Maci

[lexiexx]

I can't believe she got a things that matter tattoo.   That's hilarious 

[GreatKazu]

I am waiting for Maci to just get a massive tattoo of a Bud Light on her forehead. I mean, THAT is what matters. 

[Direwolf]

20 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I am waiting for Maci to just get a massive tattoo of a Bud Light on her forehead. I mean, THAT is what matters. 

Knowing Maci, she would get a tattoo of a Bud light can on her lower back with the beer pouring out down into her butt (buttchuggin'). Classy broad that Maci.  

[GreatKazu]

1 hour ago, Direwolf said:

Knowing Maci, she would get a tattoo of a Bud light can on her lower back with the beer pouring out down into her butt (buttchuggin'). Classy broad that Maci.  

Maci has no more room on her back due to that hideous and massive tattoo she has there.

[Direwolf]

5 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Maci has no more room on her back due to that hideous and massive tattoo she has there.

That's a shame. :) 

[GreatKazu]

Just now, Direwolf said:

That's a shame. :) 

lol 

Yeah, she has so much room on her forehead for several tats.

[GreatKazu]

Speaking of tats, why is it that our lady of ugly tattoos didn't throw a tantrum or threaten to quit filming the show when it became apparent Ryan was an addict? She sure didn't want to be on a show with Farrah because she made a porn tape. Big deal. Doing porn is legal. Buying illegal drugs to ingest is a crime.  Why didn't Maci tell the producers and the Edwards she refuses to film until Ryan is removed from the show or she will have to openly discuss the fact Ryan was an addict? Just the mere fact she continued to film this shit show for the last five years (since Ryan's first rehab stint) she is complicit in this whole faux story. She went along with the Ryan is a bad father story line and continued her scenes with the Edwards in exchange for that MTV check. What does that make her?

[jacksgirl]

Kazu, great point. It makes her a huge hypocrite. No surprise there. 

[Christina]

On 6/22/2017 at 8:36 PM, GreatKazu said:

Speaking of tats, why is it that our lady of ugly tattoos didn't throw a tantrum or threaten to quit filming the show when it became apparent Ryan was an addict? [Snip]

Even though I find her a to be huge hypocrite, this is actually in character for her. Druggies, felons, and domestic abusers are a-okay to film with, adult entertainment professionals can't be in the same show with her son because people will think poorly of him for it. His dad being an addict and his mom and stepdad drinking like fish won't be embarrassing, though.

It actually seemed to me that she didn't want to say he was an addict. That scene with Cate and Amber in Puerto Rico, Mexico/Spain had her speaking in circles for a few minutes after Amber brought it up. I think the people who pointed out that her scenes discussing his drug use and the call to the interventionist were filmed after the story was breaking anyway and cut into the episodes were correct about that theory. 

Maybe she doesn't have as big of a problem with substance abuse because she knows she and Taylor cross the line. Or, she's just a hypocrite doing a hypocritical thing, again. I guess they are not mutually exclusive.

[GreatKazu]

An old episode recap from 2014. This was two years after his first rehab stint.  

Maci, he doesn't care or get it because he is an addict!: http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/fdazlj/teen-mom-featured-moments-communication-breakdown

 

Maci explains her decision about why she was upset about finding out Farrah was returning to the show. Whatever, Maci: http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/2ibidp/teen-mom-featured-moments-parenting-preferences

 

A ha, found it. A clip where Maci says Jen and Larry are like her second parents AND how they will be the new baby's "mimi and pawpaw" (grandparents):

http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/nuiu8i/teen-mom-featured-moments-second-parents

Edited June 26, 2017 by GreatKazu

[Christina]

After posting a comment in Farrah's thread about Sophia not having toys laying around, I remember a scene with Maci that made me chuckle.

Taylor had insisted that they needed a larger house. In the scene where she was sitting on the couch to call the interventionist, the camera panned to behind her and the floor was covered in children's toys. The more room you have, the more kids' belongings take up. It just spreads like wildfire.

[CofCinci]

16 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

An old episode recap from 2014. This was two years after his first rehab stint.  

Maci, he doesn't care or get it because he is an addict!: http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/fdazlj/teen-mom-featured-moments-communication-breakdown

 

Maci explains her decision about why she was upset about finding out Farrah was returning to the show. Whatever, Maci: http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/2ibidp/teen-mom-featured-moments-parenting-preferences

 

A ha, found it. A clip where Maci says Jen and Larry are like her second parents AND how they will be the new baby's "mimi and pawpaw" (grandparents):

http://www.mtv.com/video-clips/nuiu8i/teen-mom-featured-moments-second-parents

Yep, they were the new baby's grandparents -- up until they moved to new house down the street from her mother. Maci no longer needed Mimi to babysit. 

[GreatKazu]

7 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Yep, they were the new baby's grandparents -- up until they moved to new house down the street from her mother. Maci no longer needed Mimi to babysit. 

Didn't Taylor say in a recent episode about his mother flying in to help babysit the kids? 

[Tatum]

I don't know why I think this, but I somehow have the impression Maci's parents don't do a lot of babysitting. I don't think they like, refuse or anything, I get the impression Sharon Bookout has perhaps provided Maci with some unsolicited (although no less necessary) advice on how Maci's handling her life, which Maci ignored, so she probably feels self conscious saying, Mom, I know you think I'm a drunk with a poor taste in men, but can you please watch three kids (two of which are toddlers) so hubby and I can go drink?

 

Pure speculation on my part. I know nothing that backs this up.

[Cabarb]

Tatum, I would have immense respect for the Bookouts if you are correct!  Somebody needs to tell these kids the truth at some point!

[lilmarysunshine]

I don't think her parents are jazzed about being on TV because we barely see them.

[GreatKazu]

@Tatum I agree. 

Maci's mom looks like she'd rather be anywhere than in front of an MTV camera. I can't help but remember in the first season where her mother kept pushing the college and education route to Maci. I got the sense her mother was really wasn't happy with the life Maci was leading and wasting her time on Ryan. At that point, Maci was still stuck on the idea of marrying Ryan. Maci's mom wasn't having it. I imagine having a daughter who is a lush, and traveling around the country to party is not a good enough reason to be an enabler by babysitting Bentley. 

[Tatum]

Sharon has called Maci out on camera numerous times over the last 9 years, from not taking school seriously to intentionally being uncooperative with Ryan because she was pissed at him. I would imagine she's probably had some comments for Maci getting knocked up by accident twice in 13 months, drinking while pregnant, investing her money into a Tshirt company, still not having her Associates degree...the list goes on and on. Maci probably does not want to ask her mother for favors at this point.

[GreatKazu]

Right. And we know Jen is a big time enabler so, she would be more than willing to babysit all the kids at the drop of a hat. Maci saying Jen and Larry are her second parents, is really her saying they are the parents she wished her own parents were to her. 

[Tatum]

2 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

@Tatum I agree. 

Maci's mom looks like she'd rather be anywhere than in front of an MTV camera. I can't help but remember in the first season where her mother kept pushing the college and education route to Maci. I got the sense her mother was really wasn't happy with the life Maci was leading and wasting her time on Ryan. At that point, Maci was still stuck on the idea of marrying Ryan. Maci's mom wasn't having it. I imagine having a daughter who is a lush, and traveling around the country to party is not a good enough reason to be an enabler by babysitting Bentley. 

Yeah, Sharon got her bachelors degree in her late 20s with two small kids and no MTV money. I am sure she's mortified by the opportunities Maci has been given and blown so far.

[GreatKazu]

6 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Yeah, Sharon got her bachelors degree in her late 20s with two small kids and no MTV money. I am sure she's mortified by the opportunities Maci has been given and blown so far.

I am not Maci's mother and I am mortified. Damn! So much opportunities with a six figure income for at least the past five years! Oy. 

[MissMel]

11 minutes ago, Tatum said:

I don't know why I think this, but I somehow have the impression Maci's parents don't do a lot of babysitting. I don't think they like, refuse or anything, I get the impression Sharon Bookout has perhaps provided Maci with some unsolicited (although no less necessary) advice on how Maci's handling her life, which Maci ignored, so she probably feels self conscious saying, Mom, I know you think I'm a drunk with a poor taste in men, but can you please watch three kids (two of which are toddlers) so hubby and I can go drink?

 

Pure speculation on my part. I know nothing that backs this up.

I've been an at home mom since 1994.  I've been on the brunt end of "well since you're home anyway, do you mind if my kids hang out with you for an hour or two after school?"  Um, no.  I'm home for my kids.  And they have friends that hang out with out them every afternoon.  If you want to pay me to be responsible for your kid on the regular, we can talk.  BTW I only keep kids while you are at work.  If I have to drag a whole baseball team to the grocery store, you can come pick your one kid up before you do that, too.  It's not that hard.

I imagine Maci's mom feels this way.  'I'll keep him while you work but not so you can play' kind of thing.  

[WhosThatGirl]

Macis mom also wasn't a fan of her decisions regarding Kyle. Macis mom always had the best facial expressions to things Maci said, an awesome moment was when she stated she was moving in with Kyle and Maci said "one day you all will start trusting me" and Sharon said "well we used to and then we got Bentley".

[GreatKazu]

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I imagine Maci's mom feels this way.  'I'll keep him while you work but not so you can play' kind of thing.  

Amen!

[Tatum]

41 minutes ago, MissMel said:

I've been an at home mom since 1994.  I've been on the brunt end of "well since you're home anyway, do you mind if my kids hang out with you for an hour or two after school?" 

Wow, people are ballsy. I can see asking you if you could watch the kids for 2 hours after school, (FOR PAY), or maybe for like an emergency, with the idea they would reciprocate in some other way to thank you, but just asking you to watch their kids for free on a regular basis- pretty entitled.

[GreatKazu]

Ugh, I once watched a relative's toddler while she was working and supposedly she was leaving her husband. Come to find out she had allowed him to move back in with her, and I was watching her kid FOR FREE that whole time. I confronted her and told her that her spouse could watch their kid while she works. I am not wasting my time caring for a child while the dad does shit all damn day. People will take advantage. I then recently come to find out one of my tenants allowed her sister to move into the rental home we own. I then told her I was going to raise the rent. I knew her sister had children spread out with different relatives. I decided to then ask, "Are any of her kids coming to live here?" She said, "Oh yeah. But just for the summer." Seriously? If I hadn't asked, she wouldn't have told me. I then informed her I was going to raise it even more because that is more wear and tear on my rental home. 

How is it people just think they are entitled and can just fucking do what they want? 

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

On June 17, 2017 at 1:25 PM, lexiexx said:

I think it's more shocking that maci most likely knew Ryan was a pill popper this whole time but still made a storyline bashing Jen and Larry for being involved and bitching about how Ryan should be doing more on his own with Bentley.   

I agree that Jen and Larry are enablers tho, especially Jen.   Can't wait till they get pissed enough to blow the top off of Maci's binge drinking problems in retaliation for this new storyline   

Agree.....and OMG yes! That Bud Lite-soaked  chicken is gonna come home to roost for sure (and I'm here for it). 

On June 17, 2017 at 5:21 PM, lexiexx said:

I have a hard time believing that Maci did not know about the drugs.  Especially if he was in rehab already like Dalis claims.   

Maci ignored it because it was convent to drop of Bentley to his free babysitter grandparents so she could party, and also used it as 'gee why is Ryan a deadbeat boo hoo hoo' storyline for the show.   Topped with the 'Ryan doesn't step up enough and parent on his own so I won't allow them x y and z days that they are asking for.'   Win win.  

I remember on one of the specials where the moms answer questions that Bentley gets teased about his dad.   So Maci goes ahead and films this fuckery?  Nice parenting there.   I hope that nice house and everything else she has gotten with MTV money was worth the humiliation her 8 year old is going to have to live through now that she has stepped up the airing Ryan's dirty laundry game.   

EXACTLY. 

On June 22, 2017 at 7:36 PM, GreatKazu said:

Speaking of tats, why is it that our lady of ugly tattoos didn't throw a tantrum or threaten to quit filming the show when it became apparent Ryan was an addict? She sure didn't want to be on a show with Farrah because she made a porn tape. Big deal. Doing porn is legal. Buying illegal drugs to ingest is a crime.  Why didn't Maci tell the producers and the Edwards she refuses to film until Ryan is removed from the show or she will have to openly discuss the fact Ryan was an addict? Just the mere fact she continued to film this shit show for the last five years (since Ryan's first rehab stint) she is complicit in this whole faux story. She went along with the Ryan is a bad father story line and continued her scenes with the Edwards in exchange for that MTV check. What does that make her?

 

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

@Tatum I agree. 

Maci's mom looks like she'd rather be anywhere than in front of an MTV camera. I can't help but remember in the first season where her mother kept pushing the college and education route to Maci. I got the sense her mother was really wasn't happy with the life Maci was leading and wasting her time on Ryan. At that point, Maci was still stuck on the idea of marrying Ryan. Maci's mom wasn't having it. I imagine having a daughter who is a lush, and traveling around the country to party is not a good enough reason to be an enabler by babysitting Bentley. 

I just want to say liking these posts wasn't enough. St. Maci of BudLite definitely didn't care because she wanted someone else (Jen & Larry) to watch Bentley while she partied and her mama likely was Iikely over doing so, plus it helped her victim storyline.   And hell, I'm disappointed in Maci (I thought she'd be the one to actually finish a four year degree and get some sort of real job) and she isn't even my daughter. I feel you, Sharon.

[GreatKazu]

6 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Agree.....and OMG yes! That Bud Lite-soaked  chicken is gonna come home to roost for sure (and I'm here for it). 

EXACTLY. 

 

I just want to say liking these posts wasn't enough. St. Maci of BudLite definitely didn't care because she wanted someone else (Jen & Larry) to watch Bentley while she partied and her mama likely was Iikely over doing so, plus it helped her victim storyline.   And hell, I'm disappointed in Maci (I thought she'd be the one to actually finish a four year degree and get some sort of real job) and she isn't even my daughter. I feel you, Sharon.

St. Maci of Bud Lite...OMG lol 

Perfect!!

I wish I was a mod. I would change this title thread STAT! 

[WhosThatGirl]

I think this is why when Macis story in the beginning of this season was "Larry and Jen are too controlling of Bentleys time and they are only grandparents" was annoying was because she sort of asked for that? She's been allowing that to be the situation for years at this point. And then she was getting free daycare for her daughter that had no real relation to Jen and Larry. 

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, MissMel said:

I've been an at home mom since 1994.  I've been on the brunt end of "well since you're home anyway, do you mind if my kids hang out with you for an hour or two after school?"  Um, no.  I'm home for my kids.  And they have friends that hang out with out them every afternoon.  If you want to pay me to be responsible for your kid on the regular, we can talk.  BTW I only keep kids while you are at work.  If I have to drag a whole baseball team to the grocery store, you can come pick your one kid up before you do that, too.  It's not that hard.

Not to get too off topic, but what is UP with that??? I've been a SAHM since 2008 and I also homeschool our 3 kids. I have had two different neighbors ask me if I can keep their kids too. No thanks. I'm not just sitting around, we stay busy around here! It's obnoxious. 

I also get neighbor moms just going somewhere when they're kids are playing at my house, without telling me. One day we had to be somewhere and we sent the neighbor girl home - no one was there! WTF???

[Tatum]

3 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Not to get too off topic, but what is UP with that??? I've been a SAHM since 2008 and I also homeschool our 3 kids. I have had two different neighbors ask me if I can keep their kids too.

Did they at least offer to pay you? I mean, that can still be awkward and put you on the spot if you don't want to do it (even for money), but I can't imagine the entitlement of just assuming someone would watch your kids for free just because they were home.

 

As to your second example. I just can't even imagine. Super irresponsible and just plain negligent.

[ghoulina]

43 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Did they at least offer to pay you? I mean, that can still be awkward and put you on the spot if you don't want to do it (even for money), but I can't imagine the entitlement of just assuming someone would watch your kids for free just because they were home.

One did. One didn't. But even if they were going to pay me, I'm not advertising myself as a babysitter or daycare! Just because I'm home with kids, doesn't mean I want more. If you want to know the truth, I feel like a zookeeper at a zoo full of rioting animals half the time. I don't need any more kids up in here! And it does make it awkward, to have to say "no" to your neighbor. 

[MargeGunderson]

45 minutes ago, Tatum said:

Did they at least offer to pay you? I mean, that can still be awkward and put you on the spot if you don't want to do it (even for money), but I can't imagine the entitlement of just assuming someone would watch your kids for free just because they were home.

 

As to your second example. I just can't even imagine. Super irresponsible and just plain negligent.

I'd be surprised but I worked for an academic library (college/grad school) and had parents try to drop off their kids in the library for me to watch them while they went to class. And no, there weren't any children's books or story time. 

[Tatum]

20 minutes ago, MargeGunderson said:

I'd be surprised but I worked for an academic library (college/grad school) and had parents try to drop off their kids in the library for me to watch them while they went to class. And no, there weren't any children's books or story time. 

Wow.

[GreatKazu]

Long, long, long time ago when I worked at a fast food place, I saw two kids in one of the booths with Crayolas  and coloring books. They had eaten, but they were also there for quite a long time without any adults around. I asked them what was up with them and they told me their mom had dropped them off there. I called the police. She showed up just as the police had gotten there. She acted like it was the most normal thing in the world to leave your children alone in a fast food place as she went to run errands. 

I got to thinking last night that Maci is likely irked that her party days have diminished substantially and the reality of her being a SAHM is not sitting well with her. She misses being able to just go on a moment's notice when she only had Bentley. That might be part of why she and Taylor are having these verbal drunken brawls. I imagine he throws shit in her face and she blames him for shit. 

[mamadrama]

12 hours ago, MargeGunderson said:

I'd be surprised but I worked for an academic library (college/grad school) and had parents try to drop off their kids in the library for me to watch them while they went to class. And no, there weren't any children's books or story time. 

My mom attended graduate school when I was 10. She mostly had night classes and they lasted for 3 hours. I would walk from her classroom building to the campus library and stay there for the duration. I'd do my homework, read, and sometimes even nap. Then I'd walk back. I mean, it was 10 pm before she got out and there I was, not even a teenager, strolling through campus alone. My son is 10. I can't even begin to imagine him doing that. But I was cooking dinner for the family and staying home alone while she ran errands at the age of 5 so my childhood isn't the best of examples anyway. 

13 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Not to get too off topic, but what is UP with that??? I've been a SAHM since 2008 and I also homeschool our 3 kids. I have had two different neighbors ask me if I can keep their kids too. No thanks. I'm not just sitting around, we stay busy around here! It's obnoxious. 

 

I work from home and get this all the time as well. When we had our son in daycare, my mother-in-law was appalled. After all, I am "home all day anyway", why couldn't I watch him? For those of us that work from home or run small businesses, it's a neverending argument with a lot of the folks around us. I am constantly trying to assure people that, yes, I work. It's a real job with real money and real taxes and everything. 

[Christina]

I used to assist professional photographers. I don't think there was one of them who didn't have people expect them to watch their kids "because they were home anyway." Yeah, working. One hired a teenager to babysit while she got some work done, and a neighbor who used the same babysitter dropped her kids off. She came out of her office and the teenager was apologetic and said she didn't know what to do. She had told her that she should ask Julie, but the neighbor insisted that it was fine and left. She had went to the grocery store and Walmart and after she got home, she was unloading the bags into the house, unloaded the groceries and still didn't come get her kids. Julie went over and told her to come get her kids and that she owed the babysitter however much it was and the neighbor said she didn't, because Julie was already paying her and the kids were playing and taking care of themselves. 

Julie is pretty laid back person in general and was shocked at the hubris of her neighbor. She said she lost the ability to speak because she was so mad, the babysitter thought Julie was upset at her, and that is what calmed her down. She escorted the neighbors kids back home and told her to never come over again, then felt bad because it happened in front of the kids and the kids were the ones ultimately punished. It was a no win situation for her, all because her neighbor didn't think someone who worked from home actually worked. Some people just suck.

Being a stay-at-home parent is probably a bit soul crushing for Maci. I've never gotten a drive to work or go to school, like Farrah possesses, but to not be able to drop everything and go to lunch or a concert is probably hard on her. She was always on the go. Chelsea, for example, would probably be fine staying at home 24/7 with a night out once a month. 

[Calm81]

On 6/22/2017 at 8:36 PM, GreatKazu said:

Speaking of tats, why is it that our lady of ugly tattoos didn't throw a tantrum or threaten to quit filming the show when it became apparent Ryan was an addict? She sure didn't want to be on a show with Farrah because she made a porn tape. Big deal. Doing porn is legal. Buying illegal drugs to ingest is a crime.  Why didn't Maci tell the producers and the Edwards she refuses to film until Ryan is removed from the show or she will have to openly discuss the fact Ryan was an addict? Just the mere fact she continued to film this shit show for the last five years (since Ryan's first rehab stint) she is complicit in this whole faux story. She went along with the Ryan is a bad father story line and continued her scenes with the Edwards in exchange for that MTV check. What does that make her?

Because the reason Maci didn't want to film with Farrah on the show was complete utter bullshit.

Maci can save it with the "I don't want my kid associated with someone that did porn or have scenes of strip clubs on the show."

The REAL reason for her not wanting to film with Farrah is because (the same for Cate) they didn't want their men watching the episodes that have Farrah dressed with her tits nearly popping out and looking hot. Farrah may be cray cray but the girl is smoking hot and Maci knows that Taylor and Tyler out of curiosity watched her porno tape and they're jealous. 

I can't really blame them, if I had a friend that did a porno, I would be so uncomfortable being around her with the thought of my husband secretly watching the tape out of curiosity and now knows what my friends butthole looked like and knew the sounds she made in bed and what made her have an orgasm, lol.

I would have rathered Maci be honest and say "I don't want to film a show with a girl that my husband has stroked his corn on the cob too!" Instead of acting holier than thou and Miss prude with the church going "I don't want to be associated with a porn star," bullshit. I mean, the same girl had her scene at the male strip club aired and then was fine with Tyler's strip club scene to be filmed.

[ghoulina]

4 hours ago, mamadrama said:

I work from home and get this all the time as well. When we had our son in daycare, my mother-in-law was appalled. After all, I am "home all day anyway", why couldn't I watch him? For those of us that work from home or run small businesses, it's a neverending argument with a lot of the folks around us. I am constantly trying to assure people that, yes, I work. It's a real job with real money and real taxes and everything. 

Oh jeez. And yea, as a writer, you need some peace and quiet, for sure. I was a nanny once for a work from home mom. She had a home office and worked 9-4. Kids napped from like 1-4, so I left around 2 after I'd cleaned up everything. It was my job to make sure they didn't try to go in the office. She was on the phone a lot. If the weather was nice, I'd have them out of the house as much as possible. I don't know why people assume that when you're at home, kids should be as well. Hell, I can't even make a 10 minute phone call without my boys trying to catapult each other across the room or my daughter having a fit because one of her 2382948 giraffes is missing. Actual work? Forget it! 

 

1 hour ago, Calm81 said:

I would have rathered Maci be honest and say "I don't want to film a show with a girl that my husband has stroked his corn on the cob too!" Instead of acting holier than thou and Miss prude with the church going "I don't want to be associated with a porn star," bullshit. I mean, the same girl had her scene at the male strip club aired and then was fine with Tyler's strip club scene to be filmed.

I also kind of thought it was because Farrah was becoming more "famous" and she felt threatened - and just used the porn thing as an excuse. It's not like this is the Real Housewives and all the moms film together. (Well, they have this season.) There's all kinds of horrible shit happening on this show that her kids are on. I agree, if she would have just been honest, I'd respect her more. 

[NannyBails]

2382948 giraffes!  LOL!!!!

[ghoulina]

8 minutes ago, NannyBails said:

2382948 giraffes!  LOL!!!!

Oh, you don't even KNOW. That's just the giraffes. This child has so many stuffed animals my husband had to build a "zoo" that is almost as tall as she is, and it's full to the top! (Thank God for Pinterest, the animals were taking over bed.)

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, Calm81 said:

Because the reason Maci didn't want to film with Farrah on the show was complete utter bullshit.

Maci can save it with the "I don't want my kid associated with someone that did porn or have scenes of strip clubs on the show."

The REAL reason for her not wanting to film with Farrah is because (the same for Cate) they didn't want their men watching the episodes that have Farrah dressed with her tits nearly popping out and looking hot. Farrah may be cray cray but the girl is smoking hot and Maci knows that Taylor and Tyler out of curiosity watched her porno tape and they're jealous. 

I can't really blame them, if I had a friend that did a porno, I would be so uncomfortable being around her with the thought of my husband secretly watching the tape out of curiosity and now knows what my friends butthole looked like and knew the sounds she made in bed and what made her have an orgasm, lol.

I would have rathered Maci be honest and say "I don't want to film a show with a girl that my husband has stroked his corn on the cob too!" Instead of acting holier than thou and Miss prude with the church going "I don't want to be associated with a porn star," bullshit. I mean, the same girl had her scene at the male strip club aired and then was fine with Tyler's strip club scene to be filmed.

I thought it was 50% jealousy, and 50% pandering- Maci figured all the pearl clutchers who were disgusted with Farrah's involvement in porn would love Maci if she acted like she was offended as well.  And you know what? She was mostly correct. I mean, we all know most of the Teen Mom fanbase aren't exactly good at critical thinking. I read countless comments on The Ashley (which seems to have a more intelligent readership than the average fan site, but they are not nearly as vicious or blunt as we are) and Teen Mom Junkie about how "brave" and "principled" Maci was for protesting Farrah's return to the show.

 

Porn is not for everyone, and there are plenty of intelligent, well thought out speeches against pornography, and how it contributes to the subjugation of women, among other things, and I have no problem with not wanting anything to do with porn. Had Maci said, "as a woman, I am deeply disturbed by the underlying disrespect and degradation it does to women, and I am disappointed Farrah would help perpetuate that problem just to make a quick buck. It's her choice and I understand she has her own principles to follow, and everyone may not agree with me, but I just don't want any involvement with the porn industry and I was hoping Teen Mom would disassociate itself from Farrah for that reason" , I would not have judged her so harshly. But if she goes down that road, she is against porn in all capacities- those that direct it, those that produce it, those that market it, sell it, distribute it, and most of all- those that watch it, thus creating a demand.  It is not a convenient moral stance to take against someone she doesn't like anyways, just because that person is a recognizable, compensated cog in the wheel of the porn industry.

 

This is all moot, because it had nothing to do with sisterhood or the advancement of women's rights or any oppression or subjugation, and Maci would be a liar to say so. This was about someone she did not like, who was at least as smart as she was (Maci can feel superior to Cate and Amber, who have never worked a job or taken any college classes, and also have both been fat; she can't really pull that with Farrah), and Maci knew Farrah was hurt to be excluded and loved lording that over her. Then Farrah is invited back (if anyone wants a laugh, watch Maci's reaction shot again), and Maci is both deeply disappointed and also insulted- why would they decide they need Farrah back? And as a last ditch effort, threatens to quit in order to force their hand, to see if they'll choose Maci over Farrah.  Again, a no-go. Now Maci just looks like an idiot.

 

Maci, Maci, Maci. Never make a threat you're not prepared to carry out. Sure, I do it all the time to my kids, but they're children. Some day very soon they'll call my bluff.

[GreatKazu]

It is so laughable to watch Maci talk about Ryan's drug problem to her friend while they both sit there wearing TTM shirts. 

Maci: "Oh wait (to the camera crew) We have to put on these shirts first before we film this scripted scene." 

"Do you think I should cry in this scene?" Maci asking her friend.

Maci is a fucking joke.

[SPLAIN]

On ‎6‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 0:21 PM, WhosThatGirl said:

I think this is why when Macis story in the beginning of this season was "Larry and Jen are too controlling of Bentleys time and they are only grandparents" was annoying was because she sort of asked for that? She's been allowing that to be the situation for years at this point. And then she was getting free daycare for her daughter that had no real relation to Jen and Larry. 

Thank you. I have mentioned this a few times myself. 

I can't hate on Maci for wanting to have her children feel the same love from Jen and Larry that they bestow on their own grandson. For me, it would be hard to send off one kid to their grandparents while the other two don't have that same relationship. Being an adopted child, love is love and it has nothing to do with blood family. I think Maci wants all her kids to share the same love and attention from the very people Bentley call his grandparents. 

With that said, my issue with her is she does have the Edwards right where she wants them - at her beck and call.  She does refer to them as the grandparents of her other two kids (per the clip linked here recently). Hey, why not? Giving them that role for the other two kids means she now has them as babysitters.

For Maci to even say the Edwards are controlling, is laughable. She created that situation. She admits in one of those clips posted here how they were the people she was co-parenting with on a regular basis. If you have been co-parenting with them for 8 years, why then are you shocked that they asked Bentley if he wanted to spend a particular holiday with them? That is what parents do. We know the Edwards are not Bentley's parents, but Maci chose them to be. Suck it up!

Edited June 27, 2017 by SPLAIN

[druzy]

Sure. Seriously. She seriously put her child in harm's way while knowingly placing her child in a car with an addict behind the wheel. Seriously. 

[GreatKazu]

6 minutes ago, druzy said:

Sure. Seriously. She seriously put her child in harm's way while knowingly placing her child in a car with an addict behind the wheel. Seriously. 

Seriously, Chelsea??? 

Right on, Druzy. That bitch needs a good bitch slap. For five years she carried on with her campaign. As she pointed out Jen for being an enabler, who allowed Bentley to go over to Mimi's house to begin with? And who allowed Bentley to be in Ryan's car even after Ryan told her straight out he doesn't make Bentley wear a seatbelt? The same bitch who drank while pregnant and had no fucks to give.  

Edited June 28, 2017 by GreatKazu

[druzy]

13 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Seriously, Chelsea??? 

Right on, Druzy. That bitch needs a good bitch slap. For five years she carried on with her campaign. As she pointed out Jen for being an enabler, who allowed Bentley to go over to Mimi's house to begin with? And who allowed Bentley to be in Ryan's car even after Ryan told her straight out he doesn't make Bentley wear a seatbelt. 

The comments are all praising Maci for saving Ryan. I'm sure Cate will chime in.

I remember Ryan telling her that he doesn't make Bentley wear a seatbelt and Maci accepted it. She complained behind his back, but did nothing to stop it. 

Edited June 28, 2017 by druzy

[ghoulina]

I'm not sure how Maci can be praised for "saving" Ryan, when it doesn't appear that he's been saved AT ALL.  He did a very brief stint in rehab, and appeared to be partying shortly after. For someone as bad off as we saw, he needed much more help than he got. 

[GreatKazu]

St. Maci of Bud Lite Saved Private Ryan.

That could be a porn title.  

[druzy]

2 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

St. Maci of Bud Lite Saved Private Ryan.

That could be a porn title.  

Lol- I love it!