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Discussion of the hosts regarding a specific episode is fine here, but generalized discussion of the hosts go in the The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value. 

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9 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe wants Democrats to pick candidates that are culturally aligned with their states

Joe wants Democrats who are Scarborough Republicans. If Democrats do that they better know their KYJ.

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58 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe complained about Blue checkmark Democrats who are focused on identity politics.

Has Joe ever said who these “blue checkmark Democrats” that he rails against are?  

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On 5/10/2019 at 12:05 PM, Tom Holmberg said:

How Barack Obama’s stimulus plan devolved into a socialist spending spree that would make FDR and LBJ shudder

Joe should maybe buy a dictionary with all the money he has and look up the definition of "socialist" because it doesn't mean what he thinks it means. 

"A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole", ie  Socialism is the government running all industry, and last time I checked that is not happening in the United States.  That word has been used to try to scare people since FDR. 

Joe you can bad mouth Barack Obama all you want, and Mika can bitch about them being "hard to get" but we all know it's just your jealousy of people who wouldn't give you the time of day or spit on you if you were on fire.   They are beloved all over the world and you are a nothing but a joke, you're too stupid to realize that people use your idiot show to promote themselves and as soon as you don't have a show, they'll erase your contact info from their phones and ghost the fuck out of both of you. 

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

Joe should maybe buy a dictionary with all the money he has and look up the definition of "socialist" because it doesn't mean what he thinks it means. 

"A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole", ie  Socialism is the government running all industry, and last time I checked that is not happening in the United States.  That word has been used to try to scare people since FDR. 

Joe you can bad mouth Barack Obama all you want, and Mika can bitch about them being "hard to get" but we all know it's just your jealousy of people who wouldn't give you the time of day or spit on you if you were on fire.   They are beloved all over the world and you are a nothing but a joke, you're too stupid to realize that people use your idiot show to promote themselves and as soon as you don't have a show, they'll erase your contact info from their phones and ghost the fuck out of both of you. 

Joe was very upset that he was not allowed to be directly involved during the transition in 2008.

Joe had many suggestions for the cabinet & policy ideas but Obama didn't listen to him.

Joe mocked Obama after the Democrats lost control of Congress in 2010 . Joe said Obama should have listened to him & be more moderate.

Joe said Obama wasn't ready to be President.

Furthermore, Joe was not invited to the White House after Obama was re elected in 2012 to give his opinions on important matters.

Mka is good friends with Valerie Jarret but she was unable to convince Michell Obama to speak at Mika's KYV seminars this year . Mika has plenty of advice on how Michelle can become successful after leaving the White House.

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2 hours ago, Tom Holmberg said:

Joe wants Democrats who are Scarborough Republicans. If Democrats do that they better know their KYJ.

Know Your Joe? . . . 😉

2 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika had fun with Mad Magazine when she was younger.

This is quite possibly the largest load of manure she has ever shoveled.  Doesn't know anything about movies but was an avid fan of Mad Magazine?  Meeks please.

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12 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mka is good friends with Valerie Jarret but she was unable to convince Michell Obama to speak at Mika's KYV seminars this year .

Oakville, is this true or are you funning us?  That would be the day that Michelle or Valerie would support a self-centered, vanity project like this.

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Ok, I had to watch a lot of the show today because I have a terrible pinched nerve in my neck and shoulders right now and reaching for the remote is more painful than watching the show itself.

Now I get why you guys say the show is pretty good if you factor them out of the equation.  I thought Jeremy Peters and Bob Costa had left for better pastures and was happy to see them this morning.

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10 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

Oakville, is this true or are you funning us?  That would be the day that Michelle or Valerie would support a self-centered, vanity project like this.

It's true. Mika did try to get Michelle for KYV & Morning Joe to discuss her book but she has not appeared.

Doesn't Michelle realize how successful she could be if she listened to Mika?

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29 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe was very upset that he was not allowed to be directly involved during the transition in 2008.

Joe had many suggestions for the cabinet & policy ideas but Obama didn't listen to him.

Joe mocked Obama after the Democrats lost control of Congress in 2010 . Joe said Obama should have listened to him & be more moderate.

Joe said Obama wasn't ready to be President.

Furthermore, Joe was not invited to the White House after Obama was re elected in 2012 to give his opinions on important matters.

This is the equivalent of a spurned lover bad mouthing their ex 

"They didn't realize how great I am and that I was the only person that could truly love them and help them and now they can just burn in hell and I hope they're happy, because it's obvious I don't care at all about them other than obsessing constantly about how they won't give me the time of day". 

Joe is the Glenn Close character in Fatal Attraction.

"I won't be ignored, Barack". 

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

Joe should maybe buy a dictionary with all the money he has and look up the definition of "socialist" because it doesn't mean what he thinks it means. 

"A political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole", ie  Socialism is the government running all industry, and last time I checked that is not happening in the United States.  That word has been used to try to scare people since FDR. 

Joe you can bad mouth Barack Obama all you want, and Mika can bitch about them being "hard to get" but we all know it's just your jealousy of people who wouldn't give you the time of day or spit on you if you were on fire.   They are beloved all over the world and you are a nothing but a joke, you're too stupid to realize that people use your idiot show to promote themselves and as soon as you don't have a show, they'll erase your contact info from their phones and ghost the fuck out of both of you. 

Oh, is this ever true! So many of their "guests" have books coming out, or that are already in bookstores that they shamelessly plug. Oh course this behavior is strongly frowned upon by Meeks and Joe.....oh wait....forget that last remark! One thing I find so annoying is the constant showing of trump's images over and over. Hey guys, we know what he looks like, already! And it's usually the same images all the  time. That Breslin quote is spot on. Why can't they leave the Obamas and Clintons alone? Once again Meeks said the Obamas "hated" Washington. She says this without any proof, like Michelle would confide in her?????

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2 minutes ago, PennyPie18 said:

Obamas "hated" Washington. She says this without any proof, like Michelle would confide in her?????

The Obamas weren't part of the DC cocktail circuit, they didn't want anything to do with it, and that's Joe & Mika's life blood.   If they can't schmooze with people from DC/NY media and political hangers on, what else is there?   

Joe must have had a huge helping of SMUG this morning because his bragging about how Biden being up so much is a sure sign that he will get the nomination was almost nauseating.

I seem to recall his cock sure guarantee that Hillary Clinton would get the nomination in 2008. How'd that work out, Einstein? 

It's a long time til the primaries, Joe.  But go ahead and back your horse and we'll see who has the last laugh. 

Again, people are on your show not because you're some political genius, but because they want the face time and they will step on you to get what they want and never look back. 

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26 minutes ago, oakville said:

Doesn't Michelle realize how successful she could be if she listened to Mika?

Remember the infamous Michelle Obama side eye? 

I'm sure that's the look she gives her assistant every time they tell her Mika Brzezinski wants to know if you'll speak at her KYV event. 

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

Mika has plenty of advice on how Michelle can become successful after leaving the White House.

I know you're joking but I can just imagine Mika thinking she could have actually advised Michelle Obama on anything.

Like having the Number 1 best selling book of the year?  I'm pretty sure Michelle has that covered, but please, oh wise one, enlighten us.  Tell the former First Lady , graduate of Princeton and Harvard, as well as the rest of us how sleeping with your boss is the sure fire way to achieve your dreams while not compromising your values, that is if you  still have any. 

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3 hours ago, oakville said:

Mika had fun with Mad Magazine when she was younger. Joe preferred baseball cards.

Trump said that Mayor Pete looks like Alfred E Neuman from Mad Magazine.

Mayor Pete really gave it right back to trump, didn't he? Uh oh, guess he (trump) will have Mayor Pete investigated for...... treason?......collusion?.......having a higher I.Q. than he does............ derogatory remarks about "old people"......which will it be??? Beto seeems like a nice guy, but I don't think he's ready for the Presidency yet. Maybe in a few years, but not now....JMHO.

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33 minutes ago, PennyPie18 said:

Mayor Pete really gave it right back to trump, didn't he? Uh oh, guess he (trump) will have Mayor Pete investigated for......

Pete is very Obama-esque in his calm demeanor when it comes to dealing with the jabs thrown at him by the other side.

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Joe actually got me interested in the Red Sox this morning. OK it was another are you fucking kidding moment?  Is nothing not about trump anymore?  Do we need to be reminded that he inserts himself into everything? These tweets should not be read even on this show.

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5 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Joe should maybe buy a dictionary with all the money he has and look up the definition of "socialist" because it doesn't mean what he thinks it means

Even if he knows what it means, it doesn't matter, he knew what he was doing throwing that word around when describing Obama saving the economy for capitalism.  He and the rest of the Republican pack was calling Obama's recovery plans "socialism" every day back then. Just like Reagan's famous "Medicare is socialism" record and the current Republicans tossing the word around for AOC , Warren, etc.  It's the old McCarthyism, red scare ploy, 70 years too late.

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2 minutes ago, Tom Holmberg said:

Even if he knows what it means, it doesn't matter, he knew what he was doing throwing that word around when describing Obama saving the economy for capitalism.  He and the rest of the Republican pack was calling Obama's recovery plans "socialism" every day back then. Just like Reagan's famous "Medicare is socialism" record and the current Republicans tossing the word around for AOC , Warren, etc.  It's the old McCarthyism, red scare ploy, 70 years too late.

They even did it to FDR back in the day. Joe is such a schmuck.  If they want a nice even tempered Republican on the network, give David Jolly a show. He's on 11th Hour all the time, and granted I fall asleep to the dulcet tones of BriWi's voice, but I don't recall Jolly every behaving the way Joe does, with the lying and the yelling and the bragging and acting like he knows something when he wouldn't recognize what he's talking about if it walked up and slapped him. 

Even when Joe talks about something I might be interested in, it grates on me so much because he has to ruin it with his know it all bullshit. 

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54 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Even when Joe talks about something I might be interested in, it grates on me so much because he has to ruin it with his know it all bullshit.

For all his current complaining about Trump, there's very little difference between him and Trump personality-wise.

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46 minutes ago, Tom Holmberg said:

For all his current complaining about Trump, there's very little difference between him and Trump personality-wise.

Or voting wise. Joe acts like people can’t look up his recoed and see he’s one of the reasons the Far Right even exists. He was in the wave that normalised this current situation of evangelical Christian politics. 

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8 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

Or voting wise. Joe acts like people can’t look up his recoed and see he’s one of the reasons the Far Right even exists. He was in the wave that normalised this current situation of evangelical Christian politics. 

Joe doesn't understand how the internet works. Remember he wanted Phil Griffin to do something about Google searches for him. They kept coming up with bad stuff and he wanted it changed. 

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17 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

He was in the wave that normalised this current situation of evangelical Christian politics.

Many of the Never Trumpers are in the same category. They seem to forget they nominated Sarah Palin to being a heartbeat away from the Presidency,

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Mika just said there are now 22 Democrat candidates for President.   That's nuts.  They're dividing/diluting any message, drowning each other out,  and making the party look fractured and disorganized

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1 hour ago, millennium said:

making the party look fractured and disorganized

While I agree that most of them who are running have no chance and aren't even going to get name recognition out of their effort, the party looks fractured and disorganized because the news media keeps saying this makes the party look fractured and disorganized.  In reality most people aren't really paying attention. Right now the polls basically reflect name recognition, except for Mayor Pete, who has an interesting story.

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45 minutes ago, millennium said:

Only Mayor Pete seems to have a spark of vitality.

Pete was on Fallon last night, they Slow Jammed the News it was pretty funny, and he did a bit pre show about Fallon making fun of him, he has pretty good comedy chops.  I think they showed some of it on MJ this morning. 

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I actually thought today's show, with Meeks and Willie , was far better than when "I know it all" Joe is on. I must say, the writers who were talking about their new books were interesting, and I want to read both of them. The international news is quite scary, IMHO. I swear, from what I have read about Bolton, he wants to go to war with half the nations on Earth for regime changes. And now it appears that trump is listening to his advice. Of course, it's okay that North Korea is shooting off missiles, because trump "fell in love" with Kim Jong Un....and is "with him". How foolish we must look to our allies.....those who are still..... "with us".😟

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9 hours ago, millennium said:

Mika just said there are now 22 Democrat candidates for President.   That's nuts.  They're dividing/diluting any message, drowning each other out,  and making the party look fractured and disorganized

And the thing is, I don't even think they're done yet and there's probably someone else waiting to get into the presidential race.  I mean, hell, I might as well run.  I make damn good biscuits. 

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5 hours ago, stormy said:

I hope the Democrats aren't as clueless as Eugene Robinson seems to think.

Ignoring the Senate is dangerous territory IMO

They were suggesting on the show this morning that O'Rourke and Bullock could do more good by racking up Senate wins than running for President (which in all likelihood is a dead end).   The Democrats seem in desperate need of a general to give everyone their marching orders, and then they need everyone to fall in line.  

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32 minutes ago, millennium said:

They were suggesting on the show this morning that O'Rourke and Bullock could do more good by racking up Senate wins than running for President (which in all likelihood is a dead end).   The Democrats seem in desperate need of a general to give everyone their marching orders, and then they need everyone to fall in line.  

It's surprising that the Democratic Presidential Candidates don't listen to Joe Scarborough. He thinks he is best placed to advice them.

Joe has already proclaimed that the race is over & that Joe Biden will be the nominee based on a few polls.

Democrats could save money  by cancelling the nomination process & acclaiming Joe Biden.

Furthemore, the DNC could allow Mika & Joe to give the keynote addresses at the convention next summer as a reward for their sage advice.

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11 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe has already proclaimed that the race is over & that Joe Biden will be the nominee based on a few polls.

Ahem, Joe?

2008: Hillary Clinton. 

I'm sure we have footage of you declaring that Barack Obama should drop out. 

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46 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Ahem, Joe?

2008: Hillary Clinton. 

I'm sure we have footage of you declaring that Barack Obama should drop out. 

2016 should be enough reason why a winner better not be declared today. 

If Joe's been touting that, honestly, Joe, shut up. 

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1 hour ago, stormy said:

2016 should be enough reason why a winner better not be declared today. 

If Joe's been touting that, honestly, Joe, shut up. 

Joe has made it clear that he will be very upset with  Democrats unless they listen to his latest prognostications.

The Red Sox has yet to apologize to Joe for not staying away from the White House ceremony .

Joe said only a few white players should have shown up for the ceremony.

Joe was busy today on twitter. He found out that Trump made a racist comment in 1991.

This will doom the Trump Presidency. All Hail Joe!

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2 hours ago, oakville said:

It's surprising that the Democratic Presidential Candidates don't listen to Joe Scarborough. He thinks he is best placed to advice them.

Scarborough's a blowhard, but he has a common sense approach to elections (at least his TV persona does) and I find myself agreeing with him more than I would like.

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16 hours ago, millennium said:

The Democrats seem in desperate need of a general to give everyone their marching orders, and then they need everyone to fall in line.  

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat." -Will Rogers.

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I have so many questions for that guy who just talked about Roe being unconstitutional, because “The right to privacy doesn’t exist in the Constitution.”  My main one is: if the right to privacy doesn’t exist in the Constitution, does that mean HIPAA laws are also unconstitutional?

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47 minutes ago, revbfc said:

I have so many questions for that guy who just talked about Roe being unconstitutional, because “The right to privacy doesn’t exist in the Constitution.”  My main one is: if the right to privacy doesn’t exist in the Constitution, does that mean HIPAA laws are also unconstitutional?

The right to privacy is most often cited in the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment, which states: ... The court ruled in 1969 that the right to privacy protected a person's right to possess and view pornography in his own home.

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17 hours ago, oakville said:

Democrats could save money  by cancelling the nomination process & acclaiming Joe Biden.

Yeah, that worked well with Hillary Clinton in 2016.

15 hours ago, oakville said:

Joe was busy today on twitter. He found out that Trump made a racist comment in 1991.

I'm pretty sure Joe made a racist comment yesterday.

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