Season 18 Live Feed Discussion: Their Lives are Almost as Boring as Ours!

[Nashville]

4 hours ago, Dewey Decimate said:

I only get to watch BBAD, but has anyone ever suggested to Bridgette that she follow James' lead and do her best to throw an HoH comp? I really need to see that domineering, charm-free, fake-ass, gas-filled, low-rent Greatest American Hero/Luke and Laura wanna-be motherfucker in jeopardy.

C'mon, Dewey.  Don't hold back.  Tell us how you really feel.  :D

 

3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Dude, she's bitching this much over a two day pre-feeds cuddlemance. She never shuts up about it. How is she going to react when you accidentally leave the toilet seat up at night and she takes a dive into the bowl? What happens when you forget to take out the garbage? 

What else would you expect from someone with the Crazy Eyes?

 

3 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I mean yea they had a segment on the show about him being a dick to her but it wasn't bad enough imo to warrant her obsession over him. Do we know that he 'broke it off' with her though? I just assumed she ended their 'relationship.'

When Natalie and James were doing their faux interviews in the London Room, Natalie specifically stated she had been "dumped".

 

6 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Michelle's fake Facebook boyfriend Brodie story is never not gonna be creepy. That's just wrong. 

Every time I hear this I'm reminded of Jan Brady's boyfriend George Glass.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Nashville
Missed one.

[Nashville]

Is it just my imagination, or is the most rational, strategy-savvy player in the Game currently... Paulie?

[Umbelina]

Everything happens that matters late at night.  I need to start getting used to using flashback and going to bed.

Michelle and Tiffany are freaking out Nicole, Day, and Zak, said they have to stop telling them so much, and need to tell them to cool their jets about the word vomit, and in Tiffany's case, the tears.

Nicole now telling Michelle she needs to watch her mouth about the girl's alliance ect.  Michelle admits that she said Tiffany proposed it and they said now. 

Zak ran back upstairs to babysit Tiffany in the HOH.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Umbelina

[Umbelina]

After dithering around all day and all night about throwing or not throwing tomorrows HOH, the remains of the 9 pack (not sure about James or Corey yet) have decided they are over Frank completely, and they don't want to throw it.

Nicole hit a wall in DR early this morning, came out with a few tears, conversation shortly after 3AM BBT saying "she is done."  Done taking Frank's shit, done throwing comps, done not being able to be herself, sick of the constant lies and insults.  Michelle and Day completely agree.  Day says Corey feels the same way about having Frank continue to order them around. 

Interesting.  The DR didn't influence Nicole to trust or keep Frank, or if they did?  Massive fail.

[Ceeg]

They probably know it's moot because they can rig it for Frank to win the buyback. 

[Lady Calypso]

9 hours ago, Ceeg said:

They probably know it's moot because they can rig it for Frank to win the buyback. 

Production/Grodner probably just want an epic moment where Frank walks back into the house, and then cue the constant rigging. 

I'd laugh in their faces if he gets evicted, but then doesn't win Battle Back.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Lady Calypso

[Wings]

I am catching up  this morning.  It is a tedious read so I leaped through a few twitter feeds to get the gist. 

For awhile last night everyone was still "afraid" of Frank.  If one of us wins, Frank will expect us to put Tiffany up. James says, I will throw it.  Frank will blow up if_____.  Frank thinks_____.   And on it went.   We have to wait 2 weeks to put Frank on the block.  Blah blah blah. 

Then it takes a turn in the wee house seemingly sparked by Nicole's DR session.  In tears she emerges and blasts Frank to her trusted HGs.  I am not even going to try and figure out who those are.  That will change tomorrow.  Michele will be frozen out of the talks because she has a big mouth. 

So if Nicole was encouraged by the DR to take a close look at Frank's nasty behavior and become fired up about it, where is the conspiracy?  It doesn't sound like Grodner is trying to keep Frank safe, at all. 

As far as I could see, everyone went to bed convinced that all go for the HOH and Frank has to go next week. 

For those of you who watched or read more extensively, is this an accurate take on things?  

I read Day is no longer with Z because of her showmance. pffft  I don't care.  She changes every 5 minutes (no exaggeration).  

[peachmangosteen]

9 hours ago, Umbelina said:

Nicole is now a target too, they realize how many alliances she's in. 

Yay!

7 hours ago, Nashville said:

Is it just my imagination, or is the most rational, strategy-savvy player in the Game currently... Paulie?

It's just your imagination! ;)

2 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

Production/Grodner probably just want an epic moment where Frank walks back into the house, and then cue the constant rigging. 

Yea I could see that. It is good tv. If you like Frank, that is. But I'm with you, I'd love to see him get evicted and then lose the Battle Back comp. Now that would be good tv!

[BlackMamba]

After several nights of watching this week of LFs

 

 

The vets suck ass. 

At this rate - Natalie,  Paul or Corey might win this game because everyone is gaming way too hard.   I thought the first few weeks should be social time but yet getting the not worthy hgs out.   It's like the hgs have 3 or 4 alliances (that includes the production team twist) and the plans for evictions change every 20 mins.  

At the same time I love it because the editing will have a lot of  material to work with for the regular episodes.   But whew breathe people!   

Edited July 7, 2016 by BlackMamba

[Ceeg]

I think the upside of all this is that Frank isn't going to win AFP this year. Unless they literally misreport the total votes. He will likely get voted out early, so he'll be out of people's minds by the end, and no one online likes him. He's currently #14 on Joker's. 

[MV007]

I don't think Frank had any chance at beating James anyway.  James is getting the AFP edit hard right now.

[Snaporaz]

13 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I will say, I don't mind being on Natalie: Victor's so mean!!1 duty. I mean, the past two previous seasons, I accidentally picked up Did Austin Wash Anything in the Shower duty and Jocasta's Poop Issues duty. This one is easier to stomach.

Wow!  I appreciate that you're always willing to take one for the team.  And yes, you deserve to have a "light duty" case this summer.

[Nashville]

2 hours ago, wings707 said:

So if Nicole was encouraged by the DR to take a close look at Frank's nasty behavior and become fired up about it, where is the conspiracy?  It doesn't sound like Grodner is trying to keep Frank safe, at all. 

1. Frank's behavior this season has been increasingly abrasive to to date.  Pulling him out for a while (with intentions for him to return via B4*) might allow time for the other HGs' tempers to cool off, and maybe even forget some of his antics and/or their level of irritation.  
2. Also keeps Frank from continuing to add to his list of offenses.
3. Make the B4 comps physical endurance comps, and Frank could easily sail past the other evictees to date.  Only exception would be (most likely) Victor, and that could easily be addressed by making a Frank/Vic B4 comp a timed recycle of a previous BB comp with which Frank is familiar but Vic isn't.
4. Remove Frank from the daily House dynamic, and his loyalists - most of whom are newbies, and some of whom are already waffling on him - will be panicked and scrambling in the resulting power vacuum.  Reintroduce Frank after a short hiatus (a week or two), and any former wafflers who couldn't forge a solid new alliance in the interim will, upon Frank's return, be willing to lick his ass clean in the absence of toilet paper.

Not that I think this would really work - but Grodner might, and I think even she is probably a little horrified at how badly Frank is alienating people only two weeks into broadcast.  AG might see pulling Frank from GenPop and putting him in solitary for a short time as the only way to keep Frank from augering in his game in a somewhat spectacular fashion.

 

* B4 = BB Battle Back

[Wings]

1 hour ago, Nashville said:

1. Frank's behavior this season has been increasingly abrasive to to date.  Pulling him out for a while (with intentions for him to return via B4*) might allow time for the other HGs' tempers to cool off, and maybe even forget some of his antics and/or their level of irritation.  
2. Also keeps Frank from continuing to add to his list of offenses.
3. Make the B4 comps physical endurance comps, and Frank could easily sail past the other evictees to date.  Only exception would be (most likely) Victor, and that could easily be addressed by making a Frank/Vic B4 comp a timed recycle of a previous BB comp with which Frank is familiar but Vic isn't.
4. Remove Frank from the daily House dynamic, and his loyalists - most of whom are newbies, and some of whom are already waffling on him - will be panicked and scrambling in the resulting power vacuum.  Reintroduce Frank after a short hiatus (a week or two), and any former wafflers who couldn't forge a solid new alliance in the interim will, upon Frank's return, be willing to lick his ass clean in the absence of toilet paper.

Not that I think this would really work - but Grodner might, and I think even she is probably a little horrified at how badly Frank is alienating people only two weeks into broadcast.  AG might see pulling Frank from GenPop and putting him in solitary for a short time as the only way to keep Frank from augering in his game in a somewhat spectacular fashion.

 

* B4 = BB Battle Back

I am catching up  this morning.  It is a tedious read so I leaped through a few twitter feeds to get the gist. 

For awhile last night everyone was still "afraid" of Frank.  If one of us wins, Frank will expect us to put Tiffany up. James says, I will throw it.  Frank will blow up if_____.  Frank thinks_____.   And on it went.   We have to wait 2 weeks to put Frank on the block.  Blah blah blah. 

Then it takes a turn in the wee house seemingly sparked by Nicole's DR session.  In tears she emerges and blasts Frank to her trusted HGs.  I am not even going to try and figure out who those are.  That will change tomorrow.  Michele will be frozen out of the talks because she has a big mouth. 

So if Nicole was encouraged by the DR to take a close look at Frank's nasty behavior and become fired up about it, where is the conspiracy?  It doesn't sound like Grodner is trying to keep Frank safe, at all. 

As far as I could see, everyone went to bed convinced that all go for the HOH and Frank has to go next week. 

For those of you who watched or read more extensively, is this an accurate take on things?  

I read Day is no longer with Z because of her showmance. pffft  I don't care.  She changes every 5 minutes (no exaggeration).  

 

 

Well, shit.  That takes a little shine off a Frank boot. ;^)  

Edited July 7, 2016 by wings707

[NeelyOh]

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Yea I could see that. It is good tv. If you like Frank, that is. But I'm with you, I'd love to see him get evicted and then lose the Battle Back comp. Nowthat would be good tv!

Agreed! And if he was beaten by a newbie, that would be golden. I will be shocked if this group can pull off the plan to get Frank out but would be extremely happy to see it happen. At this point though, I can see Frank pulling out an HOH win if he thinks nobody's throwing it and then handing it to Bridgette to do his dirty work. 

Seems like last night Nic and Da' mended everything and Nic explained that she thought the 5-person alliance would be good for both of them since there were 2 strong guys to help them and a loyal group. She assured Da' that she knows she could never win at the end against a newbie and used Dan as an example. Who knows how long this detente will last but I don't want those two to turn on each other. And who knows why Nic continues to think Corey is a strong player? 

I think Da' believes that Z would side with Paulie over her if it came down to it but I wouldn't say that Da' is "done" with Z.

James asked Nic and Corey if they had heard anything about or had joined a 5-person alliance made up of Corey, Paulie, Nic, Z, etc. and he knows they both lied to him (Da' had told him abt the alliance). He's still up for getting Frank out but will likely remember this down the road.

Nat told Bridgette that she has been purposely trying to turn everyone against Vic to save Bronte by telling them how mean Vic was to her and that he hurt her feelings. Maybe this accounts for at least some of her obsessing over Victor's "dumping' her?

[keke23]

I took 2 days off from feeds watching because I couldn't take Paul being on camera no matter how many times I switched.  So to me everything that I have read means he's slipped through the cracks and I will have to continue my summer of Paul dodging.

I didn't like Frank the first time and I still can't find a reason to like him.

I'm loading up on caffeine cause hopefully tonights feeds will be magical or at least entertaining. I think there's going to be lots of scrambling going on.

[peachmangosteen]

Michelle is insane. But I will say that is a very good photoshop job!

ETA: I'm reading that Michelle plans on throwing HOH and that she was shit talking Frank with Day and Nicole earlier. Damn at that 180!

I'm telling you, Frank will end up winning HOH because we can never have nice things.

Edited July 7, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[Callaphera]

13 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I'm telling you, Frank will end up winning HOH because we can never have nice things.

I have wine set aside if someone not from his team (like Tiffany) wins HoH and harder stuff in the cupboard in case Frank wins HoH. If it's someone from his team, I'll be cool until I learn who won Roadkill. And possibly Veto.  

I'm just saying, if any of the comps have to do with farting or Fun Facts about Mike Boogie, the fix is in.

[mooses]

4 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Michelle is insane. But I will say that is a very good photoshop job!

Wow. That is hilarious.

2 hours ago, wings707 said:

So if Nicole was encouraged by the DR to take a close look at Frank's nasty behavior and become fired up about it, where is the conspiracy?  It doesn't sound like Grodner is trying to keep Frank safe, at all. 

I think we'll be able to see depending on the edit he gets in the show. Will they portray him as a bully who makes the girls uncomfortable? Or do the old Frank edit?

2 hours ago, NeelyOh said:

James asked Nic and Corey if they had heard anything about or had joined a 5-person alliance made up of Corey, Paulie, Nic, Z, etc. and he knows they both lied to him (Da' had told him abt the alliance). He's still up for getting Frank out but will likely remember this down the road.

I'm wondering what James will do with this information. And what Corey/Nicole will do with it for that matter. If James tells Day he asked, she'll be pissed. If Corey/Nicole say he asked - Day definitely has a good lie that involves putting the blame on Tiffany. I don't doubt it. But Corey didn't mention James asking to Paulie last night, so I don't know if he's just sitting on the information, or his goldfish memory span wouldn't let him remember. I also don't have much faith in James' ability to remember they lied and use that information.

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Nat told Bridgette that she has been purposely trying to turn everyone against Vic to save Bronte by telling them how mean Vic was to her and that he hurt her feelings. Maybe this accounts for at least some of her obsessing over Victor's "dumping' her?

That makes sense. Now I understand her hemming and hawing over that. I mean, it was unnecessary but it goes to show that Natalie knows what she's doing and no one will suspect her of having an underlying motive because she seems so genuine. That ability can come in handy when they're in bigger trouble.

Also: After Day told Tiff about the showmance alliance, Tiffany went up and talked to Paulie about him not trusting her. Paulie then told Z that Tiffany was "interrogating him. Z told Day, who told Tiffany that Z said she was in the room at the time, and Tiffany said she wasn't interrogating him (which, to be fair, it's just how she talks) and Z wasn't in the room anyway and who would lie about that. 

After this, Z said she doesn't not want to work with Tiffany at all and she's done with her. And Day was not too happy with Tiffany doing her Tiffany "social game."

[Brian Cronin]

Tiffany really is just a shittier version of Vanessa. She has the same annoying social tics as Vanessa, but none of the sharp intelligence. Vanessa was a smart player who saw the game really well. She just sometimes lacked the ability to accurately control things. And even with that in mind, she still ended up almost winning the game, because what she COULD control, she controlled very well. Here, though, Tiffany doesn't have the control OR the correct view of how the game is lined up. She just has the aggravating social tics. 

[NeelyOh]

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I'm wondering what James will do with this information. And what Corey/Nicole will do with it for that matter. If James tells Day he asked, she'll be pissed. If Corey/Nicole say he asked - Day definitely has a good lie that involves putting the blame on Tiffany. I don't doubt it. But Corey didn't mention James asking to Paulie last night, so I don't know if he's just sitting on the information, or his goldfish memory span wouldn't let him remember. I also don't have much faith in James' ability to remember they lied and use that information.

When James asked Nic and Corey, Nic said something like, "no, but I heard about it"  I think she may have thought it was another Frank issue and I'm not sure that it occurred to her that Da' said something to James. Nic said something to Da' about it afterwards and Da' played it off as being about one of Frank's proposed alliances as well. However, I think James took it as a lie and is just tucking it away not necessarily to use against them but just to remember that they aren't as loyal to him as he might like. 

When Da' told James about the proposed alliance, she was crying because she felt like she had lost Nic and the two couples were trying to string her along (and of course James was upset that nobody has included him in any of these separate alliances). She and James were talking about Nic being too close to Corey and agreed that it they get rid of Corey, they'll get Nic back and that they need her. So maybe in the not too distant future, if one of them wins Roadkill and can nominate anonymously, Corey might make an early exit....?  I think at least two of the three females on the other side say that they would nominate Corey if they win HOH.

This morning when Nic and Corey were talking, she said that she hopes Da' doesn't win the HOH but it would be OK if Z wins it. She didn't explain why. Is it just general mistrust in Da', which may have stared with the lie about Tiffany going after Frank? 

[mooses]

3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Tiffany really is just a shittier version of Vanessa. She has the same annoying social tics as Vanessa, but none of the sharp intelligence. Vanessa was a smart player who saw the game really well. She just sometimes lacked the ability to accurately control things. And even with that in mind, she still ended up almost winning the game, because what she COULD control, she controlled very well. Here, though, Tiffany doesn't have the control OR the correct view of how the game is lined up. She just has the aggravating social tics. 

Totally. Vanessa was really, really good. And her social weirdness wasn't a deal breaker for the HGs because they hadn't just watched someone do that same thing last season. 

Tiffany will never be able to control anything. Like you said, she just doesn't read people or situations as well as her sister - and even if she did, no one will let her use that information. She literally walks by and people say she's creeping them out. All these "explosions" and "blowing things up" are, for the most part, just myths and legends, but they're putting everyone on high alert. Frank was going on and on about how she is the root of paranoia in the house - if she goes, everyone will be happy and free! And the HGs believe that! People are terrified of her, but she really has no game - it's just Vanessa PTSD. 

1 minute ago, NeelyOh said:

So maybe in the not too distant future, if one of them wins Roadkill and can nominate anonymously, Corey might make an early exit....?  I think at least two of the three females on the other side say that they would nominate Corey if they win HOH.

This morning when Nic and Corey were talking, she said that she hopes Da' doesn't win the HOH but it would be OK if Z wins it. She didn't explain why. Is it just general mistrust in Da', which may have stared with the lie about Tiffany going after Frank? 

I could definitely do without Corey. I can't listen to him and Nicole talking - and I say this as a (former?) Nicole fan. From what I remember, the mistrust was kind of there when Day started whisperings about Frank, but got real with Day's reaction to the showmance alliance. And now Nicole has to be questioning where James' information came from.

I'm thinking this will be an individual HG HOH effort and if you win you keep your team safe. Although seeing Frank's reaction to Michelle throwing the HOH would be amazing.

[Nashville]

15 hours ago, RCharter said:

pfffft.....fake.......she probably has him buried in a basement somewhere.

What's she got to bury - a memory card with backups of her Photoshop files? 

[Brian Cronin]

9 minutes ago, mooses said:

And her social weirdness wasn't a deal breaker for the HGs because they hadn't just watched someone do that same thing last season. 

Definitely a major factor into them reading more into Tiffany than she is putting out there. 

But oh man, I was just thinking of another big difference. Could you ever imagine Vanessa being dumb enough to sit there and stare at her ally's board during a POV to make sure she beat her ALLY?!?

EDITED TO ADD: I mean, I wouldn't put it past Vanessa to have basically the same idea (she WAS super paranoid herself). She just wouldn't be dumb enough to do it so openly as to get caught.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Brian Cronin

[RCharter]

Just now, Nashville said:

What's she got to bury - a memory card with backups of her Photoshop files? 

I think the "fake" FB page is a convenient cover...I think this guy is probably real and she probably skinned off his face so she can wear it and pretend she is "brody the boyfriend"

His body is hidden in a shallow grave, and his family members are probably wondering where he is.

[Ceeg]

I'm still rooting for a Tiffany HOH bc I wanna see Frank's head explode. I don't care if she's terrible at this game and has annoying social ticks.

I can't believe it's only Week 3 and I'm already hate watching purely to see people I hate (which is almost everyone) on the hot seat. Usually there are at least 2-3 people I'm actively rooting for at this point in the season. Not so with BB18. Congrats Robyn Kass casting, you've outdone yourselves. 

[Umbelina]

6 hours ago, wings707 said:

1. I am catching up  this morning.  It is a tedious read so I leaped through a few twitter feeds to get the gist. 
2. For awhile last night everyone was still "afraid" of Frank.  If one of us wins, Frank will expect us to put Tiffany up. James says, I will throw it.  Frank will blow up if_____.  Frank thinks_____.   And on it went.   We have to wait 2 weeks to put Frank on the block.  Blah blah blah. 
3. Then it takes a turn in the wee house seemingly sparked by Nicole's DR session.  In tears she emerges and blasts Frank to her trusted HGs.  I am not even going to try and figure out who those are.  That will change tomorrow.  Michele will be frozen out of the talks because she has a big mouth. 
4. So if Nicole was encouraged by the DR to take a close look at Frank's nasty behavior and become fired up about it, where is the conspiracy?  It doesn't sound like Grodner is trying to keep Frank safe, at all. 
5. As far as I could see, everyone went to bed convinced that all go for the HOH and Frank has to go next week. 
6. For those of you who watched or read more extensively, is this an accurate take on things?  
7. I read Day is no longer with Z because of her showmance. pffft  I don't care.  She changes every 5 minutes (no exaggeration).  

I added numbers so I can respond to each, because, yes, I am the fool who stayed up until each one was in bed.

2.  True.  There was more of course, some mistrust among other allies due to information flow, the whole "another guy gone" and/or "a vet gone" issues beneath some of it. There is some understandable fear at Frank's reaction to being backdoored.

3.  Michele is no longer frozen out, she was cautioned to be more careful about her freeness with information, all good between the girls.  She agreed cheerfully to throw the comp to get Frank backdoored right before bed.  James gave her tips, fall, go slow, wreck a puzzle and go "Ooops!" if it was almost done, etc.  She was giddy at Frank going.  She HAS to throw because she's on Frank's team.

4.  Nicole hid her minor tears by going in the bathroom.  I don't think the DR sparked them so much as she sifted through information in there while talking and realized she's had it up to here with Frank.  "I am DONE" taking his shit, throwing comps, playing the game for him, etc.  The others suspected she had been crying because she hid her face.  Day and Michele came in and all was hashed out, she made her stand, they agreed, then other team members drifted in (Paul tagged along.)  FINALLY he went to bed and Corey, James, Nicole talked late in the bathroom about the pros and cons and who should win.  Finally decision?  ALL teams except Michele go for HOH.  Some discussion about which member of the various groups should take HOH.  Later, Corey filled Paulie in upstairs in HOH.

5.  Yes, all but Michele, who can't, because she is on Frank's team.  They are all gung ho about it.  Finally freed up to play.

6.  done, also a TON of information shared by all, Frank has final 3 deals all over the place, and has mentioned targeting most of them to someone.  "Does he not think we would talk?  Also mention that he was Day and Nicole's favorite player in his season (obviously they didn't watch the feeds!)  and they can't believe how different he is from the show version, and they completely understand why the other season people voted him out. 

7.  They patched it up.  There is still some mistrust because of Z's seeming preference for Paulie over the girls.  So much better, but still not totally tight.  Z is unaware of this, and proved herself late last night by coming down and giving Nic and Day a heads up about Tiffany messing up again by crying (again) and asking if Paulie trusts her which freaked him out.  All devised damage control and are tired of Tiff's hysterics.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Umbelina
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[Wings]

Thank you Umbelina! 

[Nashville]

4 hours ago, wings707 said:

Then it takes a turn in the wee house seemingly sparked by Nicole's DR session.  In tears she emerges and blasts Frank to her trusted HGs.  I am not even going to try and figure out who those are.  That will change tomorrow.  Michele will be frozen out of the talks because she has a big mouth. 

So if Nicole was encouraged by the DR to take a close look at Frank's nasty behavior and become fired up about it, where is the conspiracy?  It doesn't sound like Grodner is trying to keep Frank safe, at all. 

Don't know about y'all, but any time somebody comes out of the DR in tears that registers as a major PF* red flag to me.  Upon reflection I'm willing to bet:

1. TPTB were pushing Nicole - HARD - to pursue some particular course of action to rescue Frank - or, at least, blow up his opposition.
2. Whatever they were pushing was almost guaranteed to blow back on Nicole in spectacular fashion, and she knew it.

Hence Nicole's tears + the "I'm done with Frank" attitude.  Maybe Production tried intimidating Nicole, or scaring her, or whatever; in any case, it backfired on them.  Nicole is upset, no doubt, but her tears aren't from fright - they're tears of RAGE.  Production done royally pissed the girl off, no doubt by insisting Nicole basically sacrifice her game to save AG's flatulent pet chihuahua.

 

* PF = Production Fuckery

[Umbelina]

Jeez James, shut UP!

[Callaphera]

8 minutes ago, Nashville said:

Hence Nicole's tears + the "I'm done with Frank" attitude.  Maybe Production tried intimidating Nicole, or scaring her, or whatever; in any case, it backfired on them.  Nicole is upset, no doubt, but her tears aren't from fright - they're tears of RAGE.  Production done royally pissed the girl off, no doubt by insisting Nicole basically sacrifice her game to save AG's flatulent pet chihuahua.

And the bolded is what made me snort Coca Cola all over my keyboard and monitor. Thanks! LOL

[peachmangosteen]

1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

Could you ever imagine Vanessa being dumb enough to sit there and stare at her ally's board during a POV to make sure she beat her ALLY?!?

Yea, I could imagine it. But I was never one that thought Vanessa was that good.

1 hour ago, Ceeg said:

I'm still rooting for a Tiffany HOH bc I wanna see Frank's head explode. I don't care if she's terrible at this game and has annoying social ticks.

This! A Tiffany HOH would just be bananas. Sure, after about a day I'd probably be going insane watching it, but it'd be fun as hell to watch her paranoia and Frank's anger for a bit.

Edited July 7, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[Umbelina]

They discussed a Tiffany HOH last night, but decided Tiffany is much too emotional to be the HOH and Corey would take it if that team wins.  I agree with that.  She can change on a dime, and Frank can be intimidating and charming if he wants to.

[Callaphera]

If it's another stupid team based HoH and they have to decide amongst themselves as to who has to put in the last piece/grab the special item/be the last across, I really really really hope that it's Nicole's team that wins and Tiffany either books it across to grab whatever it is or sits on the ground to wait if she has to be last. Screw discussion, take it all for yourself!

I was reading that last night after a trip to the DR, Frank seemed certain that it was going to be an endurance HoH. 

[peachmangosteen]

5 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

They discussed a Tiffany HOH last night, but decided Tiffany is much too emotional to be the HOH and Corey would take it if that team wins.  I agree with that.  She can change on a dime, and Frank can be intimidating and charming if he wants to.

There is so much more of a chance of Frank 'intimidating and charming' Corey than of him doing it to Tiffany. Like 130%.

Edited July 7, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[mooses]

1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

But oh man, I was just thinking of another big difference. Could you ever imagine Vanessa being dumb enough to sit there and stare at her ally's board during a POV to make sure she beat her ALLY?!?

EDITED TO ADD: I mean, I wouldn't put it past Vanessa to have basically the same idea (she WAS super paranoid herself). She just wouldn't be dumb enough to do it so openly as to get caught.

Ha! I actually can imagine her doing it and getting caught - but then saying she's too competitive to crying to saying she heard whispers from so and so about a plan to get her out and how she's going to confront them...

Tiffany basically told Day she's just competitive and was sorry - and of course she's going to look at Day's over others if she wants to win (implying Day is the smartest). 

1 hour ago, Ceeg said:

I'm still rooting for a Tiffany HOH bc I wanna see Frank's head explode. I don't care if she's terrible at this game and has annoying social ticks.

I actually find the fact that the Rousso women can't be normal humans makes me more sympathetic to them. They're so awkward and weird (not on purpose!) and don't know how to socialize like a normal. Just watching Tiffany speak to another HG makes me cringe - no matter what they're talking about!

And the fact that Tiffany is the super underdog scapegoat means I'm rooting for her too.

[Brian Cronin]

Oh man, the scene that they aired in a recent episode where she was insistent that Frank not only listen to her opinion on something, but listen to the thought process in her mind as to how she arrived at that decision? And that if he didn't want to listen, she would know he didn't respect her or something like that? Oh man, how can you have conversations with someone like that? Frank's a total tool (and I like Tiffany much more than Frank), but he's at least a pretty typical tool. I don't know how anyone can even communicate with Tiffany. 

[Umbelina]

4 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

There is so much more of a chance of Frank 'intimidating and charming' Corey than of him doing it to Tiffany! Like 130%!

I don't think so.

Paulie found out a LOT of stuff last night about Frank, including that Frank mentioned putting him and Corey up together the 5th week.  Both he and Corey don't trust Frank anymore.  Their only concern is the girls outnumbering them, but if Frank is targeting them and throwing their names out there, what good is he to them.  They are both bummed about it, and can't believe Frank is that stupid, when they would have been loyal to him.

Also, they get how protective of Bridgette and the other one Frank is, and remembered him saying he wanted a "cakewalk" at the end.  (No competition.)

Edited July 7, 2016 by Umbelina

[peachmangosteen]

5 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Oh man, the scene that they aired in a recent episode where she was insistent that Frank not only listen to her opinion on something, but listen to the thought process in her mind as to how she arrived at that decision? And that if he didn't want to listen, she would know he didn't respect her or something like that? Oh man, how can you have conversations with someone like that?

No doubt in my mind Frank feels that same way, the only difference is he wouldn't spell it out like that. Or if he did, he'd say it was a joke afterwards.

4 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Both he and Corey don't trust Frank anymore.  Their only concern is the girls outnumbering them, but if Frank is targeting them and throwing their names out there, what good is he to them.  They are both bummed about it, and can't believe Frank is that stupid, when they would have been loyal to him.

Corey likes watching Frank shower so I believe it would be fairly easy for Frank to get him back. Tiffany is never going to like Frank.

Speaking of Corey, earlier he was talking to Bronte about how he and his male roommate spend their entire day together and talked about what they do and how close they are and whatnot. Oh, Corey!

Edited July 7, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[Callaphera]

Ooh, they drew numbers for the HoH comp. Crapshoot?

ETA: Freakazoids #1, Category Four #2, Big Sister #3, Team Unicorn #4.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Callaphera
filling in the blanks of the team number picks

[mooses]

11 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Oh man, how can you have conversations with someone like that? Frank's a total tool (and I like Tiffany much more than Frank), but he's at least a pretty typical tool. I don't know how anyone can even communicate with Tiffany. 

I'm behind on the episodes, but Tiffany just does not know how to communicate. Someone else saying that same sort of thing to him would come off completely different - Tiffany just naturally seems manic. I can imagine Paulie trying to have a conversation like that with Frank, but in his rambling "type thing" monologue speak and it wouldn't come across as crazy.

I think it's hilarious that multiple people have told Tiffany to cool her jets. She's spoken to Day, Michelle, Paulie about how the way she talks and is comes across like she's sketchy. Day told her to stop staring at people, trying to figure people out - and Tiffany said she's not trying to figure anything out, she's just spacing. Michelle was like, "Just be cool. You know, bring it up casually." But Tiffany really, truly cannot do that. It's not her personality. Her being casual is her exactly how she is being.

Again, Vanessa knew how to use it to her advantage and was able to because she was the first. Tiffany is totally not trying to use anything to her advantage, but people assume she is because she's Vanessa's sister. But she can't change who she is as a person, so she's pretty screwed.

Edited July 7, 2016 by mooses

[peachmangosteen]

Natalie told James she's a former NFL cheerleader. She said she hasn't told anyone. She might tell Bronte in jury.

Apparently they're picking numbers for tonight, so I'm thinking maybe a crapshoot comp. ETA: Like minds, @Callaphera.

And apparently they're picking one number per team, so it's a team comp again.

Edited July 7, 2016 by peachmangosteen

[Callaphera]

Team based crapshoot? Total of points each team scores, maybe? 

Because James isn't throwing this HoH, I imagine he'll be lowest score or first one out.

ETA: In other news, there's a guy on Twitter claiming that he was the one that Michelle used the pictures of on her fake boyfriend's Facebook page. He put up the original picture with her Photoshopped version. He seems amused by it. I would be fucking furious if that happened to me.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Callaphera

[Umbelina]

I keep getting Corey and Paulie mixed up.  Sorry!  The one Nicole likes is the one who said he'd take it over Tiffany because she is too unpredictable.  I'm kind of liking big dumb Corey. 

 

I can't believe these guys got up so early.  They went to bed at 4AM, or the "get Frank out" crew did at least.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Umbelina

[Nashville]

22 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Oh man, the scene that they aired in a recent episode where she was insistent that Frank not only listen to her opinion on something, but listen to the thought process in her mind as to how she arrived at that decision? And that if he didn't want to listen, she would know he didn't respect her or something like that? Oh man, how can you have conversations with someone like that? Frank's a total tool (and I like Tiffany much more than Frank), but he's at least a pretty typical tool. I don't know how anyone can even communicate with Tiffany. 

This is one of those posts I hate to agree with - but I do, absolutely.  

I mean, I started off this season really really wanting to like Tiffany - and Sweet Baby Jesus Version 1.0 knows I've tried.  When I heard Vanessa's sister was playing and she was a high school math teacher, I figured, "Hey, a math teacher.  Decent odds she's as smart as her sister.  And if she's used to dealing with classrooms full of high-schoolers, she HAS to be better at personal stress management, right?  Right?"

Wrong-O, oh great Keebler Elf In the Sky.

Sigh.

[J.D.]

15 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Team based crapshoot? Total of points each team scores, maybe? 

Because James isn't throwing this HoH, I imagine he'll be lowest score or first one out.

ETA: In other news, there's a guy on Twitter claiming that he was the one that Michelle used the pictures of on her fake boyfriend's Facebook page. He put up the original picture with her Photoshopped version. He seems amused by it. I would be fucking furious if that happened to me.

He probably photoshopped it himself.

[Umbelina]

I'm flashing back to 11AM, and Nicole is now feeling bad for Frank?  She says she's not changing her mind, but she is feeling bad about blindsiding him.

Shut up Nicole, you barely got these guys on your side about booting him.  Sometimes she drives me nuts.

[Ceeg]

HOH crapshoot is the only way Frank would have been able to win this HOH /conspiracy theorist

[Wings]

39 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Ooh, they drew numbers for the HoH comp. Crapshoot?

ETA: Freakazoids #1, Category Four #2, Big Sister #3, Team Unicorn #4.

I don't know what this means.  Does anyone?  

 

23 minutes ago, Nashville said:

I mean, I started off this season really really wanting to like Tiffany

Same here.  She queered (no pun intended) the deal for me.  

[Umbelina]

6 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I don't know what this means.  Does anyone?  

 

Same here.  She queered (no pun intended) the deal for me.  

From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_18_(U.S.)

Later on, the HouseGuests went outside to form their teams.

Frank, Michelle, Paulie, and Bridgette formed team Category 4.

Da'Vonne, Paul, Zakiyah, and Jozea formed team Big Sister.

James, Natalie, Victor, and Bronte formed team Unicorn.

Nicole, Corey, Tiffany, and Glenn formed team Freakazoids.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Umbelina
added link