bannana October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, boes said: Thank you, Peacheslatour for suggesting The Changeling! I'd never seen it, don't know how I missed it, and just finished it. What a GREAT ghost story, and I agree with Ohiosongbird, the creep factor is at least 11. Thank Dog for closed captioning - I put those on during the sceance so I could hear the ghost. That house.....loved it loved it loved it. Ever since I was a kid I loved old places and old things, the dustier and older, the better. That place was as big a player as any of the actors. Such a treat to see Melvyn Douglas, too. He was terrific in Ghost Story, right around the same time and of course I Never Cried for My Father. Thank you again for this, it was a finger on the spine chiller delight!! I have seen the Changeling probably five or six times over the years. But this discussion made me record it this weekend and I cannot wait to watch it on October 31st. Watched a bunch of scary movies yesterday. Will mention one I had never seen before. Drag me to hell 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4794167
peacheslatour October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 Melvin Douglas was also in the Old Dark House. Along with Charles Laughton, Boris Karloff, Raymond Massey and Lillian Bond. Check it out if you get a chance. It's the original "car breaks down during a storm, people take refuge in old dark house full of weirdos" trope. There's even a "man" played by a female actor. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4794794
boes October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: Melvin Douglas was also in the Old Dark House. Along with Charles Laughton, Boris Karloff, Raymond Massey and Lillian Bond. Check it out if you get a chance. It's the original "car breaks down during a storm, people take refuge in old dark house full of weirdos" trope. There's even a "man" played by a female actor. I love that movie, though I haven't seen it in years. I first saw it on the Late Show one night when I was a little kid, probably around 1959 or so and I never forgot it. There was a restoration done at some point and I saw it then at the Castro Theater in SF, what a treat that was. Raymond Massey has the best face! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4794821
peacheslatour October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 Quote I saw it then at the Castro Theater in SF, what a treat that was. Oh, lucky you! I would dearly love seeing it on the big screen. We got to see The Big Sleep at the theatre when one of those Fathom Events. What a difference. We were surprised that the place was packed. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795080
pearlite October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: Oh, lucky you! I would dearly love seeing it on the big screen. We got to see The Big Sleep at the theatre when one of those Fathom Events. What a difference. We were surprised that the place was packed. I love seeing classic stuff on the big screen! PearliteLite got me tickets to a showing at one of the few remaining independent repertory movie houses, just down the block from us. We saw Leave Her to Heaven, and a really interesting head makeup artist [here because stuff's shot in TO all the time] did a talk on style & makeup history in Hollywood films. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795151
peacheslatour October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, pearlite said: I love seeing classic stuff on the big screen! PearliteLite got me tickets to a showing at one of the few remaining independent repertory movie houses, just down the block from us. We saw Leave Her to Heaven, and a really interesting head makeup artist [here because stuff's shot in TO all the time] did a talk on style & makeup history in Hollywood films. OMG! I would kill to see that movie on the big screen! Gene Tierney at her insane best. And that gorgeous Technicolor! What a very cool gift. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795195
boes October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 52 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: Oh, lucky you! I would dearly love seeing it on the big screen. We got to see The Big Sleep at the theatre when one of those Fathom Events. What a difference. We were surprised that the place was packed. The place was packed that night for The Old Dark House, too. Normally I'm a "talk during the movie and I'll kill you" sort of guy, but at the Castro, the crowd treats movies as interactive events. Which is mostly OK because they're a funny bunch. The day I moved to SF, back in 1975, the movie showing at the Castro was the old Jeanette McDonald/Clark Gable classic, "San Francisco". I took that as a good omen. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795241
OhioSongbird October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 Ooooo-oooo...another goodie I love..... Pumpkinhead. 1988 w/ Lance Henriksen. Definitely worth checking out. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795380
pearlite October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, OhioSongbird said: Ooooo-oooo...another goodie I love..... Pumpkinhead. 1988 w/ Lance Henriksen. Definitely worth checking out. Well, Lance Henriksen--I used to write a lot about Millennium, and belonged to a great discussion group related to it, way back. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795617
OhioSongbird October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 (edited) Thank you! I was wracking my old-fart brain for the name of the show. We used to watch it every week. Edited October 30, 2018 by OhioSongbird .... correct spellink are good.... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795629
Cupid Stunt October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 Ol' King Coal the XIV Keep your kittehs safe and indoors this week. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795876
Cupid Stunt October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 When I was a coed (fluttering eyelashes, sweater sets, string of pearls and a swing to my step) I used to go to second run movie features at the Melnitz Hall Theater, UCLA Theater, Film and Television School. They would show thematic double features 4 nights a week -- Seeing my favorite old films, with a superior sound system on the big screen was a delight. Their silent movie month had a live organist, and were SRO. Very good times ... 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4795899
AngelKitty October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 1:50 AM, bannana said: Drag me to hell That's one I enjoyed watching. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4796951
Petunia13 October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 Happy Halloween ? ? 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4797152
peacheslatour October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 Is that our Georgie in his skeleton costume? 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4797346
Cupid Stunt October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 Happy Halloween, George and to all the Preverts! All the candy that’s sold during Halloween week, in one massive pumpkin Ick or treat? 7 strange facts about candy corn And what's Halloween without Rob Zombie to kick it off? 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4797657
OhioSongbird October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 I love candy corn! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798189
PatsyandEddie October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 21 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said: Ol' King Coal the XIV Keep your kittehs safe and indoors this week. For certain. I don’t let my cats out period but I always kept a big eye on mine during Hallowe’en, especially the black one who is called, appropriately,Wicca. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798190
peacheslatour October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 21 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said: Ol' King Coal the XIV Keep your kittehs safe and indoors this week. That kitten is majestic as fuck. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798194
Cupid Stunt October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, OhioSongbird said: I love candy corn! Me too! And the little confection pumpkins. 1 hour ago, peacheslatour said: That kitten is majestic as fuck. XIV is a sweetheart. Affectionate, good hunter, loves to perch on a fence post and survey his domain. All farms and ranches have a herd of cats; some have a preponderance of orange tabby's, torties and tuxies. In the 80's a black stray, with grey striped guard hairs, adopted my father and there's been two or three of the Coal's progeny around the ranch ever since. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798358
peacheslatour October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said: Me too! And the little confection pumpkins. XIV is a sweetheart. Affectionate, good hunter, loves to perch on a fence post and survey his domain. All farms and ranches have a herd of cats; some have a preponderance of orange tabby's, torties and tuxies. In the 80's a black stray, with grey striped guard hairs, adopted my father and there's been two or three of the Coal's progeny around the ranch ever since. Strong genes. Quote 1 hour ago, OhioSongbird said: I love candy corn! Do you nibble the colors seperately? Just me? Never mind. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798371
OhioSongbird October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 I start at the white end. That kitty is cute as hell! I love little fur balls..... 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798519
peacheslatour October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, OhioSongbird said: I start at the white end. That kitty is cute as hell! I love little fur balls..... Is that the pointy end? Me too. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798533
Snaporaz November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 Click that "ick or treat" link...the article says that nibbling the white pointy end first is de rigueur. Eating the wide yellow end first or the whole thing in one gulp is just plain gauche. And if you stack them, it will look like an ear of corn! Happy birthday, Mr. Stunt, and Happy Halloween to all you ghoulish Preverts! 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4798912
Petunia13 November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 Yeah that cat looks like it is a reincarnated king, Da Vinci, or Tesla. My dog makeup and costume went over well. A few coworkers dressed up and had costumes (cow, rooster, Maleficent, Rambo, pumpkin). I did the makeup very effects but still like cartoon-y cute and people stared and took pics. I also had ears and a tail and collar and leash. One customer had an elaborate Costume like Rocket Raccoon like exactly like a giant handmade Rocket Raccoon it was cool, one was Jesse Pinkman cooking meth, Where's Waldo, Harry Potter. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4799115
ByTor November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 17 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said: 18 hours ago, OhioSongbird said: I love candy corn! Me too! And the little confection pumpkins. LOL if candy corn, confection pumpkins, and circus peanuts were the only food on earth, I'm pretty sure I'd starve to death. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4799869
peacheslatour November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, ByTor said: LOL if candy corn, confection pumpkins, and circus peanuts were the only food on earth, I'm pretty sure I'd starve to death. I agree with you on the circus peanuts. Nasty, styrofoam teeth wreckers. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4799911
ByTor November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: I agree with you on the circus peanuts. Nasty, styrofoam teeth wreckers. One time at work I was really hungry & someone offered me circus peanuts. I hadn't had them since I was a kid & forgot what they tasted like...one bite & I couldn't do it anymore :) 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4799964
pearlite November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 55 minutes ago, ByTor said: LOL if candy corn, confection pumpkins, and circus peanuts were the only food on earth, I'm pretty sure I'd starve to death. 39 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: I agree with you on the circus peanuts. Nasty, styrofoam teeth wreckers. I'm lucky, I really don't like most candy and that weird stuff that candy corn and those pumpkin-thingies are made of creeps me out. Kind of like sweet starch bound with horse-glue or something. A question: by circus peanuts, do you mean those beige-y peanut-shaped things made out of something soft and odd? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800017
peacheslatour November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, pearlite said: I'm lucky, I really don't like most candy and that weird stuff that candy corn and those pumpkin-thingies are made of creeps me out. Kind of like sweet starch bound with horse-glue or something. A question: by circus peanuts, do you mean those beige-y peanut-shaped things made out of something soft and odd? Yes. They're horrible little lumps of sadness. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800075
boes November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ByTor said: LOL if candy corn, confection pumpkins, and circus peanuts were the only food on earth, I'm pretty sure I'd starve to death. 1 hour ago, peacheslatour said: I agree with you on the circus peanuts. Nasty, styrofoam teeth wreckers. 1 hour ago, ByTor said: One time at work I was really hungry & someone offered me circus peanuts. I hadn't had them since I was a kid & forgot what they tasted like...one bite & I couldn't do it anymore :) Circus peanuts are the worst. It's as if somebody deliberately designed a candy to make kids hate candy. I'm not much fonder of candy corn, but that may be because my Dad told when I was a wee thing that they were made from sweetened ear wax. BUT, I do have a lot of mini snickers and milky ways left from last night.......and those are just fine with me! Edited November 1, 2018 by boes 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800181
peacheslatour November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 Quote BUT, I do have a lot of mini snickers and milky ways left from last night.......and those are just fine with me! We didn't get a single trick or treater. We still have a giant bowl of Reese's Cups, 3 Musketeers and Butterfingers. Oh, well. I'll try to keep it down to one a day. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800197
valleycliffe November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 we didn't get any either.....i have chips galore.... 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800222
ByTor November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 And then you have my sister who loves circus peanuts, candy corn, the pumpkins...even those dots on a piece of paper that we used to get for a penny. I always tell her she should live in the Land of Misfit Candy. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800227
valleycliffe November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 i went to the casino yesterday for a while and when i was leaving i took a little box of dots....they are gummie dots and stuck to my dentures.....sure hope others driving their cars didn't notice the finger in my mouth trying to get the gummie unstuck to my plate.. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800233
OhioSongbird November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 ByTor....I will join your sister! Some of my favorite childhood candies. Just telling the Mr. last nite I was craving candy corn.....and I really like the peanuts. Remember candy necklaces? Small multi-flavored discs you wore on a string around your neck. Cost a nickel back in the day. Trouble is as you ate them the sugar would get wet (you ate them right off the string as you wore them) and all melty/sticky around your neck and turn it colors. My Mom hated getting all the colors off our clothes.... Necco Wafers anyone? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800426
ByTor November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, OhioSongbird said: Remember candy necklaces? 10 minutes ago, OhioSongbird said: Necco Wafers anyone? LOL you & my sister are candy soulmates! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800457
boes November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, OhioSongbird said: ByTor....I will join your sister! Some of my favorite childhood candies. Just telling the Mr. last nite I was craving candy corn.....and I really like the peanuts. Remember candy necklaces? Small multi-flavored discs you wore on a string around your neck. Cost a nickel back in the day. Trouble is as you ate them the sugar would get wet (you ate them right off the string as you wore them) and all melty/sticky around your neck and turn it colors. My Mom hated getting all the colors off our clothes.... Necco Wafers anyone? Those candy necklaces were deeeeeeeeelicious! And I liked those dots on paper, too. We didn't have Necco Wafers in the wilds of the north side of Dubuque. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800465
peacheslatour November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, boes said: Those candy necklaces were deeeeeeeeelicious! And I liked those dots on paper, too. We didn't have Necco Wafers in the wilds of the north side of Dubuque. You're lucky. They taste like sugary chalk. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800521
ByTor November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, valleycliffe said: gummie dots Now THAT is something I really like! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800538
peacheslatour November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, ByTor said: Now THAT is something I really like! Are you talking about those gum drop shaped ones in the yellow box? I love those. I wish they came in Starburst flavors. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800567
boes November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 (edited) The corner store nearest to us, Mescher and Tensch, sold these milk chocolate squares, one for a penny and in my 8 year old heart, I lusted after them, always. One year my mom got serious about us giving something up for lent. I said I'd gladly forego vegetables for lent but that didn't pass the taste test and my parents made me give up chocolate. I did, though I think that had a lot to do with my disaffection with religion - I mean, NO chocolate?? - but when Lent was over, I rode my bike over there and bought 25 of those squares with my carefully saved quarter - a lot of money back in the Dark Ages. And got sick. Throw up kind of sick, from eating them so fast. No matter, I went back the next day and spent my last dime on ten more. Those squares are mythically good in my memory! Edited November 1, 2018 by boes 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800578
peacheslatour November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, boes said: The corner store nearest to us, Mescher and Tensch, sold these milk chocolate squares, one for a penny and in my 8 year old heart, I lusted after them, always. One year my mom got serious about us giving something up for lent. I said I'd gladly forego vegetables for lent but that didn't pass the taste test and my parents made me give up chocolate. I did, though I think that had a lot to do with my disaffection with religion - I mean, NO chocolate?? - but when Lent was over, I rode my bike over there and bought 24 of those squares with my carefully saved quarter - a lot of money back in the Dark Ages. And got sick. Throw up kind of sick, from eating them so fast. No matter, I went back the next day and spent my last dime on ten more. Those squares are mythically good in my memory! That's the problem with childhood memories, isn't it? I once bought a turkey roll because I remember loving them as a kid. OMG! They are an affront to all that is good and holy. Bleh. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800588
valleycliffe November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: Are you talking about those gum drop shaped ones in the yellow box? I love those. I wish they came in Starburst flavors. yep...they sure taste good.... 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800622
ByTor November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 26 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: Are you talking about those gum drop shaped ones in the yellow box? I love those. I wish they came in Starburst flavors. YES! I don't really like Starburst, but YUM to Sour Starburst (not sure if they make it anymore). 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800640
ByTor November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, boes said: Throw up kind of sick, from eating them so fast. No matter, I went back the next day and spent my last dime on ten more. LOL this describes my dog after either chicken, cheese, or liverwurst :) 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800649
OhioSongbird November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 Sweet Tarts in the little roll.....I still see those at Halloween. Yeah....things change. Twinkies taste nothing like they used to. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800663
Cupid Stunt November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 18 hours ago, Snaporaz said: Click that "ick or treat" link...the article says that nibbling the white pointy end first is de rigueur. Eating the wide yellow end first or the whole thing in one gulp is just plain gauche. And if you stack them, it will look like an ear of corn! Happy birthday, Mr. Stunt, and Happy Halloween to all you ghoulish Preverts! Pointy end nibbler here ... Quote Happy birthday, Mr. Stunt, and Happy Halloween to all you ghoulish Preverts! Mr.Stunt survived another birthday, and stopped groaning over his Jell-O shot hangover about an hour ago … Unfortunately there was "room for Jell-O" 40 minutes ago, peacheslatour said: Are you talking about those gum drop shaped ones in the yellow box? I love those. I wish they came in Starburst flavors. Speaking of Starburst -- They make them in candy corn! I picked up some for the parties and every dish was emptied in record time. November 1 is known as Día de los Inocentes ("Day of the Innocents") and All Saints Day Calavera Azul, Sylvia Ji November 2 is Día de los Muertos or Día de los Difuntos ("Day of the Dead") 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4800703
Snaporaz November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, peacheslatour said: We didn't get a single trick or treater. We still have a giant bowl of Reese's Cups, 3 Musketeers and Butterfingers. Oh, well. I'll try to keep it down to one a day. 8 hours ago, valleycliffe said: we didn't get any either.....i have chips galore.... How strange. We usually get about 40 - 50 kids, and last night only 10 showed up. Is there some nationwide boycott or something? I gave the last two kids about a dozen pieces each and gave one to their mom, too, and they were so excited! I still have unopened bags of Kit Kats and Heath bars. What ever shall I do with them?? 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4801552
OhioSongbird November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 I'll help you dispose of them! I loooooove Heath bars. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3520-small-talk-out-of-genoa/page/125/#findComment-4802186
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