S07.E15: Hong Kong Fireworks

[Jel]

Wow, I also learned something today. Thank you, Giselle.

I'm seriously going to have to rethink my all stretchy-no wrinkle travel pants...they must be all kinds of flammable.

[TurtlePower]

4 hours ago, Giselle said:

When flying I wear natural fibers and leather shoes either flat/low soles or sneakers. When I was a student pilot one of my instructors showed me pictures of what melted polyester on skin could do when there is fire in the cockpit and if your still lucky enough to survive a crash but not the burns. Some things stick with you.

I kinda knew this from helicopter extractions but, this settles it: I'm wearing my wildland fire trousers, boots and shirt next time I fly. 

[Giselle]

4 hours ago, jaync said:

That's terrible. Did she not have any children to burn?

Oooh come sit by me!

>;->

Smartypants! And I say that as a compliment.

Edited March 21, 2017 by Giselle

[Giselle]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I don't think Erika has made any secret out of the fact she is spoiled by her husband,  I always worry when a major wage earner retires, becomes disabled or dies if there is enough money in the kitty to keep the lifestyle going.  I for one am cheering for Erika on DWTS because if she wins she gives her partner her Lamborghini - not a bad payday a quarter of a million dollar car. 

I find RInna's attempts at making her dog relevant, lacking-can't anyone have a moment without Rinna trying to compete?,

I don't watch DWTS. I don't want Erica to win and yes it is a case of BEC (bitch eating crackers) but if she does I'm happy for her partner.

Wouldn't he have to pay a gift tax on that? It could even end up being a white elephant.

[notnowimbusy]

So, just saw the new clip - and Eileen makes a comment which sets off Erika and Eileen tries to backtrack, diffuse and looks gob smacked at Erika's reaction. 

[Giselle]

19 minutes ago, notnowimbusy said:

So, just saw the new clip - and Eileen makes a comment which sets off Erika and Eileen tries to backtrack, diffuse and looks gob smacked at Erika's reaction. 

Would you please link this? I've tried other links and all I get is the preview that was at the end of this episode last week. Just shows Erica crying, Rinna comforting, and Dorit catching flies with her gaping mouth. Nothing shows Eileen's comment

Thanks. 

Edited March 21, 2017 by Giselle

[notnowimbusy]

Giselle - it won't let me link.  It's on RHBH facebook page.  Scroll down just a bit and you see the video and it says  "This is where the S&*% hits the fan". 

[Jamie Satyr]

20 minutes ago, notnowimbusy said:

Giselle - it won't let me link.  It's on RHBH facebook page.  Scroll down just a bit and you see the video and it says  "This is where the S&*% hits the fan". 

It's what people thought for the most part; just getting there seemed more suspect! I don't miss crowds getting older and older because there was always someone who's head was so screwed up, they took something I said wrong! The whole party is trying to calm this one person down because she decided Eileen invoked her kid's death! STUPID! ;-(

Edited March 21, 2017 by Jamie Satyr
Corrected spelling

[Giselle]

13 minutes ago, notnowimbusy said:

Giselle - it won't let me link.  It's on RHBH facebook page.  Scroll down just a bit and you see the video and it says  "This is where the S&*% hits the fan". 

Thanks it worked! You have to scroll down too see the clip.

https://m.facebook.com/RealHousewivesofBeverlyHills/

Looks like "Miss. Meddlesome Buttinski" Eileen finds out how LVP felt last year. Careful with your words darling and not once in the clip did she utter a quick I'm sorry.

[Jel]

OOh, thank you for that link!

I guess "So, when did the affair start then?" is looking pretty good about now.

[notnowimbusy]

I want to know what leads up to Eileen figuring this is the perfect analogy for Erika to forgive somebody.    I'm not buying that those tears are coming only from the stupid comment about her son. I think she realized how absolutely ridiculous her glam squad overmade her for a simple night at dinner, and lost her mind.

[Jamie Satyr]

1 minute ago, notnowimbusy said:

I want to know what leads up to Eileen figuring this is the perfect analogy for Erika to forgive somebody.    I'm not buying that those tears are coming only from the stupid comment about her son. I think she realized how absolutely ridiculous her glam squad overmade her for a simple night at dinner, and lost her mind.

She's looking less and less real! It's just being LAYERED on with a spatula or trowel! Erika's starting to fall in my esteem as time goes on! ;-(

[IKnowRight]

We have to be missing something big here...I was stunned to see Erika's reaction, Wow, just a wee bit angry for the conversation that we see as viewers.  

[Granimal]

On 3/16/2017 at 0:48 AM, AndySmith said:

Is there anything particularly wrong with queens? Do they not meet the standards of male masculinity? Are straight women not allowed to associate with them? Are they not "cool" enough for people to be friends with? This is borderline homophobic.

I wondered the same thing.

Sorry, SAI, I believe you re-posted the following quote made by a different poster(?), I don't know why your name is attached to this! My apologies!

On 3/16/2017 at 7:51 AM, Sai said:

 

ErICKa is SO insecure. Anyone who has to travel with queens OBVIOUSLY is a LOSER

Actually, traveling with queens is fun as hell! Heh.

Also, am I the only person that watches the show that didn't know that Ericka's friends/ glam squad/ whoever they are- were drag queens? That would certainly explain the makeup.

[Trooper York]

Wow!

Thanks for the link. Erika is freaking awesome. She shut that shit right down. They all took a step back. Even Pinky kept her yap shut.

I think this was filmed when all the police officers were being assassinated. You can understand why she freaked out.

[IKnowRight]

1 minute ago, Trooper York said:

Wow!

Thanks for the link. Erika is freaking awesome. She shut that shit right down. They all took a step back. Even Pinky kept her yap shut.

I think this was filmed when all the police officers were being assassinated. You can understand why she freaked out.

That's a good point, there was probably a recent incident when this was filmed...we are definitely in the dark about some major issues going on in her life.  

[zoeysmom]

18 minutes ago, Trooper York said:

Wow!

Thanks for the link. Erika is freaking awesome. She shut that shit right down. They all took a step back. Even Pinky kept her yap shut.

I think this was filmed when all the police officers were being assassinated. You can understand why she freaked out.

I am going to predict Rinna started it.  Eileen got sucked in trying to defend RInna and had an epic fail.

[lunastartron]

26 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I am going to predict Rinna started it.  Eileen got sucked in trying to defend RInna and had an epic fail.

This must be Erika's great sense of humor that I keep hearing about. Eileen uses a figure of speech to make a point and Erika starts yelling "don't talk about my kid" ... even though Eileen wasn't talking about that kid in anything remotely approaching a literal sense. 

Not to mention, no one better talk about Erika's kid but she can "talk about" Jagger and Phoenix on Twitter?

I actually think Eileen was (shockingly, but consistent with her newfound sanity where Lisa is concerned) defending Dorit and pointing out that PantyGate didn't constitute some horrific transgression.

I also find it rich that Erika was insisting "I don't have to forgive anything" when she has stated multiple times that the issue was dead and resolved. 

I'm waiting to see if PK revives the matter in his quest for a diamond but Eileen's blog and the diction in the preview footage suggest to me that Erika gave the old horse CPR in order to resurrect it after claiming the conflict was finished. 

[Giselle]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I am going to predict Rinna started it.  Eileen got sucked in trying to defend RInna and had an epic fail.

Eileen doesn't get sucked into anything. She sticks her nose in where she thinks it belongs and starts blowing out her two cents whether it is wanted or not. She is an habitual offender.

Like I said Miss. Meddlesome Buttinski.

[AndySmith]

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We have to be missing something big here

Well, all of these conversations are super-edited, it all comes to down to what the producers/editors decide to show us. Some of the fun is looking out for continuity mistakes within these conversations, especially dinner scenes*. A good example is the dinner in Mexico scene, if you re-watch out, focus on Kyle, I could swear a plate of food in front of her appears and disappears throughout the dinner...and not a plate featuring a different item from the dinner menu, but what looks like the same plate. Of course, it's a 1/2 hour to hour long dinner that needs to be distilled into a 2 to 5 minute scene, so God only knows what gets left on the cutting room floor each time.

*From other people I have been told to also pay attention to things like other diners in the background if they are there, the amount of liquid in the glasses the women are drinking, etc.

[motorcitymom65]

4 hours ago, AndySmith said:

Well, all of these conversations are super-edited, it all comes to down to what the producers/editors decide to show us. Some of the fun is looking out for continuity mistakes within these conversations, especially dinner scenes*. A good example is the dinner in Mexico scene, if you re-watch out, focus on Kyle, I could swear a plate of food in front of her appears and disappears throughout the dinner...and not a plate featuring a different item from the dinner menu, but what looks like the same plate. Of course, it's a 1/2 hour to hour long dinner that needs to be distilled into a 2 to 5 minute scene, so God only knows what gets left on the cutting room floor each time.

*From other people I have been told to also pay attention to things like other diners in the background if they are there, the amount of liquid in the glasses the women are drinking, etc.

I missed this in the dinner scene, but believe it. It's always been fascinating to me and I've discussed it a lot. You can watch the food on the plates and the liquid in the glasses and see how wildly it is edited to move conversations around in the final product that we see. 

[Pepita]

On 14/03/2017 at 6:43 PM, nexxie said:

Nice moments between Erika and Kyle, talking about their moms.

I always appreciate these discussions between Erika and Kyle. I find them deeper than the usual gossip. Like when they were traveling in Greece... They genuinely address subjects that resonate with me like family etc., even if I don't share their way of life!

[ElDosEquis]

20 hours ago, Giselle said:

When flying I wear natural fibers and leather shoes either flat/low soles or sneakers. When I was a student pilot one of my instructors showed me pictures of what melted polyester on skin could do when there is fire in the cockpit and if your still lucky enough to survive a crash but not the burns. Some things stick with you.

 

When I fly, the only consideration I make is to wear a belt that someone can use to drag me our of the aisle way, my feet don't work too well when I get drunk.

Oh, and I ALWAYS get the seats in the rear of the plane, that is the last part that hits the ground.

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I burned my cockpit with hot soup, once...........Does that count?

[zoeysmom]

Dorit on what went wrong in Hong Kong:  http://www.allabouttrh.com/2017/03/21/dorit-kemsley-says-lisa-rinna-erika-girardi-blood-hong-kong/

I do think Dorit held her own while  Erika and Rinna kind of lost it on her.  Dorit's comment about not having to try anymore was probably the realest thing I have heard in a long time.

[ElDosEquis]

re: "housewife hatred"?

I am not picky, I hate everyone, equally.

I think that the idea of 'hating' a housewife is ridiculous.

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How can anyone hate a group of very lucky/blessed housewives that run around the El Lay Basin and can't live life without clothes/cars/money/assistants/nannies/housekeepers to keep THEIR shit straight?

[AndySmith]

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As for the accusations, she was spreading rumors that Rinna is a pill popper Dorit denies the claims; making it clear her comments were all in good fun.

“I’m one of those people also, my husband and I banter so much in our house, we are constantly taking the piss out of one another. Our friends are like that,” Dorit explains. “I like to joke and have fun and particularly with a topic that might be sensitive, making it lighthearted, it’s always a nicer way, an easier way, for me to not feel this tension. There were jokes along the way but I thought everyone in the conversation understood that they were jokes.”

What a bullshitter. She denies the claims but maintains the comments were all in good fun? So...she was making the claims, she just uses the "I was joking! *nudge*nudge*wink*wink*!" as an excuse to try and get away with being a bitchy shit stirrer.

If only Crazy Eyes was as funny as she likes to think she is, instead of the low-rent LVP that she is.

[zoeysmom]

7 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

I missed this in the dinner scene, but believe it. It's always been fascinating to me and I've discussed it a lot. You can watch the food on the plates and the liquid in the glasses and see how wildly it is edited to move conversations around in the final product that we see. 

A good example is PK/Dorit's dinner party-it lasted three hours and we saw less than five minutes and a great deal of that was devoted to Elliot Minsk and his comment, that seem to take forever. 

[Natalie68]

On 3/19/2017 at 8:42 AM, Granimal said:

Hee. I just "got" your screen name "Your Mom is Easy"!I thought it was "YOURMORRISSEY" for some reason...all this time.

Anyways, just a short note on this- don't worry carnivores of the world! Vegetarians get it from meat-eaters as well. This theory can be tested by going to a party and being unable to eat a particular dish because it has meat in it. Conversation will immediately turn to into the following." "How long?" "Why?
"Have you ever eaten x,y,z?" "Do you eat chicken?" "Fish?" Eggs?" "Milk?" "But how do you get your protein!?!?" "What do you eat?" "But, again, how do you know you're getting enough protein?" "I love raw streak!" If you play your cards wisely, you can avoid Dr. Web MD, who will order you to go get a,b, and c tested. I've had this conversation roughly 1,000 times, and it's always exactly the same.  This will then come up at every other meal you share with this group, and contain amusing asides about what you can't eat, and hilarious mentions of tofu. Someone inevitably will start with "The history of man..but look at our teeth!" All while you sit silently bored because you hear it every day. And Thanksgiving is definitely the best time to have this conversation, everyone brings all their best jokes and unneeded defenses.

Anyways, carnivores that hate vegetarians- take solace in the fact that, we too, get ambushed for our dietary choices.

Commenting on someone's diet seems to be a universal human trick. The reaction I get from drinking a  soda at work is akin to the reaction I'd expect if I pulled out Rinna's pill bag, liquefied them all, and injected them into my arm. But alas, I'm a rebel who keeps drinking soda.

My theory is- if you aren't paying my medical bills, I don't care what you think about what I choose to consume.

Right there with ya!  As I sip my coke...(but don't ever give me pepsi!)

[Giselle]

3 hours ago, ElDosEquis said:

 

When I fly, the only consideration I make is to wear a belt that someone can use to drag me our of the aisle way, my feet don't work too well when I get drunk.

Oh, and I ALWAYS get the seats in the rear of the plane, that is the last part that hits the ground.

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I burned my cockpit with hot soup, once...........Does that count?

Cheapskate!

;-D

[ElDosEquis]

12 minutes ago, Giselle said:

Cheapskate!

;-D

Um, I am not cheap, I just want to have the opportunity to call ahead and let people know the flight was delayed?

(I loved flying in Cessnas, the engine noise damped out my girlie screams when pilot decided to do the "red bull air racing" stunts/tricks.)

 

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[Trooper York]

I wonder if these women have any idea what it means to have someone in your family who is in Law Enforcement.

Especially when police officers were being assassinated last summer. I don't know if they filmed in July  2016 but that was when five officers were murdered in Dallas. I could totally understand how Erika could be freaking out and would not let a snide comment about "your kid being killed" slide in any way. She really reacted which I think is significant. Normally when she is pissed she takes a beat. Then she comes out strong. Look at how she dealt with vajayjaygate.

In this case she was off the charts from the get go. So there had to be something "real" going on not your normal Housewives bullshit where they are passing tabloids around or talking about her cooch. 

I really like Eileen but she screwed the pooch so bad this time that Lisa Vanderpump is going to lead a protest outside her house or something.

[Natalie68]

2 minutes ago, Trooper York said:

I wonder if these women have any idea what it means to have someone in your family who is in Law Enforcement.

Especially when police officers were being assassinated last summer. I don't know if they filmed in July  2016 but that was when five officers were murdered in Dallas. I could totally understand how Erika could be freaking out and would not let a snide comment about "your kid being killed" slide in any way. She really reacted which I think is significant. Normally when she is pissed she takes a beat. Then she comes out strong. Look at how she dealt with vajayjaygate.

In this case she was off the charts from the get go. So there had to be something "real" going on not your normal Housewives bullshit where they are passing tabloids around or talking about her cooch. 

I really like Eileen but she screwed the pooch so bad this time that Lisa Vanderpump is going to lead a protest outside her house or something.

I used to work at a police dept and it was one that was involved in the shooting in Isla Vista.  I am not related to any of these women and men in uniform but you can be damn sure I was worried sick about them during the entire situation.  I can totally see her reaction especially in light of what Trooper York wrote about.  Not a easy time to be law enforcement.  Can't imagine what it would be like to have your 'baby' out there.

[zoeysmom]

Well these women when all else fails, always bring up intent.  Does anyone in their right mind think Eileen intended to hurt Erika?  I sure don't.  Everyone's child is precious and all mom worries whether their children are department store clerks or are in law enforcement.  If anything Erika just used a really bad example.  Had she said, "it is not as if she killed your husband," would Erika be offended because her husband is old?  Now I am sure if the tables were turned and someone said to Eileen, "it is not as if you slept with her husband," we would have 14 episodes of Eileen trying to extract apologies.

[AndySmith]

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Had she said, "it is not as if she killed your husband," would Erika be offended because her husband is old?

I'm not sure I see how "old husband" and "son working as cop" are comparable when it comes to dangerous careers...I mean, I'm not sure what age has to do with someone being killed...

In any case, it seems like Ericka and Eileen are over it, since Eileen was cheering Ericka in the audience at DWTS...

[Trooper York]

I think it was quite specific to the fact that Erika's son was a cop. If my suspicion is correct  the climate of fear was such that Erika was extremely touchy about it. 

I don't think she would have reacted the same way if Eileen snarked that Tom would kick the bucket. She would probably just say "Cool. Time to cash out." I mean I know she must love Tom but he is up there so it is a little different.

This reaction or even what you might term over reaction is specific to the Police situation that was ongoing at the time.

[PhilMarlowe2]

From the clip, it seems pretty obvious to me Erika is already in a high-strung and emotional place, and then a sensitive button was pushed that caused her to overreact (not to mention traveling can make people emotional as well). As far as Housewives offenses go, it doesn't seem that huge a deal to me. It's not like she's hiding someone's crutches from them, or screaming "You have no idea what she's done to me!" at the top of her lungs, or bringing up tabloid rumors of adultery in front of the others' young daughters. I actually think it's fun to see agro Erika in action.

[ElDosEquis]

7 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Well these women when all else fails, always bring up intent.  Does anyone in their right mind think Eileen intended to hurt Erika?  I sure don't.  Everyone's child is precious and all mom worries whether their children are department store clerks or are in law enforcement.  If anything Erika just used a really bad example.  Had she said, "it is not as if she killed your husband," would Erika be offended because her husband is old?  Now I am sure if the tables were turned and someone said to Eileen, "it is not as if you slept with her husband," we would have 14 episodes of Eileen trying to extract apologies.

Is 14 enough?

[lunastartron]

2 hours ago, Trooper York said:

I wonder if these women have any idea what it means to have someone in your family who is in Law Enforcement.

Especially when police officers were being assassinated last summer. I don't know if they filmed in July  2016 but that was when five officers were murdered in Dallas. I could totally understand how Erika could be freaking out and would not let a snide comment about "your kid being killed" slide in any way. She really reacted which I think is significant. Normally when she is pissed she takes a beat. Then she comes out strong. Look at how she dealt with vajayjaygate.

In this case she was off the charts from the get go. So there had to be something "real" going on not your normal Housewives bullshit where they are passing tabloids around or talking about her cooch. 

I really like Eileen but she screwed the pooch so bad this time that Lisa Vanderpump is going to lead a protest outside her house or something.

This was filmed in mid October. 

Eileen didn't say anything at all about "your kid being killed" in general, which is substantively different than the relatively common (at least to me) figure of speech "it's not like she killed your child." 

Apples and spaceships as CR would say. 

Then she doubles down and starts shrieking "shut the fuck up" even after it's been clarified that, no, no one was talking about her kid in a literal sense. 

Sounds like the dumb aggression that inspired the Habitat for Humanity yelling and hands-in-face display. 

My subjective opinion, of course. 

[Snappy]

Watching Erika is like watching a tennis match; back and forth, one extreme to another. Just when I start liking her, she blows it and starts acting like a big jerk. Dorit may not be Erika's cup of tea, but her behavior is akin to perpetually pms'ing. Erika does not remind me of someone who is incapable of speaking up when something bothers her. Why didn't she say something calmly when Dorit offended her.  If she said "You may not realize how your comments make me feel, but...." and Dorit kept it up, I'd understand the snark, but if Erika never said anything, how was Dorit to know she was being bothersome. I don't believe clairvoyance is a skill she possesses. As for Erika's reaction in the preview, as a mom of children in the military and law enforcement, I can empathize, but it seems very convenient that NOW Erika cares about her son when she couldn't be bothered when he was growing up. Its a nice attempt to gain sympathy. Maybe I believe otherwise if Erika spent more time with her some than she does with Mikey and the guys. In addition, I did not hear Eileen say "Its not as if she killed HER child...", I believe she said, "Its not as if she killed A child...", and Eileen immediately apologized several times in a way that truly felt sincere. 

[lunastartron]

Eileen said "but she didn't kill your child."

She also never says "I'm sorry," "I apologize," but rather "you're right," and "I didn't mean it that way." 

[Trooper York]

There were seventeen line of duty deaths of law enforcement officers in October of 2016.

I think Erika does really care about her son. But I bet he doesn't want to be part of the show. That is understandable.  Would you want to be part of the show if you were in law enforcement? I don't think her reaction was to gain sympathy. It  was a lioness defending her cub. Even if he is a grown up cub.

The fact that she likes  to hang out with glam squad does not mean she doesn't love her son. Pinky spends all of her time with dogs, horses and swans. Does that mean she doesn't love her son? I mean that poor guy is another one whose life is always in danger. Just think of the STD's he is exposed to in SUR just by washing glasses.

Edited March 21, 2017 by Trooper York
I can't spell for beans.

[zulualpha]

Erika's (over) reaction looked like a combination of jet lag, alcohol and being with people she isn't close with and some of whom she doesn't like.  At all.

[lunastartron]

1 hour ago, Trooper York said:

There were seventeen line of duty deaths of law enforcement officers in October of 2016.

I think Erika does really care about her son. But I bet he doesn't want to be part of the show. That is understandable.  Would you want to be part of the show if you were in law enforcement? I don't think her reaction was to gain sympathy. It  was a lioness defending her cub. Even if he is a grown up cub.

The fact that she likes  to hang out with glam squad does not mean she doesn't love her son. Pinky spends all of her time with dogs, horses and swans. Does that mean she doesn't love her son? I mean that poor guy is another one whose life is always in danger. Just think of the STD's he is exposed to in SUR just by washing glasses.

No one was attacking her cub. Least of all Eileen.

[Trooper York]

39 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

No one was attacking her cub. Least of all Eileen.

True. From our perspective. Maybe not from hers. These women all seem to take offense at the smallest slight. Yap about it for five episodes at a minimum. As someone so astutely said when you combine jet lag, alcohol and antipathy and you get a volcanic reaction.

Just what Satan Andy is always looking for and promoting. 

I just think Erika's reaction is more understandable than most. Just sayn'

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[Giselle]

58 minutes ago, zulualpha said:

Erika's (over) reaction looked like a combination of jet lag, alcohol and being with people she isn't close with and some of whom she doesn't like.  At all.

It was but Erica put herself in that situation and only has herself to blame. She signed the contract agreeing to participate expecting to give very little of herself to others, spew her version of bullshit in a take it or leave it fashion and gain fame. It doesn't work that way because these ladies can push buttons while they jockey for screen time and she knows exactly how these trips  usually end up. She may say she never watched the show but she outs herself all the time. She knew what she was getting into.

Although it was a poor choice of words to use  Eileen was right it's not as if Dorit killed a kid, even if she used "your kid", which she didn't. Dorit just said cover your damn snatch and played the same game of "run and tell dat" that Erica engages in.  They BOTH have traded digs at each other through out the season. BOTH of THEM.

2 hours ago, Snappy said:

Watching Erika is like watching a tennis match; back and forth, one extreme to another. Just when I start liking her, she blows it and starts acting like a big jerk. Dorit may not be Erika's cup of tea, but her behavior is akin to perpetually pms'ing. Erika does not remind me of someone who is incapable of speaking up when something bothers her. Why didn't she say something calmly when Dorit offended her.  If she said "You may not realize how your comments make me feel, but...." and Dorit kept it up, I'd understand the snark, but if Erika never said anything, how was Dorit to know she was being bothersome. I don't believe clairvoyance is a skill she possesses. As for Erika's reaction in the preview, as a mom of children in the military and law enforcement, I can empathize, but it seems very convenient that NOW Erika cares about her son when she couldn't be bothered when he was growing up. Its a nice attempt to gain sympathy. Maybe I believe otherwise if Erika spent more time with her some than she does with Mikey and the guys. In addition, I did not hear Eileen say "Its not as if she killed HER child...", I believe she said, "Its not as if she killed A child...", and Eileen immediately apologized several times in a way that truly felt sincere. 

In the clip that I watched on RHOBH facebook  the words "I'm sorry" never came out of Eileen's mouth. She just said "I didn't mean it that way." Eileen was more perturbed that  her words were taken the wrong way and her constant butting in on this issue backfired on her. 

That being said I have little sympathy for Erica. She slings out insults with the best of them not giving a fuck how they are received. She gets her emotional hot topic buttons accidentally or purposefully pushed guess what I too really don't give a fuck.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Giselle

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, Trooper York said:

True. From our perspective. Maybe not from hers. These women all seem to take offense at the smallest slight. Yap about it for five episodes at a minimum. As someone so astutely said when you combine jet lag, alcohol and antipathy and you get a volcanic reaction.

Just what Satan Andy is always looking for and promoting. 

I just think Erika's reaction is more understandable than most. Just sayn'

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Nahhh, I think she is mad at Eileen because Eileen is supposed to defend her no matter what, How Dare She speak up for Dorit! LOL

[PumpkinPK]

Just caught the end of this ep while waiting for tonight's episode to start.

At :59 min in, that "bring it" hand gesture that Ericka motioned to Dorite was really gross behavior, esp with her gaudy rings and talon nails.  She was looking to fight.  Not to mention that she stole that from the early 90s Mortal Kombat kiddie video game.

Just ugly behavior.  And I don't like Dorit, and don't think EJ saying she is BS is untrue.  But that doesn't mean she needs to say it at all, let alone while they are on a beautiful boat ride in HK.

[chewycandy]

17 hours ago, lunastartron said:

Then she doubles down and starts shrieking "shut the fuck up" 

That's an exaggeration; she glared and said it in a warning, low tone. No shrieking. 

(And no reaching across the table for her throat)

[VedaPierce]

On March 15, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Giselle said:

The one streaming bullshit, who is bullshit, is Erica. Everything about that damn woman is fake. It's the myriad of Sybil personas she gives everyone so they don't get close to the core of who she really is.  No close friends other than paid sycophants creating the Empresses façade. Clown Squad is right on the money Zoeysmom. Everything in her life is done to hide behind and  to keep people at a distance. I thinks that is why she likes flying in a private plane because then she doesn't have to deal with people. I think that is why her relationship to Tom works. They interact very little because his job is his first love and takes precedence. I don't think she does things out of kindness I think she does it because that's what "normal" people are suppose to do so she pretends to be kind. Something deep is wrong with that woman.

Erica was the one that told Rinna. It is a repeat of last season when Erica that told Yolanda about Rinna then in San Diego denied and denied until she couldn't any longer. Why would she get so angry? If she didn't tell Rinna all she had to say was no. 

All that money, time and, paid attention and she looks ridiculous.  I don't give a shit about what she goes through at night. Go cry behind the walls you put up.

I liked Dorit's response to Erica's "bullshit" comment.  "Halle-fucking-lujah" Dorit finally got an honest opinion out of that fake-assed Barbie.

Hey Rinna I think you're protesting too much.  So how much Xanax do you pop and what else do you like to take? Who brings out a bag of pills as a joke and then says she pops one into her smoothies?  If someone who "jokes" like that starts acting out is it not reasonable to question if her behavior was induced just like one would about Kim?

Eden is like a roach scurrying for a crevice.

Eileen... who?

LVP... yawn.

Kyle...I think you should have gone with your friend Lisa. You didn't have to look or listen but just be there.

I know im so behind, but I just LOVE this!

[Yours Truly]

On 3/21/2017 at 6:16 PM, Snappy said:

Watching Erika is like watching a tennis match; back and forth, one extreme to another. Just when I start liking her, she blows it and starts acting like a big jerk. Dorit may not be Erika's cup of tea, but her behavior is akin to perpetually pms'ing. Erika does not remind me of someone who is incapable of speaking up when something bothers her. Why didn't she say something calmly when Dorit offended her.  If she said "You may not realize how your comments make me feel, but...." and Dorit kept it up, I'd understand the snark, but if Erika never said anything, how was Dorit to know she was being bothersome. I don't believe clairvoyance is a skill she possesses. As for Erika's reaction in the preview, as a mom of children in the military and law enforcement, I can empathize, but it seems very convenient that NOW Erika cares about her son when she couldn't be bothered when he was growing up. Its a nice attempt to gain sympathy. Maybe I believe otherwise if Erika spent more time with her some than she does with Mikey and the guys. In addition, I did not hear Eileen say "Its not as if she killed HER child...", I believe she said, "Its not as if she killed A child...", and Eileen immediately apologized several times in a way that truly felt sincere. 

SO MUCH THIS!!