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Discussion of the hosts regarding a specific episode is fine here, but generalized discussion of the hosts go in the The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value. 

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3 minutes ago, Eliot said:

“Wiccaleaks.”

Oh, Mika.

And Muss-go!  AKA Moscow

I wonder if Mika watched MSNBC's coverage of the convention last night.  Joy's attire was pretty, yet professional and spot on for an anchor.  Nicolle's, too.  Yes, Rachel wears black every day, but Mika, you are NO Rachel.

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Dr Biden was fantastic. Though I wonder why her team put her in a noisy parking lot. Dude, put her in a pleasant park or something. 

John Heilemann keeps giant wolves (?) in his house. He is so damn cool. I bet he has peacocks running around in his garden.

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Joe mocked Trump when he said that Michelle Obama got the death count wrong from the virus. There were 22,000 more deaths.

There was no mention of why Michelle Obama didn't mention Kamala Harris in her speech.  It may have been taped before Biden picked Kamala.

Willie said that on primary day in New Hampshire, Biden appeared on Morning Joe & was sad that he would finish in 5th place,

Biden was very quiet. Joe discussed his long time friendship with Joe Biden . They used to talk a lot, but were quiet that day.

Joe complained about NH  & Iowa being too white to hold the first primary & caucus.

Joe said he feels bad for every one that loses primaries. Joe said he never experienced losing a congressional race since he was so popular.

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Joe called Trump's supporters on Capitol Hill hacks.

Joe said Trump knew about the Russians having the emails which they sent to wikileaks. They accepted the wikileaks emails.

Joe said Trump committed perjury.

 

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“Wiccaleaks.”

Oh, Mika.

And Muss-go!  AKA Moscow

 

I'm too lazy to look it up, but "Muss-go" is probably an aternative/cool way to say it that most people don't know.  Like Dick Cheeney.  Also, Mika thinks that "Scarborough" is pronounced "Scar-bur-oh", unlike how it is truly pronounced--"Douche-Bro"

 

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2 hours ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

And Muss-go!  AKA Moscow

I think that's the British pronunciation? She probably picked it up from Dr Brzezinski so I don't think it's that egregious on this occasion.

I've no explanation for Wicca-leaks though, though the unintentional shade is pretty funny

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Joe wanted members of Congress to stop grandstanding over the postal service and make sure that all the votes get counted.

Joe said that the postal service should make sure that shut ins & World War 2 veterans deliver the ballots so they are counted. 

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Joe wanted members of Congress to stop grandstanding over the postal service and make sure that all the votes get counted.

Joe said that the postal service should make sure that shut ins & World War 2 veterans make sure that their votes be counted. 

Mika is worried about super spreader events.

Joe said that the tech stocks were the reason that  the stock market reached a record high yesterday.

Joe said there was a disconnect between Wall Street & Main Street.

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Joe said that he talked to small business owners who are worried about business going down without the stimulus checks.

Joe said banks will suffer from people not paying their mortgages.

Joe said a hard rain would fall. Mika made a frownie face.

Joe said the economy will be in bad shape no matter who wins the election.

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5 hours ago, WhineandCheez said:

Also, Mika thinks that "Scarborough" is pronounced "Scar-bur-oh", unlike how it is truly pronounced--"Douche-Bro"

 

Joe thinks it's pronounced "Cicer-o"

Quousque tandem abutere patientia nostra?

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Mika & Joe were very nice to Jill Biden. Joe asked Dr Jill a question about Joe's catholic faith which helped him deal with grief.

Mika mentioned that she has known Dr Jill for a long time & is grateful that they are willing to go back to Washington for 4 years.

Mika was excited that Dr Jill will resume teaching online after they are in the White House.

Joe was very happy that Colin Powell & other Republicans spoke on behalf of Joe Biden. Joe said they are well respected statesmen who will help convince other Republicans to vote for Biden.

Willie said people are tired of waking up to Trump's tweets every day.

Willie loved the role call with the guy from Rhode Island who had a plate of calamari. Willie said other states should have food during the role call.

Mika was worried about fried calamari having too many calories.

Joe said future conventions may be online.

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Joe is off again.

Willie says that Kamala Harris prosecuted the case against Donald Trump.  Shawna Thomas of Quibbi is very inspired by the impact of Harris on Indian and Black voters. I believe that  Shawna is a fresh face on this show.  She is a young Black lady  in her 20's or 30's, which is welcome change from the collection of old time Washington lifers who drink cocktails with JoMika.

Mika cut off Shawna's praise of Kamala to show a clip of Barack Obama.  Nice, Mika.

John Meacham praised Obama and related his speech to the Age of Enlightenment or something.

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wow this is a downer. The convention last night was so inspirational, this is like a crash landing... i guess we're not allowed any optimism or happiness

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2 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

Joe is off again.

Willie says that Kamala Harris prosecuted the case against Donald Trump.  Shawna Thomas of Quibbi is very inspired by the impact of Harris on Indian and Black voters. I believe that  Shawna is a fresh face on this show.  She is a young Black lady  in her 20's or 30's, which is welcome change from the collection of old time Washington lifers who drink cocktails with JoMika.

Mika cut off Shawna's praise of Kamala to show a clip of Barack Obama.  Nice, Mika.

John Meacham praised Obama and related his speech to the Age of Enlightenment or something.

I am surprised that Joe is absent again. It's a very important week for the country's political process & Joe is AWOL. Was Joe afraid that he might have to compliment President Obama & Senator Harris's speeches?

I am sure that Joe will be around next week to criticize & mock virtually every speaker at next week's RNC convention.

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

I am sure that Joe will be around next week to criticize & mock virtually every speaker at next week's RNC convention.

Well, considering that the speakers will include Kid Rock, Scott Baio, Antonio Sabato, Jr. and the My Pillow Guy, you can’t really blame him for that.

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14 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika was worried about fried calamari having too many calories.

Really? But a sheet cake from Publix is cool?  Calamari actually has fewer calories than sheet cake, according to my medical advisor, the internet. 

 

1 hour ago, oakville said:

I am surprised that Joe is absent again. It's a very important week for the country's political process & Joe is AWOL. Was Joe afraid that he might have to compliment President Obama & Senator Harris's speeches?

He's writing an editorial for WaPo with his own speech because he cannot stand to be upstaged by a beloved former President and the Dem nominee for Vice President.   He recorded their speeches and will be combining them into his editorial entitled "Hey Look At Me! I'm Still Relevant!"

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Just now, Albanyguy said:

Well, considering that the speakers will include Kid Rock, Scott Bailey, Antonio Sabato, Jr. and the My Pillow Guy, you can’t really blame him for that.

The My Pillow guy is going to put a packet of White Oleander inside every pillow you purchase. 

I saw his commercial on MSNBC this morning, his "body pillow" is on sale from $89.99 to $29.99. And pillows are now 2 for 1.   Trouble in PillowParadise?  After his run in with Anderson Cooper, he may be back on the crack.  Why doesn't Joe interview HIM?  That would at least give Mika a real excuse to be hysterical. 

She had it dialed up to 11 this morning.   

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I would pay actual money to see Joe interview the My Pillow guy.

I wanna be fair so aside from the depression-factor I thought Mika did a good job. She read fluently, she didn't stumble, she asked good relevant questions and they weren't prefaced by rambly preambles. You could tell she had done her homework. That's really all we ask. I still think she could be a bit more welcoming to guests, that's one of the slightly endearing-ish aspects of Joe's otherwise annoying Southernness, he's friendly.

I'm still confused about the black shirt thing. Why don't the producers point out to her that some day they'll do an anniversary retrospective with clips from previous shows and all the clips will be indistinguishable? Or she'll win an award and the congratulatory montage will look like all her best moments happened on the same day? Or they'll run one of those "every time we warned about Russia" or "the many times we said X" montages but it won't look like many times at all, because they'll look identical. Why would one want that effect on a daily morning show?

There must be a way to both fight sexism and keep things dynamic over time and not put oneself so much at a disadvantage in other ways. I think someone upthread mentioned Elizabeth Warren, and that's a great example. She had this cardigan thing that no living human would ever describe as beautiful or sexy but she had it it like 10 bright colors so you could see her on stage and when they ran montages of all of her many, many rallies it did indeed look like many, many rallies and not just one. It can be done

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Speaking of people who will be convention speakers next week for the GOP, I read that Patricia & Mark McCloskey, the couple who wielded guns at Black Lives Matter protesters in St. Louis, will have convention speaking roles.  In June, video was captured of the couple pointing guns at peaceful protesters walking past their home to get to the St. Louis mayor's residence.  What a lineup compared to the Democrats this week.  It'll be interesting to hear what Joe & Mika have to say about this group.

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She had it dialed up to 11 this morning.   

Something Mika and Nigel Tufnel has in common....

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I'm still confused about the black shirt thing. Why don't the producers point out to her that some day they'll do an anniversary retrospective with clips from previous shows and all the clips will be indistinguishable?

Now wait a minute here, haven't you ever tried to wear a black jacket with black pants of a different brand and find out that there are actually like 20 shades of black.  Variety!!

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Well, considering that the speakers will include Kid Rock, Scott Baio,

Is Joanie still alive and can she come and bitch slap Chachi???

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It was also a little bit awkward that all the women attending the convention, and most female journalists were wearing suffragette white to honor Kamala Harris, the first black female vice presidential nominee. It seemed like sort of a weird statement to do the exact opposite, idk?  It was a historic morning by all accounts

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16 hours ago, WhineandCheez said:

Something Mika and Nigel Tufnel has in common...

Is Joanie still alive and can she come and bitch slap Chachi???

Unfortunately Erin Moran is deceased, but maybe one of the kids from Charles in Charge can slap Scott Baio.

I will say that I'll tune in for Antonio Sabato, Jr. because he is still cute.

Joe is mad that Trump gave a speech in the Scranton, Pennsylvania area yesterday because the president was in Biden's home state.  Joe said Trump insulted Biden.  Isn't that what politicians do?  Has Joe ever watched a debate in any presidential race?  Or even a tape of his own show.

I am confused by Joe's expectation that everyone in politics is going to play nice, especially given his own love of insult "comedy."

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I haven’t watched in a long time but have the show on today. Does Mika regularly blurt stuff out loud but under her breath, talking over people and making everything that’s being said unintelligible? Joe’s always done that, but Mika seemed to talk through most of what was said in the first 30 minutes.  What’s up with that?

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Joe is very excited about Biden's speech. He called it Reaganesque & will attract many Republican voters.

Heilmann said it was Biden's best speech in his career. There were no gaffes.

Katty Kay wore black in sympathy with Mika.

Mka wore a blue top with a black cardigan.

I am amazed that Joe can't go more than 1 minute without mentioning Donald Trump.

Can you imagine what this show will be like during a Biden presidency ? Joe will keep talking about Trump.

Mika called Joe , "My Joe"

Mika is worried about Fox News viewers not having a good opinion about Biden.

Joe was happy that Fox News praised Biden's speech.

 

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Joe was happy that people on the far left of the Democratic party were upset with Joe Biden for not being progressive enough.

Heilmann said Biden might use Reagan's debate statement of " Are you better off than four years ago ?"

Joe is impersonating Ronald Reagan. Joe said that Reagan was underestimated.

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36 minutes ago, may flowers said:

I haven’t watched in a long time but have the show on today. Does Mika regularly blurt stuff out loud but under her breath, talking over people and making everything that’s being said unintelligible? Joe’s always done that, but Mika seemed to talk through most of what was said in the first 30 minutes.  What’s up with that?

This isn't really her fault, though. When she used to co-host it was appropriate to respond in the moment to things people said. It only seems odd now because the producers made Joe the main host and moved her off-screen for most of the show.

12 minutes ago, oakville said:

Katty Kay wore black in sympathy with Mika.

It's so funny because on MSNBC it's like, White Women: "we're feminists! see, we're symbolically wearing the same (non) color! we spent a lot of time thinking about this!", while the Women of Color are like: "Nah we're gonna just be ourselves and wear what the heck we want, and also, we're gonna talk about minimum wage, child care, domestic violence, Black Lives Matter, healthcare, and all the other shit that ACTUALLY matters to women". I'm 50% sympathetic to the black shirt movement and 50% thinking, for the love of god, you're really truly missing the point here. But yeah, live and let live. Tbh, Mika was fine today, all that's really required is some tiny variation to communicate that we're not stuck in a timeloop. 

Also, I'm glad to see Katty Kay. She's fucking smart and I missed her, I think she's been on vacation or something. 

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Joe made fun of Trump for not wanting to save sharks. Trump was also against mosquitos.

Joe said Trump can't escape from his book in 2000 where he wanted to attack Iraq.

Joe never brought this up with Trump during his 200 appearances on Morning Joe during the 2016 campaign.

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Hillary Clinton showed up to discuss the Biden campaign.

Joe said that Biden was lucky to be able to campaign from home. Hillary laughed.

She looked very tired today. I don't think she was wearing any makeup.

She can't figure out why Trump is always deferential to Putin.

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Mika had a KYV segment on women over 50 after 8 30 am. This was a reward from Joe for having to stay live through the 8 am hour to interview Hillary Clinton.

mika had trouble pronouncing the word celebrates. She said celibate which has a completely different meaning than celebrate.

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26 minutes ago, oakville said:

celibate

Freudian slip much Mika? 

Joe should take lessons from BriWi if he wants to go off on Trump.  Hilarious subtle shade as opposed to screeching the same thing over and over. 

2 hours ago, neona said:

Also, I'm glad to see Katty Kay. She's fucking smart and I missed her, I think she's been on vacation or something. 

It's a shame we can barely recognize her.  I swear I looked at her this morning and thought, I think that's Katty Kay, is she sitting in front of a wind machine?  

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

It's a shame we can barely recognize her.  I swear I looked at her this morning and thought, I think that's Katty Kay, is she sitting in front of a wind machine?  

Nah, I don't agree. She looked great to me. I was only making fun of the possibly not quite thought through, slightly superficial black-shirt gimmick, but otherwise she's a fucking fantastic journalist, I respect the hell out of her. There was literally some convo this week about foreign policy where I was thinking where the hell is Katty Kay. I'm glad she's back. YMMV of course.

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4 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika had a KYV segment on women over 50 after 8 30 am. This was a reward from Joe for having to stay live through the 8 am hour to interview Hillary Clinton.

mika had trouble pronouncing the word celebrates. She said celibate which has a completely different meaning than celebrate.

I noticed that one too!

It must have taken superhuman levels of self control for Hillary to sit and speak cordially to those two after all of their shenanigans in 2015-2016.

Meeks is getting dragged on Twitter:

 

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David Ignatius is on the show to talk about his latest WaPo op-ed "Hard Evidence that Shreds Trump's lies about the Russia Hoax." He also brings up the Ukraine.  I feel like I am watching a rerun from one year ago.  Joe is excited that he and David can fluff each other over their WaPo op-eds.

Joe says a CBS poll shows a 10 point lead for Joe Biden over Trump in a national poll.  Joe told Kasey Hunt what she is supposed to say about Joe Biden.  Breaking news: People who say they don't like Trump will vote for Biden.  Thanks, Captain Obvious.

Joe says Joe Biden has a 7 point or more lead in every battleground state.  But the last poll Joe showed had only a 2 point lead.  I guess Joe can't be expected to proofread his materials before he puts this on TV.

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On 8/21/2020 at 1:56 PM, Eliot said:

t must have taken superhuman levels of self control for Hillary to sit and speak cordially to those two after all of their shenanigans in 2015-2016.

Meeks is getting dragged on Twitter:

Perhaps the reason for her absence this morning.  

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I liked Joe's hosting today. It was pleasant and comfortable. It's Monday and it might be a long week so I appreciate that

By the way Joe, you didn't call Biden Teflon Joe, your wife did, on Colbert or something, after you'd basically declared his campaign over. Give her some credit.

This Rachel Bitecofer pollster they had on as a guest has an interesting bio https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/06/rachel-bitecofer-profile-election-forecasting-new-theory-108944  A long read, but fascinating

Happy to see Anand again

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3 hours ago, nittanycougar said:

But the last poll Joe showed had only a 2 point lead. 

Not to defend Joe's playing fast and loose with facts in general, but battleground states are usually, MI,PA, WI OH. I wouldn't expect NC to be going for Biden, at least not yet. 

Joe loves living in the past doesn't he.   He doesn't do a very good job hosting by himself, he needs Willie to keep things moving and to articulate thoughts clearly. Mika is just a hysterical loon unless she's moon eyeing her Joe's "brilliant" comments, and Joe is so full of himself and how he is the only person to save the nation. 

I can't believe Kasie didn't flip him off and turn off her computer.  

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one word changes the whole meaning of that sentence, Kasie is a professional.
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5 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Not to defend Joe's playing fast and loose with facts in general, but battleground states are usually, MI,PA, WI OH. I wouldn't expect NC to be going for Biden, at least not yet.

I can't believe Kasie flip him off and turn off her computer.  

OMG, did she really do this?  Honestly, sometimes I wonder where she gets her patience.

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Joe should never be left alone with access to all the oxygen that Mika and Willie normally use.   Yikes 😬

 

Joe just urged the panel guests to "please push back on me, hard, if I'm oversimplifying."  HAHAHAHA!!   "Could you expand on that a little bit for us, Joe?"

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18 minutes ago, oakville said:

I was pleasantly surprised that Joe decided not to discuss Kelly Ann Conway's departure from the White House.

Yeah, I think that was gracious, and definitely the right choice. Kids should be off-limits.

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