All Episodes Talk: Walk With Me

[ProudMary]

From And It's Surely to Their Credit:

General Barrie: I'll be telling my story to Tim Russert.

CJ Cregg: No, I don't think you will, General.

General Barrie: I'm sorry?

CJ Cregg: I said I don't think you will. I notice among your many decorations is the Distinguished Conduct Service Medal. You're wearing it now as well as in numerous photographs including some taken with enlisted men in the field. You won it while on temporary duty with the Navy's USS Brook. The thing is: The Brook was never fired on and never shot its guns. Right now, and in photographs, you're wearing a medal you never won. How does that usually go over with The Boys?

[lurkerbee]

Farewell, Albie Duncan.

[BlackberryJam]

5 minutes ago, lurkerbee said:

Farewell, Albie Duncan.

You're the one I like. 

[PeterPirate]

[CheshireCat]

The West Wing is currently keeping me company while I decorate cookies (I really appreciate that the show's focus is the dialogue rather than the action) and I watched Election Night and Process Stories last night and it struck me that after Abby was so mad at her husband for running for a second term because of his MS, she seems totally fine with him drinking alcohol hours after he had an MS attack. From what I know from my best friend, he should also have gotten a cortisone injection for the inflammation but even if he didn't because he didn't want anyone to know and it was only a mild attack, I doubt that he would have been up for the kind of celebration he and Abby were having. It was as if the symptoms of the attack had magically disappeared in just a couple of hours. And he shouldn't have been drinking either way. A sip of champagne maybe, but vodka? I don't think so.

Also, that they killed off Simon gets me every time. I don't know if Mark Harmon was starting NCIS and couldn't have stayed but I liked the chemistry between them and CJ really would have deserved to have a guy like Simon.

And I just adore the song they're closing the S3 finale with.

[CheshireCat]

I didn't watch West Wing when it first aired, but watching the episodes now, the Hoynes thing seems totally random. Was there a reason they wrote out Tim Matheson/Hoynes or did they simply do it so the Speaker becomes later President?

At the end of S4 when Zoe goes to France, Bartlet is portrayed as the over-protective father when it comes to Secret Service protection but I kind of understand: there was a shooting, then an agent gets killed and then his daughter gets abducted. That must be the worst performance by the Secret Service ever or someone within the agency really doesn't like Bartlet. If I were him, I probably wouldn't be sure if I can trust the agents either 😉
In all seriousness though, I find it hard to believe that all of that happens and no one would blame the Secret Service and demand leadership change.

If the Bartlet team has a freak-out about the Speaker becoming Acting President, why does not a single one of them insist that he be referred to as Acting President (which he is). The Speaker is just discharging the duties of the President as Acting President, so if the Bartlet team is so concerned about the optics, each time the Speaker is referred to as President, they should yell back Acting President. (Which could have been fun, if done right).

Why is the Republican legislative leadership meeting in the White House to discuss who becomes the next Speaker? Wouldn't they do that in their offices since the Acting President shouldn't have a say in that? (Interestingly enough, when they dealt with the line of succession on Madam Secretary, they said that the President Pro Tempore would resume his position once his time as Acting President was over. I wonder if it's different for Senators or if it's not entirely clear what would happen).

I never know what to make of the Acting President. On the one hand, he seems opportunistic and trigger happy, on the other hand, he's sympathetic in so far, that he would not hesitate to avenge Zoe's death. He's a weird guy/character.

I always love the talk Toby has with his twins. It's so heartfelt and real. And I don't know why but his "babies come with hats" always makes me laugh.

I also always feel that the kidnapping story was not a good choice. It put a rift between Bartlet and Abby, or at least, it feels like that to me, and there's the entire aftermath that they have to deal with and that, I think, weighs the show down. I know that it's said that Rob Lowe leaving/Joshua Malina coming on to the show is what was the beginning of the end but as someone who didn't watch it originally, I'd say it was the kidnapping story. It just changed things, took away things that sort of tied it all together, like the fun scenes between Abby and whoever she had a scene with. And even if I think that Zoe is a spoiled brat in S4, she, too, brought some lightness to the show as her scenes hardly ever were political.

Oh, and completely irrelevant but why is it already/still dark at 6:30 in DC in what I'm assuming would be late spring?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, CheshireCat said:

I never know what to make of the Acting President. On the one hand, he seems opportunistic and trigger happy, on the other hand, he's sympathetic in so far, that he would not hesitate to avenge Zoe's death. He's a weird guy/character

I think they do with him what they do with a lot of the opposing characters- you bear about him and how bad he is and you see some examples that back that opinion up. But then they also show a little of his perspective or ways that he’s not completely wrong and you realize your initial view was formed completely by his opposition.

[Moose135]

On 2/21/2021 at 5:10 AM, CheshireCat said:

I didn't watch West Wing when it first aired, but watching the episodes now

Let's forget the fact that you're coming a little late to the party and embrace the fact that you showed up at all.

 

On 2/21/2021 at 5:10 AM, CheshireCat said:

I always love the talk Toby has with his twins. It's so heartfelt and real. And I don't know why but his "babies come with hats" always makes me laugh.

I love that scene!

 

On 2/21/2021 at 5:10 AM, CheshireCat said:

I also always feel that the kidnapping story was not a good choice.

Sorkin was on his way out - whether willingly or not is open to debate - and it may have been his farewell gift to the network.

[Guest]

I'm curious where others fall on this question - what are the worst three West Wing episodes? 

My personal 3:

1) 90 Miles Away

2) Access

3) The Warfare of Genghis Khan

There are other episodes I don't like but will generally watch because they set up other episodes, but these ones I find myself skipping just about every time.

[Bastet]

On 2/21/2021 at 2:10 AM, CheshireCat said:

I always love the talk Toby has with his twins. It's so heartfelt and real. And I don't know why but his "babies come with hats" always makes me laugh.

I didn't like the Andi/Toby/pregnancy storyline, but I loved the line delivery on "babies come with hats".

2 hours ago, deaja said:

I'm curious where others fall on this question - what are the worst three West Wing episodes?

1. Isaac and Ishmael
2. Isaac and Ishmael
3. Isaac and Ishmael

[CheshireCat]

3 hours ago, Bastet said:

I didn't like the Andi/Toby/pregnancy storyline, but I loved the line delivery on "babies come with hats".

Yeah, it was one of those things that I felt was completely random.

It's interesting, the first time I watched, I watched in order but sporadically and I thought I missed some things. Now that I'm more or less binge-watching, I realize that some things simply just happened and I didn't miss anything.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Bastet said:

6 hours ago, deaja said:

 

1. Isaac and Ishmael
2. Isaac and Ishmael
3. Isaac and Ishmael

Okay. You win. I don’t even count that as an episode because it is so bad. 

[SandyToes]

On 12/11/2020 at 4:21 PM, SoMuchTV said:

am rereading From The Mixed Up Files of Mrs Basil E Frankweiler, set in about 1967, and the main character is a girl named Claudia, who has 3 brothers. She definitely grew up to be Claudia Jean, right?

Oh, my gosh!  That book!  My 4th grade teacher read that to us, and I loved it.  (Have read it many times since, and fell in love with art history). And yes, she absolutely DID grow up to be Claudia Jean! 

[PeterPirate]

On 2/13/2021 at 2:25 AM, CheshireCat said:

And I just adore the song they're closing the S3 finale with.

The show's pinnacle moment, in my opinion.

 

On 2/22/2021 at 9:37 AM, deaja said:

I'm curious where others fall on this question - what are the worst three West Wing episodes? 

My personal 3:

1) 90 Miles Away

2) Access

3) The Warfare of Genghis Khan

I would replace Warfare of Genghis Khan with The Long Goodbye.  

 

On 2/13/2021 at 2:25 AM, CheshireCat said:

Also, that they killed off Simon gets me every time. I don't know if Mark Harmon was starting NCIS and couldn't have stayed but I liked the chemistry between them and CJ really would have deserved to have a guy like Simon.

As I understand it, Harmon's performance as Simon caught the attention of the creators of NCIS.  I suspect the same dynamic worked for Clark Gregg, who went from being Agent Casper on TWW to Agent Coulson in numerous movies and TV shows based on Marvel comics.

 

[Cetacean]

10 minutes ago, PeterPirate said:

The show's pinnacle moment, in my opinion.

 

A stunning finale, it has stayed with me all of these years.  Perfect writing, perfect juxtaposition of an assassination.

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, PeterPirate said:

I would replace Warfare of Genghis Khan with The Long Goodbye.  

Oh wait. This is an excellent point as well.

I'm going to go ahead and revise:

1) 90 Miles Away

2) Isaac and Ishmael

3) The Long Goodbye

[BlackberryJam]

I never enjoyed NSF Thurmont and the whole "The Mighty US can solve the problems of the Middle East!" storyline. 

[CheshireCat]

On 2/21/2021 at 7:47 AM, deaja said:

I think they do with him what they do with a lot of the opposing characters- you bear about him and how bad he is and you see some examples that back that opinion up. But then they also show a little of his perspective or ways that he’s not completely wrong and you realize your initial view was formed completely by his opposition.

I never noticed that. Although, I think for the Acting President, they're kind of going back and forth.

I do wonder if a former Acting President would really be included in presidential stuff like attending a former President's funeral together with all the other former and current presidents. Seems a bit over the top.

 

15 hours ago, deaja said:

3) The Long Goodbye

I didn't think it was a bad episode per se as in, the acting was good. It just wasn't necessary and had little to do with the White House. Did someone from the show want to raise awareness for Alzheimer's?

Likewise the MS of the President. There are times when I wonder why they gave him MS. Especially since there are episodes when it feels like they only did superficial research and didn't bother with the more in-depth details.

[Guest]

17 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:

I never enjoyed NSF Thurmont and the whole "The Mighty US can solve the problems of the Middle East!" storyline. 

I typically skip it.  It would probably make my "Worst 10" list, but doesn't quite make it into the "Worst 5."

[BlackberryJam]

4 hours ago, deaja said:

I typically skip it.  It would probably make my "Worst 10" list, but doesn't quite make it into the "Worst 5."

Isn't that the problem of a "Worst Episodes" list? Those are just the ones I've skipped on rewatch and attempted to banish from my memory.

[Guest]

Okay, let's do worst per season instead. That might be easier.  

Season 1: 20 Hours in LA (I do like and watch this episode, but Season 1 is so full of great episodes!)

Season 2: The Stackhouse Filibuster - the whole premise was so ridiculous

Season 3: Isaac and Ishmael and I don't think I need to elaborate

Season 4: The Long Goodbye

Season 5: Gaza or Access, though there are several other contenders

Season 6: Ninety Miles Away

Season 7: The Wedding

[PeterPirate]

1 hour ago, deaja said:

Okay, let's do worst per season instead. That might be easier.  

Season 1: 20 Hours in LA (I do like and watch this episode, but Season 1 is so full of great episodes!)

Season 2: The Stackhouse Filibuster - the whole premise was so ridiculous

Season 7: The Wedding

Season 1:  Mandatory Minimums.  

Season 2:  The Stackhouse Filibuster.  I still watch it since it is the first of six episodes that I consider to be the best multi-episode arc of the series.  

Season 7:  The Debate.   

[BlackberryJam]

1 hour ago, PeterPirate said:

Season 1:  Mandatory Minimums.  

Season 2:  The Stackhouse Filibuster.  I still watch it since it is the first of six episodes that I consider to be the best multi-episode arc of the series.  

Season 7:  The Debate.   

I'd banished the existence of The Debate from my mind. 

[Featherhat]

The Stackhouse Fillibuster is ridiculous but I got a lot of warm fuzzies when I used to watch it as a tween and a couple of years ago on a rewatch. Even though it doesn't make much sense I still love it for the ending when all the Senators walk on to the floor to help out. For a long time I thought Filibusters were always used for noble or at least understandable reasons! (oops). 

Although there's one line that I always remember was an eye roll even then "Stackhouse would have to know as much about Senate procedure as Josh and that was unlikely". He was a 20 year senator who had planned this filibuster, you don't think he knew the rules especially of this specific thing, better than Josh and Donna who had never been senators?

[CheshireCat]

For me, it's episode arcs that I don't like rather than the episodes themselves. The ones I like the least are the Zoe kidnapping story, the Gaza story and the solving the Israel-Palestine conflict episode.

[Eeksquire]

Oh God, I cannot remember the episode title because I skip it everytime, but: when Toby decides to save Social Security because he figures some Senator isn't running for reelection. Yikes. And yawn.

[ProudMary]

From "Enemies Foreign and Domestic"
Claudia Jean 'C.J.' Cregg: Outraged? I'm barely surprised. This is a country where women aren't allowed to drive a car. They're not allowed to be in the company of any man other than a close relative, they're required to adhere to a dress code that would make the Maryknoll Nun look like Malibu Barbie. They beheaded 121 people last year for robbery, rape, and drug trafficking, they've no free press, no elected government, no political parties, and the royal family allows the religious police to travel in groups of six, carrying nightsticks and they freely and publicly beat women. But "Brutus is an honorable man." Seventeen schoolgirls were forced to burn alive because they weren't wearing the proper clothing. Am I outraged? No, Steve. No Chris. No, Mark. That is Saudi Arabia, our partners in peace. Bonnie, then Scott.

Edited February 27, 2021 by ProudMary
Added episode title from which the quote was taken.

[CheshireCat]

I've reached the end of S6. It's interesting that the Republicans have been the "enemy" throughout the show but they've created such a likeable Republican candidate for President. Was that a result of the change of showrunners or did they do that because they thought this would make it less obvious that Santos would win?

It's strange that while Vineck considers his VP no one points out that if he brings in a moderate Democrat he may not need the conservative Republican base because he'll probably get the majority of the Independent vote and a healthy amount of the moderate Democrat vote, too. Of course, if he'd nominated a Democrat as VP, none of the Democratic candidates would have stood a realistic chance, so he couldn't nominate a Democrat. Still, I think someone on his team should have brought that up for consideration.

[PeterPirate]

"One egg is an oeuf".

"I'm ensorcelled".

Two classic West Wing lines that Aaron Sorkin used in The Trial of the Chicago 7, for which he won the Golden Globe for Best Screenplay.  

 

[CheshireCat]

After the discussion, I paid close attention to the leaker story. I don't believe CJ did it. I believe she was a red herring. First, she's the obvious choice. Second, she had numerous phone calls to the reporter in question and if she then leaked the story to him, she would be more than stupid and she's not. Third, she's genuinely surprised when she realizes she's the suspect. Yes, this is a show and this is acting but they also get directions from the director and CJ isn't an actor, so if she did it, I think she should have reacted differently. Likewise, when Toby asks if she's got a lawyer.
And, lastly, she's hesitant about the pardon. I don't think she would have been so hesitant about the pardon if she had been the leaker. Of course, it would have still been difficult for her to bring it up with the President but she told others that she doesn't even know if she should bring it up and if she had done it, I think she would have said something along the lines of she wants to because Toby has been a loyal member of the team up until then or something along those lines. I also think that she would have tried to push the President into signing the pardon if she had done it. I'm not even sure she would have allowed Toby to take the fall had she done it. He wasn't facing a slap on the wrist, he was facing jail time. I don't think she is the kind of person who would have let the father of two children go to jail for something she had done.

Also, there's a scene between her and Danny when she wants to leak him a story and he refuses because he thinks she'll regret it the moment he's out the door. Yes, characters can change but we haven't seen any indication that she changed in that regard.

There is also the scene between the President and Toby when the President tells Toby that CJ is the focus of the investigation, then Toby says they're wrong and the President says that they don't seem to see it that way. The President's words do something to Toby, there is not eye-contact and this whole scene feels like the President could know that it was Toby or at least, have an idea that it might have been him.

For a moment I wondered if Leo did it because CJ tells Toby that Leo is in trouble. But, again, if Leo did it, I believe CJ would not have hesitated about the pardon. I think the fact that she's so hesitant about the pardon is the strongest indicator at Toby truly being the actual leaker.

[Guest]

I don't think there is any way to wiggle around Toby being the leaker.  The only theory I've read that I think makes sense is if he was covering for his brother's widow.  Which, I don't think an astronaut's widow would have access to the reporter needed to leak it the way it was.  As much as I hate that plot line, I think in show universe, it only makes sense for it to be Toby.

[PeterPirate]

All I remember is that in one of the commentaries, two members of the production staff said they never wanted to think about two plotlines again:  Kazakhstan and the Shuttle Leak.  

And Santos only won because of an emergency at a nuclear power plant.  Diablo Ex Machina.  

Sigh.  Except for the last three, stellar episodes, Season 7 was a hot mess.  

[Simon Boccanegra]

On 2/25/2021 at 4:36 AM, CheshireCat said:

I didn't think ["The Long Goodbye"] was a bad episode per se as in, the acting was good. It just wasn't necessary and had little to do with the White House. Did someone from the show want to raise awareness for Alzheimer's?

I think it had more to do with the family history (father) of the playwright who wrote the episode. He wrote nothing else for The West Wing, so I assume he was a friendly peer of Sorkin's.  

That one came up recently in my first-ever complete rewatch of the series (now I'm slogging through season 5). I liked it less than I'd remembered. It was going to be a tough sell, because it was so unlike anything else in the series, not even being set in Washington. They had to nail it, and I don't think the script did that. Alzheimer's is not an unusual subject for drama, and it's been handled better elsewhere, before and after. We'd just barely heard about CJ's father before that, and the episode seemed rushed. This was understandable and necessary, but still so. We raced through all the obvious, familiar dementia scenes: Dad's forgetting things he should know in his first scene; in his second scene, he doesn't recognize CJ herself; then there's the obligatory doctor's visit; the car ride that turns perilous, etc. It was like a disease-of-the-week film compressed into 40-odd minutes. And the scenes with the love interest played by Matthew Modine did nothing for me.

Overall, it reminded me of those ER episodes with a single character on a trip to California, Mississippi, Africa, or wherever. Those were never my favorites.

[CheshireCat]

On 3/2/2021 at 12:55 PM, deaja said:

I don't think there is any way to wiggle around Toby being the leaker.  The only theory I've read that I think makes sense is if he was covering for his brother's widow.  Which, I don't think an astronaut's widow would have access to the reporter needed to leak it the way it was.  As much as I hate that plot line, I think in show universe, it only makes sense for it to be Toby.

I think one or two posters said a few pages back that they thought CJ had actually been the leaker, so I watched the story with that in mind because I hadn't been under the impression that she was and Toby was covering for her. I think if she hadn't been torn about the pardon, it would have been possible that it had been her but I think by making her torn about the pardon, they confirmed that it wasn't her or Leo and that she has no idea that it was someone else if Toby is supposed to be covering for someone.

I'm not a fan of that story either but I guess it was their way of reducing Schiff's hours. I would assume that they wanted to have all the actors on the final season but in order to do so, they all needed to have reduced hours on set. From how much they appear on the show, I would think that Schiff, Sheen and Spencer were the most expensive actors, hence, the once with the least amount of screen time.

On 3/4/2021 at 9:59 PM, PeterPirate said:

Sigh.  Except for the last three, stellar episodes, Season 7 was a hot mess.  

I could have done without the leaker story but other than that, I don't mind it so much. I like both candidates and I like that they did the campaign. I wish they had shown us more about the White House, too, because apart from the episode when CJ meets Danny again and he sort of pokes her, it seems that they barely did anything in the White House anymore other than play defense. It seems that they didn't even try to pass some of the stuff that they wanted to do. They started it with Leo who made a list but they never followed through on that which I think is a pity. However, I liked the candidates enough that I really would have liked to see the West Wing continued with the Santos administration (though maybe not with Josh as Chief of Staff, I don't know. But it could have been interesting if they had focused on foreign policy so that we would have seen interaction with Vineck. ETA: And I think it would also have been interesting if they had shown more of Helen, how she adjusts to her new role and what she chooses to do).

[oakville]

I would have liked to have the show continue with the Santos administration. I am a big fan of Alan Alda, so having Vinick spar with members of the Santos administration would have been very entertaining.

I do wish the how would have done more flashbacks on how Bartlett won the first election . IIRC they never showed the GOP nominee that he beat.

[Simon Boccanegra]

3 hours ago, CheshireCat said:

I could have done without the leaker story but other than that, I don't mind it so much. I like both candidates and I like that they did the campaign. I wish they had shown us more about the White House, too, because apart from the episode when CJ meets Danny again and he sort of pokes her, it seems that they barely did anything in the White House anymore other than play defense. It seems that they didn't even try to pass some of the stuff that they wanted to do. They started it with Leo who made a list but they never followed through on that which I think is a pity. However, I liked the candidates enough that I really would have liked to see the West Wing continued with the Santos administration (though maybe not with Josh as Chief of Staff, I don't know. But it could have been interesting if they had focused on foreign policy so that we would have seen interaction with Vineck. ETA: And I think it would also have been interesting if they had shown more of Helen, how she adjusts to her new role and what she chooses to do).

I've only seen the final two seasons once (I have "The Supremes" coming up in the Great West Wing Rewatch of '21), but I enjoyed the Santos/Vinick era first time around. We had seen some of the campaigning side of politics in season 4 and in the occasional flashback to Bartlet's first run, but I love that stuff, so I liked getting a deep dive into it with Bartlet's two would-be successors and those who fell short of the nominations. I felt the candidates and their supporting characters gave an old show some new life, and it was the point when The West Wing finally found an identity post Sorkin.  

A few bright spots aside, season 5 has been as much of a chore the second time around as I'd remembered. Episode after episode is a big shrug. Things that should be huge are no more consequential, compelling or moving than the B-story filler. I'm surprised the ratings stayed as steady as they did in that season. 

But I also felt that Sorkin's later two seasons, especially 4, showed a falling-off in quality. More of the sides of him I don't like were getting into the scripts: the lecturing, the stagy tics like repetitive dialogue, the apparent trolling of his critics. The inspiring oratory wasn't as consistently inspiring, either. (However, no matter how bland it was, it always got thunderous applause, reminding me a little of those Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip sketches we were told were hilarious.) I don't want to overstate the case, though. There are magnificent episodes that are favorites of mine in seasons 3 and 4. Far fewer in 5.

[Bastet]

8 hours ago, CheshireCat said:

From how much they appear on the show, I would think that Schiff, Sheen and Spencer were the most expensive actors, hence, the once with the least amount of screen time.

When Janney, Schiff, Whitford, and Spencer banded together to renegotiate their contracts after the show became a hit (Rob Lowe and, of course, Martin Sheen, were already being paid more), didn't they all get the same amount?

[BW Manilowe]

On 3/1/2021 at 5:53 PM, PeterPirate said:

"One egg is an oeuf".

"I'm ensorcelled".

Two classic West Wing lines that Aaron Sorkin used in The Trial of the Chicago 7, for which he won the Golden Globe for Best Screenplay.  

 

And Aaron was nominated earlier this morning for another Oscar for writing the movie (he won for The Social Network in the adapted screenplay category in 2011; he’s been nominated for other Oscars since winning, & before today I’m pretty sure). Hopefully he’ll win that second Oscar this year & finally get the other half of his pair of “Oscar bookends” he started back in 2011. Since he already won the Golden Globe, hopefully that’s a good omen.

Edited March 15, 2021 by BW Manilowe
To add some comments to clarify meaning.

[ProudMary]

12 hours ago, BW Manilowe said:

And Aaron was nominated earlier this morning for another Oscar for writing the movie (he won for The Social Network in the adapted screenplay category in 2011; he’s been nominated for other Oscars since winning, & before today I’m pretty sure). Hopefully he’ll win that second Oscar this year & finally get the other half of his pair of “Oscar bookends” he started back in 2011. Since he already won the Golden Globe, hopefully that’s a good omen.

After his win for The Social Network, he was also nominated for Moneyball and for Molly's Game, but went home without his other bookend. 😥 How he didn't receive a nomination for Steve Jobs is beyond me. I walked out of the theater and said to my friend, "They should just start engraving Aaron Sorkin's Oscar right now." So much for that prediction. 🙄 Most of the predictions I've been seeing online have him as the front-runner for the Original Screenplay Oscar for The Trial of the Chicago 7. I hope that holds, especially since he was snubbed for the Best Director nomination. 😠

[ProudMary]

I'll definitely give this one a watch.
‘Wonder Years’ Reboot Pilot at ABC Casts Dulé Hill, Laura Kariuki
 

Quote

The project will show how a black middle-class family in Montgomery, Alabama in the turbulent late 1960s, made sure it was The Wonder Years for them too.

Hill will star as family patriarch Bill Williams. He’s a music professor by day and a funk musician by night – described by Adult Dean as “The baddest guy I knew.” Almost always calm and composed, his favorite words are “be cool.” Bill wants his family and their black, middle class neighborhood to remain self-sufficient and he puts his money where his mouth is.

 

[UYI]

So this happened. On March 19th, so over a month ago, but better late than never to post it here!

 

[ProudMary]

In case you haven't seen it, first round voting for The Primetimer awards is happening this week. You have until Friday to vote for the Greatest Show of All Time. Even if you're not interested in voting in the other categories, just head on over to this link and vote for The West Wing!
The GOAT: Greatest Show Of All Time

[shapeshifter]

4 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

In case you haven't seen it, first round voting for The Primetimer awards is happening this week. You have until Friday to vote for the Greatest Show of All Time. Even if you're not interested in voting in the other categories, just head on over to this link and vote for The West Wing!
The GOAT: Greatest Show Of All Time

I did. Now I just hope the run-off doesn't pit WW against BrBa, because I'm not sure what I would do. 😟

[Guest]

On 6/17/2021 at 2:24 AM, shapeshifter said:

I did. Now I just hope the run-off doesn't pit WW against BrBa, because I'm not sure what I would do. 😟

BrBa? I looked at the nominees to figure it out and couldn’t, so please help. :)

 

ETA- oh wait. Breaking Bad

[Cetacean]

2 hours ago, deaja said:

ETA- oh wait. Breaking Bad

Doesn't hold a candle to West Wing.

[shapeshifter]

5 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

3 hours ago, deaja said:

ETA- oh wait. Breaking Bad

Doesn't hold a candle to West Wing.

Mileage varies, but BrBa does hold a magnet. 😆

[PeterPirate]

One of the WW lines that I say to myself is "Let's see how the pizza turns out", when I am waiting for the outcome of something.  

And from now on I will also think "Unsliced and on the roof".  

[ProudMary]

The West Wing didn't even make the cut to be voted on in the final round of the Primetimers. 😞
For the record, neither did Breaking Bad. 🤷‍♀️

[shapeshifter]

12 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

The West Wing didn't even make the cut to be voted on in the final round of the Primetimers. 😞
For the record, neither did Breaking Bad. 🤷‍♀️

I know! Our friendly feud fizzles ignominiously. 😶

[ProudMary]

2 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I know! Our friendly feud fizzles ignominiously. 😶

I don't think people understand the meaning of "Greatest Show of All Time."  Otherwise, we certainly wouldn't be looking at WKRP in Cincinnati as a finalist. 🤦‍♀️ BTW, I did watch and enjoy WKRP, but that doesn't make it a G.O.A.T. candidate!