All Episodes Talk: All Rise

[Cobalt Stargazer]

"If you're drunk, it's hard to tell if someone else is drunk. When two drunks look at each other, they think the other one is sober."

Repeated for truth.

[AngelaHunter]

So, I had an extra glass of wine tonight and thought my hearing was messed up. "Furbush?" I say to myself. "I must be drunker than I thought." But no. It's Furbush, who looks like he spent the last week sleeping on a park bench and combed his hair with with Wesson oil and an eggbeater. He's some kind of druggie who can't even resist coming to work high. He was complaining about def - another tax cheat (and oh, what about Devon, the "Operations Manager" with those little girl knots on her head and the nose ring?) disposing of  his "stuff" when def got kicked out of his warehouse and whose stuff turned out to be a bunch of used/uncapped syringes, a half a bottle of water, a wrecked bike and some other shit. JJ decides she's heard enough of this crap from all these under-the-table non-taxpaying cretins and tells him, "We're done." Furbush is flabbergasted because he wants to talk about his tools - they didn't even talk about his TOOLS! -  apparently not the ones he uses for his drug habit. "We're done??" he squeaks. Byrd informs him, in a tone that brooks no argument, "We're done." Furbush is escorted out where he protests, "It's not illegal to own syringes! It's not fair." Maybe not, but no one ever promised us fair, Furbush.

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

The customer support person does not need to know the particulars, and frankly, with me tapping the bat on the floor, I am not sure he/she would want to know. 

It's a foolproof plan.

I'm in. So, we're not going to actually bust out any of their windows, or put sugar in someone's gas tank?

Edited December 1, 2017 by AngelaHunter
cuz maybe I am drunker than I thought

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I'm in. So, we're not going to actually bust out any of their windows, or put sugar in someone's gas tank?

Hmmm.

We could conversate about this on the way to pick up others.

Intelligent, reasonable people always have a plan B.

Remind me to bring the bat.

[SandyToes]

2 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

If you'd like Giant Misfit, we would be happy to travel to your home, pick you up, then the three of us (you, me and my bat) could visit Comcast and get the point across that recording Judge Judy has nothing to do with entertainment and everything to do with cooperative group behavior (aka previously tv). 

ROAD TRIP!   Grab the cheeseballs, someone!  @AngelaHunter and I are on for beverages!!  But she'll have to drive the first leg because she's not as drunk as I am.  I think.

And yeah, today's case with the under-the-table-gang was pretty drink-worthy.  His stuff!!

Edited December 1, 2017 by SandyToes

[AngelaHunter]

44 minutes ago, PsychoKlown said:

Remind me to bring the bat.

But don't you always have one in your car?  I never leave home without my crowbar. In the front seat. Just in case someone wants to fight me.

 

29 minutes ago, SandyToes said:

But she'll have to drive the first leg because she's not as drunk as I am. 

Okay, but when I smash my car up because I hit a patch of ice... no, a deer or a telephone pole jumped out in front of me or a truck came out of nowhere... no, I fell asleep because you coerced me to drive when you KNEW how drunk I was therefore it's your fault and you'll have to pay for my emotional distress and my damages because my insurance expired yesterday. It's all documentated.

[Jamoche]

Previous tenant had broken a one-year lease after 8 months because of a leaky roof. Plaintiff tenant moved out immediately because of a leaky roof. Def repeating that she "fixed" the roof doesn't change the fact that the roof is leaking. Halterview: "It was her plan all along to move into my house, break my roof, and then move out."

Um, sure.

[AuntiePam]

Why didn't the defendant landlord (dog bite case) file a counter-claim for rent? 

And why was plaintiff (who vaguely reminded me of Bernadette on Big Bang Theory) allowed to stay for six months without paying rent?  Did defendant maybe feel some responsibility for the dog bite?

But damn, I wouldn't live a chihuahua outside with a German shepherd next door, electronic fence or not. 

[Brattinella]

1 hour ago, AuntiePam said:

Why didn't the defendant landlord (dog bite case) file a counter-claim for rent? 

And why was plaintiff (who vaguely reminded me of Bernadette on Big Bang Theory) allowed to stay for six months without paying rent?  Did defendant maybe feel some responsibility for the dog bite?

But damn, I wouldn't live a chihuahua outside with a German shepherd next door, electronic fence or not. 

And wasn't the chihuahua on a sixty-foot lead?  That is INSANE.

[jilliannatalia]

1 minute ago, Brattinella said:

And wasn't the chihuahua on a sixty-foot lead?  That is INSANE.

At that length, what's the point of even having a lead.? The dog could probably make it into traffic and obviously made it into the mouth of another dog..

[jilliannatalia]

2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

But don't you always have one in your car?  I never leave home without my crowbar. In the front seat. Just in case someone wants to fight me.

 

 It's all documentated.

I don't have a bat. i have a 9-iron for the same purpose. Just kidding. i don't golf or play baseball-softball, and a tennis racquet would be of limited use.

 

Documentated may become the new conversated.  My personal strategy, like that of many JJ litigants,  is to add syllables to existing words whenever I wish to sound educated or scholarly. It hasn't worked out all that well for me yet, but someday it may.

[Jamoche]

29 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

And wasn't the chihuahua on a sixty-foot lead?  That is INSANE.

Extensive research (30 seconds on Google) indicates that even if you use lightweight climbing rope, that's at least a pound of rope. Chihuahua range is 3-6 pounds. That dog is not going to be pulling a third its weight in rope around.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

JJ decides she's heard enough of this crap from all these under-the-table non-taxpaying cretins and tells him, "We're done."

Once, just once, I would love to see JJ aim a little hire with the tax cheats and have some corporation in front of her where they have to admit to hiding trillions of dollars in profit in off-shore accounts to avoid paying the taxes on those. I wonder if she gets all spun up about that or just reserves her ire for a self-employed guy who's looking to to keep his couple thousand dollars to himself. (Not saying he's right, of course!) 

When Mr Furbush (tee hee) admitted he came to work high, I figured he was just an average weed smoker who did a wake and bake before his shift. I wasn't prepared to see his full-blown heroin kit. 

12 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:

It's a foolproof plan.  Well, almost.  As long as Comcast can take a joke....

Just say the word. 

WORD! You bring the bat, @AngelaHunter can bring her wine, @SandyToes can bring the 'balls, and I've got a cooler of Lime-a-Ritas and we can go a-conversating to the local Comcast office and...get there and pass out in the car. :) 

6 hours ago, Brattinella said:

And wasn't the chihuahua on a sixty-foot lead?  That is INSANE.

Well, considering the Defendant, who someone had called a "young woman" (Me: she looks like she's 45), couldn't even be bothered to spay the poor dog, I'd say she wasn't the world's greatest pet owner in the first place. In fact, I wanted to punch the TV screen when she kept going on about not getting paid for "vet care," when that poor animal probably has never even seen the inside of a vet practice in all of its years on earth. I hope whatever surgery they did on the dog involved removing her uterus because whack-job Defendant probably had plans to "breed" her, too. 

[basiltherat]

What do you call a Chihuahua on a 60 foot lead?  Lunch!

I was all prepared to call yesterday "Nobody gets nuthin' on JJ" day until the last case with Gertrude and the Leaky Roof Landlady.  I'm sooo glad JJ broke her No Moving Expenses rule to give Gert more money from Leakin' Lena.  A good day!

[AZChristian]

8 hours ago, jilliannatalia said:

Documentated may become the new conversated.  My personal strategy, like that of many JJ litigants,  is to add syllables to existing words whenever I wish to sound educated or scholarly. It hasn't worked out all that well for me yet, but someday it may.

Okay, you kids have fun on your excursion to Comcast.  But don't run your car off the road into water.  I don't want to read about any of you getting drownded.

[Brattinella]

4 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

Once, just once, I would love to see JJ aim a little hire with the tax cheats and have some corporation in front of her where they have to admit to hiding trillions of dollars in profit in off-shore accounts to avoid paying the taxes on those. I wonder if she gets all spun up about that or just reserves her ire for a self-employed guy who's looking to to keep his couple thousand dollars to himself. (Not saying he's right, of course!) 

I'd really like to see Her Honor's off-shore accounts and tax shelters.  I KNOW she won't pay a penny more than she must!  Hypocrite.  *Grumbles*

[SandyToes]

12 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

Why didn't the defendant landlord (dog bite case) file a counter-claim for rent? 

And why was plaintiff (who vaguely reminded me of Bernadette on Big Bang Theory) allowed to stay for six months without paying rent?  Did defendant maybe feel some responsibility for the dog bite?

But damn, I wouldn't live a chihuahua outside with a German shepherd next door, electronic fence or not. 

This is one of those posts that needs a bigger "like" button - for all three points!   When she said there was no fence, I about had a fit. I'm not an expert on electric dog collars, but I'd worry with a big dog.  We looked at a perfect house one time, except it was on the "main drag" of the subdivision.  I said no, because ALL dogs get out at some point, some how,  in my experience, and wouldn't take the risk.  

And the 60 foot leash - Pookie may be happy, but what if random other dog in the neighborhood wanders by?  

 

Quote

Previous tenant had broken a one-year lease after 8 months because of a leaky roof. Plaintiff tenant moved out immediately because of a leaky roof. Def repeating that she "fixed" the roof doesn't change the fact that the roof is leaking. Halterview: "It was her plan all along to move into my house, break my roof, and then move out."

Being in the Harvey zone myself, I watched to see where Judy was going with her questions to the Def. about other streets in the neighborhood, other houses in the neighborhood, etc.  Was ready to come unhinged if she tried to suggest Def.'s house couldn't sustain damage unless everybody else's did, too.   But she didn't (whew!).  Right call on that one, and I, too, was surprised when she awarded moving expenses. I thought it most likely because of the distances involved, even though the jobs Plaintiff mentioned didn't sound like the "only in that location" kind of jobs.  But glad she won and got the cash.  

Edited December 1, 2017 by SandyToes

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

Okay, you kids have fun on your excursion to Comcast.

So I tooken out a title loan on my '98 Pontiac Sunfire (I'm working on getting insurance for it) and pawnded my Queen Esther tiara. I'm under the assumption that you guys can pay your own way but if you can't because you all have bad credit or your sic-nif-icant other has never let you work, I can borrow you a few dollars.  We can start drinking on the way but no verbal words, spitting, choking or fistfights in my car. Comcast - here we come!

[bad things are bad]

Angela, I can only postulate that your Sunfire is in excellent condition, worth more than Blue Book value, and that the load is for some awesome wheels!

[AngelaHunter]

2 hours ago, bad things are bad said:

your Sunfire is in excellent condition, worth more than Blue Book value, and that the load is for some awesome wheels!

It's the car of my dreams even though I couldn't test drive it before buying it since it wasn't running and I had to have it towed home. The car of my dreams, I tell you! *sniffle*

[SandyToes]

But look on the bright side! You can at least go VISIT your car!  Create some new memories....

[pagooey]

4 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

So I tooken out a title loan on my '98 Pontiac Sunfire (I'm working on getting insurance for it)

Angela, hey, as long as you have an insurance card (of any vintage) in your wallet, you're golden! I'm sure it won't have lapped until the day after y'all arrive at Comcast. 

[Cocoabean]

40 minutes ago, pagooey said:

Angela, hey, as long as you have an insurance card (of any vintage) in your wallet, you're golden! I'm sure it won't have lapped until the day after y'all arrive at Comcast. 

 

I have the texes I sent to Angela axing her if she has insurance before y'all take off on the trip. She assureded me she do gots it. Course, after y'all have went to Comcast and need the evidence I will have lost this phone and proceeded to get a new one. 

[jilliannatalia]

6 minutes ago, Cocoabean said:

 

I have the texes I sent to Angela axing her if she has insurance before y'all take off on the trip. She assureded me she do gots it. Course, after y'all have went to Comcast and need the evidence I will have lost this phone and proceeded to get a new one. 

We'll get the bleeping insurance. We'll get it on the way once we begin our trip. Of course we;ll probably cause an accident just before we reach the insurance office, or the check will bounce, or some other unfortunate but typical insurance  fiasco will occur, but our intentions will have been to have insured ourselves at least with liability coverage before we totaled someone else's car.  and we'll know someone who is willing to  repair the the totaled car to a state as good as new REALLY cheaply in exchange for free babysitting or possibly sex.

[AngelaHunter]

47 minutes ago, pagooey said:

Angela, hey, as long as you have an insurance card (of any vintage) in your wallet, you're golden!

I didn't say I HAVE insurance, (or registration either but it's not my fault that there was a... umm.. a "situation" and my registration and ooops! license were revocated but it's all mistake - those dumb girls at the license bureau!) only that I'm working on it and you should all know how long that can take.

4 minutes ago, jilliannatalia said:

or the check will bounce

Why would that happen? It's a perfectly valid check I got when I answered some email promising me that the Central Bank of Nigeria finally sorted out my fund and sent it to me.

[Spunkygal]

33 minutes ago, jilliannatalia said:

We'll get the bleeping insurance. We'll get it on the way once we begin our trip. Of course we;ll probably cause an accident just before we reach the insurance office, or the check will bounce, or some other unfortunate but typical insurance  fiasco will occur, but our intentions will have been to have insured ourselves at least with liability coverage before we totaled someone else's car.  and we'll know someone who is willing to  repair the the totaled car to a state as good as new REALLY cheaply in exchange for free babysitting or possibly sex.

Oooh! Perhaps sex IN the car? Maybe it'll get towed during the boinking!

new boring case today of divorced couple and some title loan payoff: I couldn't care less about the facts but was curious that plaintiff had remarried but kept defendant's last name and they have no children together.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Oh Mah Gawd, ya'll, STAHP. I can't breathe from all the laughing.

[SandyToes]

Old case today of Ms. Boiko who sued her tenant for stealing some un-named items and pain and suffering.  "Therapy!" JJ hollers at the Plaintiff.  Yes, it was weird that she had videos of defendant/tenant photographing her paper work (looked like a tax return?!), but if you rent out a ROOM in  your home, it sounds like "invasion of privacy" is going to come with the territory! One of the best hallterviews ever:  Successful defendant says, "I knew she (JJ) had a good B.S. meter, so that's why I came."   Exactly.  For all the wackos we see and wonder why on Earth they'd come on TV, there are those few who come for precisely that reason.

 

All this talk of the road trip is starting to sound more fun than the actual trip!  Dammit! Starting to worry about @AngelaHunter's car. Sounds like more than the insurance may have 'lapped.'  

We may have to stop with the JJ-style vocabulary.  I have lost count of the times I've come THIS close to saying "conversated."  Honest to dog.  It's going to happen one day, and I will blame all of you!

[Spunkygal]

1 hour ago, SandyToes said:

Old case today of Ms. Boiko who sued her tenant for stealing some un-named items and pain and suffering.  "Therapy!" JJ hollers at the Plaintiff.  Yes, it was weird that she had videos of defendant/tenant photographing her paper work (looked like a tax return?!), but if you rent out a ROOM in  your home, it sounds like "invasion of privacy" is going to come with the territory! One of the best hallterviews ever:  Successful defendant says, "I knew she (JJ) had a good B.S. meter, so that's why I came."   Exactly.  For all the wackos we see and wonder why on Earth they'd come on TV, there are those few who come for precisely that reason.

 

All this talk of the road trip is starting to sound more fun than the actual trip!  Dammit! Starting to worry about @AngelaHunter's car. Sounds like more than the insurance may have 'lapped.'  

We may have to stop with the JJ-style vocabulary.  I have lost count of the times I've come THIS close to saying "conversated."  Honest to dog.  It's going to happen one day, and I will blame all of you!

Regarding JJ style vocabulary, I volunteer at a local school and one day I actually said to a student, "uh is not an answer!" I knew he was responsible for damaging a book and he was tripping all over himself when he realized I had caught on to his shenanigans. Quoting JJ was the first thing out of my mouth!

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, SandyToes said:

Successful defendant says, "I knew she (JJ) had a good B.S. meter, so that's why I came."  

True, but in my opinion def. is even wackier than wacky plaintiff, just in a different way. The head bobbing, the faces, the grand gestures, the arm-waving oratory about the dog (never mind the sneaking around and photographing of the papers)... nutty, she is. Completely batshit. Try to imagine living with either of them. I remember when I was living alone and complaining about expenses to a friend. "Why don't you get a room mate?" she suggested. Why, sure - I could have just advertised on CL for a total stranger to come camp out on my sofa because I needed some insanity in my life.

1 hour ago, SandyToes said:

I have lost count of the times I've come THIS close to saying "conversated."  Honest to dog.  It's going to happen one day, and I will blame all of you!

I know! "Had came" has nearly came out of my mouth more than once. Oops. The most important things I learned from watching JJ: Never cosign for anyone and get everything in writing.

Edited December 2, 2017 by AngelaHunter

[Mondrianyone]

1 hour ago, AngelaHunter said:

 The most important things I learned from watching JJ: Never cosign for anyone and get everything in writing.

And never wear short sleeves on TV.  'Cause what you think looks okay in your mirror might not look so good in my living room.  People may be eating.  This means you, Lorie Foster-Whatever of the ruined-muffler case.

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, Mondrianyone said:

And never wear short sleeves on TV.  'Cause what you think looks okay in your mirror might not look so good in my living room

Co-sign on THAT. My friend and I were looking at some pictures we were in that had been taken in the summer. We both had on tank tops and our upper arms looked like slabs of beef just waiting for Rocky Balboa to jog up to and repeatedly punch as part of his daily regimen. And we're both about 110 pounds each. 

I'm sad that everyone thinks AngelaHunter drives a car. It's a vee-hick-ull, people! GOD! 

[jilliannatalia]

4 hours ago, Spunkygal said:

Oooh! Perhaps sex IN the car? Maybe it'll get towed during the boinking!

new boring case today of divorced couple and some title loan payoff: I couldn't care less about the facts but was curious that plaintiff had remarried but kept defendant's last name and they have no children together.

I always wonder about people who keep exes' surnames after they remarry, particularly when children common to the exes don't exist.. Someone who used to live near me and whose ex still does was divorced from her f husband, then conceived a  child with God knows whom. If she herself knew who the child's father was, she wasn't sharing with either the public at large or with the county registrar. I know the part about the county registrar only because, since she kept the ex's surname, she gave the baby that surname ass well. The ex asked to see the Birth certificate to ascertain that he wasn't named as the child's father.  She refused to let him see. He had to take her to court for the right to see that he wasn't listed as the father on the birth certificate. 

 

The guy wanted to have her legally prevented from using his surname for her baby. His attorney told him, which is correct as far as I know anywhere in the U.S., that a woman has the right to retain a married name after a divorce, and she has the right to give any subsequent offspring  her current married name, her former married name by which she still goes, the baby's father's name if  he doesn't dispute fatherhood or loses the dispute by way of DNA test, or her maiden name, or to hyphenate and use more than one. . In some locations, she could also use her mother's maiden name or almost any surname in her family. in some locations she could pick a surname out of the phone book if there were still actual phone books.  In other locations, justification for giving a surname is sometimes required mainly because the use of a surname can wrongly imply paternity to those in the community in which the child lives. It's not that it's necessarily anyone's business who the kid's father is, but it's also not really fair either  to the child or to the wrongly-implied father .

 

I'm not sure what I think about the right and wrong of it. I suppose because for so long society essentially forced a woman to take a husband's name upon marriage, she should have the right to hold onto that name after a divorce, and probably  even after a remarriage if her name is connected to success in business or any other field in which being forced to  change the name would create negative economic impact.  I probably wouldn't agree with anyone's right to give a kid from a later relationship the surname of a previous spouse without his consent, though the law is whatever it is in a jurisdiction. I still think it's odd to hold on to a prior spouse's surname after moving on and marrying someone else, though. If I were the new spouse, it would imply a lack of commitment to me. Holding on to a birth name is one thing. Keeping a prior married name after remarriage is quite another.

4 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

Co-sign on THAT. My friend and I were looking at some pictures we were in that had been taken in the summer. We both had on tank tops and our upper arms looked like slabs of beef just waiting for Rocky Balboa to jog up to and repeatedly punch as part of his daily regimen. And we're both about 110 pounds each. 

I'm sad that everyone thinks AngelaHunter drives a car. It's a vee-hick-ull, people! GOD! 

I am guilty as accused, and I  hereby apologize. Vee-hick-ull it is.

[jilliannatalia]

4 hours ago, Cobalt Stargazer said:

Oh Mah Gawd, ya'll, STAHP. I can't breathe from all the laughing.

I'll let ya'll loan my inhaler if you promise you or your heirs will not sue me if you have an allergic reaction to albuterol.  I ain't no doctor with any right or ability to prescribe, though I've watched most episodes of House, MD.  Maybe in some jurisdiction that gives me the legal right to share my prescribed meds or even my street meds.

[AngelaHunter]

47 minutes ago, Mondrianyone said:

And never wear short sleeves on TV. 

Oh, spare us the sight of the bat wings flapping madly, for the love of all that's holy. And keep your tongues IN your mouths, please, especially when that mouth is toothless, because - yes, some of us watch this while eating. Jeebus.

 

6 minutes ago, jilliannatalia said:

If she herself knew who the child's father was, she wasn't sharing with either the public at large or with the county registrar.

So, what? She put "Father Unknown" on the birth certificate? Well, I think many of our litigants have to do that as well.

 

11 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

I'm sad that everyone thinks AngelaHunter drives a car. It's a vee-hick-ull, people!

Actually I'm thinking of "updating my transportation". JJ-speak translation: My other old junker died, so I'm going to scrounge up a less ancient vee-HICK-le on CL.

[Jamoche]

My mom remarried when she was almost 60 and kept the name she'd had since she was 22. My brother, OTOH, took advantage of how it's easier to change surnames when you marry to dump the paternal DNA contributor's name in favor of Mom's maiden name. And then my grandmother decided it would be too confusing on my grandfather's obituary to have one son's surname not match his siblings, so she put my brother in with our uncle's kids.

... I'm starting to sound like we belong on JJ, aren't I?

[jilliannatalia]

20 minutes ago, Jamoche said:

My mom remarried when she was almost 60 and kept the name she'd had since she was 22. My brother, OTOH, took advantage of how it's easier to change surnames when you marry to dump the paternal DNA contributor's name in favor of Mom's maiden name. And then my grandmother decided it would be too confusing on my grandfather's obituary to have one son's surname not match his siblings, so she put my brother in with our uncle's kids.

... I'm starting to sound like we belong on JJ, aren't I?

I think it's funny that your grandmother did what she did.  I'm not in any way mocking the solemnity of your grandfather's death and subsequent need for an obit, but your grandmother's response does amuse me.

[Jamoche]

51 minutes ago, jilliannatalia said:

I think it's funny that your grandmother did what she did.  I'm not in any way mocking the solemnity of your grandfather's death and subsequent need for an obit, but your grandmother's response does amuse me.

My grandfather was 90 and my grandmother only a few years younger, so my brother let it slide. I think Mom was the only one annoyed. 

[AngelaHunter]

9 hours ago, Jamoche said:

My grandfather was 90 and my grandmother only a few years younger, so my brother let it slide.

I understand what she did better than I do your brother changing his name. What am I missing? Was he hiding assets, running from the law, ducking child support? Eek, sorry! I watch way too much JJ.:(

Anyway, around here when you marry, you must keep your own surname. I guess official entities got sick of all documentation needing repeated altering as everyone gets divorced and remarried as though they're game show contestants and the one with the most name changes wins.

[Brattinella]

2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Anyway, around here when you marry, you must keep your own surname. I guess official entities got sick of all documentation needing repeated altering as everyone gets divorced and remarried as though they're game show contestants and the one with the most name changes wins.

What a sensible solution!

[jilliannatalia]

2 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

I understand what she did better than I do your brother changing his name. What am I missing? Was he hiding assets, running from the law, ducking child support? Eek, sorry! I watch way too much JJ.:(

Anyway, around here when you marry, you must keep your own surname. I guess official entities got sick of all documentation needing repeated altering as everyone gets divorced and remarried as though they're game show contestants and the one with the most name changes wins.

I can see why officials would reach that conclusion.. I taught one year with a woman whose fourth-grade students were required to call her  by four different surnames  during the course of a single school year. I don't believe  all four names were legal changes at the time she was forcing the students to address her by them, but it didn't stop her from  biting the head off any poor kid who was confused about the nom du jour.  She further complicated matters [this at least didn't involve the poor students] by changing her first name in the middle of all of it as well.  it would have been far less complicated for a pack of little nine-year-olds had the law been that she had been required to go by her birth name for the entire year.And this was in Utah where, though the divorce rate is probably roughly what it is everywhere else in the nation,  that sort of  transiency in terms of lifestyle is at least officially frowned upon.

[Jamoche]

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

I understand what she did better than I do your brother changing his name. What am I missing? Was he hiding assets, running from the law, ducking child support? Eek, sorry! I watch way too much JJ.:(

The clue is in "paternal DNA contributor" - he was an abusive asshole and my brother didn't want his name.

[AngelaHunter]

1 hour ago, Brattinella said:

What a sensible solution!

I was happy when the law changed before I got married. I like my name, plus the thought of changing everything from SIN to license, insurance (yes, I DO have both!), bills, charge cards etc etc  was exhausting. My husband, a little more old school, griped. "We're married, we don't even have the same name and you don't even care." "Well," I said, "if you want us to have the same name, how about if you change YOURS to mine." End of conversation.

 

24 minutes ago, jilliannatalia said:

I taught one year with a woman whose fourth-grade students were required to call her  by four different surnames  during the course of a single school year.

She definitely wins.

1 minute ago, Jamoche said:

The clue is in "paternal DNA contributor"

Yes, I did catch that and thought maybe he was an absentee father. Sorry you had to live through that. :(

[AZChristian]

25 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I was happy when the law changed before I got married. I like my name, plus the thought of changing everything from SIN to license, insurance (yes, I DO have both!), bills, charge cards etc etc  was exhausting. My husband, a little more old school, griped. "We're married, we don't even have the same name and you don't even care." "Well," I said, "if you want us to have the same name, how about if you change YOURS to mine." End of conversation.

I actually knew a young man who took his wife's maiden name as his last name when they married.  There were only daughters on the wife's side of the family, and the in-laws encouraged him to do so to carry on the family name.  I $u$pect they made it worth hi$ while.

[Florinaldo]

3 hours ago, AngelaHunter said:

Anyway, around here when you marry, you must keep your own surname. I guess official entities got sick of all documentation needing repeated altering as everyone gets divorced and remarried as though they're game show contestants and the one with the most name changes wins.

When the change was made in the Province of Québec in the early 80s, the reason given was to erase a practice that made a woman's identity  subversient to her husband's. You can still get a name change, but only in very exceptional circumstances (e. g. a name too difficult to pronounce or write in French or English, a name open to ridicule, etc.), but they are not granted often, and just about never for reasons of marriage or "family unity". I am sure however that authorities thought that the reduction in the administrative workload was a positive side benefit.

Although citizens are required to use their birth names in exercising their civic rights (passports, income tax, employment records, etc.), they are free to do what they want in their social life, like hyphenate the two names or take their spouse's. A good example is our Prime Minister's wife: Sophie Grégoire is her legal name, but she is most often referred as "Grégoire-Trudeau" in media stories, I suppose to avoid the possibility that people might think our PM is living "in sin". Politics is still a conservative milieu: our previous PM's wife, who used to go by her maiden name before he got elected, changed it to "Harper" when he got into office. Reportedly, Grégoire does not like being called only "Sophie Trudeau", as U.S. media tend to do.

 

52 minutes ago, jilliannatalia said:

I taught one year with a woman whose fourth-grade students were required to call her  by four different surnames  during the course of a single school year.

What would motivate someone to change her name so often? Was she trying out some fancy spellings that are supposed to appear so sophisticated, like so many litigants' parents did when they were naming their newborns?

[AngelaHunter]

19 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

This means you, Lorie Foster-Whatever of the ruined-muffler case.

O.M.G. Lorrie demonstrated in real time the meaning of the word "lumbered" as she lumbered up the courtroom aisle. I was expecting to hear the T-Rex sound effects from "Jurassic Park" ("Boom... boom... ) along with seeing water vibrating in glasses (if anyone were allowed to drink the water, that is.) Lorrie is a scamming liar - and a really bad, stupid liar - looking for a lottery, but those arms she displayed here? Wow. Awful, horrible lying creep who needs to cover that shit UP. Lorrie is told to get lost, and does so, with her Uriah Heep-ish hubby trailing after her.

I had forgotten about Ms. Dellacroce(?) bitching because her former lover-boy assualted her and... did some other stuff. I dunno. Her slurred and drunken (or zonked on pills and of course has children) call to 911 was epic. She complained there that def. had "pushed" her, but tells JJ he grabbed her arm (As if that tiny little guy could get his tiny little fingers around her massive biceps), threw her on the concrete floor and spit in her face. I guess she didn't think any of that was worth relating to the 911 dispatcher. "Gabriel", co-def. is a ridiculous asshole, a senior citizen who is shocked - shocked, I tell you - at the sight of booze and pill bottles. So shocked and horrified was he that he felt a burning need to post them on his FB page. "Ooh, look at all the pill bottles and empty vodka bottles here. Ooh, I am so shocked!") As JJ said, I could see children doing such things. Gabriel is totally obsequious, with his excuses and his multiple, "Thank you, your honour." Ugh. Seeing people the ages of all these litigants behaving this way is kind of disgusting and depressing.

[AngelaHunter]

The name thing? Reminds me of something I saw on TeeVee once:

If Ivana Trump married Neil Diamond, she'd be Ivana Diamond.

If she divorced him and married Jack Nicklaus, she'd be Ivana Diamond Nicklaus

If she divorced Jack and married Ron Darling, she'd be Ivana Diamond Nicklaus Darling.

Okay, I'm leaving right now.

[jilliannatalia]

3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I actually knew a young man who took his wife's maiden name as his last name when they married.  There were only daughters on the wife's side of the family, and the in-laws encouraged him to do so to carry on the family name.  I $u$pect they made it worth hi$ while.

My cousin and her husband each kept their original surnames first, then hyphenated and added the other's name at the end.

[jilliannatalia]

3 hours ago, Florinaldo said:

 

What would motivate someone to change her name so often? Was she trying out some fancy spellings that are supposed to appear so sophisticated, like so many litigants' parents did when they were naming their newborns?

She and her original ez had filed but the divorce wasn't quite final, but it was an amicable enough separation,, plus  she had kids with the guy who had his last name, plus she had been known at the school in prior years by the married name, which was why she started the year with the name.  Then there was a blowout in court over, of all things, a stack of "Grateful Dead" vinyl albums. The next day she was back to her maiden name. Then midway through the year, once her divorce was final, she remarried and took #2's surname. Then she decided to hyphenate it with her maiden name. Then by late April she and #2 were kaput.   it was back to maiden name, except that by that time she had also changed her first name and was actually legally in the process of making the change. 

 

I'm not up on all the changes because I no longer live thee, but I heard she has married and divorced twice since then, had a third marriage annulled, and is back to her maiden name with the legally changed first name.   My current information may not be accurate, though. For all I know, she's now calling herself "Camilla Parker Bowles" since Camilla doesn't really need the name any longer.

[Brattinella]

I never took my ex-husband's name, and it's a good thing; he turned out to be an abusive, cheating jerk.

[Mondrianyone]

19 hours ago, Giant Misfit said:

Co-sign on THAT. My friend and I were looking at some pictures we were in that had been taken in the summer. We both had on tank tops and our upper arms looked like slabs of beef just waiting for Rocky Balboa to jog up to and repeatedly punch as part of his daily regimen. And we're both about 110 pounds each.

I hear you.  It's been a long time since anybody wrote poems dedicated to my upper arms either.  ("Shall I compare thee to a cannèd ham? / Thou art more gummy and more gelatinous"--apologies to Shakespeare.)  But I know how to dress myself for the body I have, not the body I'd like to pretend I have or what looked cute on me when I was 22.  It's not that hard.  I wish more litigants on JJ would try it.

And Rocky better keep his damn hands off you, GM.