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What's the point of Diana's uber powers if she can't "fake" a woman that looks like Kelly and put her head in a box?!   

 

I think Kelly got in touch with Meisner once she heard the Royal's were in Portland.

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But the two cast members could probably have important roles to play in the upcoming sequel.

I read that as being the sequel to the season finale, not a sequel series. Someone was trying to do clever "Variety" Hollywood reporting speak. If it were a spinoff, I think that's the word that would have been used. You wouldn't have a sequel unless the original series ended and then there was a follow-up. So I suspect the article meant that the next episode would be the sequel to the previous episode, and the two dead characters might have important roles, probably for their funerals.

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Yesterday, I saw tweets saying that both Jacqueline Toboni and Damien Puckler are in Portland right now.  I think they are filming episode 8 (??) at the moment?

 

I'm all for Meisner coming back and sweeping Adalind off her feet....and out of Portland....

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I just did my daily twitter feed check and saw a post from the Grimm writers saying there would not be a Christmas episode this year because there was "too much story." 

 

I'm totally conflicted on this.  I loved Krampus, but hated the fruitcake-eating Greek gremlins. I was flipping between wary of another Christmas episode or totally looking forward to one (I liked the idea that this show would take a break from its usual business for something fluffy halfway through the season).  Then I was scared of all this supposed story.  They haven't done story too well lately....

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I'm all for Meisner coming back and sweeping Adalind off her feet....and out of Portland....

I seriously don't know why they didn't have Meisner and Diana pick up Adalind on their way out of town to head off for parts unknown. Adalind was already shown to like and trust him; it wouldn't be a leap for her to run away with him especially since Hed just did a tag team kill of the King to end the threat to their lives.

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Who is telling Nick he's running out of time for the one chance to get the answers, the FBI agent?

 

Yes.  I think she's only in the first 3 or so episodes, so who knows.  It also doesn't look like they swoop in and take Trubel, as she shows up in the funeral (and who has an open casket at a graveside service????)

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Yes.  I think she's only in the first 3 or so episodes, so who knows.  It also doesn't look like they swoop in and take Trubel, as she shows up in the funeral (and who has an open casket at a graveside service????)

 

Thumbs down to the open casket.  Maybe they just want us to see the body inside the casket which gets lowered into the grave so as not to leave a doubt about her death.

 

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If Adalind and the baby both die in childbirth it would me me happy, happy, happy!  Next up, Diana dies after she starts growing at a rapid rate!


If Adalind and the baby both die in childbirth it would me me happy, happy, happy!  Next up, Diana dies after she starts growing at a rapid rate!


Juliette?!  Blech.  Let's see how long it takes for Adalind to steal Juliette's body or Henrietta's in order to get her powers back?  Where is Juliette's family which is why Nik was supposedly tied to her per Renard?

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Juliette?!  Blech.  Let's see how long it takes for Adalind to steal Juliette's body or Henrietta's in order to get her powers back?  Where is Juliette's family which is why Nik was supposedly tied to her per Renard?

 

I don't think there was anything special about Juliette in particular that Renard felt tied Nick to her/to Portland.  Instead, she was a woman he was kinda/sorta/almost engaged to who had a stable career in Portland and who would not likely relocate.

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I don't think it's been discussed here and I can't remember where I saw it mentioned, but we are supposed to find out why Portland is so full of Wesen.  Lots of us have wondered, and I think Wu asked Renard something about it the last half of this last season.  My interest is piqued.  Better that than baby drama. 

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I don't think it's been discussed here and I can't remember where I saw it mentioned, but we are supposed to find out why Portland is so full of Wesen.  Lots of us have wondered, and I think Wu asked Renard something about it the last half of this last season.  My interest is piqued.  Better that than baby drama. 

 

Almost anything is.

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I don't think it's been discussed here and I can't remember where I saw it mentioned, but we are supposed to find out why Portland is so full of Wesen.  Lots of us have wondered, and I think Wu asked Renard something about it the last half of this last season.  My interest is piqued.  Better that than baby drama. 

 

Wu asked Renard if most crime is Wesen related and the response was, Yes.  I would think Wesen's would reside around the world and not just in Portland.

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Yeah they do reside around the world, but this spoiler indicates they will be dealing with why there is such a concentration of them in Portland.  http://tvline.com/gallery/fall-tv-2015-season-premiere-spoilers/#!20/fall-preview-grimm/

 

Maybe because Portland is so weird?

 

Or maybe it has to do with Renard and the resistance? Maybe most Wesens are/were refugees from this  civil war that was raging over in the old coutnry?

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Maybe because Portland is so weird?

 

Or maybe it has to do with Renard and the resistance? Maybe most Wesens are/were refugees from this  civil war that was raging over in the old coutnry?

Heh.  Austin is weird, too, maybe they have their own rebel contingent. 

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http://tvline.com/gallery/fall-tv-predictions-greys-anatomy-meredith-romance/#!11/grimm/

 

And, since I'm having a little trouble with that site (I'm blaming a rogue KFC ad), here's the text:

 

GRIMM

PREDICTION: The coming Wesen war will have a lasting impact — via death or a permanent, life-changing injury — on a member of the gang.

 

 

Two things to say about this:

1 - This does sound interesting...

2 - No mention of Adalind (I think).  I've noticed less and less mention of Adalind in all these hints that are coming out, which makes me thing that TPTB are actually listening to fans on this one.  At least I hope so.

 

Or, maybe, the death will be Adalind.  I'd be down with that....

 

Also, I realize that this is a prediction, but it comes from the guy at TVLine, who tends to be pretty in the know in things.  So, we'll see.....

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Okay, despite all the other crap going on with this show, there is this little nugget.  I think they have officially won the episode naming game.  There will be an episode in season 5 (maybe ep 8?  not sure yet) called "A Reptile Dysfunction."  Even if I delete this show off my DVR after ep 1*, I will come back for that based on the name only.

 

*I keep threatening that I will do this but I still need my eye candy fix so I might as well admit I stuck here until the bitter end, or until another show with attractive men that is filmed locally and has a fair amount of book love shows up on Friday nights.

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http://www.momtastic.com/entertainment/572237-20-questions-grimm-star-claire-coffee-fills-us/

 

The spoilers are in Question #1 and not a word of it does not make me throw up in my mouth a bit.   Ugh!

 

The other 19 questions are parenting things and well-worth the read.  No matter what I think of Adalind, I have to say that Claire Coffee is pretty awesome.  She'd be even more awesome on her own show (and not this one....)

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http://www.momtastic.com/entertainment/572237-20-questions-grimm-star-claire-coffee-fills-us/

 

The spoilers are in Question #1 and not a word of it does not make me throw up in my mouth a bit.   Ugh!

 

The other 19 questions are parenting things and well-worth the read.  No matter what I think of Adalind, I have to say that Claire Coffee is pretty awesome.  She'd be even more awesome on her own show (and not this one....)

After reading the first response, I'm officially out.

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My predictions on the way this show may end one day.

 

1) Diana is Eric's kid which frees Renard from Adalind's nonsense.

2) Nik's kid with Adalind will eventually end up being his and a dead Juliette's.

3) Both kids will die and Adalind will die and I will be happy, happy, happy!

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Re #2...how can you switch mothers?

 

I think what is meant is that, because Adalind was Juliette when the child was conceived, the child will genetically be Juliette's.  I actually think that one is a distinct possibility.

 

 

 

1) Diana is Eric's kid which frees Renard from Adalind's nonsense.

2) Nik's kid with Adalind will eventually end up being his and a dead Juliette's.

3) Both kids will die and Adalind will die and I will be happy, happy, happy!

 

I think the window has passed for Diana to be Eric's child.  Sorry, but the character (Eric) has been dead for over 2 seasons.  Plus the only other hexenbiest we've seen whose eyes glow bright purple is Elizabeth, which would hint a genetic connection which could only happen if Renard was the father.

 

As for #3, I'm not a fan of killing kids...but I'd be all for offing Adalind in a very violent manner.

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As to the sneak peek where Nick is explaining to Hank everything that happened, he sure is taking it all in stride only a few hours later.  I understand the plot must move, but realistically shouldn't he be a little more, I don't know, stunned, even catatonic upon the death of his girlfriend who was going to kill him, and finding the head of his mother?  I know I wouldn't be all business as usual.  However, I am now intrigued as to where/how Juliette's body turns up.

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However, I am now intrigued as to where/how Juliette's body turns up.

 

Apparently there's a funeral where her body is in the casket, so probably something in between the people kidnapping Trubel and Juliette's body.

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As to the sneak peek where Nick is explaining to Hank everything that happened, he sure is taking it all in stride only a few hours later.  I understand the plot must move, but realistically shouldn't he be a little more, I don't know, stunned, even catatonic upon the death of his girlfriend who was going to kill him, and finding the head of his mother?  I know I wouldn't be all business as usual.  However, I am now intrigued as to where/how Juliette's body turns up.

 

I'm wary of Juliette's missing body.  We know that hexenbiests can create spells with dead bodies AND create spells where they take on the appearance of others.  All this leads me to believe that, while Juliette may be well and truly dead, BT's tenure on the show is not and we'll see her back, just not as Juliette.

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In the long shot at the cemetery, is that Theresa standing next to Nick? 

 

I think so, but not entirely sure, but it's very possible seeing as they somehow get Juliette's body back for the funeral.

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In the long shot at the cemetery, is that Theresa standing next to Nick? 

 

Yes, it is.  It's hard to see in this latest promo, but it is clear in the promo that came out a few months ago.

 

Also, why isn't Renard at the funeral (unless he is and I just didn't see it...).  I mean, it would be odd for a boss NOT to go to the funeral of his employee's SO....

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Also, why isn't Renard at the funeral (unless he is and I just didn't see it...).  I mean, it would be odd for a boss NOT to go to the funeral of his employee's SO....

 

Maybe he feels awkward after the whole kissing spell nonsense storyline.

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As to the sneak peek where Nick is explaining to Hank everything that happened, he sure is taking it all in stride only a few hours later.  I understand the plot must move, but realistically shouldn't he be a little more, I don't know, stunned, even catatonic upon the death of his girlfriend who was going to kill him, and finding the head of his mother?

 

This show better do right by Kelly.  Yeah, Juliette died, but so did Kelly.  I fully expect Nick to grieve for his mother and to plan her funeral too. 

 

I'm wary of Juliette's missing body.  We know that hexenbiests can create spells with dead bodies AND create spells where they take on the appearance of others.  All this leads me to believe that, while Juliette may be well and truly dead, BT's tenure on the show is not and we'll see her back, just not as Juliette.

 

I'm wary of the return of Juliette in one form or another.  On twitter, Sasha Roiz said that he, Giuntoli, and Tulloch were at the Edmonton Expo in September for photos and a panel.  If Tulloch's character is dead dead, I have no idea what she has to say at a panel.

 

Juliette is probably mostly dead, so she can be saved by true love (Princess Bride).

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This show better do right by Kelly.  Yeah, Juliette died, but so did Kelly.  I fully expect Nick to grieve for his mother and to plan her funeral too. 

 

 

I'm wary of the return of Juliette in one form or another.  On twitter, Sasha Roiz said that he, Giuntoli, and Tulloch were at the Edmonton Expo in September for photos and a panel.  If Tulloch's character is dead dead, I have no idea what she has to say at a panel.

 

Juliette is probably mostly dead, so she can be saved by true love (Princess Bride).

 

Kelly's funeral...that probably happened 20 years ago.  In the eyes of everyone who doesn't know better, Kelly's been dead since, what, 1996?  It would be a little tricky to have a funeral for her now.  Also, how to explain where the rest of her body is....

 

As I've said, I would be shocked if BT doesn't make a return to Grimm. Whether or not that return would be as Juliette remains to be seen.  We've been shown that hexenbiests use dead bodies to concoct spells/potions and they perform spells where they take on the appearance of others.  My guess is that "Juliette" is dead, but BT may show up as a different character down the road.  Plus, I saw tweets from people at the Edmonton Expo who said that she (and DG, I think) were really cagey when asked about BT not being on the show anymore.

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As I've said, I would be shocked if BT doesn't make a return to Grimm. Whether or not that return would be as Juliette remains to be seen.  We've been shown that hexenbiests use dead bodies to concoct spells/potions and they perform spells where they take on the appearance of others.  My guess is that "Juliette" is dead, but BT may show up as a different character down the road.  Plus, I saw tweets from people at the Edmonton Expo who said that she (and DG, I think) were really cagey when asked about BT not being on the show anymore.

 

You're probably right, but if so, it's kind of a cheap trick in my book.  Why bother with the whole stupid Juliette is the most powerful hexenbiest ever crap.  And back to the funeral, what a small turnout.  I know we never saw relatives of hers, but she did have women friends she went out with to bars, and must have had veterinary colleagues.  Just hire some extras already.  I am glad that Theresa seems to have been sprung from Chavez' captivity pretty quickly.  I wouldn't like that dragged out too much. I agree Renard should really be there, he knew Juliette as well as Hank and Wu did, he must have pressing police (phone) business. 

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So, I saw some interesting tweets this morning.  Damien Puckler has been filming in Portland for quite a long time, which means lots of Meisner this season (yay!).  Just for the record, I am totally shipping Meisner and Adalind....

 

But, you know who else has been in Portland?  Christian Lagadec...you know, SEBASTIAN!  In this case, I'm all for a resurrection storyline!

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You're probably right, but if so, it's kind of a cheap trick in my book.  Why bother with the whole stupid Juliette is the most powerful hexenbiest ever crap.  And back to the funeral, what a small turnout.  I know we never saw relatives of hers, but she did have women friends she went out with to bars, and must have had veterinary colleagues.  Just hire some extras already.  I am glad that Theresa seems to have been sprung from Chavez' captivity pretty quickly.  I wouldn't like that dragged out too much. I agree Renard should really be there, he knew Juliette as well as Hank and Wu did, he must have pressing police (phone) business. 

 

To be honest, if BT does come back, I'd rather it be as someone else rather than a resurrected Juliette.  While I don't disagree with the comments on her acting in the role of Juliette, I do hold out hope that she might do better in a different role.  (I actually like BT as a person and really root for her to pull out a good performance, even though I'm frequently disappointed on that count).  Of course, that whole possible story line is a bit far-fetched, even or this show, so we'll have to see how it turns out when/if she returns (my money is still on when).

 

And, I can't remember...was Bud at the funeral?  I don't recall seeing him and I'm having trouble with video clips at the moments (thank you, Windows 10)...shouldn't HE be at the funeral?  Maybe his wails of agony would have been too much.  (I say that with the utmost love for Bud...)

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I think what is meant is that, because Adalind was Juliette when the child was conceived, the child will genetically be Juliette's.  I actually think that one is a distinct possibility.

 

 

I think the window has passed for Diana to be Eric's child.  Sorry, but the character (Eric) has been dead for over 2 seasons.  Plus the only other hexenbiest we've seen whose eyes glow bright purple is Elizabeth, which would hint a genetic connection which could only happen if Renard was the father.

 

As for #3, I'm not a fan of killing kids...but I'd be all for offing Adalind in a very violent manner.

 

A DNA test would show that Renard was a relative and not the father.  Also, let's not forget Frau Pech could just as easily had the weird eyes since she was killed in order for Adalind to get her powers back.  Remember the nasty blood concoction that Adalind had to rub all over her stomach?

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Kelly's funeral...that probably happened 20 years ago.  In the eyes of everyone who doesn't know better, Kelly's been dead since, what, 1996?  It would be a little tricky to have a funeral for her now.  Also, how to explain where the rest of her body is....

 

You're right.  NIck's family would have had a funeral for both parents. 

 

Maybe my issue is that Nick didn't really grieve for his mother in the season finale.  He didn't have time because the Verrat were coming.  In the end, he had an ugly cry over Juliette, the vililan on the show.

 

I expect Nick to grieve for Kelly too.  It's the second time that he lost his mother.  I don't care if Nick grieves for Juliette, but I want him to grieve for his mother. 

 

As I've said, I would be shocked if BT doesn't make a return to Grimm. Whether or not that return would be as Juliette remains to be seen.  We've been shown that hexenbiests use dead bodies to concoct spells/potions and they perform spells where they take on the appearance of others.  My guess is that "Juliette" is dead, but BT may show up as a different character down the road.

 

I never liked Juliette, but any good will that she had in the past seasons is gone.  Burning the Grimmabago, setting up Kelly to die a horrible death, sexing that douche Kenneth.  Gone. 

 

Even if Juliette comes back as another character--or a ghost, she's still going to be another bland character who adds nothing to the show.  Another horrible storyline where Nick falls in love again with not-Juliette.

 

You're probably right, but if so, it's kind of a cheap trick in my book.  Why bother with the whole stupid Juliette is the most powerful hexenbiest ever crap.

 

There isn't any, just a complete bs storyline.

 

Even in death, this show still doesn't know what to do with her. 

 

I do think that Juliette as the most powerful hexenbiest every to have walked the earth storyline was to coddle Tulloch's ego.  If the writers re-wrote Grimm to be The Juliette Show, it's hard to believe that Juliette is really dead dead.

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Even in death, this show still doesn't know what to do with her.

I do think that Juliette as the most powerful hexenbiest every to have walked the earth storyline was to coddle Tulloch's ego.  If the writers re-wrote Grimm to be The Juliette Show, it's hard to believe that Juliette is really dead dead.

 

That's exactly it, they didn't know what to do with her, her character became so erratic for no reason at all.  What would've made more sense is if she went after Adalind to begin with instead of blaming Nick and attacking her friends, her motives made no sense at all and they failed to show any inner struggles at all.

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Am I super naive to believe what the producers said at comic con?  That Juliette is dead and would only be back in flashbacks?  Yes, I probably am.  But I don't want to see Juliette's long lost sister or identical cousin, either, that's for sure. 

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