S08.E06: Mōhala i ka wai ka maka o ka pua (Unfolded by the Water are the Faces of the Flowers)

[BW Manilowe]

The murder of two tourists leads Five-0 to a man suffering from multiple personality disorder, where one of them becomes violent and another is a child. McGarrett is accompanied on the case by a stress management consultant, whom Danny and the others have hired to help him manage his health.

Original Airdate: November 10, 2017

SOURCE: https://cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/hawaii-five-0/releases/view?id=48755

[Roselle]

Awww ...That was rather sweet. The writers are trying extremely hard to create the ohana feels after the exit of Chin & Kono and they did a pretty good job here - especially with keeping the Danny & Steve relationship at its heart. Now they just need to develop a decent case-driven arc to drive all these characters on. 

[walnutqueen]

10 hours ago, Roselle said:

Awww ...That was rather sweet. The writers are trying extremely hard to create the ohana feels after the exit of Chin & Kono and they did a pretty good job here - especially with keeping the Danny & Steve relationship at its heart. Now they just need to develop a decent case-driven arc to drive all these characters on. 

They also need to keep Dog the Bounty Hunter off my screen.

[preeya]

Worst episode ever.

[HurricaneVal]

The continuity department must have been on vacation for this episode.  When filmed from below swimming with the dog, Steve was clearly wearing red swim trunks.  When he got out of the water, they were black.  During the scene in Steve's office between the stress counselor and Danny, the window scenery loop showing through the blinds over Danny's shoulder was glitched--the branches were waving impossibly fast, almost in a jittering motion, then would sort of abruptly reset to the start position and start jittering again.  The pattern repeated several times during the scene.  I also think they were using a body double for Scott Caan earlier in the scene for the stress counselor's lines.  You would see her full face, but only Danny's shoulder, ear, and the back portion of the left side of his face.  For some reason, it just didn't look like Scott Caan to me.  There was just something "off" about it.  Later in the episode, there were some weird background stuff too, but I can't remember what it was.

Odd episode, really.  The CotW was an interesting concept, and I loved how casual Duke and the real HPD cops were when the fake cop came into the station.  It was nice to see their professionalism and extreme competence.  And eeeeewwwww to donning the dress the mom died in, not to mention confronting the killer/crazy guy all alone like that.  Also?  Eeeeewwwww to tuna fish with extra mayo and lengthwise sliced banana sandwiches.

The whole intervention thing and subsequent stress counselor evaluation was just out of place...and kind of weird.  Steve took it way more calmly than I would have, and I really don't think Danny would have done all that.  He knows what their job us, there is no way to remove the stress, and there is no way it is a good idea for them to be shadowed by a civilian as they go about their dangerous day.  All that could have been better.  I get it was supposed to be the light B-plot, but the laughs fell flat, and it seemed too invasive.  But it brought some good McDanno, so I'm not going to complain.

[illdoc]

I actually fell asleep during the episode! I made it up to the fake cop at the real police station, answering the phone. Then I think they went to commercial and...that's it.

[fishcakes]

There was a decent amount of Eddie so I didn't completely hate this one, but in general anytime a show goes with a DID plot and has a character talking like a six-year-old, you know it's running on fumes.

[Passepartout]

C.O.T.W. is really or was really way two dimensional as put it in the background

Also in the really Danny needs therapy more than Steve. And really Steve in a sense needs to be honest. Despite the lack of emotions due to being in the military and being raised by a father who was never good at showing emotions.

Felt bad for the counselor but give her guts for being loyal. Danny is the source of Steve's stress and Steve is the source of Danny's stress. Danny can be negative and needs to be more positive. And Steve can at times be pretty selfish and needs to be a team player, not just a team leader. Like ordering stuff and having Danny pick up the check or anybody. Knowing how frugal he is and he makes more than the others under his watch.

[roamyn]

Steve also has major control issues.

[Passepartout]

52 minutes ago, roamyn said:

Steve also has major control issues.

Yeah as really that is why I think at times Steve is a major league bleep over that. He will not let his so called BFF drive his own car with him in it. That is called being insensitive!

[roamyn]

3 hours ago, Passepartout said:

Yeah as really that is why I think at times Steve is a major league bleep over that. He will not let his so called BFF drive his own car with him in it. That is called being insensitive!

It's not only that, but Steve gets all pissy when Danny won't share details of his personal life (like the retirement issue), yet gets his feathers ruffled when Danny asks abt his (ex. When Steve was going for coffee with presumably Lynn, in the middle of a work day).

[jhlipton]

I hope they found a good group-home that knows how to deal with cases like Oliver -- they kind of left his fate dangling.  They "can't lock him up" and they can't keep him loose, so where does he go?

[JessDVD]

This stress reliever lady is making me die a thousand deaths and we're only about 10 minutes in.

[roamyn]

They really dropped the ball w/Oliver's issues and his father's apparent criminal background.  That's not like the writers.

Did Oliver witness his father killing someone?  Was Pat Mathis a police mole for the mob?

[ganesh]

I don't think that's how radiation poisoning works. It's not like it's in him. He got a radiation dose. (Also he wouldn't have gotten that much of a dose from the uranium anyway.)

[ganesh]

On 11/11/2017 at 2:46 PM, HurricaneVal said:

Steve took it way more calmly than I would have, and I really don't think Danny would have done all that.  He knows what their job us, there is no way to remove the stress, and there is no way it is a good idea for them to be shadowed by a civilian as they go about their dangerous day. 

I thought she acted rather unprofessional too in the car. 

 

On 11/11/2017 at 5:08 PM, Passepartout said:

He will not let his so called BFF drive his own car with him in it. That is called being insensitive!

Danny's a grown man though. It's his car. He drives it or Steve can take his own. 

Didn't these two clowns go to marriage counseling at some point? I mean, at some point, these are adults. If they need this much extra help, maybe they need a leave of absence. 

I'd actually argue the opposite. Taking the ridiculousness of the show aside, they've all dealt with highly stressful situations fairly well. I think arguing in the car is just a way to blow off steam. 

I actually like CF's character.

Edited November 21, 2017 by ganesh

[BW Manilowe]

7 hours ago, ganesh said:

I thought she acted rather unprofessional too in the car. 

 

Danny's a grown man though. It's his car. He drives it or Steve can take his own. 

Didn't these two clowns go to marriage counseling at some point? I mean, at some point, these are adults. If they need this much extra help, maybe they need a leave of absence. 

I'd actually argue the opposite. Taking the ridiculousness of the show aside, they've all dealt with highly stressful situations fairly well. I think arguing in the car is just a way to blow off steam.

I actually like CF's character.

Who's CF? Forgive me, but the brain's not clicking right now & it's not coming to me.

[Orbert]

Claire Forlani.  She plays Dr. Alicia Brown, their new "advisor".

[BW Manilowe]

3 hours ago, Orbert said:

Claire Forlani.  She plays Dr. Alicia Brown, their new "advisor".

Oh duh... I should've remembered that. Thanks.

[roamyn]

11 hours ago, Orbert said:

Claire Forlani.  She plays Dr. Alicia Brown, their new "advisor".

I think she has more of a romantic connection w/Steve, than Lynn.

[ganesh]

Actually I don't get that from them, which is what I like. 

[webruce]

Sorry I VCR shows, so I get behind. Both the family intervention and Stress management lady, Chloe Gordon turned out to be a good story line. Was worried at first they would be a dumb back drop to the case of the week. But it turned out alright. Chloe or Danno didn't go to over board on the subject. Was funny to that Steve told Eddie he was a traitor. Steve telling all that Danny went down the WEBMD rabbit hole, was funny. Chloe didn't over play her position and scream or try to stop Steve in the course of doing his job. Also liked that team wasn't totally "all in on everything". Lou and Duane both had reservations but came along because they wanted to help Steve. The talk with Danny that both Chloe and Steve at the end had was good. It cleared a lot of air when Steve and Danny talked. It had to come out or they would both go insane eventually. Almost thought that Kamekona and Chloe would become a thing. But him telling her to leave his Shrimp Truck area for saying to cut back on Shrimp was probably irreversible, lol. But maybe Chloe could come back in another episode. Also it is nice to see Steve admit he is scared to of the radiation poisoning. But he must get regular check ups. Danno calling Steve his BFF was a bit odd, lol. But true. And yes, Lynn and Melissa talking about things like"how often, etc., did seem odd, but my wife let slip that when we were first together, her and her sister talked "kinda" the same way. She clammed up when I asked more, lol.

The "Case of the week" was very interesting. It is like a page out of Criminal Minds BAU case files. The actor playing Oliver Mathus did do a good job with multiple personalities and voices. They did a good job for what little time they had to develop it. Dr. Alicia Brown was useful in helping. Her watching the videos and then in Ollie's mom Claudia's dress worked out good. She knew what to say and what to do to help him and her not get shot. Also glad that Duke and his officers were smart enough to handle "Officer Pat Mathus" at the HPD without anyone getting hurt. Ofcourse the panels in the ceiling was another problem. But he didn't have time to think out all the possibilities.

Edited November 25, 2017 by webruce
removed wrong word.

[Passepartout]

Yeah and that Steve grew up without a lack of emotion to his family. And Danny is just the opposite. And really would love for Kamekona and Chloe to become an item. If she could just overcome the shrimp thing. 

And really I think that Steve will not change his ways despite being pretty selfish at times. And Danny knows he can't change him. Despite his whining.

Please give Duke a story please P.L!

[roamyn]

12 minutes ago, Passepartout said:

 

Please give Duke a story please P.L!

Yes!  And Sang Min.

[auntiemel]

I'm catching up on back episodes now. Interesting bit of trivia: a couple of years ago, I saw the play The Trouble We Come From, written by and featuring Scott Caan, that also starred Michael Weston. There was a Q&A afterward with Garry Marshall officiating, and Garry talked about how neat it was watching the two of them get to know each other and become close over the course of rehearsals. It was cool seeing Michael on H5-0 now, even though I don't think he and Scott even shared any scenes!

Edited February 10, 2018 by auntiemel

[BW Manilowe]

4 hours ago, auntiemel said:

I'm catching up on back episodes now. Interesting bit of trivia: a couple of years ago, I saw the play The Trouble We Come From, written by and featuring Scott Caan, that also starred Michael Weston. There was a Q&A afterward with Garry Marshall officiating, and Garry talked about how neat it was watching the two of them get to know each other and become close over the course of rehearsals. It was cool seeing Michael on H5-0 now, even though I don't think he and Scott even shared any scenes!

I had almost forgotten Michael Weston was on that ep. I don't think they shared any scenes either. But when another of Scott's friends & collaborators, Val Lauren (he was in No Way Around But Through the summer or 2 before the play with Weston), was on H50, he was in the S1 Finale & actually in a scene with Scott (& Alex). Val was the guy who worked in the military surplus store who told Steve & Danny that Steve (someone who looked like him/used his name, anyway) bought the Claymore mine that blew up in the car of Governor Jameson's Public Safety Liaison, Laura Hills, & killed her. For his trouble, among other things, Val's character got pepper sprayed in the eyes--I think by Scott's character, in fact--then he was killed, either by Governor Jameson ordering it, somehow, or by Wo Fat taking care of it, when the police escort taking him to court/jail/prison was ambushed.

I actually have a (less than) "6 Degrees of Separation" between me & Michael Weston.

A (now) woman named Jane Lanier, who was almost a year older than me, I think in Brownies &/or Junior Girl Scouts with me, & about a year ahead of me in high school, went on to an acting/dancing/choreography career (I think she left high school a year early to pursue her career; I don't remember her being there beyond when I was in 10th grade & she was in 11th--we had Biology together that year, as long as she was still in school, so between that & other stuff from earlier we actually were friends for awhile). She was even nominated for the Best Featured Actress in a Musical Tony Award, in 1989/the 43rd Annual Tony Awards, for her role in Jerome Robbins' Broadway (unfortunately she lost--I think to another actress from the same show).

Anyway, from 1992-2002, Jane was married to actor/musician/director John Rubinstein, son of the great concert pianist, Artur Rubinstein; he also co-starred in TV shows like Family & Crazy Like a Fox, among others. It was her first marriage & his second. They had 2 sons together.

It turns out that Michael Weston is John Rubinstein's son from his first marriage. He was born "Michael Rubinstein" to John Rubinstein & his first wife, actress Judi West, in 1973. But he had to change his name--he chose Michael Weston--in 2000, because there was already a "Michael Rubinstein" in the Screen Actors Guild & there aren't supposed to be 2 SAG (SAG-AFTRA) members with the same name in the union at the same time. And my former classmate, scout troop mate, & friend, Jane Lanier, was Michael Weston's stepmother/his father's wife from when Michael was approximately 19 to 29 years old.

[auntiemel]

Oh, John Rubinstein is a classic Hey, It's That Guy! And by all accounts, a pleasant and generous professional collaborator. So, I would imagine that he and Scott had very different experiences growing up with their actor fathers. LOL.

Sidenote, during the Q&A, an audience member asked if Scott would ever cast his father in one of his plays. Scott was very thoughtful about the answer, and ultimately said it would depend on a lot of factors. But Garry Marshall just burst out laughing and was like, "That would be a terrible idea. Terrible!" Oh, man. He was such a treasure!

[BW Manilowe]

2 hours ago, auntiemel said:

Oh, John Rubinstein is a classic Hey, It's That Guy! And by all accounts, a pleasant and generous professional collaborator. So, I would imagine that he and Scott had very different experiences growing up with their actor fathers. LOL.

Side note, during the Q&A, an audience member asked if Scott would ever cast his father in one of his plays. Scott was very thoughtful about the answer, and ultimately said it would depend on a lot of factors. But Garry Marshall just burst out laughing and was like, "That would be a terrible idea. Terrible!" Oh, man. He was such a treasure!

From what we know of Scott's relationship with his Dad while growing up, & what John Rubinstein seems like, yeah, I'd probably guess he & his apparent friend, Michael Weston, had different experiences growing up with their actor fathers. Of course, I've never seen or heard Michael say anything about his relationship with his father, so my guess could be a load of crap. LOL.

Back while they were still married, I remember Jane & John came to town & did a performance/reading of the play Love Letters as a benefit for I'm not sure what (& so far I'm not pairing the right search terms to see if I can find info on it). I didn't get to go, but I always thought it was cool somebody I actually knew became that famous & married somebody famous, & then they came back here at least once (but probably more, privately, since she has family here).