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12 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

That friend in the backseat had a "shut the hell up" look on her face the entire time. I was watching her more than Maci!

She sure does. haha

That scene is so scripted. I noticed a Starbucks cup suddenly appears in the hands of her backseat-have-no-fucks-to-give friend. At one point the camera pans on her and she only has her phone in her hands. Then next scene shows it in her hands. After that, you see the cup in the holder by Maci's elbow. Shoddy editing MTV. Did you have Maci go through her lines again because it wasn't compelling enough? 

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I think MTV hopes their viewers are high so they don't notice the obvious scripted and bad editing they have on this show, particularly with Maci's scenes. 

At this point, it should be a requirement that one watches the show while high or drunk.  Being drunk would be the only way to get through Maci's fake storylines. 

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Wow, Maci really looks awful in that scene. Just haggard. Maci, seriously, put down the beer and cigarettes.  Drink some water. Take some vitamins. You're TWENTY SIX. You should not look this way.

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5 hours ago, Tatum said:

Wow, Maci really looks awful in that scene. Just haggard. Maci, seriously, put down the beer and cigarettes.  Drink some water. Take some vitamins. You're TWENTY SIX. You should not look this way.

And sunscreen!  And safe-sun practices, like not being out in the sun for prolonged periods time between 10am-2pm, not visiting tanning beds, etc.  Accept your fair skin & the safe-sun requirements it comes with, Maci.  I know as someone with very fair skin myself, it sucks, but it is what it is. It's not just looking older you have to worry about - it's melanoma. #whitegirlproblems

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She really does look haggard. All that alcohol is wearing her down. She was not looking good either at Ryan's wedding. That dress she wore was pretty if it was worn by someone else. All her nasty tattoos were exposed. She looked like a group of taggers sprayed their graffiti all over her. 

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19 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

Tanning beds are out now its spray tanning. I did it once for my daughters wedding. What an orange mess. It wears off on clothing and unevenly off your body. Think UBT

Mystic Tan/VersaSpa are a popular alternative. They’re booths that spray you with self tanner that takes a few hours to work. You can add in optional bronzer, but otherwise it’s not too messy. 

I'm as fair as Maci (maybe more translucent) and it works okay on me. Not too orange although everything goes a bit orange when your skin tone is so pink it’s kinda blue... 

Not sure if Maci or Mackenzie uses those but they’re definitely a good way to avoid sun damage and also all the nasty comments people feel so free to make about “pasty” “ghost” skin “blinding” them. (Did our slight progress in the treatment of WOC create a vacuum where we have to transfer the criticism of skin color to pale women rather than just be rid of it altogether?!)

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A Teen Mom star is heading out to the wilderness…in her birthday suit!

The Ashley can exclusively confirm that Maci Bookout, who stars on Teen Mom OG, will appear on a special “Celebrity” edition of the Discovery Channel reality show Naked and Afraid!

Multiple sources have confirmed to The Ashley that Maci has already shot the episode of the show, which places people out in the wilderness and forces them to fend for themselves against the elements, all while being naked. 

“Maci spent a great deal of time training for the show before she left,” one source tells The Ashley. “She got to bring a few extra ‘personal’ items than the typical contestant on the show, but other than that, she didn’t get a lot of special treatment.”

The Ashley’s sources tell her that Maci kept things extremely hush-hush, and that most of the other ‘Teen Mom’ cast members didn’t even know she was filming for the new show. Her contract for ‘Teen Mom OG’ was not affected.

“Because this show has nothing to do with Maci’s life as a teen parent, it was not a problem for her to do it,” another source tells The Ashley. “It doesn’t matter that it’s not a Viacom-owned show.”

The Ashley will have more info on this soon, so stay tuned!

A rep for Maci had “no comment” when asked by The Ashley.

 

“Because this show has nothing to do with Maci’s life as a teen parent, it was not a problem for her to do it,” another source tells The Ashley. “It doesn’t matter that it’s not a Viacom-owned show.”

Farrah's porn had nothing to do with Farrah's life as a teen parent.

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18 hours ago, druzy said:

 

“Because this show has nothing to do with Maci’s life as a teen parent, it was not a problem for her to do it,” another source tells The Ashley. “It doesn’t matter that it’s not a Viacom-owned show.”

Farrah's porn had nothing to do with Farrah's life as a teen parent.

 

You took the words right out of my mouth. 

"Maci's life as a teen parent" - She is an adult now. She acts like a teenager, but she is not a teen. 

On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 5:47 AM, JocelynCavanaugh said:

Not sure if Maci or Mackenzie uses those but they’re definitely a good way to avoid sun damage and also all the nasty comments people feel so free to make about “pasty” “ghost” skin “blinding” them. (Did our slight progress in the treatment of WOC create a vacuum where we have to transfer the criticism of skin color to pale women rather than just be rid of it altogether?!)

I don't think I have seen Maci not look orange or have some sort of tan spray on her. Her facial skin has never really been healthy. Her acne has been an issue from time to time. She either has too much make-up on or too much orange spray tan which doesn't help the acne problem. The few times she wasn't wearing make-up, she at least looked healthy. This recent episode showed her looking haggard. Maci is a drinker and a smoker. Her health can cause her to look terrible in the face which can happen to anyone regardless of their skin shade. 

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1 hour ago, druzy said:

 

“Because this show has nothing to do with Maci’s life as a teen parent, it was not a problem for her to do it,” another source tells The Ashley. “It doesn’t matter that it’s not a Viacom-owned show.”

Farrah's porn had nothing to do with Farrah's life as a teen parent.

 

So....Maci can be naked on TV as long as her naughty bits are censored (since it's network cable and all) and she isn't actually having sex on camera. But Farrah who was naked in videos one has to (hypothetically) purchase (rather than a kid turning the channel on it and seeing it accidentally, like on Discovery Channel) and has sex (and having sex is what got all these girls on TM in the first place) is not okay.

Whatever.  Saint Maci of Bud Light, suffering through alcohol withdrawal PCOS while naked (despite her moral objection to pornography) is going to sacrifice so much to leave her kids (even though she's like totally such a good mom who only wants the best for her kids!) for a few weeks to be naked on TV and get paid for it.  Such a martyr, that one. 

Maci's mom & Mimi Jen better clear their calendars.  They have some more baby raising to do (as if they and daycare haven't done the bulk of it since at least Jayde was born). 

I'm sure Bentley is just sooo proud of his mom and his friends at school aren't going to make fun of him or anything.... /sarcasm

PS Maci- one day the uncensored version of that show - and your appearance in it - will indeed leak on the internet. I can almost guarantee it.  Farrah will be laughing then because she at least 1) managed to be nude on camera with lots of body make-up/the right lighting & angles to make her look her best while nude; 2) she made some money off of it/managed to spin it off into making more money by selling her molds, appearing at conventions, doing cam work, etc, and 3) her body isn't disfigured by all of those awful tattoos (and wasn't too disfigured from plastic surgery when she made that film).  Poor Bentley. His friends are going to be able to tell him exactly where all of his mom's ugly tats are on her body. 

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1 hour ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

So....Maci can be naked on TV as long as her naughty bits are censored (since it's network cable and all) and she isn't actually having sex on camera. But Farrah who was naked in videos one has to (hypothetically) purchase (rather than a kid turning the channel on it and seeing it accidentally, like on Discovery Channel) and has sex (and having sex is what got all these girls on TM in the first place) is not okay.

Whatever.  Saint Maci of Bud Light, suffering through alcohol withdrawal PCOS while naked (despite her moral objection to pornography) is going to sacrifice so much to leave her kids (even though she's like totally such a good mom who only wants the best for her kids!) for a few weeks to be naked on TV and get paid for it.  Such a martyr, that one. 

Maci's mom & Mimi Jen better clear their calendars.  They have some more baby raising to do (as if they and daycare haven't done the bulk of it since at least Jayde was born). 

I'm sure Bentley is just sooo proud of his mom and his friends at school aren't going to make fun of him or anything.... /sarcasm

PS Maci- one day the uncensored version of that show - and your appearance in it - will indeed leak on the internet. I can almost guarantee it.  Farrah will be laughing then because she at least 1) managed to be nude on camera with lots of body make-up/the right lighting & angles to make her look her best while nude; 2) she made some money off of it/managed to spin it off into making more money by selling her molds, appearing at conventions, doing cam work, etc, and 3) her body isn't disfigured by all of those awful tattoos (and wasn't too disfigured from plastic surgery when she made that film).  Poor Bentley. His friends are going to be able to tell him exactly where all of his mom's ugly tats are on her body. 

Nuff said.

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36 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

Filmed nudity doesn’t equal pornography. It’s the explicit lascivious camera close ups of ass to mouth stuff etc that made Farrah's hardcore porno a porno. 

I agree.  I don't like Maci really.  There is a difference between being nude in a wilderness/survival situation and being nude and taking anal while a camera lense is zoomed between your sprawled legs. 

I have read before that N&A provides tampons to female contestants when necessary so as to not invite vicious animals...

https://screenrant.com/secrets-producers-dont-want-to-know-about-naked-and-afraid/

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NAKED AND AFRAID is my family's favorite TV show and the only one that we all watch all together. I hate that Maci's skinny little ass is going to taint that enjoyment. 

And speaking of skinny...

Super thin people tend not to do very well on the show. A lot of women started losing weight before they went on it, thinking that they had to look "good" for TV. However, that loss of body fat did them more harm than good. Starvation on the show is a very real thing and though producers DO give them some stuff that we don't see (tampons for the women, any regular medication that they might be on and a tiny amount of water in which to drink it with), the show is about as "real" as reality TV gets. I personally know two contestants who have been on the show and they are both super-extreme outdoorsman. They've talked about the challenges of the show and, apparently, it's legit. They say that it's actually much harder than it looks. Steven, one of my friends, went into it thinking that it was like DUAL SURVIVAL-that, at the end of the day, they'd go back to their hotel rooms and have dinner. Nope. They truly are stuck out there without food or water and the only way they can receive assistance from producers is if there is an injury. Everyone loses weight on the show, some have major weight loss and body fat loss. The contestants who have been on there before know this; when they return for the "all star" shows, they pack on the pounds. 

I would LOVE to do this show but, because of my health, I am not qualified. I keep hoping that they'll have some kind of "disability" version where they open it up to people like myself. It's kind of a dream of mine to do it. It sucks that Maci can. 

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17 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

I'm sure Bentley is just sooo proud of his mom and his friends at school aren't going to make fun of him or anything.... /sarcasm

 

 

I know right? Guess Maci's pocket tshirt empire isn't doing so well if she's forced to run through the wilderness naked in order to bring home a paycheck. When is Taylor's useless ass going to do something that makes some money?

 

ETA: I honestly don't know what would be less appealing to me- doing anal porn or spending 21 days naked in the wilderness. Seriously, I would have such a hard time deciding which one would be worse. But I bet Amber and Cate would take the backdoor porn because at least they could do it laying down.

 

So, should we assume Maci lasted the 21 days? Because if she did, I can grudgingly respect that.

 

ETA again: The casting requirements are pretty strict, and they want people to know what they're doing before they'll turn them loose (according to an article I just read, you have to demonstrate that you know how to start a fire, how to find water, etc). I would bet this "Celebrity" version of N&A is probably watered down considerably.

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27 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

NAKED AND AFRAID is my family's favorite TV show and the only one that we all watch all together. I hate that Maci's skinny little ass is going to taint that enjoyment. 

And speaking of skinny...

Super thin people tend not to do very well on the show. A lot of women started losing weight before they went on it, thinking that they had to look "good" for TV. However, that loss of body fat did them more harm than good. Starvation on the show is a very real thing and though producers DO give them some stuff that we don't see (tampons for the women, any regular medication that they might be on and a tiny amount of water in which to drink it with), the show is about as "real" as reality TV gets. I personally know two contestants who have been on the show and they are both super-extreme outdoorsman. They've talked about the challenges of the show and, apparently, it's legit. They say that it's actually much harder than it looks. Steven, one of my friends, went into it thinking that it was like DUAL SURVIVAL-that, at the end of the day, they'd go back to their hotel rooms and have dinner. Nope. They truly are stuck out there without food or water and the only way they can receive assistance from producers is if there is an injury. Everyone loses weight on the show, some have major weight loss and body fat loss. The contestants who have been on there before know this; when they return for the "all star" shows, they pack on the pounds. 

I would LOVE to do this show but, because of my health, I am not qualified. I keep hoping that they'll have some kind of "disability" version where they open it up to people like myself. It's kind of a dream of mine to do it. It sucks that Maci can. 

I love all your insider info!  Thanks for sharing. 

I've only ever watched it if we were staying in hotels or motels that had limited cable channels.  Do you ever think the naked aspect of the show is unnecessary?  I wondered why they don't just give them at least a flesh colored small swimsuit.  They have to blur out parts that would be covered by such garments anyway.

I can see where having some extra body fat would be a huge bonus.

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54 minutes ago, AirQuotes said:

I agree.  I don't like Maci really.  There is a difference between being nude in a wilderness/survival situation and being nude and taking anal while a camera lense is zoomed between your sprawled legs. 

I have read before that N&A provides tampons to female contestants when necessary so as to not invite vicious animals...

https://screenrant.com/secrets-producers-dont-want-to-know-about-naked-and-afraid/

There is a difference between having a period and what Maci described to her friends. When I had my own issues, wearing a tampon AND a pad wasn't enough when I was experiencing Niagra Falls-type period for weeks on end. Maci described having periods that were heavy, painful, and would last for weeks on end. Just going by what she claimed, and knowing exactly what that kind of period is like, there is no way a stint on that reality show and wearing a tampon will be sufficient. How will she handle her painful and heavy periods while out filming a show that requires her to be naked? Will it be so convenient that her weeks-long periods won't happen while filming? My sarcasm is not directed at you, by the way. I am being sarcastic because it all goes back to my belief that Maci is not being honest about her PCOS issues.  Maci will fit right in with N&A since the show is scripted. 

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11 minutes ago, AirQuotes said:

I love all your insider info!  Thanks for sharing. 

I've only ever watched it if we were staying in hotels or motels that had limited cable channels.  Do you ever think the naked aspect of the show is unnecessary?  I wondered why they don't just give them at least a flesh colored small swimsuit.  They have to blur out parts that would be covered by such garments anyway.

I can see where having some extra body fat would be a huge bonus.

I actually like the "naked" aspect. It's not just the challenge of not wearing clothes-it's the added challenge of not being able to use that material for anything. 

If I had a flesh-colored swimsuit, for instance, then I could do the following:

- tear it apart and use it for a bandage

- make cordage of it for fishing lines

- rip it up for the nylon in the use of makeshift shoes (ie. using it to tie leaves around my feet to protect them)

- use it for cordage for tying key pieces of my shelter together

- use it for setting certain kinds of traps

- depending on the material, it could even be used as a firestarter

Starting them from scratch, naked, isn't so much about titillation, it's about giving them very little leverage right from the start. I love it. :-)

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20 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

So....Maci can be naked on TV as long as her naughty bits are censored (since it's network cable and all) and she isn't actually having sex on camera. But Farrah who was naked in videos one has to (hypothetically) purchase (rather than a kid turning the channel on it and seeing it accidentally, like on Discovery Channel) and has sex (and having sex is what got all these girls on TM in the first place) is not okay.

Whatever.  Saint Maci of Bud Light, suffering through alcohol withdrawal PCOS while naked (despite her moral objection to pornography) is going to sacrifice so much to leave her kids (even though she's like totally such a good mom who only wants the best for her kids!) for a few weeks to be naked on TV and get paid for it.  Such a martyr, that one. 

Maci's mom & Mimi Jen better clear their calendars.  They have some more baby raising to do (as if they and daycare haven't done the bulk of it since at least Jayde was born). 

I'm sure Bentley is just sooo proud of his mom and his friends at school aren't going to make fun of him or anything.... /sarcasm

PS Maci- one day the uncensored version of that show - and your appearance in it - will indeed leak on the internet. I can almost guarantee it.  Farrah will be laughing then because she at least 1) managed to be nude on camera with lots of body make-up/the right lighting & angles to make her look her best while nude; 2) she made some money off of it/managed to spin it off into making more money by selling her molds, appearing at conventions, doing cam work, etc, and 3) her body isn't disfigured by all of those awful tattoos (and wasn't too disfigured from plastic surgery when she made that film).  Poor Bentley. His friends are going to be able to tell him exactly where all of his mom's ugly tats are on her body. 

Yeah. I agree of course that they aren't exactly the same, but it's not just her comments about Farrah that annoy me, it was her "ohhh and my grandma can't see me not being married with multiple kids" and "honest woman" crap. Girl had, what, 3 pregnancies before an engagement? With more than one dad? And is on shows about it and also being naked on TV? And pimping out her baby daddy's addiction for a storyline? And twerking and getting trashed for social media and reality television?

It's not so much that porn is the exact same as nudity, but for someone who plays it *so* saintly and queenlike, she sure does do a LOT of stuff that most people wouldn't do. Yet she pretends like she's this aw-shucks homegrown Southern girl who was raised in church. Dude, no, you're a reality TV personality who gets drunk a lot and can't use birth control. I don't really care and it's not like that's horrible or Farrah's porn is awesome and laudable...it's just the hypocrisy and the pearl-clutching that get to me. 

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2 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

Yeah. I agree of course that they aren't exactly the same, but it's not just her comments about Farrah that annoy me, it was her "ohhh and my grandma can't see me not being married with multiple kids" and "honest woman" crap. Girl had, what, 3 pregnancies before an engagement? With more than one dad? And is on shows about it and also being naked on TV? And pimping out her baby daddy's addiction for a storyline? And twerking and getting trashed for social media and reality television?

It's not so much that porn is the exact same as nudity, but for someone who plays it *so* saintly and queenlike, she sure does do a LOT of stuff that most people wouldn't do. Yet she pretends like she's this aw-shucks homegrown Southern girl who was raised in church. Dude, no, you're a reality TV personality who gets drunk a lot and can't use birth control. I don't really care and it's not like that's horrible or Farrah's porn is awesome and laudable...it's just the hypocrisy and the pearl-clutching that get to me. 

Right.  You said this better than I could. Thanks. I know it's not the same it's just the faux-morality that's grating, I guess. 

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3 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

Yeah. I agree of course that they aren't exactly the same, but it's not just her comments about Farrah that annoy me, it was her "ohhh and my grandma can't see me not being married with multiple kids" and "honest woman" crap. Girl had, what, 3 pregnancies before an engagement? With more than one dad? And is on shows about it and also being naked on TV? And pimping out her baby daddy's addiction for a storyline? And twerking and getting trashed for social media and reality television?

It's not so much that porn is the exact same as nudity, but for someone who plays it *so* saintly and queenlike, she sure does do a LOT of stuff that most people wouldn't do. Yet she pretends like she's this aw-shucks homegrown Southern girl who was raised in church. Dude, no, you're a reality TV personality who gets drunk a lot and can't use birth control. I don't really care and it's not like that's horrible or Farrah's porn is awesome and laudable...it's just the hypocrisy and the pearl-clutching that get to me. 

I think, in the case of "My grandma wouldn't want me to have three kids out of wedlock" shtick, wasn't to seem traditional or old fashioned, but rather to obliquely pressure Taylor to marry her while holding on to her "cool girl" vibe she tries to so desperately to convey. Maci doesn't care if she's married, no, she's not one of those girls desperately wanting a ring and relentlessly badgering every boyfriend she has, no, it's just that her poor frail grandmother  wants this, and who is Maci to deny her? She's totally cool and laidback, y'all, she's just trying to make an old woman happy.

 

I think Maci got enough backlash over her comments on Farrah (I'll say, production really hung her out to dry on that one. Even as a non Maci fan, I can concede that was pretty shitty), that Maci has learned a thing or two about throwing stones.

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Just now, Tatum said:

I think, in the case of "My grandma wouldn't want me to have three kids out of wedlock" shtick, wasn't to seem traditional or old fashioned, but rather to obliquely pressure Taylor to marry her while holding on to her "cool girl" vibe she tries to so desperately to convey. Maci doesn't care if she's married, no, she's not one of those girls desperately wanting a ring and relentlessly badgering every boyfriend she has, no, it's just that her poor frail grandmother  wants this, and who is Maci to deny her? She's totally cool and laidback, y'all, she's just trying to make an old woman happy.

 

This is a good point, too. She seems like one of those women who says they 'don't like other girls' because 'they're too much drama' so she only has guy friends.

They always seem to be the most dramatic of all.

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20 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

Yeah. I agree of course that they aren't exactly the same, but it's not just her comments about Farrah that annoy me, it was her "ohhh and my grandma can't see me not being married with multiple kids" and "honest woman" crap. Girl had, what, 3 pregnancies before an engagement? With more than one dad? And is on shows about it and also being naked on TV? And pimping out her baby daddy's addiction for a storyline? And twerking and getting trashed for social media and reality television?

It's not so much that porn is the exact same as nudity, but for someone who plays it *so* saintly and queenlike, she sure does do a LOT of stuff that most people wouldn't do. Yet she pretends like she's this aw-shucks homegrown Southern girl who was raised in church. Dude, no, you're a reality TV personality who gets drunk a lot and can't use birth control. I don't really care and it's not like that's horrible or Farrah's porn is awesome and laudable...it's just the hypocrisy and the pearl-clutching that get to me. 

Don't forget how she was all over that stripper in Vegas while she was drunk and of course, the drinking while pregnant. 

Again, I agree entirely with your post which just added to @MyPeopleAreNordic's fabulous post. You clarified it isn't that porn is seen on the same level as Maci being naked on a show. We got what MyPeopleAreNordic was conveying in her post. We have said this over and over about Maci - her hypocrisy, pearl-clutching, and "my shit don't stink" attitude is what is eye-rolling and what brings on the snark towards her.  

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I am not sure I understand...why would someone want to go out in the wilderness naked?  Was it just a way for the show to be a different type of wilderness show?  

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5 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

This is a good point, too. She seems like one of those women who says they 'don't like other girls' because 'they're too much drama' so she only has guy friends.

They always seem to be the most dramatic of all.

I HATE that! Anytime a girl says anything akin to that, we can conclude she's an asshole. It's one thing if say, you have a job or hobbies more traditionally held by men, then sure, you'll likely find yourself with mostly guy friends. But when someone dismisses 50% of the population as being "drama"? What she really means is, I can only relate to other women as competition for attention from men, so therefore I prefer to surround myself with as minimal competition as possible, while badmouthing all women for having a trait of which I, alone, am an exception.

1 minute ago, alexa said:

I am not sure I understand...why would someone want to go out in the wilderness naked?  Was it just a way for the show to be a different type of wilderness show?  

Mamadrama explained it a little above. Having clothes would give people resources (making bandaids, fishing devices, etc) they are supposed to find in the wilderness. Clothes are seen as providing more advantages than just not being naked.

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1 minute ago, alexa said:

I am not sure I understand...why would someone want to go out in the wilderness naked?  Was it just a way for the show to be a different type of wilderness show?  

It's a survival show. As I posted above, clothing not only offers an extra layer of protection (from bugs, the elements, etc.) but also provides users with an array of survival tools: cordage, fishing lines, fabric for trap setting, etc. Going out in the wilderness without any tools is one thing. Going out naked, however, literally strips you of everything but your wits. (And your hair, which I would also use to my advantage.) I would totally do it. I WANT to do it, in fact, but I can't. 

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15 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

It's a survival show. As I posted above, clothing not only offers an extra layer of protection (from bugs, the elements, etc.) but also provides users with an array of survival tools: cordage, fishing lines, fabric for trap setting, etc. Going out in the wilderness without any tools is one thing. Going out naked, however, literally strips you of everything but your wits. (And your hair, which I would also use to my advantage.) I would totally do it. I WANT to do it, in fact, but I can't. 

Thanks.  I get it but I don't get it... I guess because very few people would actually be stuck out in the wilderness naked.  But hey, I get that it could appeal to some.  Wish you could do it :-)

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5 hours ago, AirQuotes said:

I love all your insider info!  Thanks for sharing. 

I've only ever watched it if we were staying in hotels or motels that had limited cable channels.  Do you ever think the naked aspect of the show is unnecessary?  I wondered why they don't just give them at least a flesh colored small swimsuit.  They have to blur out parts that would be covered by such garments anyway.

I can see where having some extra body fat would be a huge bonus.

I LOVE N&A. My family watches together like mamadrama. I do think the naked part is unnecessary; they just do it for the titillation factor. I think it would be fine if they just left them in a tank top and a pair of shorts; I don't think it would change the show much. Even a bathing suit. 

I don't think Maci doing N&A is the same as Farrah doing porn. They pixilate you on the former, and the show is educational in a way. Porn is just....porn. So I don't necessarily see any hypocrisy there. Where I DO see hypocrisy is the fact that on many MTV shows people are shown having sex, under the covers, but moans mic'd. They show some pretty raunchy stuff on their shows. I am not a fan of the adult industry; and I don't care what's legal and what's not. That has never shaped my viewpoint. But for MTV to try and take some moral stand on ANYTHING is just stupid. 

They would have been better leaving it as a personality issue, that she's difficult to work with. 

 

I wonder what other "celebs" are going to be on this N&A. Maci is likely not going to do well. Size does matter. She has nothing to lose. But, once thing even my husband notices almost every time - the girls generally handle it better, psychologically, than the guys. 

2 hours ago, alexa said:

Thanks.  I get it but I don't get it... I guess because very few people would actually be stuck out in the wilderness naked.  But hey, I get that it could appeal to some.  Wish you could do it :-)

THIS is what I keep saying to my husband. If it's a Survival show, based on the premises that you ended up stranded in some wilderness, WHY would you be naked??? No one is just hiking naked, or driving around naked and their car dies. It just seems to extra to me. I love the show, but I will fight on that aspect to my grave! HAHA

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I don't think Maci doing N&A is the same as Farrah doing porn. They pixilate you on the former, and the show is educational in a way

I agree it’s not the same.

It will be altered to be shown, but the original will still exist. I am surprised Maci is doing it.

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1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

 

THIS is what I keep saying to my husband. If it's a Survival show, based on the premises that you ended up stranded in some wilderness, WHY would you be naked??? No one is just hiking naked, or driving around naked and their car dies. It just seems to extra to me. I love the show, but I will fight on that aspect to my grave! HAHA

For me the naked part is what makes it challenging. I've done survivalist challenges in which I've been put out in the woods with nothing but a firestarter or a knife but I've never REALLY felt challenged because I could rely on the fabric of my clothes for so much.The fabric protecting my hoo-ha (if nothing else) from the bugs, being able to whip off my top and use it for a fishing net, unthreading my jeans to use the strings for a fishing line, using my tank top to tie a hammock into place to keep me up off the ground, etc. I've never been without those things to fall back on. I have definitely stripped down to my underwear, but it's because I was using those articles of clothing for something else. I once caught a rabbit using the bottom half of my tank top and my bra.  I'd like to give it a try totally naked but I'd need someone to MAKE me do it. Like, I'm not just going to go out into the woods and strip completely nude without holding onto those items for something. I'd need someone holding some incentive over my head and even though there's no prize at the end of N&A, it's a public challenge that I'd feel psychologically forced to go through with. I belong to a few survivalist groups and we talk about this quite a bit. Just having the extra pressure of having to MAKE clothing and protective layers on top of having to make shelter and fire sounds like a lot of fun to most of us. :-)

The women do tend to do better psychologically, the same way that the men who come in, strut around, and proclaim that it will be easy because they're military always have a hard time. 

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5 hours ago, Lm2162 said:

This is a good point, too. She seems like one of those women who says they 'don't like other girls' because 'they're too much drama' so she only has guy friends.

They always seem to be the most dramatic of all.

Sooo agree with that.  

Am I the only one who actually read that in my mind as "dramastic?"  It is almost like the real word has been REPLACED with the non-word in my mind!  

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1 hour ago, mamadrama said:

I once caught a rabbit using the bottom half of my tank top and my bra.  I'd like to give it a try totally naked but I'd need someone to MAKE me do it. Like, I'm not just going to go out into the woods and strip completely nude without holding onto those items for something. I'd need someone holding some incentive over my head and even though there's no prize at the end of N&A, it's a public challenge that I'd feel psychologically forced to go through with.

You are Wonder Woman! 

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12 minutes ago, druzy said:

You are Wonder Woman! 

Ha ha, I come by it honestly. Mom met Dad when he worked for the road department. It had stormed really bad and she needed to get home but the road was flooded. They weren't letting people across. Nana was home alone, though, without any power and Mom was worried. Dad was meant to be stopping people from driving across the road. He felt so bad for her than he ran home, got his canoe, and took her all the way to her house. On their first date, they were driving down the road when he suddenly came to a stop. There was a rattle snake in the middle of the road. He got out, picked up a rock, killed it, took it home, and made her a belt. 

(On another totally OT note, they've been divorced for 37 years yet they still send each other dirty birthday cards every year.)

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2 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Ha ha, I come by it honestly. Mom met Dad when he worked for the road department. It had stormed really bad and she needed to get home but the road was flooded. They weren't letting people across. Nana was home alone, though, without any power and Mom was worried. Dad was meant to be stopping people from driving across the road. He felt so bad for her than he ran home, got his canoe, and took her all the way to her house. On their first date, they were driving down the road when he suddenly came to a stop. There was a rattle snake in the middle of the road. He got out, picked up a rock, killed it, took it home, and made her a belt. 

(On another totally OT note, they've been divorced for 37 years yet they still send each other dirty birthday cards every year.)

That's amazing! You need to write an autobiography, you have such a fascinating life. Where I live, if someone ran through the streets with a canoe they would be arrested.

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On 3/6/2018 at 12:45 PM, mamadrama said:

It's a survival show. As I posted above, clothing not only offers an extra layer of protection (from bugs, the elements, etc.) but also provides users with an array of survival tools: cordage, fishing lines, fabric for trap setting, etc. Going out in the wilderness without any tools is one thing. Going out naked, however, literally strips you of everything but your wits. (And your hair, which I would also use to my advantage.) I would totally do it. I WANT to do it, in fact, but I can't. 

God bless you - it’s the last thing I’d ever want to do.

I’ve only watched the show with my nephews (8 and 10) - they love it. It seems pretty interesting and family friendly to me (have no kids though).

I certainly wouldn’t be watching Back Door Teen Mom with them (although Mr. DC has tried to show me bits - apparently you can find it for free - his commentary was priceless). I just got my sister over watching Law and Order with them (not SVU).

I get though with all Maci’s “issues” why the whole scenario is seen as problematic. I guess she needed an MTV storyline besides “Ryan is High”. Sweet baby Jesus is she boring...

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Radar recapped Maci's preview for this week and added:

...a source close to Bookout exclusively told Radar she lasted just three days surviving in the wilderness.

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20 minutes ago, druzy said:

Radar recapped Maci's preview for this week and added:

...a source close to Bookout exclusively told Radar she lasted just three days surviving in the wilderness.

Withdrawal from lack of alcohol will do that to you. #AA

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