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Discussion of the hosts regarding a specific episode is fine here, but generalized discussion of the hosts go in the The Hosts Thread: Joe and Mika Know Their Value. 

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I have to disagree with y'all.  While I do think Mika thinks there is some electricity between the two, I honestly doubt he's ever once considered her a viably sexual human in any regard.  I think he looks at her as an annoying means to an end.

After this comes to a close, I could see him and Stephanie Ruehl taking over Joe and Mika's spot.  And Joe and Mika sitting in their grumpy morning bed with chickens everywhere, both watching The Stephanie and Avenatti Show, both lusting over the hosts, regretting their decisions.

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I just looked up pics of Jim Hoffer (Mika's ex). Wow, he really does look like Avenatti.  She left him for Joe?   No wonder she's making googoo eyes at Avenatti. 

Memories, light the corners of my mind.

Misty water color memories, of the way we were. 

I was married, to a decent handsome man,

now I'm sitting next to Joey, wish he'd wash off that stupid tan

Can it be that it was simpler then,

or has time rewritten every line

If I had the chance to do it all again

Yes, I'm a shallow bitch, and Joe scratched my itch. 

Memories may be beautiful and yet

If I'm with my little Joey, look at all the stuff I get...

22 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

While I do think Mika thinks there is some electricity between the two, I honestly doubt he's ever once considered her a viably sexual human in any regard.  I think he looks at her as an annoying means to an end.

I agree, he wouldn't give her the time of day. He's playing her probably just to fuck with Joe. 

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22 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

I just watched the one on Facebook.  She compares pestering barnyard animals until they scream in objection to teaching woman to speak up so they know their value?  Seriously you can't make this shit up.

I watched the Facebook live. Could not find the Instagrams. The fact that Joe is willing to live with a pig wandering around the kitchen proves to me that he truly is whipped.

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2 hours ago, Landsnark said:

I have to disagree with y'all.  While I do think Mika thinks there is some electricity between the two, I honestly doubt he's ever once considered her a viably sexual human in any regard.  I think he looks at her as an annoying means to an end.

Well I, for one, never suggested that he's interested in her, just that she seems to be kind of smitten with him.

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On a less shallow note (although I do love me some Avenatti!), did anyone else pick up on the fact that that reporter, Carol whats-her-face, kept referring to UN Ambassador Nikki Haley solely by her first name, as in, "Nikki"? She even had to stop and correct herself at one point.

Methinks someone is a little too cozy with her source.

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5 hours ago, teddysmom said:

I just looked up pics of Jim Hoffer (Mika's ex). Wow, he really does look like Avenatti.  She left him for Joe?   No wonder she's making googoo eyes at Avenatti. 

Once you see it you can't unsee it.

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Wow.  I just googled Jim Hoffer and unless he's a combination serial killer/rapist, and a nasty piece of work, I can't for the life of me figure out why she left him for Joe. 

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5 hours ago, cased said:

I watched the Facebook live. Could not find the Instagrams. The fact that Joe is willing to live with a pig wandering around the kitchen proves to me that he truly is whipped.

It took me days to recover after seeing her holding that un-diapered pig while she was cooking. Wondering how many piggy "accidents" have happened in that kitchen? Ick and yuck.

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Willie and Kasie report that Trump sniped at Stormy's composite sketch on twitter this morning and received these in return from Avenatti (which they enjoyed reading):

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FBI search warrants uncovering EXISTING documents and recordings showing con job after con job pulled on REAL people and very REAL American citizens (who didn’t know it). Welcome to the playing field. #whereyoubeen #basta

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In my experience, there is nothing better in litigation than having a completely unhinged, undisciplined opponent who is prone to shooting himself in the foot. Always leads to BIGLY problems…like new claims (i.e. defamation). LOL. #xmas #hanukkah #basta

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22 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Rachel had the McClatchy reporter on last night, he said they had at least two sources, and had worked on the story for around three months.

I'm hedging because I was half paying attention, so it could be more sources and more months. But it's a solid story.

I don't get Joe and his wavering back and forth with support of Trump's minions. Pick a lane, Doucheborough. 

Would it be considered lying to your viewers when you claim during your interviews with Trump you ask him hard question and don't hold back, and then it's confirmed you're schmoozing with him at Mar A Lago, feeding him questions pre interview, et al, which had to be disclosed thru other outlets? Is that considered lying, Joe? Asking for a friend. 

I loved Avenatti's "I know you've criticized me off air Joe", comment. As in, knock off the bullshit, just admit you were wrong.  Also I could have your girlfriend if I wanted to. 

Ha!. I missed watching he rest of the show since I went to a double header basebll game yesterday. This rarely happens in Toronto. We have a domed stadium but ice crashed through the roof.

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Wednesday recap. Morning Willie with Kasie!. This is an exciting day. Mika & Joe have the morning off. Eddie, Barnicle. Noah Rothman, & the Bush Historian in the Library:)

First topic is the passing of Baraabara Bush. She was a nice lady & as sarcastic. The Usa has had enough of the Bushes.

Everyone liked her because she was sassy.

It's the end of an era.

Next topic. Haley vs Kudlow. Haley said she is not confused about Russian sanctions.

Everyone like Nikki because she won't put up with the men speaking for her.

Kasie! made fun of the lack of a lightning bolt . Then she got zapped but she was a good sport.

Catty Eyes Katy came on the show to talk about Nikki. She looked scary. New makeup person.?

Everyone gets to talk on the panel. I will save his show on my DVR. Kasie should  be a permanent co host on Morning Joe. Mika can become a reality star with her chickens.

Willie is funny . He mocked the Stormy Daniels sketch of her ex boyfriend who threatened her.

Noah said Trump should not retweet Deplorable sketch.

Every one loves Michael Avenatti!. Joe must be furious & taking off his glasses and yelling at Mika

Jon Meacham is trying to find historical references to Stormy Daniels.

Bush Sr was more classy thatn Trump. he never tweeted about porn stars.

Willie & Kasie are a good couple.! It's an easy going show.

28 minutes ago, novhappy said:

Kasie’s hair is perfection!

Agreed & Kasie's! black top looks amazing.

11 hours ago, Ohwell said:

Wow.  I just googled Jim Hoffer and unless he's a combination serial killer/rapist, and a nasty piece of work, I can't for the life of me figure out why she left him for Joe. 

Joe saved her career & made her a multi millionaire.

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My wife and I said at the same time, "oh, she's CUTE.  Her hair is great."  Was super weird.   The TV loves some Kasie.

Barbara Bush was a strong, decent person.  But, let's not white wash things, shall we?  Her commencement speech at Wellesley is horrifying, not admirable.  "Stay in your lane, women," isn't terrific advice to young graduates about to hit the work force.  Would she tell young men graduating from Harvard to not go kill it on Wall Street, but instead stay home and appreciate being a husband and father instead of defending the US, starting a company, making your mark in the world? 

Zoiks.  Peggy Noonan is a GD chameleon, isn't she?  Her stylist this morning deserves a gigantic raise and an extra story about how erotic it can be sitting on Reagan's lap.
Most of the time I want to karate chop Noonan in the neck, but this morning she looks really good.   (Meh, never mind.  She just spoke too much and now i want to karate chop her)

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18 minutes ago, Landsnark said:



Barbara Bush was a strong, decent person.  But, let's not white wash things, shall we?  Her commencement speech at Wellesley is horrifying, not admirable.  "Stay in your lane, women," isn't terrific advice to young graduates about to hit the work force.  Would she tell young men graduating from Harvard to not go kill it on Wall Street, but instead stay home and appreciate being a husband and father instead of defending the US, starting a company, making your mark in the world? 

 

I can't think of a blander topic than Barbara Bush.   If aliens were trying to read my mind I would fill my head with images of Barbara Bush to make them recoil in sheer boredom.

Remember when Babs was asked about the potential deaths of US soldiers on the eve of the Iraq War?  

But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it’s gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it’s, it’s not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?

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12 hours ago, Ohwell said:

Wow.  I just googled Jim Hoffer and unless he's a combination serial killer/rapist, and a nasty piece of work, I can't for the life of me figure out why she left him for Joe. 

$$$$$$$.   She may not know her 'worth', but she sure knows Joe's.

ETA - I just googled Hoffer and you guys are right.  He could be Avenatti's (older) brother.  Meek-a's little crush on MA must drive Squinty crazy.  I love it. 

Also - any theories on why the lovebirds are MIA this today?  I have never seen show hosts who who don't show up for their own show more often than these two.  What the f*ck is up with that??

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34 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

 

Also - any theories on why the lovebirds are MIA this today?  I have never seen show hosts who who don't show up for their own show more often than these two.  What the f*ck is up with that??

On the Facebook live  that Mika did on Monday, she said that Joe’s chickens were going to move in with Mika’s chickens this week, so maybe today is moving day. 

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8 minutes ago, cased said:

On the Facebook live  that Mika did on Monday, she said that Joe’s chickens were going to move in with Mika’s chickens this week, so maybe today is moving day. 

I hope you're kidding  ?

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1 hour ago, Ladyrain said:

$$$$$$$.   She may not know her 'worth', but she sure knows Joe's.

ETA - I just googled Hoffer and you guys are right.  He could be Avenatti's (older) brother.  Meek-a's little crush on MA must drive Squinty crazy.  I love it. 

Also - any theories on why the lovebirds are MIA this today?  I have never seen show hosts who who don't show up for their own show more often than these two.  What the f*ck is up with that??

 

Perhaps they are flying to Texas for Barbara Bush family 

1 hour ago, cased said:

On the Facebook live  that Mika did on Monday, she said that Joe’s chickens were going to move in with Mika’s chickens this week, so maybe today is moving day. 

I am convinced that Mika & Joe will star in the 2019 Green Actes remake.

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I know we aren't supposed to speak ill of the dead, but the tributes to Barbara Bush are a little nauseating, considering the awful things she said during her life, as noted above. 

"the love of my life", GHW Bush. Guess that doesn't include Jennifer Fitzgerald, his personal assistant whom he had an affair with for years, who was supposed to be a dead ringer for Barbara.

(Friend who used to manage the Talbots in DC would see her shopping in there.)  

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I just looked up pics of Jim Hoffer (Mika's ex). Wow, he really does look like Avenatti.  She left him for Joe?   No wonder she's making googoo eyes at Avenatti. 

You guys are often prone to exaggeration (I say this with love) so I Googled him.  Holy Shite!!  He's like an Avenatti Doppelganger.

 

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After this comes to a close, I could see him and Stephanie Ruehl taking over Joe and Mika's spot.  And Joe and Mika sitting in their grumpy morning bed with chickens everywhere, both watching The Stephanie and Avenatti Show, both lusting over the hosts, regretting their decisions.

Yes!!  And when they say Mika's name there will be a chicken squack noise  and when they say Joe's name there will be a voice-over mini excerpt of Dr z calling him "Stunningly superficial."

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25 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

I hope you're kidding  ?

I was sort of kidding, but with these two you never know. 

I wasn’t kidding about the chickens moving, though. I wonder if Mika will do a Facebook live after the chicken merger. 

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23 minutes ago, WhineandCheez said:

You guys are often prone to exaggeration (I say this with love) so I Googled him.  Holy Shite!!  He's like an Avenatti Doppelganger.

The resemblance has long been a key component in my conspiracy theory surrounding Joe's unusual dislike of Avenatti and Mika's former banishment from the topic. Lol

13 hours ago, Ohwell said:

Wow.  I just googled Jim Hoffer and unless he's a combination serial killer/rapist, and a nasty piece of work, I can't for the life of me figure out why she left him for Joe. 

He seems like a nice guy when he's on TV. That's more than one can say about Joe. ?‍♀️

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I'm glad Joe & Mika weren't there today so I didn't have to listen (which I wouldn't have anyway) to Joe blather on about what a great lady Barbara Bush was.  

What kills me is the panel and all media talks to former WH staff and they know the stories of how cruel she could be. She was a wealthy woman who did charity work to show what a great lady she was, but she would insult friends at social gatherings, commenting on how much they were eating, or that they were overweight, like she was one to talk, her staff was terrified of her, one said I guess she could be called a a good person but she sure wasn't a nice person.  There are stories about her as a teenager being the leader of the group she hung with, and she'd announce "We're not talking to her today", and they'd all freeze one girl out.

The 1940s version of Mean Girls.  

And no one mentions the 1984 campaign when she said of Geraldine Ferraro "We're wealthy, not like that four million dollar 'rhymes with rich'."  Lovely. 

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3 hours ago, oakville said:

Perhaps they are flying to Texas for Barbara Bush family 

I hope it's something honorable like that, rather than a lovers' spat, or relocating chickens, or eloping.

Are they (together or separately) that close to the Bush family?

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Joe is tweeting about her and how classy she was.

Yeah calling your husband's opponent's running mate a bitch is REAL CLASSY.  Yelling at your staff on AF2 about  them snacking on chips or junk food and that they're all fat, that is one classy dame.  

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12 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

I hope it's something honorable like that, rather than a lovers' spat, or relocating chickens, or eloping.

Are they (together or separately) that close to the Bush family?

I think Joe was/is close to Jeb(!)? They were both up on social media around midnight last night so I assumed they'd be gone this morning. I guess it could be Bush related, but let's be real, it's almost assuredly The Great Chicken Relocation of April '18.

ETA: The messy side of me hopes they eloped right after Michael Avenatti left the studio. ?

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1 hour ago, Ladyrain said:

I hope it's something honorable like that, rather than a lovers' spat, or relocating chickens, or eloping.

Are they (together or separately) that close to the Bush family?

Yes. They used to visit kennebunkport Maine

1 hour ago, XOQueens said:

I think Joe was/is close to Jeb(!)? They were both up on social media around midnight last night so I assumed they'd be gone this morning. I guess it could be Bush related, but let's be real, it's almost assuredly The Great Chicken Relocation of April '18.

ETA: The messy side of me hopes they eloped right after Michael Avenatti left the studio. ?

Joe met his second wife through Jeb. She worked for jeb when he was Governor 

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I don't think it would be a Bush-related absence. Even if they did holiday in the same spot in Maine, and Joe did meet Wife Nr. 2 through Jeb!, it doesn't make sense they'd need to be down in Texas the next day. They aren't family, they aren't helping with funeral arrangements. 

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I liked the Barbara Bush talk this morning. Like her or not, it was the sad reminder of the current occupants and everything low class about them. At least, IMO, Mrs. Bush was a respectable first lady.

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3 hours ago, stormy said:

I liked the Barbara Bush talk this morning. Like her or not, it was the sad reminder of the current occupants and everything low class about them. At least, IMO, Mrs. Bush was a respectable first lady.

Agreed. Although , i would say that Melanie is better behaved than Donald Trump.

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Thursday Recap. Day 2 of Willie & Kasie!. Yes!. I love the new show. It's the same cronies on the panel. Josh Earnest is a KC Royals fan. Ha!. I just went to the baseball game yesterday & the Blue Jays crushed the evil Royals 15-5. The Royals beat the Jays in the ALCS playoffs in 2015.

Kasie! looks lovely in her black & white top. The makeup artisyt ruined Elise Jordan's mascara.

Elise & Richard Haas got into a spat over KimYoung Jun 's plane. He can't fly anywhere because the plane might crash. Haas said someone can lend him a plane to fly to Switzerland.

Barnicle is tired of Trump. Barnicle is worried about the Constitution. Willie said wait till the end of the movie.

It was a very good discussion today without the hosts interrupting the guests.

The panel is worried about the 8 GOP Senators running this fall.

Elise is becoming too one note.  She is always worried about the GOP.There are more Senate Democrats running for re election.

The Senate Democrat in Montana, Missouri & W Virginia are vulnerable.

 

Another Playboy Model, McDougall  wants to speak out about her affair with Trump

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

Kasie! looks lovely in her black & white top. The makeup artisyt ruined Elise Jordan's mascara.

I wish Kasie would switch up the black and white.  She seems to wear that color combo all the time.  She has a stark white jacket/blazer she's been wearing all winter.

TBS I do like her with Willie.  Is this a foreshadowing of things to come? 

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Elise needs to take the advice of Coco Chanel via Katherine Parker in "Working Girl."  "Dress shabbily, they notice the dress. Dress impeccably, they notice the woman."  Nearly every side shot made noticeable the rolls on her back and fleshy upper arms.  (I'm sorry, I don't mean to be catty, but seems like if she wants her appearance to be noticed, it should be for more complimentary reasons.) 

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21 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Joe is tweeting about her and how classy she was.

Yeah calling your husband's opponent's running mate a bitch is REAL CLASSY.  Yelling at your staff on AF2 about  them snacking on chips or junk food and that they're all fat, that is one classy dame.  

Or sniping that Hurricane Katrina victims being warehoused in the Houston Astrodome (after losing their homes and all their possessions) were insufficiently “grateful” for Texas’s largesse.

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I was unaware of what a hateful woman Barbara Bush was.

Kasie's outfit is kind of a rookie mistake.  It added nothing to her, and it was too noticeable somehow.  The only thing I recall from the show is that she and Willie hosted and she wore a distracting top.  I also just don't like severe black and white.
 

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1 hour ago, navelgazer said:

Nearly every side shot made noticeable the rolls on her back and fleshy upper arms.  (I'm sorry, I don't mean to be catty, but seems like if she wants her appearance to be noticed, it should be for more complimentary reasons.) 

I noticed it too. It's because the dress was too small. If getting the dress altered so it fits better isn't an option, wear dark colors on air so the back isn't that noticeable. Or get a bra that fits and doesn't cut into you. 

Unless you have Linda Hamilton arms from Terminator 2, if you sit with your arms pressed to your side like that, it's not a great look.  

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

I wish Kasie would switch up the black and white.  She seems to wear that color combo all the time.  She has a stark white jacket/blazer she's been wearing all winter.

TBS I do like her with Willie.  Is this a foreshadowing of things to come? 

I would be excited with Kasie & Willie. Joe & MikA have jumped the shark

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23 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

I don't care much for Morning Willie (tehe). Turns out I miss the #joeandmika crazy when it's not around. 

It’s like watching a car accident waiting to happen

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8 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

This is like a kiss from Baby Jesus.   

2 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

Mika apparently Tweeted and deleted about it:

Kiss from Baby Jesus, playing with puppies and meeting Michelle Obama.

That's how happy I am right now!!! 

10 minutes ago, oakville said:

It’s like watching a car accident waiting to happen

If I want that much stress in the morning, I can watch The Americans.  At least I know Keri & Matthew really love each other IRL and aren't actually helping a stooge for Russia take down the country. 

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If Mika and Joe can't be bothered to show up, turn this over to Kasie. She's so much better on her own.

Willie's just taking up space. He's too stiff and he just has no spunk to be in the driver's seat. Joe's a combative ass but at least he's lively.

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On 2018-04-17 at 7:48 PM, Ohwell said:

Wow.  I just googled Jim Hoffer and unless he's a combination serial killer/rapist, and a nasty piece of work, I can't for the life of me figure out why she left him for Joe. 

He’s sure good looking.  I can’t figure it out either.

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22 minutes ago, stormy said:

Willie's just taking up space. He's too stiff and he just has no spunk to be in the driver's seat. Joe's a combative ass but at least he's lively.

Craig Melvin, if they need a man.   Or Kasie could do it herself, she handles 2 hours on sunday alone. 

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