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I was surprised that no one (including other MSNBC commentators like Maddow & O'Donnell) didn't bring up Trump responding to a question by Savannah Guthrie that he didn't answer by smirking and saying "You're cute" in a condescending way.  I would have stopped him dead in his tracks and called him on it.  He never would have said that to a man.  Or have we just reached the saturation point on Trump's sexist pig behavior that no one even bothers to bring it up anymore.  I thought for sure Mika would have said something with a KYV tie-in.

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15 minutes ago, Linda956 said:

He never would have said that to a man.  Or have we just reached the saturation point on Trump's sexist pig behavior that no one even bothers to bring it up anymore.  I thought for sure Mika would have said something with a KYV tie-in.

He normally tells men they're terrible people and that's an awful question. 

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I liked today's show. It was fresh and varied and interesting. That final discussion literally made me sit up in my chair, and that hasn't happened for a long, long time.

I always crack the fuck up when they put Joe and Mika in a three-way split screen with Willie, because it's basically like watching a college kid on a Zoom call with his parents...

"Uh-huh...ok...mom and dad please don't fight...but also please don't make out, we're still live... baseball? OK yes i still like baseball, what are you trying to - uh-huh....yeah...big mac...fried chicken? that's nice...."

This is not even a complaint, bc it's kinda charming, but also fucking hilarious

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10 hours ago, xaxat said:

Sasse has started his 2024 presidential campaign. That's why he's speaking out now.

I agree with you.

It will be interesting to see if Joe decides to promote future GOP Presidential candidates if Biden is elected President.

 

 

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Joe needs to stop with his meandering rants.  He opened the show with a disjointed diatribe about Covid, Facebook and the Constitution. Joe claims everything on Facebook is right wing alternative facts.

Mika looks at Joe like he has deep thoughts. 

Joe yelled that the New York Post published lies. He talked to himself and answered his own questions.  My question.

So Joe wants to shut down Facebook and the New York Post.  OK you Mister Rodgers looking gasbag.

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Joe is yelling about the New York Post.  And just compared the “horror of the Trump rallies “ to “the horrors of the Salem witch trials”.  

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8 minutes ago, freddi said:

Joe is yelling about the New York Post.  And just compared the “horror of the Trump rallies “ to “the horrors of the Salem witch trials”.  

He's not wrong tho, heh. But the rambling changing of topics is giving me whiplash. And something about some woman at the NY Post? I...wha..?

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2 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

Joe needs to stop with his meandering rants.  He opened the show with a disjointed diatribe about Covid, Facebook and the Constitution. Joe claims everything on Facebook is right wing alternative facts.

Mika looks at Joe like he has deep thoughts. 

Joe yelled that the New York Post published lies. He talked to himself and answered his own questions.  My question.

So Joe wants to shut down Facebook and the New York Post.  OK you Mister Rodgers looking gasbag.

Joe is tired of people sending him links on Facebook about Covid being a hoax. Joe has been mad at Mark Zuckerberg since the company went public on the stock market. Joe & Donny Deutsh said Zuckerberg was too young to run a company & was a nerd. Joe predicted the company would flop & the shares would be worthless.

Joe is mad at Senator Josh Hawley.

Joe wants to break up Facebook like they did to Bell Telephone.

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Joe has been mad at the NY Post since they published excerpts of his divorce settlement with his second wife.

The NY Post has also published unflattering stories about Mika & Joe , so it makes sense for Joe to be angry.

Mika is worried that Biden only has a 3% lead in Arizona & 5% lead in Wisconsin.

Mika called Trump's rallies super spreader events.

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2 hours ago, neona said:

... the rambling changing of topics is giving me whiplash...

A lack of preparation for dealing with issues is becoming tediously apparent.

If they respected their viewers they would prepare for their editorializations, as well learn the names of their guests etc.

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Just now, Liberty said:

A lack of preparation for dealing with issues is becoming tediously apparent.

If they respected their viewers they would prepare for their editorializations, as well learn the names of their guests etc.

I agree. It's very sad to see the show become so unprofessional.

Are there any show employees with them in Florida to suggest topics for the show ?

It will get worse during a Biden administration because Joe won't be able to go on long anti-Trump rants.

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2 hours ago, oakville said:

Joe wants to break up Facebook like they did to Bell Telephone.

So every state has its own Facebook, Joe?   ok

I don't know how anyone watches this show for 3 hours and thinks "Yeah!! This is what I want to start my day!! Two misinformed millionaires screaming and whining!" 

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Tbh if I wanted to be yelled at on a Monday morning by an angry dude in unwashed clothing I'd just take a morning run through my local park

I don't get why some producer can't just gently nudge him and say "hey...you're rambling...". Or if the producers are scared of him, can't Mika do it? That's why I hate that they put her in that different room, she can't modulate his shit any more

To be fair to Joe, though, I actually liked his interview with Lynne Cheney. He really can be kind and affable and interesting when he actually remembers other humans exist...

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2 minutes ago, neona said:

Tbh if I wanted to be yelled at on a Monday morning by an angry dude in unwashed clothing I'd just take a morning run through my local park

I don't get why some producer can't just gently nudge him and say "hey...you're rambling...". Or if the producers are scared of him, can't Mika do it? That's why I hate that they put her in that different room, she can't modulate his shit any more

 

Mika & Joe are still sitting next to each other when they are in Florida.

Joe's refusal to change his sweater is a result of his desire to help the environment by reducing the amount of energy used to wash & dry his clothes.

I do think some producers are terrified of Joe. A few years ago, Mika was allowed to have a 30 minute women's topics show with guests from 8:30 am- 9:00 am. Joe would frequently interrupt her segment from the  control room with suggestions on how to discuss women's issues & camera angles. 

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39 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

So every state has its own Facebook, Joe?   ok

I don't know how anyone watches this show for 3 hours and thinks "Yeah!! This is what I want to start my day!! Two misinformed millionaires screaming and whining!" 

I admit I hold out for Steve Rattner's charts.  Steve waits patiently while Joe interrupts and harkens back to when he was in Congress.  The rest of the time is background noise if the set is even on past 7:30.

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21 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mika & Joe are still sitting next to each other when they are in Florida.

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Idk I'm confused as fuck about the setup, but she's not THERE anymore and he's exhausting by himself. And I actually LIKE him, most of the time, but it's just too much

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This AM Joe was talking about former constituents who come up to him now and say something like "We used to like you before you became a socialist, using a VERY unflattering Southern accent that ached to have a Dueling Banjoes soundtrack attached to it.  

Didn't he spend all of last year making fun of Trump mimicking Jeff Sessions' accent, Trump using an unflattering Southern accent that ached to have a Dueling Banjoes soundtrack attached to it?  

 

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58 minutes ago, WhineandCheez said:

This AM Joe was talking about former constituents who come up to him now and say something like "We used to like you before you became a socialist, using a VERY unflattering Southern accent that ached to have a Dueling Banjoes soundtrack attached to it.  

Didn't he spend all of last year making fun of Trump mimicking Jeff Sessions' accent, Trump using an unflattering Southern accent that ached to have a Dueling Banjoes soundtrack attached to it?  

 

That was before someone DARED to question Joe on his behavior.  If someone else that he doesn't like does something, he has authority to make fun of them, imitate them, whatever he wants because it serves him.

If a person questions Joe on his hypocrisy, hellfire shall rain down them!!!!! 

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3 hours ago, neona said:

Idk I'm confused as fuck about the setup, but she's not THERE anymore and he's exhausting by himself. And I actually LIKE him, most of the time, but it's just too much

I have noticed that when they are in Florida, Mika will sometimes give papers to Joe and you see the papers go from Mika's camera to Joe's.

It's probably a grocery shopping list.

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

I have noticed that when they are in Florida, Mika will sometimes give papers to Joe and you see the papers go from Mika's camera to Joe's.

It's probably a grocery shopping list.

I honestly thought they were still in Maine right now bc they couldn't,  uhh , link the two angles back again, idk? In Florida they have kinda a nice set, muted, this red nice Morning Joe banner, the opportunity to sit at the same desk if they need to, like before Covid...I'm pretty sure they haven't been there for a looooong time tbh? they are still in the weird Maine set, where they're trapped in separate rooms, I think? Idfk. I  just LONG for normalcy and authenticity tbh

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I work in a middle school and have been in numerous civics classes.  This year the discrepancy between what is being taught as correct government and what is going on is overwhelming.  Things like no one is above the law, checks and balances. Its all out the window. I'm thankful its virtual because my eye rolling and head shaking is constant. I hope that these kids don't think that what is going on  is the norm. 

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Tuesday Recap. Mika & Joe have agreed to appear on Peacock TV on election night. They will provide election results & analysis.

This is a risky move since Mika could end up cry reading the results from states that will vote for Trump. Joe could end up ranting for hours & using a Southern accent.

Willie said you can also watch SNL & 30 Rock on Peacock TV.

The lighting on Heilemann is scary. Kasie & Kornacki are on.

Mika said Wisconson is a tight race. Biden is leading 51-43. That's not a tight race Mika!

Biden is leading in Penn 49-45.

Trump is ahead 48-47 in Georgia.

Biden is leading 9% nationally according to the NY Times.

 

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Joe said it was a brilliant strategy for Biden to stop having any events this week and focus on debate preparation.

Joe said Trump is foolish to attack Dr Fauci. Mika shook her head at all of Trump's comments about the pandemic.

Mika is wearing a turqoise bathrobe & Joe is wearing a navy blue sweater again.

Joe said it was wrong for Trump to support the terrorists that tried to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

Joe is mad that anyone is voting for Donald Trump because he is trying to get Barr to arrest his opponents.

Joe is repeating his rant.

 

They showed a clip of Trump calling Biden & Jeff Mason a criminal.

Joe said that Trump is a strongman who belongs in Belarus.

 

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Mika started cry reading about Trump at 6:14 a.m. She cried about Wisconsin.

Mika was happy that people voted in the rain in Palm Beach.

Joe said he talked to the smartest people in Democratic & Republican politics in Florida. They are never wrong. They predict the race will be within 100,000. votes.

I wish Joe would admit that he was wrong about Florida in 2016.

Kornacki said some old Democrats have re registered as Republicans in the Trump era.

 

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Joe said he will be following Miami-Dade County. Trump is over performing with Latino Catholics & Biden is doing better with White Catholics.

Joe said Biden will do well with early voters. He should be up 7% with 65% of the votes in.

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Mika was happy that the Supreme Court ruled that the deadline for mail in ballots will be extended to Friday Nov 6. This will help Democrats who mail in their ballots.

 

Kasie is worried that ACB could help Trump if she is seated before election day.

Joe said Republicans are hypocrites for complaing about John Roberts.

Joe is scared that Biden is only up 1% in NC.

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1 hour ago, neona said:

Michael Steele LEMME KISS YOUR BEAUTIFUL BALD HEAD. 

That ad almost made me cry. The Lincoln project is so badass

I have to admit that I have become quite fond of Michael Steele over the last few years. He is a way better pundit than he was a politician.

This morning Joe, Mika, and the NBC chyron referenced the "formatting change" for this week's debate. Um, don't they mean "format"?

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Steele is excited to endorse Joe Biden for President. He will still be a Republican.

He is worried about Trump's behavior. He told his friends that are happy with their 401 K's under Trump to be concerned about Trump's behavior.

Willie said many Republicans hate Trump's tweets & his behavior.

Michael Steele said people shouldn't care about tax cuts.

Steele didn't acknowledge that he makes a living being an anti- Trump Republican strategist on MSNBC.

Joe said he wanted the government to balance the budget & not reward military contractors on pork barrel politics.

Joe is opposed to Trump wanting his opponents jailed.

 

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A better show today IMHO.  It's the guests that make this show, not the hosts.

The Hydrosonic toothbrush schtick was very good.

If president Trump loses the election, it is hard to imagine any reason to watch most of the MSNBC line-up.

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2 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika & Joe have agreed to appear on Peacock TV on election night

So here's how this went down. Joe wanted to be in on election coverage. 

Cesar had an assistant call the producer and tell them "Lester, Chuck & Savannah cover on NBC. Brian, Rachel, Nicolle, Joy with the various panelists, Claire, Steele, Heileman, are MSNBC anchors.  Tell Joe & Mika they can have Peacock.  Take it or leave it. " 

I watched Peacock during the Barrett hearings here at work because Chuck Todd was doing coverage on MSNBC.  But I'm gonna say most people aren't watching Peacock on a night this important. You can stream MSNBC live, or watch it or NBC on tv. Peacock is your last resort. 

 

2 hours ago, neona said:

Michael Steele LEMME KISS YOUR BEAUTIFUL BALD HEAD. 

That ad almost made me cry. The Lincoln project is so badass

Except if Biden wins all these Lincoln Project people will start bashing him Day One. 

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13 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

So here's how this went down. Joe wanted to be in on election coverage. 

Cesar had an assistant call the producer and tell them "Lester, Chuck & Savannah cover on NBC. Brian, Rachel, Nicolle, Joy with the various panelists, Claire, Steele, Heileman, are MSNBC anchors.  Tell Joe & Mika they can have Peacock.  Take it or leave it. " 

Except if Biden wins all these Lincoln Project people will start bashing him Day One. 

I think it is a good decision by MSNBC to keep Mika & Joe away from any other NBC or MSNBC personalities.

Joe could easily derail NBC coverage of the results with his long rants & botched Southern accent. Mika will get too emotional if Biden doesn't win in a landslide.

Will members of the Lincoln Project join the Democratic Party after the election ?

I would suspect that the remaining Republicans will be upset with the Lincoln Project members.

Claire Macaskill said that Biden has much higher favorability ratings than Hillary Clinton in 2016. This will be a key difference than 2016.

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

Claire Macaskill said that Biden has much higher favorability ratings than Hillary Clinton in 2016. This will be a key difference than 2016.

And the amount of early voting. Very reminiscent of 2008. 

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On 10/19/2020 at 11:03 AM, oakville said:

Mika & Joe are still sitting next to each other when they are in Florida.

Joe's refusal to change his sweater is a result of his desire to help the environment by reducing the amount of energy used to wash & dry his clothes.

I do think some producers are terrified of Joe. A few years ago, Mika was allowed to have a 30 minute women's topics show with guests from 8:30 am- 9:00 am. Joe would frequently interrupt her segment from the  control room with suggestions on how to discuss women's issues & camera angles. 

With the utmost respect, Rachel Maddow wears the same outfit every night.  It’s brilliant really, and no one complains.  Why is it a bad thing for Joe to do?  I couldn’t care less what they wear.

Now, what happened to Biden’s big lead promoted by this show and other MSNBC shows?   I’m confused.  Where’s Kornacki?

I was shocked that Joe showed Trump calling CNN “dumb bastards”. 

I wish Joe would start following the Biden campaign a bit and stop making his show all about Trump quotes.  I’m wearing down.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, ButterQueen said:

With the utmost respect, Rachel Maddow wears the same outfit every night.  It’s brilliant really, and no one complains.  Why is it a bad thing for Joe to do?  .

 

 

Idk, I think it's because Rachel's is tailored, professional and suitable evening formal wear for an evening show

That thing on Joe, every morning, is like waking up to the physical manifestation of our collective depression. It's like this dark blob that takes up two thirds of the screen, siiiiiigh. And it kinda looks like he slept in it LMAO. 

Imma miss Joe's beautiful Trump Era suits. it was like he had one burst of relative middle-aged hotness before prematurely becoming a slippered octogenarian. RiP Florida suits...Barney Stinson will officiate the memorial service:

  

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4 hours ago, Liberty said:

The Hydrosonic toothbrush schtick was very good.

Brian Williams said "at last check we have no ballistic missiles that promote oral hygiene." 

1 hour ago, neona said:

it was like he had one burst of relative middle-aged hotness

I guess I missed that five minutes. 

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2 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

With the utmost respect, Rachel Maddow wears the same outfit every night.  It’s brilliant really, and no one complains.  Why is it a bad thing for Joe to do?  I couldn’t care less what they wear.

Now, what happened to Biden’s big lead promoted by this show and other MSNBC shows?   I’m confused.  Where’s Kornacki?

I was shocked that Joe showed Trump calling CNN “dumb bastards”. 

I wish Joe would start following the Biden campaign a bit and stop making his show all about Trump quotes.  I’m wearing down.

 

 

I think it is rude for Joe to show up in the same dirty clothes every day to host a cable tv show. Virtually every male guest & Willie wears a blazer or a suit with or without a tie. Joe looks like a slob. It's not as bad as when he showed up to the NY studio with cereal stained fleece tops for a year in 2012.

The cereal stained fleece era of Morning Joe can be in part explained by Joe going through a separation in 2012.

Mika was instrumental in getting Joe properly dressed for the show over the past few years. However, since the summer, Joe looks unkempt.

The RCP national average is giving Joe Biden about a 7-8% lead which is larger than Barack Obama had in 2008.

I suspect Joe wants to try & make the race exciting by calling it a barn burner if Biden is leading in Wisconsin by 8% but he sounds silly. Perhaps they are trying to encourage people to tune in for the show ?

I agree with you about the lack of coverage of the Joe Biden campaign.It's non existent. I am shocked that the show can't even get Biden surrogates like Mayor Pete on the show anymore.

Morning Joe seems to be losing out on getting the top campaign spokespeople to appear on the show.

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7 hours ago, oakville said:

Tuesday Recap. Mika & Joe have agreed to appear on Peacock TV on election night. They will provide election results & analysis.

This is a risky move since Mika could end up cry reading the results from states that will vote for Trump. Joe could end up ranting for hours & using a Southern accent.

I do not understand why MSNBC would they let Joe and Mika on when they have a perfectly capable anchor in Brian Williams.  He does the election night broadcast very well.  He understands that people are watching for the  results, not his personal opinion.  I for one like how he gives the results in a straightforward fashion.  There is some verbal meandering with Brian, but his usually adds to the story, unlike Mika's disjointed asides.

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10 minutes ago, nittanycougar said:

I do not understand why MSNBC would they let Joe and Mika on when they have a perfectly capable anchor in Brian Williams.  He does the election night broadcast very well.  He understands that people are watching for the  results, not his personal opinion.  I for one like how he gives the results in a straightforward fashion.  There is some verbal meandering with Brian, but his usually adds to the story, unlike Mika's disjointed asides.

Brian will be the host of the Election Night coverage on MSNBC. 

Relegating Joe & Mika to Peacock is pretty much a slap in the face.  I would love to find out if Brian or Rachel told TPTB "No Scarborough on our broadcast". 

Brian has made comments about Mika reading Joe's WaPo columns on air, by complimenting Eugene on his column and saying that Eugene is too humble to read his column on air, unlike "some people" but I would like to ask you what you meant...", and I'm sure Joe wouldn't go within 20 feet of a studio where his arch nemesis "R" is sitting.  

MSNBC probably already had enough people booked. I'm wondering what kind of shape Mika is going to be in at 9 pm. Shouldn't she be in bed by then? The sugar rush would have worn off and the Vodka and Ambien will be kicking in. 

The good news is, if they're in FL, the control room can cut their feed whenever they have to. 

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28 minutes ago, nittanycougar said:

I do not understand why MSNBC would they let Joe and Mika on when they have a perfectly capable anchor in Brian Williams.  He does the election night broadcast very well.  He understands that people are watching for the  results, not his personal opinion.  I for one like how he gives the results in a straightforward fashion.  There is some verbal meandering with Brian, but his usually adds to the story, unlike Mika's disjointed asides.

I think Mika wants to be the first to announce that KYV seminar spokewoman Senator Kamala Harris has been elected VP of the USA on election night.

Mika could try & persuade Peacock viewers that her KYV seminars can help women achieve their career goals.

It seems like Mika & Joe on election night will replace the Morning Joe morning after show at Rockefeller Center that they had in 2016. There was an audience in shock at the results, & Mika & Joe were crowing that they were right about the election . Jared & Ivanka would be the true power behind President Trump. Mika said that Ivanka would make sure her dad behaved as President.

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