do the right thing for Kaiser, not going on social media tirades about how unfit Jenelle and UBT are (ie: Barb is an adult & doesn't have time for that). 

I don't know what will happen to Endtable. Like I said, I feel confident she's relatively safe (compared to Kaiser) for now, but man, I hope someone in David's family is fit enought to one day take her. Right now, though, the number one focus should be to Save Kaiser. I REALLY hope the courts will intervene to save him, but....I don't know how hopeful I should be.

And all I want for Christmas, Hannukah, Easter, Dia de los Reyes Magos, my birthday, Eid, Diwali, Valentine's Day, Easter, and all other gift-giving-like holidays for the next year is for Jenelle to get herself sterilized. (David and Nathan, too. But espeically Jenelle.)   The fact that these people are so immature & careless when it comes to creating life - another living human being - is so disgusting. Planning to have babies when you know you don't want to care for them and just so you have something to hold against your soul mate when they leave you, to create your Pintrest-perfect-instagram family, etc. is jus SO AWFUL. The kids they've created aren't objects. They are PEOPLE. Jenelle, UBT, Nathan, & others who purposefully have babies for their own selfish reasons when they are clearly unfit and don't give a sh*t make me so disgusted.

(Also, I am reminded here that Adam is totally NOT the worst person to be on a TM show, because he realized he's a POS parent & got himself sterilized. Jenelle is going to keep reproducing for the next decade or more.)  #TeamNanaDoris #TeamBarb

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One more thought: More than once, we've seen Kaiser yell for David or want David/want to go with David when Jenelle is right there, too. We know what UBT is allegedly doing/saying to/around Kaiser....yet Kaiser still wants/prefers David. This makes it pretty clear to me that David is the one doing the minimum to keep Kaiser alive (milk, hot dogs, etc.) and that Jenelle is even more of a POS mother/person when the cameras aren't around if Kaiser calls for the awful, scary David rather than his mother.....

Okay, I'm gonna stop now. I'm really sorry for all the ramblings about Kaiser's situation. My son is just a few months younger than Kaiser and this breaks my heart so bad.  :(

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18 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

One more thought: More than once, we've seen Kaiser yell for David or want David/want to go with David when Jenelle is right there, too. We know what UBT is allegedly doing/saying to/around Kaiser....yet Kaiser still wants/prefers David. This makes it pretty clear to me that David is the one doing the minimum to keep Kaiser alive (milk, hot dogs, etc.) and that Jenelle is even more of a POS mother/person when the cameras aren't around if Kaiser calls for the awful, scary David rather than his mother.....

Okay, I'm gonna stop now. I'm really sorry for all the ramblings about Kaiser's situation. My son is just a few months younger than Kaiser and this breaks my heart so bad.  :(

The lesser of two evils. David is an abuser to Kaiser while Jenelle yells and ignores him. When a child prefers the company of the person who actually interacts with him even if it is with a hit or a smack. 

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It's too bad they don't make pieces of shit like jenelle get sterilized.   That needs to be a thing.  

Oh and still wondering why barb was dropping jace off on 'the land' when she knew it was proven that Jenelle wasn't clean and all of this shit is going on with Kaiser.  

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32 minutes ago, lexiexx said:

It's too bad they don't make pieces of shit like jenelle get sterilized.   That needs to be a thing.  

Oh and still wondering why barb was dropping jace off on 'the land' when she knew it was proven that Jenelle wasn't clean and all of this shit is going on with Kaiser.  

Going by the timeline, Barb wasn't informed about Jenelle being under the influence while pregnant until May, four months after the fact. Barb had no proof of anything until then. When she found out, she stopped the visits. That was when Jenelle was bitching about Mother's Day and wanting Jace with her. 

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 No, Jenelle was high the whole pregnancy with Jace too.  She made youtube videos back then, getting high and driving around.   Then was smoking pot with Ensley too.   Barb gave an interview to Radar where she said that she knew all along about Ensley because CPS notified her, and she said nothing until court in May.  She also said nothing when she found those needles when Jenelle was with Kieffer.   So why was Jace over there visiting?  Why did she not pull for supervised visits since Jace himself says that he does not like David or want to be over there? Jenelle gives no fucks about making Jace comfortable, just like all of these moms, the boyfriend and his comfort comes first.

“I knew all along [about Ensley] and never exposed it until the day of court in May,” Barbara told Radar. “And the baby was born in January. All that time I never opened my mouth.”

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Jenelle Evans’ Mom BANS Her From Seeing Son After Failed Drug Test Scandal

I'm so glad this all came out and we got to hear what Barb is thinking/doing.

1 hour ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

One more thought: More than once, we've seen Kaiser yell for David or want David/want to go with David when Jenelle is right there, too. We know what UBT is allegedly doing/saying to/around Kaiser....yet Kaiser still wants/prefers David. This makes it pretty clear to me that David is the one doing the minimum to keep Kaiser alive (milk, hot dogs, etc.) and that Jenelle is even more of a POS mother/person when the cameras aren't around if Kaiser calls for the awful, scary David rather than his mother.....

I've mentioned that in an episode thread before, it really shows what a piece of shit Jenelle is.

1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

Kids often "love" their abusers. Even though it seems David is hurting him, he is also the one who is giving him food and some minor attention. 

 

God, this situation just breaks my heart. I am praying all grandmas win forever!

Yep...like an abused dog who is still loyal to the owners. All Kaiser knows is that sometimes David pays attention to him. Jenelle clearly doesn't spend any time with Kaiser, she usually acts like a very immature and cold 14 year old that is babysitting for the first time when she's around him alone.

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Just now, DangerousMinds said:

Why can't she just call or email these people? Privately? Real question!

And is there anyone who DIDN'T think Jenelle was smoking pot throughout all of her pregnancies?

We all knew. I am sure Barb knew as well.

Barb is the one who has to prove it to the courts. By the time court hearings are held, that is enough time for Jenelle to get her system cleaned. Barb and her attorney had to know this and why she likely had to wait until Jenelle was caught. Sad, but that is how the courts work.

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So I'll be the asshole to say it but those pit bulls around the kids scares me as well. They already have two neglectful parents and they have to also be around dogs who can be aggressive if their owners are neglectful assholes. 

Jenelle and ID don't strike me as the type to train their dogs and make sure they are fine around the kids. 

I have no doubt they go get high in the room and leave Ensley in a bouncer and Kaiser roaming with the Pitties in the house. These poor kids and pets are doomed in that house. 

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I don't even care what he is referring to...the use of the word "respect" in reference to Jenelle makes me say REALLY??! as well. And the thought of Javi and Janelle having an adult convo makes me lol. It's a weird time for him to be supporting or respecting Jenelle..but when wouldn't it be a weird time for that I guess...

He's an attention whore for sure, @LunaMia. I actually think he hooked up with Kailyn, in part, because he wanted to be part of the show. I also think the show is a big reason he stayed with her. He really embraced his "stardom."  He's also being vague with "concerning issues" - he could just say Jenelle and I worked out the issue around the pregnancy announcement or whatever the issue was. Or he could be super original and just tweet nothing.

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I agree @Rebecca. Why is he even talking to Radar online in the first place? What's so interesting about his life that he needs an interview. I don't know why Radar asked him what he thought of the custody battle, why do they care what he thinks? Who does he think he is!? A PTVer!? ?

Then he said he didn't like how Jenelle uses social media to hash out her problems. Um, you all do that! I'm still on his side 100% when it comes to the Pail, but he still annoys me. 

"Concerning issues" another vague tweet,  ugh. 

I couldn't imagine Cole, Jo, or Corey going on Radar to discuss nonsense. 

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15 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Ya'll, I'm really worried for Kaiser. Endtable isn't big enough to be a big annoyance yet and she's Jenelle's much-wanted girl & David's blood. 

I'm also pretty worried for Barb. And for Doris.

I'm also disgusted by the fact that this grown a$$ man is speaking so disrespectfully to Barb and Doris (especially Doris! He doesn't even know her at all!!!). Cursing and threatening grandmothers is not a good look, David & Jenelle. David especially just seems like a bully speaking like that to these grandmas. He makes himself look like a little man. If my son EVER spoke to his girlfriend's/wife's/friend's mom like that (even if she was the biggest B in the world), he'd be sorry, even if he was a grown man himself. I was taught to respect your elders even when they do things you don't agree with, etc. You can disagree and still be respectful.  This makes me so upset....I wanna fill the streets with upper cut (figuratively speaking). 

And I'm not giving Jenelle a pass. David IS Jenelle, just larger, louder, more powerful, and able to do more physical damage. They both are AWFUL. 

Doris should start a GoFund me to Save Kaiser. I'll donate. We can worry about Endtable once the bigger kids who aren't David's blood are safe. She's enough of a novelty right now that I fear for her safety the least (which isn't to say I'm not concerned). 

Ensley also cannot talk back yet. Give it time. 

If there's a GoFundMe started I would like to donate as well.

 

13 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

. Right now, though, the number one focus should be to Save Kaiser. 

I think Doris will be successful. Just a shame she can't use TM2 footage.

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1 hour ago, Mkay said:

Let's take a moment to remember Jenelle's tribute to 9-11 last year.  

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Yea. I think so. Jenelle will bring it back up as soon as she needs to use it against Javi.  He's dumb. 

I forgot!! #neverforget

I want to quit this show so badly -- but I would miss reading and posting with you all. 

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1 hour ago, CofCinci said:

I forgot!! #neverforget

I want to quit this show so badly -- but I would miss reading and posting with you all. 

Same here. 

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Barbara told Radar that she was fearful for the toddler in Jenelle’s custody.

“I’ve been worried about Kaiser for a long time. We think it’s because he looks like Nathan, therefore David gets more angry with him because of that fact.”

We have posted this many times over on this board. It makes me tear up and yet, so fucking angry. How does any decent human being take out their anger on a child whose mistake is looking like their parent? 

I like how Barb in her own way is slamming the editing of the show with her comment about wishing MTV would show certain scenes. 

“I’m very curious if MTV will air the footage of me from the day I went to court with Jenelle,” she said. “After court I was talking to one of her girlfriends, Jamie, asking her ‘what do you think about this decision.’ I told her, ‘You just don’t know all that’s going on.’ I said, ‘If you people only knew this true story. This is not about me or her, this is about Jace’s life.’ They filmed that.”

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I assume MTV is going in on hyping up what we minor drama there is for Chelsea in an effort to keep Jenelle around. I think Jenelle has complained multiple times that she gets an unfair edit compared to the other girls. We who are reasonable people know that's bullshit, but MTV does have to consider their bottom line and they already tried this experiment on OG by getting rid of Farrah. That backfired badly. TM2 without Jenelle would fair even worse. I think this season is an effort to appease her. 

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This is so sickening on every level. An investigator from DSS finds this when they visit (from The Ashley)

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Mother and father tested positive for substances during investigation,” the document reads. (The document did not indicate what ‘substances’ the pair tested positive for. The Ashley assumes it’s THC, but can’t confirm that.)

A representative of New Hanover County Department of Social Services (NHCDSS) paid a visit to Jenelle’s home in March and reported some disturbing issues.

“NHCDSS visited the home and smelled THC and the child [Ensley] was present in the room at the time,” the social worker reported. “Neither parent cooperated in testing additionally when requested to do so.”

The social worker, who visited the Evans/Eason home weekly during the investigation, set goals for Jenelle and David to follow. Those goals included “to ensure parents do not use illegal substances in the presence of their children or while pending care” and “to make appropriate supervisions for child care, to be more responsible.”

And, MTV continues to throw huge sums of money at them. Way to go, MTV. Stay stoned while you're pregnant, let your boyfriend beat up your kids, be such horrible humans that DSS has to investigate you and tell you not to use drugs in front of your kids and to be responsible and supervise your kids. For that, you'll be rewarded with hundreds of thousands of dollars and MTV will do everything to enable you to continue being the scum of the earth.

When the Duggar thing happened, TLC responded to the backlash by at least getting the pedophile and his disgusting parents off TV. MTV should cut Jenelle loose immediately but we know they won't. What a lovely message they're sending to people! Get pregnant when you're a teenager, dump the child with his grandmother, get arrested a dozen times, be a junkie, have another kid with a guy you barely know,  have a violent relationship with that guy, dump him, hook up on Tinder with another violent guy, move him in, have another kid, continue using drugs, neglect your children and you get to be on TV and get paid a shit ton of money! I think I'm going to go throw up.....................

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53 minutes ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:

I assume MTV is going in on hyping up what we minor drama there is for Chelsea in an effort to keep Jenelle around. I think Jenelle has complained multiple times that she gets an unfair edit compared to the other girls. We who are reasonable people know that's bullshit, but MTV does have to consider their bottom line and they already tried this experiment on OG by getting rid of Farrah. That backfired badly. TM2 without Jenelle would fair even worse. I think this season is an effort to appease her. 

I think you are right. I think it's time to cancel both shows. At this point nothing is ever going to really change in these girls lives. Jenelle and Amber continue to get rewarded for being terrible people who should not be allowed within 100 feet of any child. Without the show they would have completely bailed on their kids by now (that is a good thing in these cases) or be in gel. Leah seems to finally have gotten her crap together (as much as she can) but I think living in the limelight makes is very easy for her to relapse. I also don't think it's fair to Ali to continue filming while her physical struggles increase. I think Chelsea and Kail will be the same with or without the cameras. Kail may have to give up her Pinterest place. I don't count Briana.

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I don't understand how you can get away with refusing drugs tests while being investigated. The caseworker said this:

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“Neither parent cooperated in testing additionally when requested to do so.”

There was a case recently in my area (Washington state) involving a couple being investigated by CPS for neglecting their children. The father failed to show up for a drug test and the children were taken and sent to live with the maternal grandmother. I just don't get how Jenelle and UBT could say they weren't going to drug test and the caseworker just says okey dokey and closes the file. WTF??

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I don't understand how you can get away with refusing drugs tests while being investigated. The caseworker said this:

There was a case recently in my area (Washington state) involving a couple being investigated by CPS for neglecting their children. The father failed to show up for a drug test and the children were taken and sent to live with the maternal grandmother. I just don't get how Jenelle and UBT could say they weren't going to drug test and the caseworker just says okey dokey and closes the file. WTF??

It is as disturbing as the judge in the custody case allowing Jenelle to have scheduled visitations with Jace when she wasn't even taking care of the kids that were already in her care. And this was after it came to his/her attention of Jenelle having tested positive for THC while pregnant. At the very least, those two should have been ordered to be drug-tested on the regular before ordering Jenelle being allowed to have visitations. If she or UBT fails the test, no visitation. Period. 

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Everyone knows Ensley does not have Down syndrome. Posts suggesting that she does will be removed and warnings issued. Posts such as these leave the impression that an arguably unflattering picture could somehow be construed as a child being disabled is considered ableist and is against the rules of the board.

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