poopchute October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 3 hours ago, CofCinci said: She has employment. Amber earns $300,000+ to film scenes where she sits on her couch and bitches or Matt drives her places to spend her money. If I was an uneducated felon without any special skills or work experience, I'd pick the camera over working McDonalds drive-thru. (If I had Amber's money, I'd travel the world. There is so much to see and experience. I couldn't imagine wasting a single day on that rotten sofa or with that rotten man-child.) Yeah I guess I'm just surprised this counts as a "job" in the eyes of the legal system. I thought maybe part of the requirement of finding employment was to learn how to be a productive member of society and/or find a productive use of her time. You're probably less likely to get back into trouble if you have to show up to work on time every day and stay there for 8 hours. I figured that's the reason for the job part and her current "job" doesn't satisfy those things. I get it, she is getting paid for this and that's her job right now I'm just surprised it counts for her parole. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2673378
GreatKazu October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, poopchute said: Yeah I guess I'm just surprised this counts as a "job" in the eyes of the legal system. I thought maybe part of the requirement of finding employment was to learn how to be a productive member of society and/or find a productive use of her time. You're probably less likely to get back into trouble if you have to show up to work on time every day and stay there for 8 hours. I figured that's the reason for the job part and her current "job" doesn't satisfy those things. I get it, she is getting paid for this and that's her job right now I'm just surprised it counts for her parole. It really shouldn't since they basically film the cast for at least a week or two for one season. That is not a job. Being filmed for two weeks or four weeks out of one year is hardly work. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2673573
GreatKazu October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 (edited) 13 hours ago, CofCinci said: She has employment. Amber earns $300,000+ to film scenes where she sits on her couch and bitches or Matt drives her places to spend her money. If I was an uneducated felon without any special skills or work experience, I'd pick the camera over working McDonalds drive-thru. (If I had Amber's money, I'd travel the world. There is so much to see and experience. I couldn't imagine wasting a single day on that rotten sofa or with that rotten man-child.) Forgot to comment on this. It has been running through my head how these people just go through their money. When you consider buying a new home and the mortgage that comes with it, property taxes (that shit must be expensive considering the area), heating and cooling costs, furnishings, shitty home decor like the JFK screen, flat screen televisions for every room, homeowner's insurance, HOAs (no doubt in that area she lives in), maintenance, utility bills, Netflix, cable, and all that sort of thing, of course the occasional $900 for clothes for Leah, Amber's clothing and shoe costs, I am sure she is spending a good chunk on make-up. Maybeline just ain't cutting it. Imagine the amount being spent on Matt's clothes alone? We know Wal-mart is no longer her shopping place. Then you have cars, car insurance, gas, car maintenance, medical and dental expenses, eating out, jewelry, manis and pedis, hair salon costs for Amber because a girl has got to look good while sitting her ass on her couch. She has her designer purses and sunglasses, iPhones, cell phone bills, Christmas and birthday gifts for everybody in their family, vacations, dog food, vet bills, boating excursions and all the shit Matt loves to do, giving money and buying gifts for family members, barbecues and other parties, plastic surgery, oh and child support, whatever pity amount she gives to Gary. There is of course the lawyer fees for Matt that has got to be paid, her attorney fees, Matt's past child support payments and whatever other bullshit expenses that come with having Matt as a partner, that shit adds up. With no other income coming in, I wouldn't be surprised if Amber lives paycheck to paycheck. I didn't even mention IRS and the taxes that must be paid. Amber owes the IRS. Penalties and interest add up. She is behind on her own child support. I would not feel comfortable having her income and going around the world to travel while spending money the way she does WITHOUT ensuring I had some other income coming in whether it is through a real job, investments, or true house flipping, not that made-up shit Matt is doing. Matt has only flipped TWO houses. Big deal. They probably burned through the money they made off of those two houses way before those houses ever sold! The cost of materials, labor, permits, realtor fees, etc. is costly. They'd have to sell the house in order to recoup all of that. What little profit, if any, was burned long ago. Surely her book money earnings is long gone. My husband and I travel and have gone to some beautiful places. We don't have a six figure income. What we do have is investments and a couple of rentals. That extra income is what we use to pay for our travels. The rest is put away in a bank account that we do not touch. We have that cushion. The only cushion Amber has is that shit-stained sofa. Edited October 23, 2016 by GreatKazu "is" not "it" unless referencing Amber. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2673598
SPLAIN October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 15 hours ago, starfire said: I tend to doubt the school would let her volunteer, even if she wanted to (which we know she doesn't). Aside from being a convicted felon, and that it was a violent crime, Amber may still be on parole. She was sentenced to 5 years in prison in 2012 and served less than a year and a half. Wouldn't she remain on parole until the 5 years was up? Amber was released because she completed certain prison programs, completed her GED, and received credit for good behavior. When one is sentenced to prison, there is always the chance they will get out early due to over-crowding, good behavior, and completion of programs. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674220
mamadrama October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 7 hours ago, GreatKazu said: or true house flipping, not that made-up shit Matt is doing. Matt has only flipped TWO houses. Big deal. They probably burned through the money they made off of those two houses way before those houses ever sold! Why haven't they shown any of the house flipping stuff? They showed them buying the house and then, voila, it was ready to sell. They showed Simon and Farrah fighting in theirs and Tyler working in his. Why gloss over Matt and Amber's? Is it because it doesn't fit into their narrative or because there really is something shady going on? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674368
Katt October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 lol, they can't film Amber & Gnat renovating a house because they only see it twice. Once when they're buying it and once when someone else has finished the work on it. I DO think Amber is doing something shady, though, because I'm fairly certain she's living way beyond MTV money. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674429
mamadrama October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 16 minutes ago, Katt said: lol, they can't film Amber & Gnat renovating a house because they only see it twice. Once when they're buying it and once when someone else has finished the work on it. I DO think Amber is doing something shady, though, because I'm fairly certain she's living way beyond MTV money. Another thing that makes me think it's shady,and that you're right about them only seeing it twice, is that it seems like if it was legit and they were doing the work Amber would be pushing for some house-flipping show. She'd be in there with her hammer and overalls, pretending to work. In other words, she'd be milking it with everything she has. The fact that she rarely speaks of it, unlike Farrah and her businesses, is a major red flag. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674457
AmyFarrahFowler October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 42 minutes ago, Katt said: lol, they can't film Amber & Gnat renovating a house because they only see it twice. Once when they're buying it and once when someone else has finished the work on it. I DO think Amber is doing something shady, though, because I'm fairly certain she's living way beyond MTV money. Of course Amber is living beyond her means...because she doesn't pay her taxes! Does she even realize that the IRS doesn't mess around? They will confiscate anything that isn't nailed down to satisfy the debt. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674503
CofCinci October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 They aren't flipping houses because they didn't make much. Matt's "ex-boss" did all the actual work. After his labor, they maybe brought home $10k in that market and for that type of house. Amber and Matt aren't getting off the couch for $10k. They're not going to sweat for $10k. She's not going to paint a wall or bring a wheelbarrow of debris to the dump box for $10k. She gets $4k for a Fitfabfun Instagram post and all she has to do it hit copy and paste on her phone. Fuck, even that's too draining for her. 1 minute ago, AmyFarrahFowler said: Of course Amber is living beyond her means...because she doesn't pay her taxes! Does she even realize that the IRS doesn't mess around? They will confiscate anything that isn't nailed down to satisfy the debt. As long as you work out a payment plan with the IRS, you're fine. She could be giving the IRS/US Dept of Treasury $500/month and that keeps the liens off her property. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674507
Katt October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 I was taking into consideration her making some sort of payment to the IRS when I thought of how much money goes out compared to how much she takes in. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674524
GreatKazu October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, CofCinci said: They aren't flipping houses because they didn't make much. Matt's "ex-boss" did all the actual work. After his labor, they maybe brought home $10k in that market and for that type of house. Amber and Matt aren't getting off the couch for $10k. They're not going to sweat for $10k. She's not going to paint a wall or bring a wheelbarrow of debris to the dump box for $10k. She gets $4k for a Fitfabfun Instagram post and all she has to do it hit copy and paste on her phone. Fuck, even that's too draining for her. Amber is so fucking lazy, she can't even lose weight without going under the knife. Amber is so lazy, she can barely muster the energy to open a can of nasty-looking green beans. That reads like those mama jokes. Amber is sooooo lazy (insert funny line here). 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674529
CofCinci October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber is sooo lazy that she won't even break up with Matt. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674534
GreatKazu October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber is sooo lazy, her patron saint is a sloth. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674553
mamadrama October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber is so lazy her couch and bed had to work out a custody agreement. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674561
starfire October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 4 hours ago, SPLAIN said: Amber was released because she completed certain prison programs, completed her GED, and received credit for good behavior. When one is sentenced to prison, there is always the chance they will get out early due to over-crowding, good behavior, and completion of programs. Yes, I understand that people get released early all the time. My point was that it is possible she is still on parole for domestic violence and drug convictions and that it could be an additional barrier to her working as a volunteer in an elementary school. (Not that she wants to, of course!) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2674698
CofCinci October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber and Matt vs. Farrah's crew at the reunion taping last night. Amber and Matt removed by security. http://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2016/10/23/physical-fight-breaks-out-at-teen-mom-og-season-6-reunion-taping-report/ Best line goes to Simon. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675396
GreatKazu October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CofCinci said: Amber and Matt vs. Farrah's crew at the reunion taping last night. Amber and Matt removed by security. http://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2016/10/23/physical-fight-breaks-out-at-teen-mom-og-season-6-reunion-taping-report/ Best line goes to Simon. These scuzzballs are killing me. LOL Quote “You could hear Maci screaming that she wanted to come on and was going to f**king kill Farrah. They didn’t get on, though, as security seemed to hold them back.” Now see, we know things weren't all peachy with these girls. MTV just wanted us to believe they all had patched things up. Normally, I'd get mad at the hippo comment, except I remember when Amber and Cate were on Snap Chat as they were calling out Farrah as a "hoe-bag" and some other ugly names after she did her porn tape. Cate even went as far as to call out Farrah for not being there for her child. Pot meet kettle. Go ahead Simon, give us the details. Hmmm...Amber gets in a brawl and throws a punch at Farrah, but misses. I don't think her parole officer is going to like this very much. I hope she gets in trouble for this shit. She needs a slap of reality. Edited October 23, 2016 by GreatKazu 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675403
CofCinci October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Why is Amber throwing punches when she's recovering from her anal retreading? She's going to pull a stitch. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675446
GreatKazu October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber is soooo slow, she can't even land a punch. That is why she has been lying down and sitting down the entire season. She was trying to work up all that energy for the reunion show. LOL @ Maci wanting to fight. Where was Deb? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675485
ginger90 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 I guess the reunion will be must see tv! https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonSaran/status/790210224250433538?p=v 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675543
mamadrama October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 1 hour ago, CofCinci said: Amber and Matt vs. Farrah's crew at the reunion taping last night. Amber and Matt removed by security. http://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2016/10/23/physical-fight-breaks-out-at-teen-mom-og-season-6-reunion-taping-report/ Best line goes to Simon. Simon has totally moved up in my who would you sleep with/friend/kill/marry game. I used to say "friend" but now he's moved up to "sleep with." (In order,the others fall into: Tyler, Matt, and Taylor. Tyler and Matt fight for Matt's spot. A lot.) 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675585
ginger90 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber's reunion look ? https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/790095000319119360/photo/1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675607
GreatKazu October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Just now, ginger90 said: Amber's reunion look ? https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/790095000319119360/photo/1 That's what Simon was referencing about her looking like a clown. Right now Cate is doing a happy dance because this news will overshadow her shit from the past two days. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675614
poopchute October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 I can't wait to see Dr Drew in full Sad Panda mode during/after that fight! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675630
ghoulina October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber's so lazy, she doesn't walk her dog - her dog walks her. (while she rides in a wagon) 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675639
starfire October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber is so lazy she would be a winner on American Idle. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675689
Katt October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Amber's so lazy, she had 6 inch eyelashes installed so the weight would open her eyes for her when she lies on the sofa. (Which is all the time...) 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675701
Trampolina October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 WTF is up with her eyebrows? They're taking up half her face. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675717
GreatKazu October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, starfire said: Amber is so lazy she would be a winner on American Idle. lol That happens to be the name of a King of Queens episode. Carrie is being lazy about finding a job. This is the look Amber is going for per her Instagram. Whoever posted Matt is pretending to be JFK and Amber is Marilyn Monroe, you hit the nail on the head: Her before and after...notice the tits: Edited October 23, 2016 by GreatKazu 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675733
starfire October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 32 minutes ago, GreatKazu said: lol That happens to be the name of a King of Queens episode. Carrie is being lazy about finding a job. That's where I got the idea! I love King of Queens!! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675823
GreatKazu October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, starfire said: That's where I got the idea! I love King of Queens!! I have the whole series on DVD! I love the show, too. Amber is so lazy, that if work were in bed, she'd rather sleep on the floor. If there was an award for laziness, Amber would send Matt to go pick it up for her. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675850
ginger90 October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Apparently Gary didn't stick around for the reunion? https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsGaryTime/status/790032281192673280?p=v Simon tweeted he hoped Leah was feeling better. So, the real parent left, apparently. https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonSaran/status/790253684701564928?p=v 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675851
CofCinci October 23, 2016 Share October 23, 2016 Yep, the only real parent on this series gave up the free MTV LA weekend experience to run home to his sick kid. Gary is a good egg. Wish he'd take care of his health more though. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2675883
Chris Knight October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Yeah Gary & Kristina are doing a good job. I agree, he needs to focus on his health or Leah & Emilie will be without a father at a young age. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2676297
mamadrama October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Amber is seriously calling out Simon for sitting on a couch? You can't even make this shit up. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2677192
CofCinci October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 (edited) Dummy Cate comes to Matt's defense. He owns a business. Farrah's posting receipts. Edited October 24, 2016 by CofCinci 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2677313
GreatKazu October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 (edited) I had no idea there was a faux Debra Twitter page. https://twitter.com/Debra_Bags It is just like the Barb page. It has some funny tweets. I came across this and had to share. Edited October 24, 2016 by GreatKazu 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2677513
AhFillAck October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, mamadrama said: Amber is seriously calling out Simon for sitting on a couch? You can't even make this shit up. Honestly, Amber could be a very successful actress with lots of jobs, because she would always be happy to be on the casting couch. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2677599
AhFillAck October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 12 hours ago, GreatKazu said: lol That happens to be the name of a King of Queens episode. Carrie is being lazy about finding a job. This is the look Amber is going for per her Instagram. Whoever posted Matt is pretending to be JFK and Amber is Marilyn Monroe, you hit the nail on the head: Her before and after...notice the tits: I've never understood the obsession women have with Marilyn and trying to emulate her. That woman was a mess and nothing to idolize whatsoever. And I have a trivia tidbit about Marilyn from my mother, and it is nas-tee. I may post in Small Talk sometime. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2677717
DangerousMinds October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 A mess personally, but gorgeous. I do nit understand the ugly eyebrows on most of these girls lately. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2677726
CofCinci October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678068
ClassyCourtHeels October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 19 hours ago, ginger90 said: Amber's reunion look ? https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/790095000319119360/photo/1 She looks like Mimi from Drew Carey. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678271
GreatKazu October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, ClassyCourtHeels said: She looks like Mimi from Drew Carey. I was trying to figure out who she reminded me of. You hit it. Maybe Amber is doing that scary clown thing that is happening right now where people are just showing up in various areas of the country wearing clown outfits. 1 hour ago, CofCinci said: Some of us mentioned something about this back when Matt hit that wall in Vegas and that confrontation that occurred at Amber's place after Matt ripped out the car dash cam. I do believe he may be beating her. Even if he wasn't physically harming her, everything else he does such as the controlling, the lying, all the manipulating, the overall fraud that is being perpetrated upon Amber, is some scary shit. Instead of plastic surgery, Amber should have gotten a brain transplant or a new set of eyes with which to see Matt for what he is. Perhaps a set of Ryan eyes would help. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678331
Calm81 October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, CofCinci said: If this is true I'm sickened. Amber may have beaten Gary and chooses to stay with a grifter, but she doesn't deserve to be beaten in her own home by someone SHE takes care of room and board. I know, I know, she was man enough to put a hand or two on Gary but two wrongs don't make a right and she went to gel and paid her dues for hitting Gar-bear. Gawd, I hope this tweet is nonsense and he's just spreading rumors. How dumb can you be to beat someone who's rich and supplying you with a D-list lifestyle? She really is mentally unstable if she doesn't dump him. She needs therapy big time. I feel for the women that are so mentally ill or depressed that are too scared to leave an abuser. My heart goes out to Amber if this is true. :-( Nobody should feel scared in their own home. Leah RUN!!!!! Amber, you're sick for allowing Leah around this man if what Simon says is true. Edited October 24, 2016 by Calm81 Had to change is to if 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678390
GreatKazu October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Quote How dumb can you be to beat someone who's rich and supplying you with a D-list lifestyle? Even people with money can be abused. Abusers pick a certain type of person. Amber is that type of person because she has self-esteem issues, she was feeling alone when she realized Gary was no longer in her life, she lost her father, she was vulnerable (still is), she just traded one vice (drugs) for another - Matt. If it weren't Matt, it would have been some other guy. There was a void that Amber was trying to fill. You know, I have been a victim of DV. I have also met many victims of DV. I never, and none of the victims I came across ever said "Fuck you" to anyone when it came to defending the abuser. Usually, victims of abuse tend to deny, cover-up, or play down the abuse. Matt must be a special kind of asshole for Amber to constantly tell the world to fuck off. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678434
Uncle JUICE October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Wow, guys, this is a pretty dangerous accusation with even less evidence than normal when this place, which I love, starts throwing around baselss accusations (this one's clearly a drug user, that one's a rageaholic, etc). A tweet from what we know is at least a world class douche is not enough for me to start believing anyone's beating anyone else. How much time does Simon really spend with Amber, first of all? The filming is only what, a couple of days a month? How much can we seriously expect to glean about their realities from that small sample size? I know all these people are assholes, but come on, to say it's somehow obvious or that Simon's tweet substantiates anything at all is a little beyond the pale. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678438
Calm81 October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said: Wow, guys, this is a pretty dangerous accusation with even less evidence than normal when this place, which I love, starts throwing around baselss accusations (this one's clearly a drug user, that one's a rageaholic, etc). A tweet from what we know is at least a world class douche is not enough for me to start believing anyone's beating anyone else. How much time does Simon really spend with Amber, first of all? The filming is only what, a couple of days a month? How much can we seriously expect to glean about their realities from that small sample size? I know all these people are assholes, but come on, to say it's somehow obvious or that Simon's tweet substantiates anything at all is a little beyond the pale. I agree, I take Simon with a grain of salt. That's the reason I said, "If this is true I'm sickened." You are absolutely correct that many people around here are quick to say she/he is being verbally abused etc., etc., I don't believe Simon, just sharing how sickened I would be if it were true and that she stuck around for that. 6 minutes ago, GreatKazu said: Even people with money can be abused. Abusers pick a certain type of person. Amber is that type of person because she has self-esteem issues, she was feeling alone when she realized Gary was no longer in her life, she lost her father, she was vulnerable (still is), she just traded one vice (drugs) for another - Matt. If it weren't Matt, it would have been some other guy. There was a void that Amber was trying to fill. You know, I have been a victim of DV. I have also met many victims of DV. I never, and none of the victims I came across ever said "Fuck you" to anyone when it came to defending the abuser. Usually, victims of abuse tend to deny, cover-up, or play down the abuse. Matt must be a special kind of asshole for Amber to constantly tell the world to fuck off. You're right. Domestic abusers are not prejudice to its victims. I don't think Simon is telling the truth. Hopefully. I will wait until I see proof before I think this is happening. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678460
GreatKazu October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 12 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said: Wow, guys, this is a pretty dangerous accusation with even less evidence than normal when this place, which I love, starts throwing around baselss accusations (this one's clearly a drug user, that one's a rageaholic, etc). A tweet from what we know is at least a world class douche is not enough for me to start believing anyone's beating anyone else. How much time does Simon really spend with Amber, first of all? The filming is only what, a couple of days a month? How much can we seriously expect to glean about their realities from that small sample size? I know all these people are assholes, but come on, to say it's somehow obvious or that Simon's tweet substantiates anything at all is a little beyond the pale. We have discussed the possibility before, but of course, we don't have proof. It is speculation that came up before this tweet. The signs, the behaviors, the control issues, all of that can point to abuse, but it can also point to a guy who is just a con artist and fraud who is trying to take what he can from Amber. There is a grey area in between as well. It is no different than the pedophile comments having been mentioned. Is there proof? No. But speculation occurs. We just don't always post "in my opinion" like we once had to. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678523
AhFillAck October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 Simon's phone number is on that condo listing. We can always call him and ask him things, I suppose! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678536
MyPeopleAreNordic October 24, 2016 Share October 24, 2016 3 hours ago, CofCinci said: 1 hour ago, Uncle JUICE said: Wow, guys, this is a pretty dangerous accusation with even less evidence than normal when this place, which I love, starts throwing around baselss accusations (this one's clearly a drug user, that one's a rageaholic, etc). A tweet from what we know is at least a world class douche is not enough for me to start believing anyone's beating anyone else. How much time does Simon really spend with Amber, first of all? The filming is only what, a couple of days a month? How much can we seriously expect to glean about their realities from that small sample size? I know all these people are assholes, but come on, to say it's somehow obvious or that Simon's tweet substantiates anything at all is a little beyond the pale. It wouldn't surprise me if this is true (but I hope it isn't). I want to know how Simon knows this. In the words of the late, great Whitney Houston, hey Simon - "Show me the receipts." 1 hour ago, AhFillAck said: Simon's phone number is on that condo listing. We can always call him and ask him things, I suppose! Who wants to invite him to come post here? Hehe. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/7344-amber-a-rill-woman-goes-to-gel/page/26/#findComment-2678786
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