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By HartofDixie
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GreyBunny
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Gabby has worked her ass off for years, has been a proud member of the US team, and is a great role model for young kids who are up and coming. To say that her not putting her hand over her heart nega

KBrownie
KBrownie

It's not about being "PC" as you put it.  He literally tried to erase her parents from her life to fit whatever narrative he has in his head about what family means.  It's not some trite quibble over

walnutqueen
walnutqueen

Protocol is not law, and has nothing to do with being an American.  Fortunately, Americans live in a free country where they have the right to disagree with your sentiments and still be Americans (and

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Daisy

Daisy

I don't get MAG scoring. I don't get how Whitlock got a low score on rings. 

also. I think Pommels is my 2nd favourite MAG event. I don't understand it AT ALL, but it's so beautiful to watch. It's like the male version of the balance beam. 

Hello you sexy Swiss Man. (who is probably like a decade younger than me so now i feel pervy). 

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topanga

topanga

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Dang it! My NBC app is acting up. 

So I'll have to get the play-by-play from you guys. 

 

Someone upthread asked about the possibility of women doing pommel horse and other types of gymnastics It would be difficult (though not impossible) because female gymnasts tend have smaller hands than men. The other argument is that because a woman's center of gravity is in her pelvis (and not in her chest, like a man's is), it would be harder for her to swing her hips around the horse. But this same argument was made for women pole vaulters--that we'd never be able to do it because of our center of gravity. And we rock the pole vault. (Not that I'm a pole vaulter or anything). 

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Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

6 minutes ago, Daisy said:

I don't get MAG scoring. I don't get how Whitlock got a low score on rings. 

also. I think Pommels is my 2nd favourite MAG event. I don't understand it AT ALL, but it's so beautiful to watch. It's like the male version of the balance beam. 

Hello you sexy Swiss Man. (who is probably like a decade younger than me so now i feel pervy). 

Whitlock was overscored. He had fewer strength elements than the top rings workers. The commentators thought he should have scored low-14s. 

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twoods

twoods

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Are they kidding me about the Gabby thing? It's as if they are nitpicking now since the gymnasts were drama free this year. Plenty of players in the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. don't put their hands over their heart. Who the fuck cares? Get a life Twitter idiots. Another reason why social media sucks major ass. 

I like how friendly the men gymnasts are to each other. Im surprised that they aren't showing Sam or Chris on the live feed, but enjoying everyone else.

I wonder if the men tire out more than the females (and are more sloppy at the end) because they do 6 nstead of 4 events. How exhausting!

Hello, smoking hot Marcel.

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Forgot parallel bars!
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legaleagle53

legaleagle53

2 minutes ago, twoods said:

I wonder if the men tire out more than the females (and are more sloppy at the end) because they do 5 instead of 4 events. How exhausting!

The men do six events (floor exercise, high bar, parallel bars, pommel horse, rings, and vault).  As you say, it's quite exhausting, mainly because it requires so much upper-body and core strength as well as stamina.

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Jillibean

Jillibean

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I feel bad for Gabby. She has gotten so much negativity over such a wide variety of things, both those within her control and those outside her control. I highly doubt she intended disrespect during the ceremony, so I don't see the point of lambasting her for it. She'll remember for next time, but she also likely would have remembered it for next time if people had brought it to her attention in a kind or respectful way, or even a questioning way. Instead, an uncomfortable number of people jump to a place of "how dare she," as though she's sitting in her room at night plotting ways to slight her country.  You have to wonder if the outrage would be this potent if it had been someone other than Gabby Douglas, who seems to be a magnet for social media fury. 

ETA: Sam landed his vault on his knees. I mean, at least he's consistent.

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twoods

twoods

3 minutes ago, legaleagle53 said:

The men do six events (floor exercise, high bar, parallel bars, pommel horse, rings, and vault).  As you say, it's quite exhausting, mainly because it requires so much upper-body and core strength as well as stamina.

Yikes I forgot about parallel bars. Thanks.

What is up with the low scoring for the high bar?

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GreyBunny

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1 hour ago, Brattinella said:

There are NO exemptions to the hand over heart protocol!  Either you are an American or you are not.  If you can't show respect to the flag for 90 seconds, maybe you should live somewhere else.

Gabby has worked her ass off for years, has been a proud member of the US team, and is a great role model for young kids who are up and coming. To say that her not putting her hand over her heart negates all of the hard work she has done on behalf of the US, somehow makes her un-American, and she should be kicked out of the country is incredibly petty and completely asinine.

Patriotism isn't about choreography.  If someone doesn't want to put their hand over their heart (I don't) they have every right not to do so.   It's places like North Korea and the former Soviet Union where people are shamed, forced, threatened, and even jailed if they don't bow or salute the right way or don't wear the right "patriotic" pins on their clothes.  I'd rather not live in a place like North Korea, nor be told to "live somewhere else" just because I don't put my hand on my chest. 

Being an American means I have the RIGHT to CHOOSE whether or not I put my hand over my heart, wear a flag pin, or say the Pledge of Allegiance.  If someone else doesn't like it - too damn bad for them, maybe they should mind their own business.

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Daisy

Daisy

grr. see. Kyle. and Brenda. this is where you'd go when you say "it was sad that Switzerland finished 9th... because Ukraine decided to throw the match. i wonder what it was like for them to know that. i think that's wrong"

Wow. that German guy was going for the  first ever move but totally bit it. :( I guess he has to wait until worlds now 

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Avaleigh

Avaleigh

1 hour ago, AuntieDiane6 said:

Mary Lou Retton earned $10 million.  Tours, books (her autobiography, written for children), endorsements (Wheaties, bowling centers--yes, I remember those ads), TV appearances, dolls, gym apparel, camps ... 

A lot of former gymnasts seem like they do well for themselves. Nastia is certainly one of the better examples but even more relatively unknown gymnasts (unknown outside of fans of the sport) like Betty Okino, Amanda Borden, Dominique Dawes--they all seem like they've been able to use their gymnastics to lead to other opportunities. 

47 minutes ago, Daisy said:

2000 Al tried to make it be "Super Six." 

I recall commentators saying the Sydney Six and am wondering if anyone else remembers this. I can't recall if 2004 had a nickname and am curious. 

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Did somebody curse the vault again? I am not seeing good form over there. 

Am I correct in thinking that Sydney was the year that something was up with the height of the vault or something like that and it resulted in several gymnasts blowing their attempts?

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TigerLynx

TigerLynx

1 hour ago, walnutqueen said:

If hand to heart during the anthem was the yardstick, most of the country would be deported to Canada!  ;-)

What if Canada doesn't want us?

Poor Gabby.  Some people have way to much time on their hands.  They will look for anything to criticize.

I loved watching the USA women gymnasts, but I wanted to see the other teams to.  NBC sucks.

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Daisy

Daisy

1 minute ago, Avaleigh said:

A lot of former gymnasts seem like they do well for themselves. Nastia is certainly one of the better examples but even more relatively unknown gymnasts (unknown outside of fans of the sport) like Betty Okino, Amanda Borden, Dominique Dawes--they all seem like they've been able to use their gymnastics to lead to other opportunities. 

I recall commentators saying the Sydney Six and am wondering if anyone else remembers this. I can't recall if 2004 had a nickname and am curious. 

Speaking of Sydney--

Am I correct in thinking that Sydney was the year that something was up with the height of the vault or something like that and it resulted in several gymnasts blowing their attempts?


I don't remember Sidney Six. but then i was 16 and my memory is old. 
and ye. that was the infamous low vault :(

Chris Brooks was a great high bar set. 

DawnDavenport

DawnDavenport

Just now, kittykat said:

At least that put him in the Top Ten.

Chris Brooks on the other hand just passed Kato for 4th.  However he ends on Pommel so...

Sam is now 11th after Chaopan's parallel bar score. I don't want the Chinese men to medal #TearsofNoMedal. Luckily he's got High Bar and Floor next. Not good events. 

Verniaiev better not win this. I'l be pissed and he'll be the most undeserved gold medalist ever!

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