LilaFowler June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, saratothej said: yep, and called her a lone bird or odd bird or something like that ? It was an epic fail of a trip. I think Sophia has met many, many men. Farrah always rushes that part. Question for the group: do you think Farrah is a good mother? Edited June 26, 2017 by LilaFowler 4 Link to comment
Mambo Gladys June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, LilaFowler said: Question for the group: do you think Farrah is a good mother? Tough to say. I don't think Sophia's welfare is ever in danger as some of the children's on this show are. I think Farrah truly loves Sophia but maybe doesn't know how to relate to a child or understand age-appropriateness. She does leave her in the care of others a lot while she goes away on "business" or trips, but maybe that balances out with when she's home for weeks at a time and doesn't have a babysitter. Still, it must be odd for a child that age to go such periods of time without seeing their mom. 13 Link to comment
GreatKazu June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Simon posted this on Twitter about tomorrow's finale: 2 Link to comment
guilfoyleatpp June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 44 minutes ago, GreatKazu said: Simon posted this on Twitter about tomorrow's finale: Rhine has a nice profile. Too bad he's a complete fuck up in every other possible way. 7 Link to comment
GreatKazu June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said: Rhine has a nice profile. Too bad he's a complete fuck up in every other possible way. If you look closely, you can see a lemur with big eyes on the building in the background. Kinda ironic considering Ryan's eyes. lol 13 Link to comment
AmyFarrahFowler June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, GreatKazu said: If you look closely, you can see a lemur with big eyes on the building in the background. Kinda ironic considering Ryan's eyes. lol I love how you always notice these things! LMAO 7 Link to comment
GreatKazu June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 16 minutes ago, AmyFarrahFowler said: I love how you always notice these things! LMAO Thank goodness for the zoom in feature. lol I was trying to figure out where they were getting married. I zoomed in on the building. Are they at a wildlife preserve? lol 3 Link to comment
guilfoyleatpp June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, GreatKazu said: Thank goodness for the zoom in feature. lol I was trying to figure out where they were getting married. I zoomed in on the building. Are they at a wildlife preserve? lol You are awesome. I love the lemur. also - BOOM Tennessee Aquarium http://www.tnaqua.org/ 3 Link to comment
GreatKazu June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 1 minute ago, guilfoyleatpp said: You are awesome. I love the lemur. also - BOOM Tennessee Aquarium http://www.tnaqua.org/ Oh snap! lol You are quick. What is it with the aquarium weddings? 4 Link to comment
Christina June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 When Farrah moved to Florida, they filmed a date of hers with some guy. Another man commented on the tabloid stories about that man, that he was involved in acting or something, and that he had actually dated Farrah for a few months. The story updated with the info about the man on the show, confirming he was an actor and that the date was probably not legit, but couldn't get the man who was commenting to give up his name. He answered some questions in the comments, including that Sophia was never around and was living with Debra, which later was shown on the show. Farrah asked Debra to keep her why she finished school and went on vacation to Austin with the stepson of the lone bird, but didn't show that Sophia was only there for filming, and he claimed that there was never any kid stuff around. To that point, Farrah seems super neat, so everything was probably put away and she only allowed Sophia to have one or two things at once. Compared to when Debra was there and they were painting the dog, and Sophia's stuff was everywhere like most kids. He gave a bunch of info on what her porn would be, and after it was released, a new article was posted showing how correct he was, but he still wouldn't give a formal interview. I think he went to school with her and they separated because he said they just didn't get along, and had the opportunity to trash her and didn't, other than revealing her sexual preferences, which isn't really trashing, but still inappropriate assholish behavior, in my opinion. I'm going to see if I can find it and the info on the boyfriend she tried to get a restraining order on. It wasn't Derek, it was after him and I think when the show was on hiatus. According to Simon, Debra's boyfriend tried to tweet Farrah's first, then moved on to her when Farrah didn't respond. Debra has always maintained that they met on a dating site. She had been scammed on one of them before, so probably was still using them to meet someone. Simon's responded to someone asking him if it was true, and said yes. I don't know where it came from originally, but I only saw it on Simon's twitter. Dave's friend "Geoff" tweeting Farrah as him is probably the truth. hahahaha 5 Link to comment
Christina June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Radar's crappy site crashed my browser and locked up my computer! I had to hold the power button down to shut it down, and it probably wasn't even what I was looking for, rat bastards. I'm still looking for the articles I mentioned, but one of the links in my search was an article that included the tweet where Simon said Dr. Douche tweeted Farrah before Debra, and am going to link it here while I keep searching. That article was on Radar and said they couldn't find any tweet from him to Farrah. I suppose he could have deleted it. 2 Link to comment
MissMel June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Dr. Douche's twitter: https://twitter.com/DavidMerz Not much but still kind of weird. He gives the creep vibe just as much as Matt. 6 Link to comment
Mambo Gladys June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, MissMel said: Dr. Douche's twitter: https://twitter.com/DavidMerz Not much but still kind of weird. He gives the creep vibe just as much as Matt. I don't think that's his twitter. Sounds like that's a guy who was in high school in the late 90s. Here's the one I think is his https:/twitter.com/Wzitdems All he follows is brewing companies and only has two posts from 2011. Edited June 26, 2017 by saratothej 5 Link to comment
MissMel June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, saratothej said: I don't think that's his twitter. Sounds like that's a guy who was in high school in the late 90s. Here's the one I think is his https:/twitter.com/Wzitdems All he follows is brewing companies and only has two posts from 2011. I don't get this twitter thing, obviously. I've been wrong about it before, Lol :) 1 Link to comment
Cabarb June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Quote What is it with the aquarium weddings? From the preview I saw, it doesn't even look like they rated the inside of the aquarium! It looks like they just got married out in the parking lot. I've seen comments that they got married so quickly and quietly just so she could visit him in rehab? For somebody who has more knowledge than I do, is that the way it works? Would she be barred from visiting unless they married? 8 Link to comment
Snarky McSnarky June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 11 hours ago, GreatKazu said: What is it with the aquarium weddings? Kail wanted to invite her manatee friends. Other brides, I have no idea. 11 Link to comment
MissMel June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 48 minutes ago, Cabarb said: From the preview I saw, it doesn't even look like they rated the inside of the aquarium! It looks like they just got married out in the parking lot. I've seen comments that they got married so quickly and quietly just so she could visit him in rehab? For somebody who has more knowledge than I do, is that the way it works? Would she be barred from visiting unless they married? Good question. I don't know the answer. I've visited 2 rehabs and one detox. I wasn't married to any one of them. Only blood related to one of three people, as well. My gut reaction is that she's pregnant and they shotgunned the wedding and it has nothing to do with his health. I have no idea, though. 9 Link to comment
GreatKazu June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Cabarb said: From the preview I saw, it doesn't even look like they rated the inside of the aquarium! It looks like they just got married out in the parking lot. I've seen comments that they got married so quickly and quietly just so she could visit him in rehab? For somebody who has more knowledge than I do, is that the way it works? Would she be barred from visiting unless they married? It depends. There are rules at rehab and some of them are that there can't be any visitation as that is a disruption to the process. 4 hours ago, Christina said: Radar's crappy site crashed my browser and locked up my computer! I had to hold the power button down to shut it down, and it probably wasn't even what I was looking for, rat bastards. I'm still looking for the articles I mentioned, but one of the links in my search was an article that included the tweet where Simon said Dr. Douche tweeted Farrah before Debra, and am going to link it here while I keep searching. That article was on Radar and said they couldn't find any tweet from him to Farrah. I suppose he could have deleted it. Yes, @druzy posted this before, I believe. I believe Simon as I do with some of the other things he has tweeted. It would be nice if Farrah would just blurt this shit out on the show or at least on the Marriage Boot Camp show. It would then explain why she is the way she is to him. I am now recalling the guy you are referencing in Florida. Edited June 26, 2017 by GreatKazu 7 Link to comment
AmyFarrahFowler June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 ROFLMAO! 1 hour ago, Cabarb said: From the preview I saw, it doesn't even look like they rated the inside of the aquarium! It looks like they just got married out in the parking lot. I've seen comments that they got married so quickly and quietly just so she could visit him in rehab? For somebody who has more knowledge than I do, is that the way it works? Would she be barred from visiting unless they married? Not necessarily but you would need to be some type of significant other/family member. Usually you are required to attend classes and lectures (usually on a Saturday morning) before you are allowed to visit that afternoon or evening. I am wondering if it was for insurance purposes although it wouldn't seem at this point Mackenzie could afford any type of decent health insurance. 2 Link to comment
ginger90 June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 I still think they got married prior to rehab so that she could be his person, so to speak. Married trumps parents, if that's what he wanted , as far as information. 5 Link to comment
ghoulina June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 17 hours ago, LilaFowler said: Question for the group: do you think Farrah is a good mother? Nope. I do not think she's a very good mother at all. For a myriad of reasons. She is trying to force Sophia to grow up too quickly (waxing eyebrows, creating her own snapchat, wearing makeup to school.) She exposes her to incredibly toxic and inappropriate relationships. She is either really harsh on her or completely babying her. The child is stunted. Plus, I think she goes away a lot and leaves her behind. Which might be okay, if half the time she wasn't leaving her with batshit insane Debra. 16 Link to comment
GreatKazu June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 Quote if half the time she wasn't leaving her with batshit insane Debra. Especially after what Simon tweeted about Deb ignoring Sophia while she handles business in the basement with guys. Not sure if he means before Dr. David or now. Bad enough we know Debra wasn't watching Sophia back in Florida when she wasn't aware Sophia had painted the dog with nail polish. Simon tweeted about Deb hiring an attorney and trying to take Sophia away. Guess who jumped into the discussion? Jenelle: https://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2017/06/simon-saran-farrah-abrahams-mom-is-trying-to-steal-sophia-and-ba/ 2 Link to comment
athousandclowns June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, LilaFowler said: Question for the group: do you think Farrah is a good mother? Tough one. She plays kissy face ( non stop I love you) to her all the time on screen , but doesn't that get cancelled out by having her witness the verbal abuse of her parents ? Her bratty disrespectiful Intitled attitude has gone on too long. There's no way that child can grow up without taking on her mothers mode of operation , can't wait till she is 16 wow did not know the above GrateKazu Edited June 26, 2017 by athousandclowns 3 Link to comment
Christina June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 Can someone who is familiar with Farrah's area in Council Bluffs tell me the major colleges there or over in Nebraska. The man Farrah tried to get a restraining order on was a soccer player at a university and it was originally filed through the college police department, according to someone on Reddit. I've searched Pottawammie County websites but can't get the public records without paying and registering, and it looks like that may not even be the county I want to be searching. I have way too many tabs open searching at the moment and know that some of you know the area. 1 Link to comment
Christina June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 I need close out a bunch of tabs, so I'm going to start linking even though I haven't found the specific articles. I had forgotten until I read it, but Farrah dated a man named Jon Parra (? closed the tab already) who worked on a radio show with Ryan Seacrest. It ended poorly and he gave interviews about it, and so did she, but I didn't grab those. Farrah's neighbor who was her date on the show was named Adam. Hollywood life posted an article about the poor date, but it doesn't have any comments and doesn't give his last name. I'm still looking for the article with the comments from the man who was dating her and said that Adam was an actor and the date wasn't legitimate. It will probably be on Radar. grrrr. Radar has a short article about Farrah dating a man named Marcel Kamistein, who she wanted to fund a jewelry line, or something, I really can't tell because that site sucks and freezes. Alrighty, room for new searches. 1 Link to comment
GreatKazu June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Christina said: I need close out a bunch of tabs, so I'm going to start linking even though I haven't found the specific articles. I had forgotten until I read it, but Farrah dated a man named Jon Parra (? closed the tab already) who worked on a radio show with Ryan Seacrest. It ended poorly and he gave interviews about it, and so did she, but I didn't grab those. Farrah's neighbor who was her date on the show was named Adam. Hollywood life posted an article about the poor date, but it doesn't have any comments and doesn't give his last name. I'm still looking for the article with the comments from the man who was dating her and said that Adam was an actor and the date wasn't legitimate. It will probably be on Radar. grrrr. Radar has a short article about Farrah dating a man named Marcel Kamistein, who she wanted to fund a jewelry line, or something, I really can't tell because that site sucks and freezes. Alrighty, room for new searches. Jon is the guy in one of those video links I posted here yesterday, I believe. 1 Link to comment
ghoulina June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Christina said: Can someone who is familiar with Farrah's area in Council Bluffs tell me the major colleges there or over in Nebraska. The man Farrah tried to get a restraining order on was a soccer player at a university and it was originally filed through the college police department, according to someone on Reddit. I've searched Pottawammie County websites but can't get the public records without paying and registering, and it looks like that may not even be the county I want to be searching. I have way too many tabs open searching at the moment and know that some of you know the area. Council Bluffs is right over the river from Omaha, NE. It's quite likely he went to college there - UNO is the big one. University of Nebraska at Omaha. There's also Creighton University. Other than that, there's mostly just smaller or Christian or community colleges. CB doesn't really have anything of note - just Iowa Western, which is a community college. I'd think this guy probably went to UNO, or even more likely - Creighton. I don't follow sports stuff as strongly as others do around here, but I feel like Creighton boys end up in the news quite a bit for their untoward behavior. ETA - Both those colleges would be Douglas county, NE. Is this the story, Christina? http://www.nonpareilonline.com/news/council-bluffs-teen-mom-star-alleges-ex-hacked-her-twitter/article_c3a65d2d-f793-5c0b-951d-4e80b2043a45.html If so, it was UNO - not Creighton. Edited June 27, 2017 by ghoulina 1 Link to comment
TeenMomAngerMgmt June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 On 6/26/2017 at 0:52 PM, MissMel said: Good question. I don't know the answer. I've visited 2 rehabs and one detox. I wasn't married to any one of them. Only blood related to one of three people, as well. My gut reaction is that she's pregnant and they shotgunned the wedding and it has nothing to do with his health. I have no idea, though. I suspect they went to a rehab facility that's really heavy on Jesus. In that case, I can well imagine them having rules that no significant others can visit without being married. 3 Link to comment
Mambo Gladys June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 12 hours ago, Christina said: Can someone who is familiar with Farrah's area in Council Bluffs tell me the major colleges there or over in Nebraska. The man Farrah tried to get a restraining order on was a soccer player at a university and it was originally filed through the college police department, according to someone on Reddit. I've searched Pottawammie County websites but can't get the public records without paying and registering, and it looks like that may not even be the county I want to be searching. I have way too many tabs open searching at the moment and know that some of you know the area. Christina, it was in Douglas county, Nebraska. I've looked up the records before since I have access through work. It's rather uninteresting. It's just Farrah's handwritten petition for a protective order and it's full of Farrah " language. " the article linked above sums it up pretty well. And yes, he was on the UNO soccer team. 4 Link to comment
Jeanne222 June 29, 2017 Share June 29, 2017 I do remember Daniel. He was kind of a lame young man with way too much 'woman' in abusive Farrah. Strange how all these teen moms and their partners trash each other. If they were smart they would button up since it's their Bread and Butter but...carry on. lol Is Ryan in Rehab? He sure should be. Link to comment
GreatKazu June 30, 2017 Share June 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said: I do remember Daniel. He was kind of a lame young man with way too much 'woman' in abusive Farrah. Strange how all these teen moms and their partners trash each other. If they were smart they would button up since it's their Bread and Butter but...carry on. lol Is Ryan in Rehab? He sure should be. I found Daniel way out of Farrah's league. In other words, he could do much, much better than Farrah. He seemed way too nice for Farrah. Most guys would have thrown Farrah out of their car after the way she talked to his mother and family the way she did. 8 Link to comment
Christina July 1, 2017 Share July 1, 2017 On 6/27/2017 at 11:09 AM, ghoulina said: Is this the story, Christina? http://www.nonpareilonline.com/news/council-bluffs-teen-mom-star-alleges-ex-hacked-her-twitter/article_c3a65d2d-f793-5c0b-951d-4e80b2043a45.html If so, it was UNO - not Creighton. On 6/27/2017 at 3:16 PM, saratothej said: Christina, it was in Douglas county, Nebraska. I've looked up the records before since I have access through work. It's rather uninteresting. It's just Farrah's handwritten petition for a protective order and it's full of Farrah " language. " the article linked above sums it up pretty well. And yes, he was on the UNO soccer team. I had completely forgotten that I was searching for this. Probably got sidetracked by something shiny, or much more interesting than Farrah, which is practically everything. 2 Link to comment
ginger90 July 1, 2017 Share July 1, 2017 Now Debra has an album? https://mobile.twitter.com/ddanielsen/status/880829050415181824?p=v Debra has such a way with words (not album related) https://mobile.twitter.com/ddanielsen/status/880245963612401665?p=v 4 Link to comment
ginger90 July 1, 2017 Share July 1, 2017 Michael says https://mobile.twitter.com/ekimabraham/status/880937824215846912?p=v 1 Link to comment
SPLAIN July 1, 2017 Share July 1, 2017 (edited) Michael speaks out about Amber, and he discusses what Farrah told him after the finale show-down with Dr. David while confirming a tweet by Simon. I posted this same link on the Amber thread because she retweeted this article. Signs of her wanting a reconciliation with Farrah, perhaps? http://starcasm.net/archives/372577 An interview Michael gave back in May. I don't recall reading this before. If it was posted before, I apologize. He discusses Amber and Matt and the feud with Farrah as well as Matt being responsible for damaging "government property" (his hearing aids): http://starcasm.net/archives/369144 Edited July 1, 2017 by SPLAIN Link to comment
ReadMeLattice July 2, 2017 Share July 2, 2017 I wouldn't say Farrah is mother of the year but I don't think Sophia is in any danger or being abused or neglected (unfortunately that's our standard here). I think she does many things wrong as a parent (being overly materialistic, exposing her to the toxic relationship with her mom, etc) but overall I would personally class her as "ok." Certainly worlds better than Amber and Cate/Ty, and not having oops babies and binge drinking while pregnant like Maci. Something is incredibly, disgustingly creepy with the Doc. The tweeting thing makes sense. Debra has always seemed unhinged to me-- all the faux religiosity and crazy eyes since 16&P, and there were vague rumors that Farrah was molested and Debra did nothing about it, which could be 100% unfounded but which frankly wouldn't surprise me, and would explain a lot about their relationship. Either way, screaming more than once about your (not real) suicidal ideation in front of your granddaughter is pretty off the rails. 7 Link to comment
GreatKazu July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 (edited) Farrah has behaved just like, if not worse, than Deb is currently behaving - the over-the-top dramatics, the fake tears, the yelling, Farrah never yelled about committing suicide on camera, but her hysterics were (still are?) just like Deb's. Unless I missed something, I never really got the feeling there was molestation going on by any family members or boyfriends of Deb's. Farrah mentioned physical abuse, but nothing else. Something could have been alluded, I just don't remember with all that has happened and been claimed over the years. I have always given Farrah the side-eye when it comes to her version of events. She hasn't always been forthright or honest. She has downright lied. Something she has in common with Maci. She was also arrested for DUI. I hope those drinking days are behind her. Gotta admit, no trap babies, no marriages, divorces, so that is a plus. Edited July 3, 2017 by GreatKazu 8 Link to comment
Maharincess July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 On 6/29/2017 at 5:51 PM, GreatKazu said: I found Daniel way out of Farrah's league. In other words, he could do much, much better than Farrah. He seemed way too nice for Farrah. Most guys would have thrown Farrah out of their car after the way she talked to his mother and family the way she did. I'll never forget her calling Daniel's step mom a lone bird because she had no kids of her own and would grow old alone. 3 Link to comment
ReadMeLattice July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Maharincess said: I'll never forget her calling Daniel's step mom a lone bird because she had no kids of her own and would grow old alone. I am really confused about that phrase still. Did she mix up lone wolf and odd bird? Lol. 5 Link to comment
GreatKazu July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Lm2162 said: I am really confused about that phrase still. Did she mix up lone wolf and odd bird? Lol. Lone Bird is a story. This is likely what Farrah was referring to when she said that to Daniel's mom: http://www.uexpress.com/tell-me-a-story/2002/6/9/lone-bird-a-chippewa-tale Edited July 3, 2017 by GreatKazu Link to comment
ReadMeLattice July 3, 2017 Share July 3, 2017 On 6/30/2017 at 6:15 PM, ginger90 said: Now Debra has an album? https://mobile.twitter.com/ddanielsen/status/880829050415181824?p=v Debra has such a way with words (not album related) https://mobile.twitter.com/ddanielsen/status/880245963612401665?p=v An album?!?!?! Who keeps telling these people they can write books and make art?!?! 4 Link to comment
Yolo July 4, 2017 Share July 4, 2017 (edited) On 6/25/2017 at 10:16 PM, LilaFowler said: It was an epic fail of a trip. I think Sophia has met many, many men. Farrah always rushes that part. Question for the group: do you think Farrah is a good mother? I think Farrah thinks that she is a good mom. On the outside looking in it appears that she doesn't have 1 clue, let alone 2. Sophia will be just like Farrah if not worse, she's already too grown!! IMO Edited July 4, 2017 by Yolo 1 Link to comment
Polliwollidoodle July 5, 2017 Share July 5, 2017 I think one of the worst things Farrah (and Debra ) does is the non stop arguing with her mom. I get that they are going to argue but they go over the top and it's usually not appropriate for a child's ears. I don't think a child should be sheltered 100% from arguments but these are just not child appropriate I think also that in trying to be matter of act and open, Farrah also exposes Sofia too troubling things. I still remember a year or two ago Farrah was working at a gentleman's club and she was wearing a very scanty outfit at home before she left. Sofia was teasing her about her butt showing. Yes that is most inappropriate. (and wearing make up to school and arguing with teh school about that for a 7 year old). I really feel bad for Sofa because she has definitely been involved in stuff that a child her age should not be matter of fact about. I do think Farrah takes reasonable care of her and definitely is loving to her (at least when the camera is on). 7 Link to comment
ghoulina July 5, 2017 Share July 5, 2017 I worry for Sophia, because Farrah doesn't appear to have any boundaries or awareness when it comes to what is appropriate for a small child. She thinks it's perfectly fine to give the child her own Twitter and Snapchat accounts and have her sending messages to her "fans". Lord knows what kind of creeps she is exposing the child to. 10 Link to comment
teapot July 5, 2017 Share July 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, ghoulina said: I worry for Sophia, because Farrah doesn't appear to have any boundaries or awareness when it comes to what is appropriate for a small child. She thinks it's perfectly fine to give the child her own Twitter and Snapchat accounts and have her sending messages to her "fans". Lord knows what kind of creeps she is exposing the child to. oh, but when you "expose" yourself to strange men, they give you money and things...it's all about survival according to Farrah!!! 5 Link to comment
ginger90 July 5, 2017 Share July 5, 2017 Suga momma ?????? Does anyone believe this is an actual picture of Debra? https://mobile.twitter.com/jdandgmusic/status/882333279390760961?p=v 4 Link to comment
GreatKazu July 6, 2017 Share July 6, 2017 3 hours ago, ginger90 said: Suga momma ?????? Does anyone believe this is an actual picture of Debra? https://mobile.twitter.com/jdandgmusic/status/882333279390760961?p=v Deb is using the Amber filter. 4 Link to comment
ReadMeLattice July 6, 2017 Share July 6, 2017 4 hours ago, ginger90 said: Suga momma ?????? Does anyone believe this is an actual picture of Debra? https://mobile.twitter.com/jdandgmusic/status/882333279390760961?p=v .............. OH MY GOD. 1 Link to comment
ginger90 July 6, 2017 Share July 6, 2017 How much is Debra paying for this nonsense? https://www.instagram.com/p/BV3amdYgtCi/?taken-by=jdandgmusic 4 Link to comment
Mambo Gladys July 6, 2017 Share July 6, 2017 How the hell is Deb a "suga momma"? She has the old part right, but other than that? She doesn't date younger men and is presumably not exactly rich since she's had to borrow cash from Farrah. 6 Link to comment
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