Bruinsfan June 16, 2017 Share June 16, 2017 I've been seeing predictions that its final take will fall short of Man of Steel or Suicide Squad, but isn't it outpacing the former and only behind the latter because of a huge first weekend gross? And it's got MUCH better reviews and word of mouth than either—its critic and audience numbers at Rotten Tomatoes are comparable to the first Avengers movie's. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3380827
Dejana June 18, 2017 Author Share June 18, 2017 (edited) On 6/16/2017 at 6:29 PM, Bruinsfan said: I've been seeing predictions that its final take will fall short of Man of Steel or Suicide Squad, but isn't it outpacing the former and only behind the latter because of a huge first weekend gross? And it's got MUCH better reviews and word of mouth than either—its critic and audience numbers at Rotten Tomatoes are comparable to the first Avengers movie's. I think people just figured that even if Wonder Woman was better received than other recent DC films, and it got a good multiplier for a blockbuster superhero movie these days—2.7 or 2.8 times the opening weekend—that would still have it topping out at $280M or so. Suicide Squad's multiplier was a 2.43, Batman v Superman a truly abysmal 1.99. Wonder Woman however is showing itself to have a very special run and the normal rules for the genre don't apply. Here's the list of comic book adaptations at the box office; non-Friday openings skew the OW-to-final gross ratio but it gives a sense of which movies played exceptionally well vs. fine vs. poorly, for the genre. June 16–18, 2017 Numbers: 1 (N) Cars 3 $53,547,000 | 4,256 Theaters | $12,582 Avg. | $175M Budget | $53,547,000 2 (1) Wonder Woman $40,775,000 | 4,018 Theaters | $10,148 Avg. | $149M Budget | $274,601,730 3 (N) All Eyez on Me $27,050,000 | 2,471 Theaters | $10,947 Avg. | $40M Budget | $27,050,000 4 (2) The Mummy $13,916,010 | 4,034 Theaters | $3,450 Avg. | $125M Budget | $56,526,710 5 (N) 47 Meters Down $11,500,000 | 2,270 Theaters | $5,066 Avg. | $11,500,000 6 (4) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales $8,458,000 | 2,759 Theaters | $3,066 Avg. | $230M Budget | $150,066,114 7 (N) Rough Night $8,040,000 | 3,162 Theaters | $2,543 Avg. | $20M Budget | $8,040,000 8 (3) Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie $7,350,000 | 2,968 Theaters | $2,476 Avg. | $38M Budget | $57,963,660 9 (5) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $4,982,000 | 1,813 Theaters | $2,748 Avg. | $200M Budget | $374,853,015 10 (6) It Comes At Night $2,616,600 | 2,450 Theaters | $1,068 Avg. | $2.4M Budget | $11,139,764 11 (8) Megan Leavey $2,300,828 | 1,832 Theaters | $1,256 Avg. | $8,147,594 12 (7) Baywatch $1,575,000 | 1,307 Theaters | $1,205 Avg. | $69M Budget | $55,122,500 13 (N) The Book of Henry $1,407,405 | 579 Theaters | $2,431 Avg. | $10M Budget | $1,407,405 14 (17) Paris Can Wait $743,751 | 447 Theaters | $1,664 Avg. | $3,225,613 15 (24) Beatriz At Dinner $715,047 | 77 Theaters | $9,286 Avg. | $921,075 International Box Office: PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES: $500M Overseas | $650.1M Global TotalWONDER WOMAN: $297.2M Overseas | $571.8M Global TotalTHE MUMMY: $239.1M Overseas | $295.6M Global TotalALIEN: COVENANT: $142.3M | $214.9M Global TotalBAYWATCH: $64.4M Overseas | $119.57M Global TotalCARS 3: $21.3M Overseas | $74.8M Global TotalDESPICABLE ME 3: $10M Overseas & Global Total Edited June 25, 2017 by Dejana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384497
starri June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, Dejana said: 1 (N) Cars 3 $53,547,000 | 4,256 Theaters | $12,582 Avg. | $175M Budget | $53,547,000 That seems really low for A)Pixar in general and B) something that's so popular with little-little kids. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384539
GHScorpiosRule June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 Boo. I was hoping she'd make it three weeks in a row! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384550
Silver Raven June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, starri said: That seems really low for A)Pixar in general and B) something that's so popular with little-little kids. I saw a Kids React to the trailer and the kids said they don't know anything about the Cars movies. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384551
starri June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 I just remember reading somewhere that Cars was Pixar's most popular franchise with kids 5 or under. I know that the under-5 set from the original movie are teenagers now (phew), but Disney exists because there are always new kids to buy backpacks and lunch boxes. It's just odd. Finding Dory opened at almost 3 times that. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384562
Spartan Girl June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said: Boo. I was hoping she'd make it three weeks in a row! C'mon, we saw her THROW A CAR! What the hell, box office?! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384574
GHScorpiosRule June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Spartan Girl said: C'mon, we saw her THROW A CAR! What the hell, box office?! I know, right? ?? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384592
Dejana June 18, 2017 Author Share June 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, starri said: That seems really low for A)Pixar in general and B) something that's so popular with little-little kids. The Cars franchise has always been one of the more poorly regarded Pixar properties in terms of critical appeal (here's the Rotten Tomatoes list) and the last movie before now came out in 2011, literally a lifetime ago for the kindergarten audience. I don't think there's a TV show that kept it fresh with younger fans (though that can cut both ways and make the movie less special). Many people who did like the first one may have felt burned by the second (39% RT score!) and kids born this decade who did care, plus their parents, weren't enough to boost it to typical Pixar numbers. Edited June 18, 2017 by Dejana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384669
starri June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 The Onion proved that the movie got raves from the only critics who matter. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384692
AshleyN June 18, 2017 Share June 18, 2017 Can't remember where, but I read somewhere before that Disney's biggest motivation to keep making Cars movies is to keep the brand relevant for merchandising purposes, where it's a huge moneymaker, moreso than basically any other Pixar property aside from Toy Story. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3384889
Trini June 19, 2017 Share June 19, 2017 Cars is also one of the few Disney properties that they can use to market to boys; I think that's another reason they've kept it around. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385098
Dejana June 19, 2017 Author Share June 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, AshleyN said: Can't remember where, but I read somewhere before that Disney's biggest motivation to keep making Cars movies is to keep the brand relevant for merchandising purposes, where it's a huge moneymaker, moreso than basically any other Pixar property aside from Toy Story. Pretty much. Here's a CNBC article from last year speculating upon Moana's toy sales prospects that also discusses the success of Cars in that area: Quote However, a film's box office success may not always translate into toy sales. Some movies translate into better toys than others, said Jim Silver, CEO of TTPM, an online toy review site, told CNBC. Silver points to Pixar's "Finding Nemo" as a high-grossing box office film that did not deliver the same kind of sales when it came to toys. "Nemo" raked in just under $1 billion in 2003. By comparison, "Cars," which earned just over $462 million worldwide in 2006, had much greater success at retail. Silver estimates that "Cars" toys sales were 25-times greater than the "Finding Nemo" toy line, despite the box office gap, and more than 50-times greater in the first two years after its release. "'Cars' is a perfect play pattern," Silver said, noting that kids were able to mimic the events of the film easily with the raceable Matchbox cars sold at retail. "Whereas 'Finding Nemo,' the whole thing is underwater and how do you play with it? So you have to look at every movie and see how well it plays out." Similar issues arose with films like "Ratatouille," "A Bugs Life" and "Monsters University," according to Silver. The films did well at the box office, but not quite as well at retail. Cars sold at last a billion dollars in merchandise in 2014 as of August that year (Business Insider). The most recent total sales revenue figure available seems to be $10 billion from 2011 but it's obviously much higher now, especially with an entire themed area at one of the Disney parks. So, I suspect we're going to see Cars 4 (C4RS?) or a TV show in not too many years to provide the enterprise with fresh content and consumers. Edited June 19, 2017 by Dejana 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385124
thuganomics85 June 19, 2017 Share June 19, 2017 Figured Cars 3 would win the week, but I'm still glad Wonder Woman only took a 30% or so drop. It will be tough, but I'm all for it outgrossing Bats v. Sup and Suicide Squad at the domestic box office. Farther down the list, I'm kind of surprised how badly Rough Night did. It wasn't ever going to win the weekend, but I figured a raunchy, female-lead comedy with Scarlett Johansson and Kate Mckinnon would pull better numbers then that. It even got beat by 47 Meters Down a.k.a. The Shallows with Mandy Moore and Claire Holt instead of Blake Lively (and three sharks, instead of just one!) Really, depending on 47 Meters Down budget, it might make a profit. Maybe we'll get a yearly "shark(s) vs. young, attractive actress(es)" every year! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385232
AimingforYoko June 19, 2017 Share June 19, 2017 Kind of surprised how well All Eyez on Me did, with the best thing anyone can seem to say about it is, "Demetrius Shipp sure looks like Tupac." 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385266
AshleyN June 19, 2017 Share June 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, AimingforYoko said: Kind of surprised how well All Eyez on Me did, with the best thing anyone can seem to say about it is, "Demetrius Shipp sure looks like Tupac." Makes me wonder how well a Tupac biopic with even average reviews could have done (let alone if they'd managed to make one with a Straight Outta Compton-type reception). 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385388
kiddo82 June 19, 2017 Share June 19, 2017 To the point about the success of the Cars merchandising I give you the honest trailer for Cars/Cars 2. As far as Cars 3's box office numbers, yes, there will always be five year olds to take to see it but I wonder if it's the type of franchise that kids outgrow so you can't necessarily count on repeat business. People will come back to Toy Story or Finding Nemo even as the original audience ages because (1) those movies are generally good and (2) there's genuine humor and themes in them that can appeal to everyone. The Cars movies are fairly juvenile (which is fine, they are for children after all) but you can't expect adults or young people who have aged out of the demographic to flock they way they would to a Toy Story. On that note, where's my Incredibles sequel, damnit? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385481
Trini June 19, 2017 Share June 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, kiddo82 said: On that note, where's my Incredibles sequel, damnit? 'am sayin'! We should be up to Incredibles 3 by now! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385504
starri June 19, 2017 Share June 19, 2017 Incredibles 2 is set for next summer. I consider Cars 3 a purification so we are ready to receive it. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385520
Dejana June 19, 2017 Author Share June 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, thuganomics85 said: Figured Cars 3 would win the week, but I'm still glad Wonder Woman only took a 30% or so drop. It will be tough, but I'm all for it outgrossing Bats v. Sup and Suicide Squad at the domestic box office. Farther down the list, I'm kind of surprised how badly Rough Night did. It wasn't ever going to win the weekend, but I figured a raunchy, female-lead comedy with Scarlett Johansson and Kate Mckinnon would pull better numbers then that. It even got beat by 47 Meters Down a.k.a. The Shallows with Mandy Moore and Claire Holt instead of Blake Lively (and three sharks, instead of just one!) Really, depending on 47 Meters Down budget, it might make a profit. Maybe we'll get a yearly "shark(s) vs. young, attractive actress(es)" every year! IDK, there's raunchy antics but maybe a dead stripper is a bridge too far for people, at least for a comedy. Very Bad Things had an opening weekend in the same range nearly 20 years ago. I'm not really surprised Rough Night disappointed; it's not a good year for ScarJo at the box office. OTOH, the success of 47 Meters Down is even more remarkable considering that it almost didn't get a theatrical release: Quote The strangest thing happened last summer when Entertainment Studios’ Freestyle Media acquired Johannes Roberts‘ shark thriller 47 Meters Down just weeks before Dimension Films was to release on DVD and VOD platforms. The move was unheard of and could only be explained by the booming success of Jaume Collet-Serra‘s The Shallows just a month earlier, which went on to make $55M at the domestic box office. What made the move even more bizarre was that press copies of the DVD release had already been sent out and the film had leaked all over the Internet. In fact, I had posted the first ever online review (when it was still titled In the Deep) exclaiming the film was “full of bite, and is vicious enough for the hardcore horror audience, while also providing an immense amount of thrills for everyone else.” After nearly a year on the shelf, Entertainment Studios released 47 Meters Down on the very same weekend as the Blake Lively thriller The Shallows hoping for the same success. While it’s not on par with Sony’s big budget shark film, the gamble has paid off for 47 Meter Down. Early estimates peg the independent production’s opening weekend in the $11-12M range. While I wasn’t able to get a breakdown on the actual marketing spends, I am being told my insiders that this is nearly triple what the film was initially tracking! While big studio films are easier to break down financially, it’s very difficult with an indie production. My educated guess is that they spent somewhere between $5-12M on marketing, which would mean that the film would need to make somewhere between $10M and $20M to break even. 1 hour ago, AimingforYoko said: Kind of surprised how well All Eyez on Me did, with the best thing anyone can seem to say about it is, "Demetrius Shipp sure looks like Tupac." Friday was Tupac's birthday and the box office trailed off considerably for Saturday and Sunday. Edited June 19, 2017 by Dejana 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3385639
Dejana June 25, 2017 Author Share June 25, 2017 (edited) Wonder Woman passes the triple century mark and moves up the ranks in the DC Extended Universe. The latest Transformers continues the franchise's comedown from its box office glory days: back in 2009, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen made $62 million in its first day alone! June 23–25, 2017 Final Numbers: 1 (N) Transformers: The Last Knight $44,680,073 | 4,069 Theaters | $10,981 Avg. | $217M Budget | $68,475,562 2 (2) Wonder Woman $24,906,310 | 3,933 Theaters | $6,333 Avg. | $149M Budget | $318,111,468 3 (1) Cars 3 $24,074,497 | 4,256 Theaters | $5,657 Avg. | $175M Budget | $98,782,390 4 (5) 47 Meters Down $7,088,262 | 2,471 Theaters | $2,869 Avg. | $5M Budget | $23,914,194 5 (4) The Mummy $6,060,495 | 2,980 Theaters | $2,034 Avg. | $125M Budget | $68,744,165 6 (3) All Eyez on Me $5,806,975 | 2,471 Theaters | $2,350 Avg. | $40M Budget | $38,599,294 7 (6) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales $5,396,243 | 2,453 Theaters | $2,200 Avg. | $230M Budget | $160,161,569 8 (7) Rough Night $4,703,261 | 3,162 Theaters | $1,487 Avg. | $20M Budget | $16,638,208 9 (8) Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie $4,284,115 | 2,328 Theaters | $1,840 Avg. | $38M Budget | $65,747,291 10 (9) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $3,023,042 | 1,468 Theaters | $2,059 Avg. | $200M Budget | $380,236,369 Beatriz At Dinner $1,759,977 | 491 Theaters | $3,584 Avg. | $2,953,757Tubelight $930,058 | 338 Theaters | $2,752 Avg. | $16M Dollars | $930,058 The Big Sick $421,577 | 5 Theaters | $84,315 Avg. | $421,577 The Beguiled $229,292 | 4 Theaters | $57,323 Avg. | $10M Budget | $229,292 The Bad Batch $89,111 | 30 Theaters | $2,970 Avg. | $89,111 International Box Office: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST: $753.2M Overseas Total | $1.256B Global TotalGUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2: $471M Overseas Total | $851.2M Global TotalPIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES: $517.8M Overseas Total | $677.8M Global TotalWONDER WOMAN: $334.5M Overseas Total | $652.8M Global Total THE MUMMY: $273.6M Overseas Total | $342.1M Global TotalTRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT: $196.2M Overseas | $265.3M Global TotalCARS 3: $41.4M Overseas Total | $141.3M Global TotalDESPICABLE ME 3: $18.9M Overseas & Global Total Edited July 2, 2017 by Dejana updated with final weekend numbers Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3403790
Ohwell June 25, 2017 Share June 25, 2017 The Beguiled did not need a remake, so I hope it tanks. Watch the original with Clint Eastwood and Geraldine Page. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3404028
xaxat June 25, 2017 Share June 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Dejana said: The latest Transformers continues the franchise's comedown from its box office glory days: back in 2009, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen made $62 million in its first day alone! June 23–25, 2017 Estimates: 1 (N) Transformers: The Last Knight $45,300,000 | 4,069 Theaters | $11,133 Avg. | $217M Budget | $69,095,489International Box Office:TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT: $196.2M Overseas | $265.3M Global Total But Fallen only made twenty million overseas it's opening week. There's a difference in release dates etc. But, much like every successful blockbuster franchise right now, I think global numbers determine the success of a movie. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3404064
AshleyN June 25, 2017 Share June 25, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dejana said: The Big Sick $435,000 | 5 Theaters | $87,000 Avg. | $435,000The Beguiled (2017) $240,545 | 4 Theaters | $60,136 Avg. | $10M Budget | $240,545 Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the two biggest per-theatre averages of the year, no? Fantastic start for both. I think The Beguiled will probably have a somewhat limited audience when it expands, but the The Big Sick has a lot of buzz right now and feels like it could really break out. Edited June 25, 2017 by AshleyN 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3404381
Ohwell June 25, 2017 Share June 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, AshleyN said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the two biggest per-theatre averages of the year, no? Fantastic for both. I think The Beguiled will probably have a somewhat limited audience when it expands, but the The Big Sick has a lot of buzz right now and feels like it could really break out. I think you're right. When I posted about The Beguiled, I didn't notice the per-theater average and the limited number of theaters. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3404392
AimingforYoko June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, AshleyN said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the two biggest per-theatre averages of the year, no? Fantastic start for both. I think The Beguiled will probably have a somewhat limited audience when it expands, but the The Big Sick has a lot of buzz right now and feels like it could really break out. I think The Big Sick will do about as well as Gifted. 5 hours ago, Dejana said: Wonder Woman passes the triple century mark and moves up the ranks in the DC Extended Universe. I posted in the WW thread that it will be the top grossing movie in the DCEU by the end of the week. It's really holding up well. That's the difference between a good tentpole movie and a bad one. The good ones last. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3404429
starri June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 2 hours ago, AimingforYoko said: I posted in the WW thread that it will be the top grossing movie in the DCEU by the end of the week. It's really holding up well. That's the difference between a good tentpole movie and a bad one. The good ones last. It turns out when you have people who UNDERSTAND THE CHARACTER, you get a movie that people want to see again and again and again. I'm so happy for Patty Jenkins. I hope she feels like the DCEU's own Diana at this point, because she definitely is. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3404808
Dejana June 26, 2017 Author Share June 26, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, xaxat said: But Fallen only made twenty million overseas it's opening week. There's a difference in release dates etc. But, much like every successful blockbuster franchise right now, I think global numbers determine the success of a movie. Like many blockbusters, Revenge of the Fallen came out in a few overseas countries before the US, but this time around the movie debuted more simultaneously with the domestic date. Comparisons of international opening weekends are more difficult because the rollout patterns aren't as consistent. The Despicable Me movies have become overseas monsters but the current one is just under $19M so far because it's simply not out in that many countries yet. Overseas money helps (though this latest one isn't making a billion this time around), but a studio can't like a franchise declining here from $400M or even $300M to $160M (if that's where The Last Knight winds up). I doubt the Bumblebee spinoff is getting canceled but if the other ones end up in the extended universe graveyard along with all those Power Rangers and King Arthur sequels, I wouldn't be surprised. 4 hours ago, AshleyN said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the two biggest per-theatre averages of the year, no? Fantastic start for both. I think The Beguiled will probably have a somewhat limited audience when it expands, but the The Big Sick has a lot of buzz right now and feels like it could really break out. Yes (from Deadline): Quote Until now, Disney’s Beauty And the Beast held the mantra for year’s best opening PTA at $41,508 after opening in well over four thousand locations in March. On the Specialty side, Oscilloscope’s popular feline doc Kedi opened in one theater back in February, grossing over $40K its opening weekend. 4 hours ago, AimingforYoko said: I think The Big Sick will do about as well as Gifted. I posted in the WW thread that it will be the top grossing movie in the DCEU by the end of the week. It's really holding up well. That's the difference between a good tentpole movie and a bad one. The good ones last. I know, how many DC adaptations in various eras were leggy box office smashes, but suddenly because critics weren't here for the DECU films (before now), it was this Marvel/Disney conspiracy to bribe Rotten Tomatoes and unduly influence audiences to stay away! So glad WW is shutting down that nonsense. Edited June 26, 2017 by Dejana 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3405075
methodwriter85 June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dejana said: I posted in the WW thread that it will be the top grossing movie in the DCEU by the end of the week. It's really holding up well. That's the difference between a good tentpole movie and a bad one. The good ones last. The Suicide Squad situation is frustrating to me, because I can clearly see a good movie in there. It was there, and then they had to have Cara Delevigne gyrating while relegating the Joker to about 15 minutes of screentime. I really hope they can fix what was wrong with the first movie in the sequel. It does have the right cast (well, maybe not Cara)- it just needed the right story and the right villain. Batman V. Superman was just utter trash, though. I have never been so close to walking out of a movie as I was there. The last big superhero movie we're expecting this summer is Spiderman. I can't think of anything else coming out in July or August that will come close to what we're expecting for that. Edited June 26, 2017 by methodwriter85 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3405238
Silver Raven June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 13 hours ago, methodwriter85 said: The last big superhero movie we're expecting this summer is Spiderman. I can't think of anything else coming out in July or August that will come close to what we're expecting for that. War For the Planet of the Apes? Valerian? That's the one I'm really looking forwards to. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3406725
GHScorpiosRule June 26, 2017 Share June 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Silver Raven said: War For the Planet of the Apes? Valerian? That's the one I'm really looking forwards to. War For the Planet of the Apes is the one I'm looking forward to! I just rewatched Rise of the Planet of the Apes and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes this weekend. I ❤️?❤️?❤️❤️??❤️Caesar SO MUCH!!!!! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3406748
Dejana June 27, 2017 Author Share June 27, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, methodwriter85 said: The Suicide Squad situation is frustrating to me, because I can clearly see a good movie in there. It was there, and then they had to have Cara Delevigne gyrating while relegating the Joker to about 15 minutes of screentime. I really hope they can fix what was wrong with the first movie in the sequel. It does have the right cast (well, maybe not Cara)- it just needed the right story and the right villain. Batman V. Superman was just utter trash, though. I have never been so close to walking out of a movie as I was there. The last big superhero movie we're expecting this summer is Spiderman. I can't think of anything else coming out in July or August that will come close to what we're expecting for that. I'm not sure what happened but your quote was attributed to me by mistake. By the time Suicide Squad 2 comes around, I suspect the Cara Delevingne movie star push will have cooled so they probably won't be as desperate to showcase her so much. Well, unless Valerian breaks out next month, which seems like a long shot but stranger things have happened. She and Dane DeHaan could both really use a hit. Valerian is out the same weekend as Dunkirk and Girls Trip, so...it's going for a different audience than either one, and that's something, I guess. Edited June 27, 2017 by Dejana 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3407949
methodwriter85 June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, Dejana said: I'm not sure what happened but your quote was attributed to me by mistake. By the time Suicide Squad 2 comes around, I suspect the Cara Delevingne movie star push will have cooled so they probably won't be as desperate to showcase her so much. Well, unless Valerian breaks out next month, which seems like a long shot but stranger things have happened. She and Dane DeHaan could both really use a hit. Valerian is out the same weekend at Dunkirk and Girls Trip, so...it's going for a different audience than either one, and that's something, I guess. See, Cara was absolutely fine to me as Margo in Paper Towns. She was just horribly miscast as in Suicide Squad. People seem like they've definitely cooled on her. And her impulsive crewcut hairstyle probably isn't going to be the best for her career, unless she wants to play some cool punk characters or something. Yes, there are wigs but I still think they're going to be less enthusiasm about casting her. On the other hand, it probably does open up the doors for her to play some quirky, out-there characters. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3408057
Silver Raven June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, methodwriter85 said: See, Cara was absolutely fine to me as Margo in Paper Towns. She was just horribly miscast as in Suicide Squad. People seem like they've definitely cooled on her. And her impulsive crewcut hairstyle probably isn't going to be the best for her career, unless she wants to play some cool punk characters or something. Yes, there are wigs but I still think they're going to be less enthusiasm about casting her. On the other hand, it probably does open up the doors for her to play some quirky, out-there characters. She's starring in the megabucks production of Valerian this summer, as well as the historical fiction Tulip Fever with Alicia Vikander, and also Dane De Haan. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3408105
greenbean June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 So that's two films with Dane. I wonder why. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3410014
methodwriter85 June 27, 2017 Share June 27, 2017 They have a complimentary look to each other, I'm guessing. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3410704
Dejana July 2, 2017 Author Share July 2, 2017 (edited) June 30 – July 2, 2017 Final Numbers: 1 (N) Despicable Me 3 $72,434,025 | 4,529 Theaters | $15,993 Avg. | $80M Budget | $72,434,025 2 (N) Baby Driver $20,553,320 | 3,226 Theaters | $6,371 Avg. | $34M Budget | $29,582,425 3 (1) Transformers: The Last Knight $16,880,555 | 4,132 Theaters | $4,085 Avg. | $217M Budget | $101,983,906 4 (2) Wonder Woman $15,706,011 | 3,404 Theaters | $4,614 Avg. | $149M Budget | $346,235,486 5 (3) Cars 3 $9,689,279 | 3,576 Theaters | $2,710 Avg. | $175M Budget | $120,879,378 6 (N) The House $8,724,795 | 3,134 Theaters | $2,784 Avg. | $40M Budget | $8,724,795 7 (4) 47 Meters Down $4,517,143 | 2,250 Theaters | $2,008 Avg. | $5M Budget | $32,426,597 8 (22) The Beguiled $3,163,472 | 674 Theaters | $4,694 Avg. | $10M Budget | $3,482,920 9 (5) The Mummy $3,013,395 | 1,760 Theaters | $1,712 Avg. | $125M Budget | $74,730,235 10 (7) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales $2,525,546 | 1,674 Theaters | $1,509 Avg. | $230M Budget | $165,581,133 11 (6) All Eyez on Me $1,824,631 | 1,258 Theaters | $1,450 Avg. | $40M Budget | $42,677,094 12 (18) The Big Sick $1,651,958 | 71 Theaters | $23,267 Avg. | $2,208,448 13 (10) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $1,539,519 | 966 Theaters | $1,594 Avg. | $200M Budget | $383,383,494 14 (8) Rough Night $1,275,124 | 1,657 Theaters | $770 Avg. | $20M Budget | $20,340,771 15 (9) Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie $1,114,612 | 1,452 Theaters | $768 Avg. | $38M Budget | $69,260,405 Beatriz At Dinner $1,057,021 | 683 Theaters | $1,548 Avg. | $4,711,504The Little Hours $61,560 | 2 Theaters | $30,780 Avg. | $61,560 Marie Curie: The Courage of Knowledge $18,600 | 6 Theaters | $3,100 Avg. | $18,600 International Box Office: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST: $756M Overseas Total | $1.259B Global TotalPIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES: $543.2M Overseas Total | $708.7M Global TotalWONDER WOMAN: $361.8M Overseas Total | $708M Global Total TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT: $327.8M Overseas Total | $429.9M Global TotalTHE MUMMY: $295.4M Overseas Total | $369.9M Global Total DESPICABLE ME 3: $116.9M Overseas Total | $192.3M Global TtotalCARS 3: $53.1M Overseas Total | $173.8M Global TotalBAYWATCH: $94M Overseas Total | $151.2M Global Total The Despicable Me franchise seems to have cooled somewhat from earlier heights, but it will still be a huge success for Illumination/Universal. The House, OTOH, is definitely a flop on Will Ferrell's resume. Baby Driver will be Edgar Wright's biggest hit as a director within the week, and I guess Hollywood execs will be rushing to cast Ansel Elgort in everything now. Edited July 9, 2017 by Dejana Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3424146
Ohwell July 2, 2017 Share July 2, 2017 The House. Ouch! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3424404
AimingforYoko July 2, 2017 Share July 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Dejana said: 1 (N) Despicable Me 3 $75,410,275 | 4,529 Theaters | $16,651 Avg. | $80M Budget | $75,410,275 And the bolded number is why this franchise may hit double digits. Has the third installment's budget of any recent big studio picture been that low? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3424457
twoods July 2, 2017 Share July 2, 2017 That budget is pretty low for a movie that is going to more than double it in the next few weeks. The House, though- ouch. I'm surprised that it didn't make more money since there aren't many comedies out right now. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3424620
methodwriter85 July 2, 2017 Share July 2, 2017 I really liked Baby Driver, so I'm happy they're already close to recouping their production budget. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3424663
Dejana July 9, 2017 Author Share July 9, 2017 (edited) July 7–9, 2017 Final Numbers: 1 (N) Spider-Man: Homecoming $117,027,503 | 4,348 Theaters | $26,915 Avg. | $175M Budget | $117,027,503 2 (1) Despicable Me 3 $33,580,425 | 4,535 Theaters | $7,405 Avg. | $80M Budget | $148,771,085 3 (2) Baby Driver $13,002,721 | 3,226 Theaters | $4,031 Avg. $34M Budget | $57,135,793 4 (4) Wonder Woman $9,822,105 | 3,091 Theaters | $3,178 Avg. | $149M Budget | $368,473,296 5 (3) Transformers: The Last Knight $6,376,578 | 3,241 Theaters | $1,967 Avg. | $217M Budget | $118,993,338 6 (5) Cars 3 $5,382,248 | 2,702 Theaters | $1,992 Avg. | $175M Budget | $133,479,660 7 (6) The House $4,778,272 | 3,134 Theaters | $1,525 Avg. | $40M Budget | $18,593,950 8 (12) The Big Sick $3,576,646 | 326 Theaters | $10,971 Avg. | $6,846,969 9 (7) 47 Meters Down $2,714,172 | 1,740 Theaters | $1,560 Avg. | $5M Budget | $38,407,820 10 (8) The Beguiled $2,062,675 | 941 Theaters | $2,192 Avg. | $10M Budget | $7,412,009 11 (10) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales $1,187,170 | 1,039 Theaters | $1,143 Avg. | $230M Budget | $168,812,467 12 (9) The Mummy $1,185,925 | 1,045 Theaters | $1,135 Avg. | $125M Budget | $77,996,195 13 (13) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $860,020 | 660 Theaters | $1,303 Avg. | $200M Budget | $385,560,026 14( 11) All Eyez on Me $606,390 | 599 Theaters | $1,012 Avg. | $40M Budget | $44,316,429 15 (17) The Hero $594,066 | 447 Theaters | $1,329 Avg. | $2,753,061 Beatriz At Dinner $520,142 | 417 Theaters | $1,247 Avg. | $5,981,481A Ghost Story $104,030 | 4 Theaters | $26,008 Avg. | $104,030Our Time Will Come $50,619 | 18 Theaters | $2,812 Avg. | $50,619Lost in Paris $27,162 | 8 Theaters | $3,395 Avg. | $44,828 International Box Office: WONDER WOMAN: $377M Overseas Total | $745.7M Global TotalPIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES: $565.2M Overseas Total | $734M Global TotalTRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT: $375.7M Overseas Total | $494.6M Global Total DESPICABLE ME 3: $298.4M Overseas Total | $447.6M Global TotalTHE MUMMY: $306.6M Overseas Total | $384.5M Global TotalSPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING: $140M Overseas Total | $257M Global TotalBAYWATCH: $101.8M Overseas Total | $159.4M Global Total Edited July 11, 2017 by Dejana updated with final weekend numbers Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3441717
kiddo82 July 9, 2017 Share July 9, 2017 (edited) Wow. Spider-Man's domestic tally has already almost matched Transformers. Edited July 9, 2017 by kiddo82 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3441785
AimingforYoko July 9, 2017 Share July 9, 2017 Look at the latest Pirates entry. Normally a $170m take against a $230m budget means this would definitely be the last installment. But it's taken in over $560m overseas. The WW will probably end up north of $800m. As some other people should've learned this weekend, the US is not the only game in town anymore. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3441847
dusang July 10, 2017 Share July 10, 2017 (edited) How does Spiderman compare with other MCU releases? Nevermind, I can use Google too. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?view=main&id=avengers.htm&p=.htm For opening weekend it looks like it beat every other first solo film. Edited July 10, 2017 by dusang 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3444219
methodwriter85 July 10, 2017 Share July 10, 2017 Pretty good hold for Baby Driver! It's hit that budget+half mark already. It'll probably end up at around the high 60's/low 70's at the end. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3445568
Dejana July 11, 2017 Author Share July 11, 2017 3 hours ago, methodwriter85 said: Pretty good hold for Baby Driver! It's hit that budget+half mark already. It'll probably end up at around the high 60's/low 70's at the end. I wondered if Baby Driver would be more frontloaded given that Wright has a small but passionate fanbase, and a shiny new Spider-Man as action competition, though BD skews older. With the boost of summer weekdays, I don't think 80-90+ million is an impossible target for it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3446399
AshleyN July 11, 2017 Share July 11, 2017 Really happy to see Baby Driver doing well. The movie was a total blast and it's nice to see Edgar Wright finally achieve some mainstream success after mostly being an Internet favourite up until now. Also, with the movie industry becoming increasingly fractured between giant studio tentpoles and small indie movies, this kind of mid-budget original filmmaking is really what I'd like to see more of. On another note, I believe Wonder Woman has now passed where Guardians 2 was at this point in its run, meaning that unless Spiderman also has historically amazing legs, it will most likely end up the top grossing film of the summer. It also means that unless one of the non-Star Wars fall/winter films really blows up*, there's a good chance that the top-3 movies of the year will all be female-led. *Justice League might be able to do it if it somehow ends up being decent, which is kind of amusing because that film's numbers will probably benefit from Wonder Woman's success and people wanting to see more of the character. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3447651
kiddo82 July 13, 2017 Share July 13, 2017 On July 11, 2017 at 11:47 AM, AshleyN said: Really happy to see Baby Driver doing well. The movie was a total blast and it's nice to see Edgar Wright finally achieve some mainstream success after mostly being an Internet favourite up until now. Also, with the movie industry becoming increasingly fractured between giant studio tentpoles and small indie movies, this kind of mid-budget original filmmaking is really what I'd like to see more of. Agree about the mid budget films. I'm not as high on Baby Driver as a lot of people seem to be but if its success becomes a catalyst for studios to produce more films in the 30-50 million range then rock on. It is this type of tier that seems to be lacking in the industry today. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3452305
Dejana July 16, 2017 Author Share July 16, 2017 July 14–16, 2017 Estimates: 1 (N) War for the Planet of the Apes $56,500,000 | 4,022 Theaters | $14,048 Avg. | $150M Budget | $56,500,000 2 (1) Spider-Man: Homecoming $45,200,000 | 4,348 Theaters | $10,396 Avg. | $175M Budget | $208,270,314 3 (2) Despicable Me 3 $18,947,840 | 4,155 Theaters | $4,560 Avg. | $80M Budget | $187,989,990 4 (3) Baby Driver $8,750,000 | 3,043 Theaters | $2,875 Avg. | $34M Budget | $73,151,857 5 (8) The Big Sick $7,600,000 | 2,597 Theaters | $2,926 Avg. | $16,036,824 6 (4) Wonder Woman $6,885,000 | 2,744 Theaters | $2,509 Avg. | $149M Budget | $380,686,078 7 (N) Wish Upon $5,586,748 | 2,250 Theaters | $2,483 Avg. | $12M Budget | $5,586,748 8 (6) Cars 3 $3,167,000 | 2,049 Theaters | $1,546 Avg. | $175M Budget | $140,031,500[/b] 9 (5) Transformers: The Last Knight $2,780,000 | 2,323 Theaters | $1,197 Avg. | $217M Budget | $124,888,619 10 (7) The House $1,795,000 | 1,633 Theaters | $1,099 Avg. | $40M Budget | $23,129,558 11 (9) 47 Meters Down $1,210,000 | 1,032 Theaters | $1,172 Avg. | $5M Budget | $41,207,107 12 (10) The Beguiled $934,645 | 726 Theaters | $1,287 Avg. | $10M Budget | $9,407,214 13 (13) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 $512,000 | 399 Theaters | $1,283 Avg. | $200M Budget | $386,574,390 14 (11) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales $494,000 | 448 Theaters | $1,103 Avg. | $230M Budget | $170,044,886 15 (15) The Hero $343,197 | 315 Theaters | $1,090 Avg. | $3,401,307[/b] Lady Macbeth $68,813 | 5 Theaters | $13,763 Avg. | $68,813 Endless Poetry $28,000 | 2 Theaters | $14,000 Avg. | $28,000 Blind $11,700 | 14 Theaters | $836 Avg. | $11,700False Confessions $7,670 | 2 Theaters | $3,835 Avg. | $7,670 International Box Office: PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES: $581.5M Overseas Total | $751.5M Global TotalDESPICABLE ME 3: $434.1M Overseas Total | $619.3M Global TotalSPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING: $261.1M Overseas Total | $469.3M Global TotalWAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES: $46.0M Overseas Total | $102.5M Global Total 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4142-box-office/page/19/#findComment-3462495
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