HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Except, Emma knows that Robin is alive, unlike with Patrina. Oh, I know. I'm more talking in general. X becomes "mother figure" to Emma. Patrick looks half-asleep. Because my main point is, why is this show trying to make Patrick's gf's a type of mother to Emma? Emma has a mother. Sam or Sabrina or whoever can act as a friend and a confidante or whatever, but I'm personally just over this show throwing the word "mother" around when it comes to Emma. 2 Link to comment
aw86 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Oh, I know. I'm more talking in general. X becomes "mother figure" to Emma. Patrick looks half-asleep. Because my main point is, why is this show trying to make Patrick's gf's a type of mother to Emma? Emma has a mother. Sam or Sabrina or whoever can act as a friend and a confidante or whatever, but I'm personally just over this show throwing the word "mother" around when it comes to Emma. Plus Sam is being written as saintly and perfect as Sabrina was. Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Plus Sam is being written as saintly and perfect as Sabrina was. She can be perfect and saintly but damn, have her focus on her own son. Link to comment
SlovakPrincess August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) Their target demo is a lot of frickin people like me -- mid 30s, got into the show in the 80s or 90s and remember the AIDS storyline and young Robin. We are the target demo because we buy shit now, and advertisers like us. So, no, continuing to hand wave the awful things done to this character (which were completely avoidable) will not help your ratings ... And I honestly have no issue with Sam in general or Sam as a stepmom to Emma even. But the whole replacing Robin while Robin languishes for years in captivity thing is what drives me bonkers. Because it's cruel. Robin could be divorced and free and co-parenting but never seen ... Edited August 13, 2015 by SlovakPrincess 9 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 And I honestly have no issue with Sam in general or Sam as a stepmom to Emma even. But the whole replacing Robin while Robin languishes for years in captivity thing is what drives me bonkers. Because it's cruel. Robin could be divorced and free and co-parenting but never seen ... Yes! I'm exactly where you're at. It's not about Sam. It's about this show trying to pretend that Robin isn't a prisoner. Meanwhile, her family doesn't give a shit and Emma's all good 'cause she has a mother figure! 2 Link to comment
ulkis August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 She can be perfect and saintly but damn, have her focus on her own son. no no, jumping off porches is a good thing! It mean he's fearless like Jason! 3 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 no no, jumping off porches is a good thing! It mean he's fearless like Jason! HA! But, seriously, she's never in scenes with her son, who is always at Monica's or Mac's or at a sleepover or in a basement. But Varni wants her to develop a relationship with Emma? Who should actually be in scenes with PATRICK and showcasing THAT relationship? And speaking of Jason, I'd love to know why this show is not talking about focusing on Jason and Sam. The character has come back from the dead and they don't think it's important to develop a relationship with his wife? They want to focus on Samtrick. I CANNOT. 1 Link to comment
Oracle42 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I am annoyed that Jason was alive for his son's birthday and it was just kind of ignored. I'm assuming that day was devoted to the Franks and Neens comedy hour but I don't want to hear about how Danny is fearless like his father (an actual character trait in his mother's case, result of brain damage in his dad's ) if they don't act like it matters that he's missing out on every day of his son's life Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) I am annoyed that Jason was alive for his son's birthday and it was just kind of ignored. I'm assuming that day was devoted to the Franks and Neens comedy hour but I don't want to hear about how Danny is fearless like his father (an actual character trait in his mother's case, result of brain damage in his dad's ) if they don't act like it matters that he's missing out on every day of his son's lifeThe lack of importance placed in Jason's relationships with Sam and Danny is pure insanity when placed side-by-side with Varni's comments. Like, I would maybe understand it if was just right now, but they'd focus on it closer to the reveal in coming months. But now after he said the focus will be more Samtrick and Sam becoming a mother figure to Emma? I'd be PIIIIISED if I was a JaSam fan, who have already been shortchanged because of the Liason focus since last year. Edited August 13, 2015 by HeatLifer 2 Link to comment
Francie August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) From my unerstanding NV is FV boss.He was the one who told fans who was complainng about lukes exit there was plenty of montages of him on YT ect. Vicki Dummer is FV's boss. That's why we know her title. All we know about Varni is that he's on the "team." His title may be VP or Executive, but I have no doubt that he has no power whatsoever. I think he did the podcast in direct response to whoever (was it Jamey?) complained about the show not having a dedicated publicist. I think Varni's trying to fill that spot now. Let me say now. I'm glad Ron's gone. There's plenty of shit he did that justified the termination. But, dammit, there are a ton of things wrong with this show that had little to nothing to do with Ron. Including this tone deaf focus on these shitty, shitty characters. At least Gloria Monty knew to pull the plug on the Eckerts as a time-sucking family unit, and she did so within 6 months. She got rid of failure Dominique No. 1 in about 6 months as well. WHY are we on year 2.5 of Franco and in the second year of Nina? WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY, WHY? And doubling down on Kiki and Sabrina? Oh, show, why do you want me to hate you so much? Edited August 13, 2015 by Francie 5 Link to comment
Oracle42 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I'm pretty sure both the tone- deaf focus on shitty characters Ron created and the decision to bring back RoHo as Franco were all Ron - ditto the child quad. He's the writer, he is responsible for the shitty stories. Link to comment
dubbel zout August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) And doubling down on Kiki and Sabrina? Tone-deaf, indeed. Sabrina became tolerable—even likable—when they made her more of a supporting character. Don't push her to the front again. There's no point developing Sabrina if TeCa is going to be gone for three months on mat leave. Wait until they know she'll return. And as for Lauren, ugh. I don't care who's playing her, the character is terrible. Edited August 13, 2015 by dubbel zout 3 Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 And as for Lauren, ugh. I don't care who's playing her, the character is terrible. Yeah, there seems to be this weird "Oh, you don't like Kiki now because Kristen Alderson's not playing her" reaction from TPTB about Kiki. And it's like, no, Kristen Alderson didn't help matters any, but Kiki is a non-character. There's no there...there. 3 Link to comment
KerleyQ August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Just to show I'm mean to everyooooooooone, is it just me or does Billy Miller vaguely resemble Dylan Cash here?:https://instagram.co...anpaeveyvlieger He really, really does. That's kind of disturbing. no no, jumping off porches is a good thing! It mean he's fearless like Jason! Well, his "fearless" antics will provide nice cover for little Jake when he pushes his half brother off a balcony or something, enabling Jake to get to offing at least one more kiddie before anyone suspects anything's up. (I vote Spencer. Choose Spencer, Jake!) 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Another gem from that Nathan Varni interview: “September is going to be really great… we have a big central Carly & Sonny story… And we have mob elements in there…” 1 Link to comment
Evolution101 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 LMAO, they really have no clue, do they? 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 And isn't September the big month to get everybody on board as far as renewal? And they're going to center it on, presumably, Sonny and Carly's wedding and mob shenanigans? Link to comment
peachmangosteen August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 It seriously feels like the network thinks the ratings are down because there's not enough Sonny/mob. Like that is so hilarious to me. Yea, that's what it is, guys! 4 Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I'm also seeing comments about Michael questioning who he is and where his loyalties lie in September, which makes me think they're straight-up folding him back into the Corinthos clan. I'm not surprised (I'm pretty sure TPTB are the ones behind the sudden return of Avery to Sonny), but still unhappy if this is true. 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 So, to sum up, we need more mob, Sonny/Carly, Kiki, Sabrina, and Samtrick. LMAOOO. 2 Link to comment
magnolia11 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I'm officially convinced that they are totally Springtime-for-Hitler-ing this show. 8 Link to comment
ulkis August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Honestly, after the summer of Nina and Gentle Crucified Ex-Farmer Franco, Carly and Sonny's wedding seems like a breath of fresh air.* Bonus points if it turns into a disaster and that Sonny was idiotic to propose again, and if everyone makes "why are we here" faces in the congregation. *Insert cliche joke about how I'm from New Jersey and might not be the best judge of what fresh air feels like. 4 Link to comment
dubbel zout August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Honestly, after the summer of Nina and Gentle Crucified Ex-Farmer Franco, Carly and Sonny's wedding seems like a breath of fresh air. Who'd've thunk that would ever be a good thing? It just shows how screwed up this fakakta show has gotten. Bonus points if it turns into a disaster and that Sonny was idiotic to propose again, and if everyone makes "why are we here" faces in the congregation. BH can bust out one of her patented "WTF?" faces at any time during the ceremony. Also, I want someone to speak now and not forever hold his peace at said moment. 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) Didn't Sonny and Carly indicate yesterday the wedding was going to be small and at the house? Which makes sense for round number 5. Sonny and Carly never really had the big poofy dress church wedding, right? I hate the Francs and Neens Variety Hour. But I also really hated the Sonny/Carly/Jason Mob Trinity Hour. And that seems to be what the show wants to swing back to, they think that's going to fix all their woes. Edited August 13, 2015 by TeeVee329 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Honestly, after the summer of Nina and Gentle Crucified Ex-Farmer Franco, Carly and Sonny's wedding seems like a breath of fresh air.* Bonus points if it turns into a disaster and that Sonny was idiotic to propose again, and if everyone makes "why are we here" faces in the congregation. *Insert cliche joke about how I'm from New Jersey and might not be the best judge of what fresh air feels like. Sonny and Carly...FRESH air!? Giiiiirl. You must mean decades-old recycled air and someone failed to change the filter. 2 Link to comment
ulkis August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Didn't Sonny and Carly indicate yesterday the wedding was going to be small and at the house? Which makes sense for round number 5. Sonny and Carly never really had the big poofy dress church wedding, right? Their family includes half the town though, so there's still plenty of potential for WTF faces. Sonny and Carly...FRESH air!? Giiiiirl. You must mean decades-old recycled air and someone failed to change the filter. I love it when soulmates get married! 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I love it when soulmates get married! You're gonna adore Franco/Nina's wedding! 2 Link to comment
FireFoxy August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I haven't watched in AGES but I can't believe CarSon is a thing again. They were awful back then, they are even worse now. LW and MB hace negative romantic chemistry! 1 Link to comment
ulkis August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 http://michaelfairmansoaps.com/news/general-hospitals-rebecca-budig-talks-on-jean-passanante-potential-port-charles-leading-men-whats-up-with-hayden/2015/08/13/ warning: scary picture of Cameron Mathison at the end! Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Hold up...she STILL doesn't know anything about her character or where she's going? My goodness. And Michael Fairman cracks me up with his dumbass questions that have absolutely no context or reasoning. He thinks Patrick is going to end up with Hayden? The characters have shared literally TWO scenes together filled with "Keep Sam away from me." Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Hold up...she STILL doesn't know anything about her character or where she's going? My goodness. I thought the same. Poor Rebecca Budig the actress, still having to beg for any scrap of information about what the hell the deal is with Rebecca Budig the character. She did sorta shade Michael Fairman for his ass-kissing so points to her. 5 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I thought the same. Poor Rebecca Budig the actress, still having to beg for any scrap of information about what the hell the deal is with Rebecca Budig the character. She did sorta shade Michael Fairman for his ass-kissing so points to her. Right? Is that not strange and out of the ordinary at this point? Shouldn't she know exactly who she's playing and a semi-point to her story right now? I love how every response to him was "Really?" I think that's why the multiple questions on JT cracked me up because it's clear she loves Tyler, loves working with him, and THAT'S where her story is right now. Link to comment
jsbt August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) Don't quote me but I believe Agnes was heavily involved in AMC at that time - the whole original Leo/Becca Tyree (Abigail Spencer, now on Rectify)/Greenlee/Scott Chandler setup was hers, an old romantic quad she's used many times. When Becca and Scott did not take off, the show went in on Leo and Greens. I simply cannot credit Passanante for the couple. I think Budig knows the character and the role is bullshit, but she's getting paid and she's along for the ride. I can't fault her for that. She was much the same in Greenlee's later years - she wanted things that were right for the character, and the network and some creative teams wanted something entirely different. So she cashed the checks and did the job. Edited August 13, 2015 by jsbt 4 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Don't quote me but I believe Agnes was heavily involved in AMC at that time - the whole original Leo/Becca Tyree (Abigail Spencer, now on Rectify)/Greenlee/Scott Chandler setup was hers, an old romantic quad she's used many times. When Becca and Scott did not take off, the show went in on Leo and Greens. I simply cannot credit Passanante for the couple. Well, whoever decided to get rid of Becca and Scott, kudos to them. The show took OFF when they focused on Leo/Greens. 1 Link to comment
jsbt August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) It sure did, but I actually liked poor Becca. I always liked Abigail Spencer and I'm glad she'd doing well - she fits a specific type of good-hearted heroine Agnes always elevated, and she wasn't too saccharine IMO. But yeah, the would-be root-for couple tanked. Forbes March was particularly terrible as Scott back then. This was before he went off somewhere, 'trained' as an actor and came back to soaps on OLTL, very hammy and flailing but also charismatic. For awhile. Anyway! Topic: Rebecca Budig knows where her bread is buttered. Was Daniel Cosgrove Scott then? No, he was a few years prior, in another mostly aborted youth quad with Kelsey Jefferson, etc. Both Kelsey and Laura Kirk had been on the show awhile before that storyline but I think the only people who survived that scene were Ryan Lavery and Gillian, who I think (though I'm not sure) also, like Leo and Greens, started as spoilers for others then took off together. Patterns within patterns. Edited August 13, 2015 by jsbt 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Was Daniel Cosgrove Scott then? It was Forbes March during the quad. Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) It was Forbes March during the quad. Huh. I was curious because I thought Cosgrove and Budig had some chemistry, of the scheming together variety, during his 2011 return to AMC. Siiigh...Scott and Madison. Abigail Spencer She's been in a ton of stuff now, but she'll always be "Blah Blah" from early "How I Met Your Mother" to me. "One day, you're going to see the name Blah Blah up in lights!". Edited August 13, 2015 by TeeVee329 Link to comment
ulkis August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Bryan Craig tweet: Sorry for those of you that don't care but it's actually exciting to find a skin product that works Is it, Bryan? The before and after. I'm going to assume the one where he is tan is the "after"? https://twitter.com/bryan_craig/status/631887255120928768 3 Link to comment
jsbt August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Sorry for those of you that don't care I'm precursoring a good portion of my next ten to five hundred posts with this. 11 Link to comment
dubbel zout August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) Hold up...she STILL doesn't know anything about her character or where she's going? My goodness. Her original stint wasn't supposed to be for long, and given the writer changes, I can see where Hayden might change. It's not like we knew who she was when Nik brought her to town to play Jakeson's fake wife. She needed money; after that, anything could be true. The before and after. I'm going to assume the one where he is tan is the "after"? LOL that the lighting (and, you know, time) is probably what's making his skin look better. I love the people on Twitter who call him out on his crap. He instantly blocks them, but at least they get their say for a bit. Edited August 13, 2015 by dubbel zout 1 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 We knew her name was Hayden Barnes. She lost a bunch of money bc of her ex, so she was comfortable (possibly) sexing up Jakeson and fooling him to make him believe they were married. In the meantime, she sexed up Nikolas for shits and giggles. The show can whitewash all that, but those are significant character decisions and behaviors. 3 Link to comment
Francie August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 (edited) I'm officially convinced that they are totally Springtime-for-Hitler-ing this show. This show needs to go meta for the next nurses ball: https://youtu.be/kHmYIo7bcUw It's perfect for Dr. O., actually, with Kiki and her friends Sam, Elizabeth, Lulu, and Sabrina as back up. Edited August 13, 2015 by Francie 1 Link to comment
ulkis August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 LOL that the lighting (and, you know, time) is probably what's making his skin look better. I love the people on Twitter who call him out on his crap. He instantly blocks them, but at least they get their say for a bit. I couldn't resist, I wrote an email: Hello Mr Craig May I know the ingredients to the skin care product you're selling? I once tried an infomercial cream that later caused an effect akin to sunburn, so I always like to double check now. thank you in advance! 5 Link to comment
dubbel zout August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Nice trolling, ulkis. Let us know if he replies! We knew her name was Hayden Barnes. She lost a bunch of money bc of her ex, so she was comfortable (possibly) sexing up Jakeson and fooling him to make him believe they were married. In the meantime, she sexed up Nikolas for shits and giggles. The show can whitewash all that, but those are significant character decisions and behaviors. I don't think any of that tells me who Hayden is, and I'm not surprised ReBu had no idea. None of that is so set in stone that it can't be changed to fit the new circumstance of Hayden sticking around. Besides, they've had her in a coma, which is a typical excuse to change a character without having to do more explaining. 3 Link to comment
HeatLifer August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I think a character's decisions and what they're willing to do tells me a lot about who they are. Whether her personality is changed is another topic altogether. Link to comment
OnceSane August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 Bryan Craig tweet: Sorry for those of you that don't care but it's actually exciting to find a skin product that works Is it, Bryan? The before and after. I'm going to assume the one where he is tan is the "after"? https://twitter.com/bryan_craig/status/631887255120928768 Fuck curing cancer, BryDog discovered face cream! I'm so excited! I can't wait to see what happened when he learns how to exfoliate! I bet his discovery will make people stop eating dogs. 4 Link to comment
backhometome August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 RB still stanning Leo/Greens is what I love about her. She was always Leo>>>>Ryan for Greenlee. 3 Link to comment
TeeVee329 August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 RB still stanning Leo/Greens is what I love about her. She was always Leo>>>>Ryan for Greenlee. And she rightfully wanted them to pair Greenlee with David in 2010. Man were they hot and fun together before Frons ruined everything. 5 Link to comment
backhometome August 13, 2015 Share August 13, 2015 I liked David/Greenlee too. But like always everything good about Greenlee got ruined for Ryass. I don't know why TIIC shoved Rylee down everyone's throats. They werent popular, from what I saw they were really hated in most places. I will never get over that they actually got JD to come back and Rylee were still the endgame. But it fills me with joy that RB wanted Greenleo too. 3 Link to comment
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