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S01.E01: The Harmful One

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Raja

Raja

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What was more important helping the victims or forcing the Thai to accept women in policing? Is Ms Rubirosa supposed to be the cultural expert anywhere a transcontinental jet can land?

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candall

candall

Oh dear.

 

Criminal Minds 2.0:  Unfortunate Redux

 

--The baby-voiced size 12 and the Top Ten World's Hottest Man are BFFs.

 

--JJ Rubiosa:  you name it, she's proficient.

 

--Government internet has Ouija board/crystal ball/genie lamp apps.

 

I like Gary Sinise, but this has no hope if they don't introduce a Spencer Reid character stat.

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Lostinthehouse

Lostinthehouse

This was so formula Criminal Minds.  Go to location where Unsub is, have touchy-feely interpreter negotiate with weird locals, computer whiz locates area of Unsub, catch Unsub, back on the plane happy.  Ugh.  Poor Gary Sinise.

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Raja

Raja

This was so formula Criminal Minds.  Go to location where Unsub is, have touchy-feely interpreter negotiate with weird locals, computer whiz locates area of Unsub, catch Unsub, back on the plane happy.  Ugh.  Poor Gary Sinise.

You forgot to add our team beating the local police to the scene and kicking in the door and in this case the foreign governments allowing armed agents they have no control over take over to do it while the ugly Americans, whose help they didn't even request  force their cultural norms on them

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BooksRule

BooksRule

Not too bad, but not too great either.  At least we didn't see the unsub in the first five minutes.  We were kept wondering if the American boy had something to do with it for a little while.

 

I did find it a little distracting that the 'establishing' shots were obviously shot on location, but our guys were not really in Thailand.  I know they couldn't shoot on location (cost, logistics, etc.) but it was so obvious to me.

 

Finally, I shudder to think of how much taxpayer money it would take to keep that ginormous plane operational.

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Bobbin

Bobbin

I was out before the first commercial. The whole CM concept is too violent, depressing and sadistic for me -- who needs more of this on television? Now we have to travel the world to find more examples of man's inhumanity? And going to such lengths to rescue people who put themselves in danger in the first place is not a hook that will draw in viewers, this viewer anyway. Not even Gary Sinise can sustain this turkey.

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Raja

Raja

I was out before the first commercial. The whole CM concept is too violent, depressing and sadistic for me -- who needs more of this on television? Now we have to travel the world to find more examples of man's inhumanity? And going to such lengths to rescue people who put themselves in danger in the first place is not a hook that will draw in viewers, this viewer anyway. Not even Gary Sinise can sustain this turkey.

Well it wasn't the latest NCIS with a sailor traveling through Iraq on leave. The danger in the pilot should be no worse then some tourist who didn't speak English being in some local farm just outside of DC
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roomtorome

roomtorome

Oh, goodies - more torture porn on parade -

 

Bleah.  One and done.  Well, not even a whole one - 

 

Poor Gary S. - can't even move his face into an expression anymore.  Never did get the appeal of his acting - he has always been a bore to me. 

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blackwing

blackwing

I've never seen one single episode of Criminal Minds Original Recipe.  When I've flipped through channels or seen the commercials, the whole show seems to be about sadistic killers.  Guns and hand-to-hand violence I can take... serial killers torturing people I really don't like.

 

But I was thinking about watching this one, because I like the premise of international locales and I like Gary Sinise.  From the comments here it sounds like this show is awful.

 

Are the foreign locales at least pretty?  Does the cast actually travel on location for each episode or is it all CGI?  There was a shot of a temple in one of the commercials that looked completely CGI.

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blackwing

blackwing

Just finished watching it... I thought it was decent.  The scenes in the woods were too dark and I was a bit annoyed by the constant screaming and whimpering from these two girls who had nobody to blame but themselves for putting themselves into this dangerous situation.  But I'll watch again for the locales and for Alana de la Garza.

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MMC

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Regarding the show needing a Spencer Reid type character, according to Erica"Show Ruiner" MESSer, Monty is suppose to be a combination of both Garcia and Reid.

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thewhiteowl

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Regarding the show needing a Spencer Reid type character, according to Erica"Show Ruiner" MESSer, Monty is suppose to be a combination of both Garcia and Reid.

How am I supposed to believe he is a genius when he doesn't dress like a clown or a goth and apparently owns a comb?

Kidding....kind of.

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MMC

MMC

How am I supposed to believe he is a genius when he doesn't dress like a clown or a goth and apparently owns a comb?

Kidding....kind of.

Well what if Monty started spouting Wikipedia facts frequently. Would that convince you of his being a genius.I am asking this because the writers of the original CM seem to believe that constantly having Reid quote Wikipedia facts equates to him being a genius.

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BellaLugosi

BellaLugosi

 

--The baby-voiced size 12 and the Top Ten World's Hottest Man are BFFs.

 

I really hope that she and the computer genius don't have a Derek/Garcia thing going. "good morning handsome, hello lovely" Please, no. 

 

I don't know how long this will last. It's so cheap looking and they don't seem to be bothering to bring anything new. 

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blackwing

blackwing

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I like that this show has both a non-stereotypical Asian male and a chunky girl. Both are rare on network TV shows. I can't even recall the last recent show that I regularly watched that had a chunky girl in a main or equal role. The last one I remember was Camryn Manheim on "The Practice" and her memorable Emmy speech, "this one is for all the fat girls".

Hawaii Five-0 is the only current network TV show I can think of that has an East Asian male in a non-stereotypical lead or near-lead or equal role. Plenty of East Asian females, but the East Asian male is rare.

I hope this show survives because of the diversity and the nice scenery.

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Margherita Erdman

Margherita Erdman

The danger in the pilot should be no worse then some tourist who didn't speak English being in some local farm just outside of DC

Ah but then they couldn't have an UnSub who was some crazy exotic with extreme facial piercings and a grass skirt who's reverted to his *primitive* roots. Because we don't have those on local farms outside DC. And because naïve altruistic 20somethings always need to be taught some kind of lesson

Also, I am dubious that this kind of random volunteering on a private farm is a thing. Is it?

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needschocolate

needschocolate

Finally watched this.  I did like how the policeman they were dealing with asked how their profile was supposed to help them catch the unsub.  The rest of it was pretty far-fetched.  

 

The heck with the computer guy being the Spencer Reid of this show, these people are all geniuses because they can determine what happened based on extremely little information.  One little brand on the back of a guy's neck and they are positive that it is a native who is hunting the girls to use as a sacrifice for his family because they all died and he is the only one left. Which also means that the girls are still alive because he has to hunt them and can't just sacrifice them by killing them after he captured them the first time.  And since they found a picture of his family, taken years ago, with everyone standing extremely close together, they were sure that his family was very close knit, because no one ever posed with their family for a picture if they weren't really close to them.  Oh and he had some long white stick-like things in his house, so he must be self mutilating (I wonder if the profile included "if you find a tribesman who recently lost all of his family and he doesn't have white rods piercing his body someone, just let him go, he can't possibly be the guy we are looking for).  

 

The team doesn't second guess themselves, even after being completely wrong about the American guy being the unsub.  They total give up the notion that this might have to do with sex slaves.  Apparently, there is no possible way that it involved a (tribal) gang who brand their murdered victims and sell girls into slavery.  I guess the members of this BAU unit have watched enough criminal minds to know that it is never the most likely scenario, or even one of the five most likely scenarios, and that every murderer must be someone who has gone off the deep end and behaves in a way that only one in 230 million people would behave.  

 

That said, I will give it another chance because one of my faults is that I can be a little too optimistic at times - this time, by thinking that since it was the first episode, they needed to spend time on character introduction instead of on actual profiling.  

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Whimsy

Whimsy

I like that this show has both a non-stereotypical Asian male and a chunky girl. Both are rare on network TV shows. I can't even recall the last recent show that I regularly watched that had a chunky girl in a main or equal role.

Crazy Ex-Girlfriend has both of these. Not that I really think the main character is "chunky" but she's not the typical stick figure.

I don't watch Criminal Minds. I only came for Gary Sinise. I didn't even know Alana de la Garza was in this. I like both these actors, so I'll try a couple more episodes. I'm several behind, so this will probably be cancelled before I get sound to another episode.

I like that this show has both a non-stereotypical Asian male and a chunky girl. Both are rare on network TV shows. I can't even recall the last recent show that I regularly watched that had a chunky girl in a main or equal role.

Crazy Ex-Girlfriend has both of these. Not that I really think the main character is "chunky" but she's not the typical stick figure.

I don't watch Criminal Minds. I only came for Gary Sinise. I didn't even know Alana de la Garza was in this. I like both these actors, so I'll try a couple more episodes. I'm several behind, so this will probably be cancelled before I get sound to another episode.

I like that this show has both a non-stereotypical Asian male and a chunky girl. Both are rare on network TV shows. I can't even recall the last recent show that I regularly watched that had a chunky girl in a main or equal role.

Crazy Ex-Girlfriend has both of these. Not that I really think the main character is "chunky" but she's not the typical stick figure.

I don't watch Criminal Minds. I only came for Gary Sinise. I didn't even know Alana de la Garza was in this. I like both these actors, so I'll try a couple more episodes. I'm several behind, so this will probably be cancelled before I get sound to another episode.

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Old Dog

Old Dog

I had a stack of BB on my Tivo but wasn't really inclined to watch until today when I thought I would give it a try. I was expecting not to be impressed - and I wasn't! Dull,dull, dull. The characters didn't engage me, Gary Sinise played the exact same way he played the guy in CSI NY and when they wheeled out that ridiculous aeroplane it lost all of its tenuous hold on reality. A pale copy of the original transposed into a patched together pastiche of a foreign location shot through with a hefty dose of jingoism. I've deleted the rest of the episodes unwatched.

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