Mellowyellow March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 Ray was so cute! Especially his comment about show tunes never hurting anyone! I could soooo marry Ray! We'd sing musicals together all day and re enact the death scene from Les Mis! And he'd have TONNES of money for jewels being a billionaire and all! 4 Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 And on the Waverider, you could just replicate whatever stone or setting you wanted. 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 (edited) Was it just me or were they hinting about Nate dying? That line of Amaya's about "good thing we've got time" sounded ominous to me. Edited March 13, 2018 by Starfish35 2 Link to comment
Sakura12 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 (edited) Only Legends would do a in memoriam for a rat. RIP Axel, you were the best of us. If losing Nate means we'll lose Amaya, I'll take it. Or they have to separate them, they are both so much better when they are not together. I actually liked Nate with Zari in the time loop episode and I miss Amaya and Mick, the pirate episode made me realize that again. Edited March 13, 2018 by Sakura12 4 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 10 hours ago, BkWurm1 said: Not my fav episode of LoT but some good moments. The Elvis stuff fell flat for me. Same. 28 minutes ago, Sakura12 said: If losing Nate means we'll lose Amaya, I'll take it. Or they have to separate them, they are both so much better when they are not together. I actually liked Nate with Zari in the time loop episode and I miss Amaya and Mick, the pirate episode made me realize that again. I agree on them being better separate. Or together in small doses. I loved both of those episodes, and I was actually starting to enjoy Nate, but now I'm back to "eh, he can go." 2 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 I can totally see Nata knocking up Amaya, dying thus causing Amaya to decide it's time she goes back to 1940 or whatever time she's from. She can't stay to long since she isn't getting any younger. 3 Link to comment
Cleanqueen March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 I am excited to watch Iris's episode, I hope its good because Candice deserves good content. I am just afraid that writers who are incapable of writing females on the spotlight will find a way to make me hate the episode. Also it would have been cool to see Iris the speedster teaming up with Killer Frost,they could've further cemented that so called relationship they preached about in episode 5. 3 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 Preliminary ratings for last night. Unrounded preliminary numbers and half-hours from RJK at SpottedRatings: Quote Legends of Tomorrow ........ 0.392 ... (0.405 ... 0.378) iZombie .............................. 0.250 ... (0.273 ... 0.226) Unrounded finals from last week - same source: Quote Here were the CW unrounded FINALS for last week (March 5-11).... The Flash ....................... 0.726 Supernatural .................. 0.520 Black Lightning .............. 0.478 Riverdale ....................... 0.462 Arrow ............................. 0.410 Legends of Tomorrow ... 0.397 iZombie ......................... 0.234 Jane the Virgin .............. 0.221 Life Sentence ................ 0.216 Dynasty ......................... 0.172 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 Wow, I'm really shocked how much BL has fallen in such a short time. Link to comment
Sakura12 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 I'm debating if I should watch the Flash tonight to support Candice, but I don't know if I can take it if it's Barry moping and whining about getting his powers back from her the whole time. I hope the Flash lets Iris shine this time unlike that awful #feminism episode. 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 (edited) Final numbers for last night. No change in demo for Legends, but viewers adjusted down 34,000; iZombie adjusted up 0.1 in demo and 17,000 in viewers. Edited March 13, 2018 by Starfish35 Link to comment
Starfish35 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 Quote Leading Lady @candicekp gives us life as the #PurpleFlash Purple Flash? That's really what she's being called? Link to comment
JJ928 March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 I haven't watched Flash since the midseason premier (I think), but I will be checking this ep out after Black Lightning for Iris. 1 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 53 minutes ago, Starfish35 said: Purple Flash? That's really what she's being called? It better not be! 1 Link to comment
Mellowyellow March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 (edited) Oh boo =( The Resident only got 0.8. I read that it'll likely get cancelled if it doesn't get over one. I'm addicted to that show right now! Edited March 13, 2018 by Mellowyellow 2 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 While I am not THAT surprised since it is only 1 episode and the liklihood of it happening again is slim to none but I am a little bit surprised that they didn't let Candice have any input in the costume. They just threw her in there and she got to choose the the easiest thing, the shoes. Link to comment
Trini March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: While I am not THAT surprised since it is only 1 episode and the liklihood of it happening again is slim to none but I am a little bit surprised that they didn't let Candice have any input in the costume. They just threw her in there and she got to choose the the easiest thing, the shoes. Helbing said the jacket had have a certain design for story reasons. There's spec about that in the Flash spoiler thread. But Candice also said she got them to change the mask. Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trini said: Helbing said the jacket had have a certain design for story reasons. There's spec about that in the Flash spoiler thread. But Candice also said she got them to change the mask. What did she say about the OG mask? Because this one sucks. Link to comment
Trini March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: What did she say about the OG mask? Because this one sucks. Can't find the exact interview right now, but she said the first one looked closer to Elongated Man's mask, and she was like 'hard pass'. 1 Link to comment
Lady Calypso March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, JJ928 said: I haven't watched Flash since the midseason premier (I think), but I will be checking this ep out after Black Lightning for Iris. Same here. I'm even opting out of watching my other 8pm show to watch The Flash live. 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 13, 2018 Share March 13, 2018 The only thing that could entice me to watch an ep of The Flash again is if Barry isn't in it. But I'm glad that it seems like Iris is getting something going in journalism again per CP's Ebony interview. Hopefully that's something that actually happens and isn't just a talking point in the article. 5 Link to comment
JJ928 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 So I just watched the Flash ep, and while I really enjoyed the Iris stuff, there was way too much Ralph. I feel like Iris/Flash should have taken up most of the ep, instead we had some dumb shit with Wells/Cisco, and so much Ralph I wanted to burn my eyes. He's such an awful character. Candice deserved more focus, but she did really well with what she had. Loved that they put her on a path again. 5 Link to comment
tennisgurl March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Iris is a good Flash, and I loved her outfit and her purple streaks. And she and Barry were cute together, and actually acted like a functioning couple. When they are allowed to just BE without endless drama and Iris gets the appropriate perspective, I really like them. Not to my beloved Olicity levels, but I can dig it. 3 Link to comment
ruby24 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Maybe getting rid of Kreisberg was the better for the writing. The last two episodes were the first of the season where he was not involved at all. 10 Link to comment
Mellowyellow March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 While watching the Flash: Me: Oooh they didn't kill the Asian guy today. Wonder when they'll kill him. Hubs (ever the optimist): Maybe they will introduce an Asian character to the cast Me: They introduced an Asian so they could kill him. Come on CW, prove me wrong and let the Asian dude live! 6 Link to comment
Cleanqueen March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Yeah there really wasn't enough of Iris in that episode, I expected more screen time and more scenes of her using her powers. When they mentioned the fire and she said Caitlin was on Fire Duty, I really thought her and KF were going out on the field together, not sure what happened in that scene. Both scenarios could've used some KF, but I am guessing they just wanted Iris on the field solo. I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of Ralph and him grappling with whether to be a hero or not EVERY EPISODE. 2 Link to comment
Lady Calypso March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, Cleanqueen said: Yeah there really wasn't enough of Iris in that episode, I expected more screen time and more scenes of her using her powers. When they mentioned the fire and she said Caitlin was on Fire Duty, I really thought her and KF were going out on the field together, not sure what happened in that scene. Both scenarios could've used some KF, but I am guessing they just wanted Iris on the field solo. I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO tired of Ralph and him grappling with whether to be a hero or not EVERY EPISODE. The episode did go by pretty quickly. If there was ever a time to do a two-part episode, this would have been it. It would have been fun to see Iris with powers for two episodes. Also, yeah, Ralph better be getting a heroic sacrifice redemption arc for this season. I actually enjoy Hartley Sawyer, but I feel so bad that he's stuck with such a static character. Ralph's done no growing up. He gets any growth, and it's immediately erased by his next episode. Seriously, this has to be leading to him sacrificing himself, right? 4 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said: Ralph's done no growing up. He gets any growth, and it's immediately erased by his next episode. Right? It's like by the end of an episode, there's a moment where I think, "hmm, I don't quite hate him anymore." And then the next episode begins and reminds me, "Yep, hate him." I didn't mind his last scene with Iris. Would I have rather they had Iris and Caitlin talk instead of Caitlin just going, "You go, girl" (twice, I think)? Yes. Very much yes. 1 Link to comment
Sakura12 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 I decided not to watch the Flash and wait to hear what others thought of it. Sounds like it was only slightly better then the previous Iris episode which was basically a joke. It's probably not worth it to watch the whole episode. I'll just see if there's any clips on YT with the Iris scenes. 3 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, quarks said: Ralph is the worst. Could not agree more. I stopped watching Flash at the beginning of last season, but tuned in for a couple of episodes at the beginning of this one. Despite my infinite hatred for Barry, Ralph is the one who made me turn off the TV because I just couldn't take it any more. Link to comment
WindofChange March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, quarks said: Ralph is the worst. The second Ralph called Caitlin by her bra size was the second I started hating him and there's no coming back from that. 3 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Unrounded preliminary numbers from RJK at SpottedRatings: The Flash ........................... 0.699 ... (0.728 ... 0.670) Black Lightning ................... 0.482 ... (0.500 ... 0.464) 1 Link to comment
WindofChange March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Velocity23 said: Unrounded preliminary numbers from RJK at SpottedRatings: The Flash ........................... 0.699 ... (0.728 ... 0.670) Black Lightning ................... 0.482 ... (0.500 ... 0.464) Compared to last week which isn't a big change... Quote The Flash .............................. 0.714 ... (0.721 ... 0.707) Black Lightning ...................... 0.478 ... (0.507 ... 0.449) Link to comment
lemotomato March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 (edited) That's a pretty big half hour drop this week compared to last week. Edited March 14, 2018 by lemotomato Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 That's also a pretty big drop week to week, Flash unrounded is now under 0.7 Link to comment
Sakura12 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 It's more sad for Black Lightning, none of the Arrowverse shows were hitting a 0.5 in their first season. I wonder with it not performing as well that they will make BL part of the Arrowverse next season. Link to comment
JJ928 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 (edited) I hope CW does what they did with Riverdale, and promote the shit out of it during hiatus. I always wondered if BL would've done better had it taken that Arrow Wed 8pm spot, maybe it would've flopped on its own, but I think it deserved a better slot. I know the perception is that Flash is a good lead it, and maybe it is, but the shows are so tonally different that they just don't pair well imo . Legends definitely fit better with Flash. If they managed to get Riverdale up this season (and I know it's dropped dramatically), then I don't see why they can't put similar effort into BL. I feel like BL didn't get good promotion before its premier, other than that DC event, everything leading up to it was lackluster. Edited March 14, 2018 by JJ928 4 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Black Lightning needs to be an 8pm show. Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Iris's "episode" was too cluttered with the other storylines. I guess she was the A storyline but they gave nearly as much attention to Well and Cisco and Ralph moping around being an ass made me want to gouge his eyes out. Barry too wasn't much of a ray of sunshine. Which given the circumstances, I get but all and all it made for a kind of a bummer of an episode. The one thing it might have done right though is reset Iris's character for the future so that she actually takes back some individual agency. She admitted that she'd kind of been hiding from the world in the lab, quitting her job when Barry went missing and focusing everything on directing the team from the lab. And I liked that she brought up that having powers isn't how she's meant to save the world, that was what her reporting and writing was for. I'm not sure how practical reviving her old blog about Flash appearances is when they are kind of trying to keep a secret identity going (and for once, Barry didn't tell the new meta who he is though he exposed everyone else on the team, lol) but I like that Iris acknowledged that she needs her own thing and that she at least set in the right direction of recapturing her old fire. Now let's see if they actually work it into the show in the future but if they do, this is the episode that did the course correction. 8 Link to comment
WindofChange March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said: The one thing it might have done right though is reset Iris's character for the future so that she actually takes back some individual agency. She admitted that she'd kind of been hiding from the world in the lab, quitting her job when Barry went missing and focusing everything on directing the team from the lab. And I liked that she brought up that having powers isn't how she's meant to save the world, that was what her reporting and writing was for. Blogging isn't really a storyline for her, but it's definitely a good first baby step. Hopefully they can incorporate it into the show in a unique way. 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said: I'm not sure how practical reviving her old blog about Flash appearances is when they are kind of trying to keep a secret identity going (and for once, Barry didn't tell the new meta who he is though he exposed everyone else on the team, lol) but I like that Iris acknowledged that she needs her own thing and that she at least set in the right direction of recapturing her old fire. Now let's see if they actually work it into the show in the future but if they do, this is the episode that did the course correction. I suspect maybe they brought back the blogging because she can do that from anywhere and it's a relatively solitary activity - so they don't have to devote any sets or extra characters to maintaining that kind of storyline (if they intend to). And this way she'll always be working on something Flash-related, so they can easily just bring it back when the story calls for it. 4 Link to comment
Trini March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 6:33 PM, Primal Slayer said: What did she say about the OG mask? Because this one sucks. Found it! Quote What was it like to put on the mask? PATTON: The mask was a bit of a challenge, and it evolved through trial and error. HELBING: You decide, “Candice is gonna have powers!,” and then you design the costume, but you have to figure out the mask and how to organically fit that into the story. The first version we had her put on, I got this text from Candice that was, “This is not happening!” PATTON: It was supposed to be Ralph Dibney’s mask, but he’s a structured man, so that was not cute on my face. We put it on at the fitting and I immediately told Todd, “No.” I trolled him, all day, sending him photos of what I thought I looked like, like a Minion. I was like, “Please don’t make me look like this on screen.” I trolled him all day with photos, until he said, “Okay, let’s figure something else out.” HELBING: As a guy, sometimes I don’t know what’s gonna look the best. PATTON: Finally, we came up with the Domino mask. HELBING: It looks great! PATTON: You just stick some tape on it and stick it on your face. It’s not super fun, but it’s not a cowl. http://collider.com/the-flash-season-4-episode-16-candice-patton-interview/#cw 3 Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Thanks! That was a funny read. They seem a bit lazy to not make her own unique mask. 1 Link to comment
Trini March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 I'm sayin'. Even if it was still going to be a domino mask, at least change the shape/silhouette so that it isn't exactly the same as Jesse's mask 1 Link to comment
JJ928 March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 (edited) There was no reason not to make her a mask to go with her outfit better. One offs get a mask all the time. Edited March 14, 2018 by JJ928 Link to comment
apinknightmare March 14, 2018 Share March 14, 2018 Yeah, them not making her a mask is surprising to me. And she still wound up kinda looking like a minion anyway. Link to comment
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