oceanblue December 16, 2024 Share December 16, 2024 that makes sense. what makes no sense is for Dougie LeClare Jr. to change his name to Doug Williams III, when there was no Junior, in order to honor a man he never met and dishonor the family that raised him. 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8534198
DaphneCat December 16, 2024 Share December 16, 2024 2 hours ago, oceanblue said: that makes sense. what makes no sense is for Dougie LeClare Jr. to change his name to Doug Williams III, when there was no Junior, in order to honor a man he never met and dishonor the family that raised him. You're right. He would be Doug Williams ll NOT Doug Williams lll. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8534320
salvame December 16, 2024 Share December 16, 2024 On 12/14/2024 at 5:57 AM, Rodney said: On 12/14/2024 at 2:33 AM, DisneyBoy said: Siiiiiiiiiiigh. Of course she's pregnant 😒 Look there's this thing called Safe Sex that young people should know about cuz it isn't new or anything. They did use safe sex. Uh, yeah. They made such a big deal about using a condom, and never freaked out that it broke, so I'm gonna call foul here. She's either lying or they're gonna retcon. Pathetic either way. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8534350
brisbydog December 17, 2024 Share December 17, 2024 (edited) **Monday December 23** JJ and Gabi share a close moment Rafe delivers Hattie to Leo EJ demands that Kristen fire Belle Ava reveals a threat to Brady **Tuesday, December 24** An old acquaintance pays EJ a visit Rafe confides in Steve Kayla worries about Stephanie **Wednesday, December 25** Julie questions Doug III Xander and Sarah enjoy the Christmas festivities Tate and Holly share an intimate moment **Thursday, December 26** Eli, Lani, Abe and Pauline celebrate the twins birthdays Ava asks Steve for help Marlena confides in Brady on how much she misses John **Friday, December 27** Leo does Doug III a solid Jada and Rafe finally settle on a wedding date Tate and Sophia’s plan is derailed by Holly EJ struggles with an unwanted houseguest Edited December 19, 2024 by brisbydog 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8534911
DisneyBoy December 17, 2024 Share December 17, 2024 Guess EJ gets shot next Friday then. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8535225
brisbydog December 17, 2024 Share December 17, 2024 1 hour ago, DisneyBoy said: Guess EJ gets shot next Friday then. I don't think that happens until the spring. I think fake Rafe is moving in 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8535293
DisneyBoy December 17, 2024 Share December 17, 2024 Wait....Fake Rafe? I missed that whole storyline but...why on earth would he be needed again? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8535303
Rodney December 17, 2024 Share December 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said: Wait....Fake Rafe? I missed that whole storyline but...why on earth would he be needed again? He can't be back, because he was killed while in lockup. It's the only reason that Stefano and E.J. were able to get off for that scheme. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8535309
brisbydog December 17, 2024 Share December 17, 2024 39 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said: Wait....Fake Rafe? I missed that whole storyline but...why on earth would he be needed again? He was in the Day of days promo. I think he kicks off the Johnny finds out he was conceived by rape story 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8535328
CanaryFan98 December 18, 2024 Share December 18, 2024 Kayla actually has a scene about Stephanie? I'm legit surprised because it seems like this show forgets that Steve/Kayla are her parents half the time. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8535336
brisbydog December 21, 2024 Share December 21, 2024 Monday, December 30, 2024 Holly thwarts Tate and Sophia’s plans EJ finds himself caught up in a predicament Tuesday, December 31, 2024 Rafe is stunned to see an old enemy Sophia’s mother reprimands Tate. Wednesday, January 1, 2025 Alex and Stephanie secure dates for NYE Belle has a surprise for EJ Chanel and Johnny throw a New Year’s Eve party. Thursday, January 2, 2025 EJ flirts with Belle Chanel confronts Johnny. Philip and Stephanie both make admissions. Friday, January 3, 2025 Paulina supports Chanel Abe offers a sympathetic ear to Johnny Gabi and JJ decide to take their relationship to the next level. A LOOK AHEAD in 2025 The new head writers’ material will start airing on April 24, 2025 Doug III and Holly find their attraction for one another Sophia continues to weave a tangled web with Tate and Holly Steve makes it his mission to keep looking for John Brady and Ava grow closer 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8537791
Rodney December 21, 2024 Share December 21, 2024 One of the most interesting points of all that is that we're meeting Sophia's mother. I'd heard that they were also bringing on the Chois as well as the Greenes, so I'm wondering what Mrs. Choi is going to be like. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8537873
brisbydog December 21, 2024 Share December 21, 2024 3 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538078
Frozendiva December 21, 2024 Share December 21, 2024 Jack and Xander have a delightfully unlikely friendship. That works. 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538135
DisneyBoy December 21, 2024 Share December 21, 2024 6 hours ago, brisbydog said: Sophia’s mother reprimands Tate. Was wondering when we'd meet her. 6 hours ago, brisbydog said: The new head writers’ material will start airing on April 24, 2025 I'm trying not to get my hopes up but I'm really curious how they will correct course. Also, are they the ones who came up with the "Johnny finds out about the rape" plotline? That bodes well, at least in my eyes. Maybe they'll stop letting certain characters off the hook. 4 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538201
methodwriter85 December 21, 2024 Share December 21, 2024 7 hours ago, brisbydog said: Doug III and Holly find their attraction for one another They've been vague about his age but I'm going with 21. Old enough where he could date Joy or a possibly single Chanel, but young enough that he could date Holly without it being creepy. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538209
brisbydog December 21, 2024 Share December 21, 2024 I have heard he's 21 And Ron wrote the EJ and Johnny stuff 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538230
Rodney December 22, 2024 Share December 22, 2024 On 12/20/2024 at 11:17 PM, Frozendiva said: Jack and Xander have a delightfully unlikely friendship. That works. I wouldn't say "delightfully." Nor would I say that it works. It has always made zero sense to me. Absolute zero. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538685
brisbydog December 22, 2024 Share December 22, 2024 27 minutes ago, Rodney said: I wouldn't say "delightfully." Nor would I say that it works. It has always made zero sense to me. Absolute zero. It makes perfect sense to me. Jack was once Xander. He wants to guide him. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538699
DisneyBoy December 22, 2024 Share December 22, 2024 Jack is so awkward now I don't see anyone easily being friends with him. I'm glad to see JJ and Gabi together again... 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538755
Rodney December 22, 2024 Share December 22, 2024 2 hours ago, brisbydog said: It makes perfect sense to me. Jack was once Xander. He wants to guide him. And what happened the first time he tried to? Hmm? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538775
CanaryFan98 December 22, 2024 Share December 22, 2024 2 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: Jack is so awkward now I don't see anyone easily being friends with him. I'm glad to see JJ and Gabi together again... Jack has always been awkward and it was usually the case of someone not easily being friends with him. I think Isabella was an exception though. The rest of the friends he has now didn't exactly happen overnight from what I recall. I think JJ/Gabi are rushing this but for a short term thing I'm ok. I'm sure Stefan will return soon. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538791
oceanblue December 23, 2024 Share December 23, 2024 I like the Jack Xander friendship as well. I will always have a soft spot for Jack. He had a real redemption back in the day when things like that would be written over time. And the actor played it well and he also played the lighthearted funny Jack well. Xander has some of the same qualities without the slow redemption arc. 3 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538828
Retired at last December 23, 2024 Share December 23, 2024 Even if I hadn't heard about the return of the "Fake Rafe" story, I would have been suspicious why all of a sudden there are Rafe mentions - a few of them. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8538947
brisbydog December 25, 2024 Share December 25, 2024 (edited) Full spoilers for next week. SO much EJ Days of our Lives Spoilers for Monday, December 30: EJ gets stuck between a rock and a hard place. Tate and Sophia’s plans are stymied thanks to Holly. Ava is on the receiving end of some sharp questioning care of Sophia. Jada has a special proposal for Paulina. Days of our Lives Spoilers for Tuesday, December 31: Rafe is shocked when he spots an enemy from his past. Paulina gets a vaguely threatening warning from EJ. Brady’s life is about to change thanks to what Ava tells him. Holly opens up to Doug III, who is more than happy to listen. Tate gets a talking to from Sophia’s miffed mother Days of our Lives Spoilers for Wednesday, January 1: Chanel and Johnny have a bash to ring in the new year. EJ gets a surprise courtesy of Belle. Jada can’t help but notice that something is off about Rafe. Gabi is reluctant to join the party. Alex and Stephanie get dates for New Year’s Eve Days of our Lives Spoilers for Thursday, January 2: Johnny is confronted by Chanel. Philip and Stephanie both have confessions they need to make. EJ turns on the charm with Belle JJ and Gabi take their relationship to the next level Days of our Lives Spoilers for Friday, January 3: Gabi and JJ are interrupted in a delicate moment thanks to Javi. Joy and Alex have an awkward morning together. Paulina gives Chanel her care and support. Abe offers his ear for Johnny as he vents about what’s happened. Edited December 25, 2024 by brisbydog 2 1 1 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8540332
DisneyBoy December 26, 2024 Share December 26, 2024 Thanks for always posting these! 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8540515
brisbydog December 26, 2024 Share December 26, 2024 3 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: Thanks for always posting these! Good to know what days to skip! If I see the letters L,E,O in conjunction I know to avoid 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8540541
SouthernChick December 28, 2024 Share December 28, 2024 I’m here for Philip and Stephanie Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8541583
DisneyBoy December 28, 2024 Share December 28, 2024 Ok so Sophia's (well-cast!) mother is from the last century? What is this "you WILL be coparents forever because I say so!" mindset? Lady, that makes no sense. Shut up. ....such a forced storyline. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8541593
SouthernChick December 28, 2024 Share December 28, 2024 (edited) 45 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said: If Tate agrees to get with Sophia “for the baby’s sake” like her weird mother wants him to, he’s an idiot. Edited December 28, 2024 by SouthernChick 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8541595
Soapy Goddess December 28, 2024 Share December 28, 2024 4 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: Ok so Sophia's (well-cast!) mother is from the last century? What is this "you WILL be coparents forever because I say so!" mindset? Lady, that makes no sense. Shut up. ....such a forced storyline. Some cultures (esp. Asian) still think that way, so I'm okay with it if that's the direction they're going with. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8541644
brisbydog December 28, 2024 Share December 28, 2024 9 hours ago, SouthernChick said: I’m here for Philip and Stephanie Me too!! She needs someone quirky to pull out her own weird vibes. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8541669
DisneyBoy December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 (edited) I really hope Lucas plays a role in the EJ Raped Sami plotline. I mean...him being in jeopardy was the reason it happened, right? And he's been like a father to all of Sami's kids. Edited December 29, 2024 by DisneyBoy 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542022
methodwriter85 December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 (edited) On 12/27/2024 at 10:49 PM, DisneyBoy said: Ok so Sophia's (well-cast!) mother is from the last century? What is this "you WILL be coparents forever because I say so!" mindset? Lady, that makes no sense. Shut up. ....such a forced storyline. I don't know though. Republicans managed to roll back Roe v. Wade, so I don't think this is that forced or out of time, really. (I really don't want to bring politics in this but this is a political issue.) I just don't think was necessary at all. I get the vibe he's trying to recreate Belle and Shawn via the Jan Spears baby plot, but I don't care about Tate and Holly so this is all moot for me. Edited December 29, 2024 by methodwriter85 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542023
nilyank December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 28 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said: I really hope Lucas plays a role in the EJ Raped Sami plotline. I mean...him being in jeopardy was the reason it happened, right? And he's been like a father to all of Sami's kids. He has not been like a father to all of Sami's kids. She was with Rafe longer than she was with Lucas when she was raising her younger children and then she was raising them with EJ and then she raised them alone out of Salem while Lucas remained in Salem. I still annoyed that EJ didn't refuse to save Lucas' life and I would have been spared Lucas annoying presence on this show for the past two decades as he is the only character that I hate more than Nicole. Barely. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542030
oceanblue December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 Nilyank don't hold back, tell us how you really feel. 😃 I am late to the party on Christmas episodes but I got all misty at the ornament hanging. I love how they linger over all the ornaments even of people who most viewers don't know. The Doug and Julie first Christmas was sweet, but what made me laugh a bit was it the point in the story where he was her side piece while she was married to Scott Banning and before he married her mother. Theirs was a broken road to happily ever after and I never tired of watching them. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542116
DisneyBoy December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 12 hours ago, methodwriter85 said: I don't know though. Republicans managed to roll back Roe v. Wade, so I don't think this is that forced or out of time, really. (I really don't want to bring politics in this but this is a political issue.) I just don't think was necessary at all. I get the vibe he's trying to recreate Belle and Shawn via the Jan Spears baby plot, but I don't care about Tate and Holly so this is all moot for me. I got the exact same vibe - and I hate Jan for being such a gross caricature - so the whole thing is a turnoff. Plus, have we even had enough time with Holly and Tate to root for them? Are we just supposed to want them together because...they look pretty? I don't get it. We've already seen better storytelling between him and Sophia. Their gradual relationship has felt more rootable. Holly hasn't been a good girlfriend or crush thus far. But now they're using the "keeping the baby to keep the man" trope just to make Sophia look bad. As written, she seems too smart to not get an abortion. She isn't out of high school. Tate doesn't love her and even said Holly's name during sex. Frankly I'm stunned they didn't use protection (again, Sophia seems too smart not to). I also don't buy her getting bossed around by her mother or anyone for that matter. She's never seemed hugely religious either, so.....?? It's like the Sloan baby snatching all over again. Makes no sense. Plot-driven writing. 12 hours ago, nilyank said: He has not been like a father to all of Sami's kids. She was with Rafe longer than she was with Lucas when she was raising her younger children and then she was raising them with EJ and then she raised them alone out of Salem while Lucas remained in Salem. Fair. I only meant that between losing Rafe and EJ dying and needing care for something like seven years, Lucas was probably the most reliable Father Figure they had in their lives. He's been Will's Dad consistently, and he went to help Allie through her drinking problems. Until recently he hadn't been in jail. Generally stable. 12 hours ago, nilyank said: I still annoyed that EJ didn't refuse to save Lucas' life and I would have been spared Lucas annoying presence on this show for the past two decades as he is the only character that I hate more than Nicole. Barely. Oooookaaaay 😄 I used to dislike him too, actually, but Bryan D always brings good energy to the part. I think the writing has largely been to blame. He was insufferable for years in the 90s and that followed him. Being paired with scheming Sami didn't help. They were often unpleasant. 3 hours ago, oceanblue said: what made me laugh a bit was it the point in the story where he was her side piece while she was married to Scott Banning and before he married her mother. Theirs was a broken road to happily ever after and I never tired of watching them. Juicy! Didn't know that. But really, who marries their mother's husband? Oh Julie... 2 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542185
Rodney December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 18 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said: Plus, have we even had enough time with Holly and Tate to root for them? Um . . . yes? Been together for over a year now, so I think that that qualifies as enough time. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542196
DanaMB December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Rodney said: Um . . . yes? Been together for over a year now, so I think that that qualifies as enough time. Ummm.... I don't think they have been together for a year. Known each other, been on our screens, yes. Together as a couple? No. 2 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542261
Rodney December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, DanaMB said: Ummm.... I don't think they have been together for a year. Known each other, been on our screens, yes. Together as a couple? No. Still, long enough that I care. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542302
DanaMB December 29, 2024 Share December 29, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Rodney said: Still, long enough that I care. Good for you. Edited December 29, 2024 by DanaMB 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542326
oceanblue December 30, 2024 Share December 30, 2024 Well people do have a right to care. I don't care but I will support Rodney's right to do so to the death. At least until the next time I voice an opinion and he tells me it's stupid. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542354
Rodney December 30, 2024 Share December 30, 2024 52 minutes ago, oceanblue said: Well people do have a right to care. I don't care but I will support Rodney's right to do so to the death. At least until the next time I voice an opinion and he tells me it's stupid. Which will probably be very soon. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542378
Ohiopirate02 December 30, 2024 Share December 30, 2024 19 hours ago, DisneyBoy said: I got the exact same vibe - and I hate Jan for being such a gross caricature - so the whole thing is a turnoff. Plus, have we even had enough time with Holly and Tate to root for them? Are we just supposed to want them together because...they look pretty? I don't get it. We've already seen better storytelling between him and Sophia. Their gradual relationship has felt more rootable. Holly hasn't been a good girlfriend or crush thus far. But now they're using the "keeping the baby to keep the man" trope just to make Sophia look bad. As written, she seems too smart to not get an abortion. She isn't out of high school. Tate doesn't love her and even said Holly's name during sex. Frankly I'm stunned they didn't use protection (again, Sophia seems too smart not to). I also don't buy her getting bossed around by her mother or anyone for that matter. She's never seemed hugely religious either, so.....?? It's like the Sloan baby snatching all over again. Makes no sense. Plot-driven writing. I can't help but think that Sophia will lose the baby, and possibly blame Holly for it. It would be a nice callback to Nicole's previous behavior if only Nicole was still in Salem. 2 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8542951
brisbydog December 31, 2024 Share December 31, 2024 Monday, January 6, 2025 Rafe suggests an alliance with EJ. Tuesday, January 7, 2025 Leo and Javi reconcile. Wednesday, January 8, 2025 Sophia updates Holly on her situation with Tate. Thursday, January 9, 2025 Philip and Xander cross swords. Friday, January 10, 2025 Sarah warns Xander to stay on the right side of the law. Holly presses Doug for the truth 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8543295
Ohiopirate02 December 31, 2024 Share December 31, 2024 20 hours ago, brisbydog said: Thursday, January 9, 2025 Philip and Xander cross swords. I read too much romance and quickly misinterpreted this one. I know it's not that kind of sword crossing, and Philip and Xander share the same father though that is not necessarily a deal-breaker on some parts of the internet. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8543761
brisbydog January 1 Share January 1 5 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said: I read too much romance and quickly misinterpreted this one. I know it's not that kind of sword crossing, and Philip and Xander share the same father though that is not necessarily a deal-breaker on some parts of the internet. My brain went there too. 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8543909
salvame January 1 Share January 1 Why do I feel this baby is actually Aaron Green's. Maybe it's wishful thinking? To have it be the thing that pushes Holly and Salem's newest miscreant together is just wrong. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8543920
Rodney January 1 Share January 1 6 minutes ago, salvame said: Why do I feel this baby is actually Aaron Greene's? Maybe it's wishful thinking? To have it be the thing that pushes Holly and Salem's newest miscreant together is just wrong. I've been thinking that it's Aaron's baby for some time now. Like, maybe they had sex offscreen while they were hanging out soon after Aaron told Sophia about his mother being in danger. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8543925
boes January 1 Author Share January 1 On 12/30/2024 at 5:08 PM, brisbydog said: Philip and Xander cross swords. 7 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said: I read too much romance and quickly misinterpreted this one. I know it's not that kind of sword crossing, and Philip and Xander share the same father though that is not necessarily a deal-breaker on some parts of the internet. 2 hours ago, brisbydog said: My brain went there too. My mind also zipped off in that direction but came to a screeching halt when I realized that even with that scenario, this JPL version of Philip trying to cross swords with Xander would be Philip wielding a butter knife against Xander with the sword. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6224-spoilers-and-shockers/page/458/#findComment-8543960
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