caracas1914 August 21, 2014 Author Share August 21, 2014 (edited) I confess I don't pay much attention to breathing while people are singing. I thought Rachel/Lea sounded fantastic in the original DROMP and it was great because it fit properly with the storyline to give the show emotional punch. Ditto "Rumors/Someone like you" with Santana, "I want to hold your hand" with Kurt. The second DROMP worked for me despite Santana not having a typical "Broadway" voice because the character seemed to be both parodying and paying homage to Rachel's version and it just seemed like something Santana would go with. So I guess the best Glee numbers for me are the ones that have some connection to the characters and their storylines or traits, and not so much about just perfect technique. Where I have an issue is where a number is just thrown in because it's obvious they just want character X Y or Z to sing that song randomly. Not just Rachel, but they did that sometimes with Mercedes whose voice I like, it just gave some of those numbers less storyline sense. and that's when the accusations of Glee karokee do apply. Group numbers could be every effective in the right SL setting, and the harmony of voices is something I always enjoyed. "To Sir with Love", "Somebody to love" (yes I know the background vocals was studio singers), "How will I know", the first "Don't stop believing", "Seasons of Love", "Bad Romance", some mashups, etc. Edited August 21, 2014 by caracas1914 Link to comment
tom87 August 21, 2014 Share August 21, 2014 Yes to Matt and Lea Bway duets.... Yeah maybe he can cover up all her horrible flaws. :) But serioulsy I hope they rectify that this season, could be one of the few good things to come out of season 6. Link to comment
Sara2009 August 21, 2014 Share August 21, 2014 FWIW, I still think Lea is a technically great singer over all. She just has a few flaws. Link to comment
wingster55 August 21, 2014 Share August 21, 2014 She was only in 2 eps, so she may not technically count but I'd put Lindsay Pearce in a top tier category for voices. 1 Link to comment
tom87 August 21, 2014 Share August 21, 2014 FWIW, I still think Lea is a technically great singer over all. She just has a few flaws. I was being factious :) Everyone has flaws even with what they do best. Link to comment
Sara2009 August 21, 2014 Share August 21, 2014 Oh I know you were, and I agree. I just nitpick the people I don't really like more. Link to comment
camussie September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 (edited) Any guesses on what the last song on Glee will be. I personally would love it if they faded out on a scene with Will and Rachel while we hear Cory as Finn singing "Not the End" in the background. It was never in an actual episode and not only would that be a way to give a nod the original three leads of the show (much like ER ended on Carter opening a clinic as a way to give a nod to him being the original lead of that show) but it also is a really great song about moving towards the future and having hope. Even if Cory hadn't passed I think it would have been a great song to end the show on. Edited September 16, 2014 by camussie 1 Link to comment
jaytee1812 September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 I think it'll be another rehash of Don't Stop Believin. Link to comment
tom87 September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 It will be whatever is in the top 40 a month before they film the last episode. Hopefully it is Rachel and Kurt reprising ( the cut from pilot) I'm leaving on a jet plane or some song saying goodbye to Lima for good. Link to comment
Sara2009 September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 I hope it's not " Leaving on a Jet Plane." That was one of my favorite Will songs. Link to comment
tom87 September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 I hope it's not " Leaving on a Jet Plane." That was one of my favorite Will songs. I think you are safe. But even so I don't know how them singing it would negate it being a Will favorite. I mean that is what was said when others redid past songs from other characters. Link to comment
Sara2009 September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 I just have certain " untouchable" songs for some of the characters. Link to comment
jaytee1812 September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 I just have certain " untouchable" songs for some of the characters. Apart from 'Leaving on a Jet Plane' which others are untouchable? (Just curious) Link to comment
tom87 September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 I just have certain " untouchable" songs for some of the characters. Well didn't we all and that was shot to hell last season. Link to comment
ancslove September 17, 2014 Share September 17, 2014 A group sing of Thank You For The Music (Abba) could be lovely, for the last song. I wouldn't even care if it was sung directly to the camera. Paradise by the Dashboard Light is an untouchable song for me (one of my few, actually), but I wouldn't mind a redo of Edge of Glory as everyone prepares to go off into their futures. I loved Glee's original version, but I'm not emotionally invested in it. Link to comment
Hana Chan September 17, 2014 Share September 17, 2014 Anything so long as they don't do Don't Stop Believing.... again. Link to comment
caracas1914 September 17, 2014 Author Share September 17, 2014 Another rehash of the Beatles "In my life", I could live with. Link to comment
SparedTurkey September 18, 2014 Share September 18, 2014 (edited) I would say the show will end with Don't Stop Believing - but if it were up to me I'd have the version from the pilot playing over a montage, rather than a 60th incarnation. Slightly different topic but... I miss the way songs were arranged and changed in the earlier seasons. Songs like You Keep Me Hanging On, even 'Like A Virgin' and 'Poker Face' weren't just carbon copies of the originals.Mercy and Rehab in the pilot (or second episode) were awesome. Of course some were like the originals and that was fine, but it seemed like they put more of an effort into the earlier seasons with their songs and how they were arranged. From what little I saw of the later seasons, they really could have just played the original and filmed the cast lip-synching. Edited September 18, 2014 by SparedTurkey Link to comment
tom87 September 18, 2014 Share September 18, 2014 Saw on tumblr someone suggest no day but today from rent and even having it end with the club watching old movies of actual BTS stuff of the cast having fun together. Link to comment
Craphole Island September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 (edited) I would say the show will end with Don't Stop Believing - but if it were up to me I'd have the version from the pilot playing over a montage, rather than a 60th incarnation. Slightly different topic but... I miss the way songs were arranged and changed in the earlier seasons. Songs like You Keep Me Hanging On, even 'Like A Virgin' and 'Poker Face' weren't just carbon copies of the originals.Mercy and Rehab in the pilot (or second episode) were awesome. Of course some were like the originals and that was fine, but it seemed like they put more of an effort into the earlier seasons with their songs and how they were arranged. From what little I saw of the later seasons, they really could have just played the original and filmed the cast lip-synching. I agree with you, but every now and again they'll switch up some song arrangements. "Wide Awake" and "If I Were a Boy" come to mind from this past season. Also, while I'm not trying to discredit Glee, but I think some of their "original" arrangements have often just been different existing, less well-known versions of the song (either by the original artist or another artist). Like, I think their version of "Poker Face" was an actual version Gaga did from now and then before they used it. I could be wrong though. Edited September 19, 2014 by Craphole Island Link to comment
ThatThingYouDo September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 I could be wrong though. You're not. All their "original" arrangements were done elsewhere first or bought from a Tufts a cappella group. That's not a dig against the singers who often do wonderful things with the tasks they're given, but it is sort of sad the music people seem incapable of more than searching youtube for alternate arrangements when they even bother to stray from copying the original. Link to comment
Glorfindel September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 ^Incapable, or simply not given enough time by the writers/producers to do their work properly? I know the music producers of Glee mess up sometimes, and have used other people's arrangements without crediting them (although strictly speaking that's not illegal), but as someone in the music industry it amazes me how many songs they (have to) churn out each week, for years in a row. I think I read somewhere that in the first seasons one of the Anders brothers worked in the USA on the music, and when he went to sleep his brother in Europe took over, so the songs were worked on practically 24/7 just to get them done in time. Link to comment
tom87 September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 ^Incapable, or simply not given enough time by the writers/producers to do their work properly? I know the music producers of Glee mess up sometimes, and have used other people's arrangements without crediting them (although strictly speaking that's not illegal), but as someone in the music industry it amazes me how many songs they (have to) churn out each week, for years in a row. I think I read somewhere that in the first seasons one of the Anders brothers worked in the USA on the music, and when he went to sleep his brother in Europe took over, so the songs were worked on practically 24/7 just to get them done in time. As far as I know they still do it but it is with his production partner Peer Astrom who remains in Swedan. His brother Alex works directly with he cast in the studio. Link to comment
Glorfindel September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 ^I knew I wasn't remembering that 100% correctly. Thanks for clearing it up. Link to comment
shantown November 7, 2014 Share November 7, 2014 From the Spoilers thread: So Glee is rehearsing its 700th song truly hope its better than Shout (the 500th song). I see Amber is singing as well as Kevin, Chris and Matt sure this is going to be a big group number cause I saw some newbies too. What ever the song is I know Amber will slay it and the rest of them too! What was the 600th song? I find it strange that they celebrate some of these milestones and not others. Link to comment
bjork November 7, 2014 Share November 7, 2014 From the Spoilers thread: What was the 600th song? I find it strange that they celebrate some of these milestones and not others. I think it was "Whenever I Call You Friend" by Tina and Artie in Frenemies. Link to comment
jaytee1812 November 7, 2014 Share November 7, 2014 I think it was "Whenever I Call You Friend" by Tina and Artie in Frenemies. A woman of colour being patronised by a white guy, rather appropriate for a milestone on this show. 1 Link to comment
jaytee1812 December 16, 2014 Share December 16, 2014 The promo has Lea's version of "Let It Go" JFC who let Lea Michele near that. As they say in my part of the world 'thon was brutal'. Link to comment
Sara2009 December 16, 2014 Share December 16, 2014 What's wrong with it? I have a separate rant. I think Darren has a pleasant voice, but it REALLY burns me up that he's gotten to sing so many Broadway songs and Matt has only gotten to sing one. 1 Link to comment
jaytee1812 December 16, 2014 Share December 16, 2014 What's wrong with it? I have a separate rant. I think Darren has a pleasant voice, but it REALLY burns me up that he's gotten to sing so many Broadway songs and Matt has only gotten to sing one. Just one? Hasn't he done a couple of duets that were Broadway songs? Has he ever had a solo? Make Em Laugh isn't technically Broadway is it? Also, you just remind me of Darren/Lea singing Broadway Baby. Brutal* *apparently my word of the day. Link to comment
Sara2009 December 16, 2014 Share December 16, 2014 I think he's just done " NYC" with Jane Lynch, Link to comment
jaytee1812 December 16, 2014 Share December 16, 2014 (edited) What was the song he did with Jayma at the start of "I Do"? Getting Married Today, from Company. Edited December 16, 2014 by jtrattray Link to comment
Sara2009 December 16, 2014 Share December 16, 2014 (edited) " You're All The World To Me." It's not technically a Broadway song, though. It was actually in the episode after " I Do." I actually forgot about " Not Getting Married," though. Anyway, my point still stands. Broadway songs really hit that sweet spot in Matt's voice, and he hasn't gotten to sing many of them. Edited December 16, 2014 by Sara2009 Link to comment
tom87 December 17, 2014 Share December 17, 2014 (edited) " You're All The World To Me." It's not technically a Broadway song, though. It was actually in the episode after " I Do." I actually forgot about " Not Getting Married," though. Anyway, my point still stands. Broadway songs really hit that sweet spot in Matt's voice, and he hasn't gotten to sing many of them. Matt needs some old school bway stuff. South Pacific, King and I, Music Man, Carousel, Oklahoma etc.. Edited December 17, 2014 by tom87 Link to comment
Sara2009 December 17, 2014 Share December 17, 2014 Agreed. I wouldn't want him to do " South Pacific" since he was actually in it, though. Link to comment
fakeempress December 17, 2014 Share December 17, 2014 What's wrong with it? I have a separate rant. I think Darren has a pleasant voice, but it REALLY burns me up that he's gotten to sing so many Broadway songs and Matt has only gotten to sing one. I agree, it's really a shame about Matt Morrison, all the more because the show portrayed Will as having a shot at Broadway. Darren is best suited for standards, and some singer-songwriter/pop, but he's being pushed as a legitimate Broadway voice to my continued amazement, people are fantasy-casting him in everything these days. Link to comment
Sara2009 December 17, 2014 Share December 17, 2014 I think Matt is also great at standards. That's what he performs at his concerts. Link to comment
dizzyizzy01 December 17, 2014 Share December 17, 2014 Matt is the best male singer on the show by far and he's been so incredibly underused. Just one song with Lea/Matt together this final season. Please? 1 Link to comment
Sara2009 December 17, 2014 Share December 17, 2014 Matt is the best male singer on the show by far and he's been so incredibly underused. Just one song with Lea/Matt together this final season. Please? I think he and Kevin are probably about equal(though very different), but I so agree with you about a Matt/Lea duet. Link to comment
caracas1914 December 22, 2014 Author Share December 22, 2014 http://www.people.com/article/glee-lea-michele-sings-let-it-go-frozen "Let it Go" Link to comment
camussie December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 (edited) She sounds good but I miss the days on Glee when the music producers did more with the songs than have the actors simply do an exact cover of the song already out there. Because this is really just a cover and nothing more, while I think Lea sounds good, the song itself is forgettable. Again that is all on the music producers. Edited December 22, 2014 by camussie Link to comment
caracas1914 December 22, 2014 Author Share December 22, 2014 Musically Glee just burned out also, though I have to admit seeing how "organically" SMASH tried to painfully stage musical numbers makes me appreciate how incredibly difficult it was what Glee accomplished; mounting mini musicals week after week. Link to comment
camussie December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 What they did was incredibly difficult although I think they made it harder on themselves in season 2 and following by stuffing too many songs in each episode. I think season 1 when it seems to me they used fewer songs that were chosen to compliment the it just plot worked better. In later seasons I often got the impression they picked the songs first and then shaped the plot around it. 1 Link to comment
tom87 December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 Yeah nice cover of a song that was overplayed 6 months ago. Link to comment
caracas1914 December 22, 2014 Author Share December 22, 2014 (edited) "Let it go" in it's short life has had sooo many covers that I'm practically numb to that song. Lea sounds fine, but there is nothing new or fresh to the arrangement it's just "Let it Go" version# 5,325. I don't think it helps either that the lyrics don't match Rachel's story at all, her journey in Season 6 certainly doesn't seem to be of someone repressed or hiding who they are, of having to "let it go". Instead Rachel impulsively did let go (of her Broadway dreams) and is now paying the consequences. So on top of that we have a random song given to Rachel just because, I realize it's not the first time (HA!) Glee does that, but I just wish they would have picked a better number for her big solo for the season premiere. Edited December 22, 2014 by caracas1914 1 Link to comment
Hana Chan December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 It's a serviceable rendition, but it's a note for note copy of Idina's version and Lea herself isn't exactly bringing anything new to the party. And I totally agree with caracas1914 that the song fits into Rachel's storyline as well as elephant in a pair of pointe shoes. Rachel isn't stuck in Lima because she was trapped by unfair rules or expectations - she's there because she couldn't keep her ego in check and trashed her own career. They really need to start laying off having Lea mimicking Idina and Barbra all the time because she's not showing favorably in direct comparisons. 1 Link to comment
tom87 December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 She holds up fine in comparison singing wise. It is that is it just a copy of song we have heard 100's of times that is the problem. I am guessing we still get one more Barbra song with the way we were. "Let it go" in it's short life has had sooo many covers that I'm practically numb to that song. Lea sounds fine, but there is nothing new or fresh to the arrangement it's just "Let it Go" version# 5,325. I don't think it helps either that the lyrics don't match Rachel's story at all, her journey in Season 6 certainly doesn't seem to be of someone repressed or hiding who they are, of having to "let it go". Instead Rachel impulsively did let go (of her Broadway dreams) and is now paying the consequences. So on top of that we have a random song given to Rachel just because, I realize it's not the first time (HA!) Glee does that, but I just wish they would have picked a better number for her big solo for the season premiere. they did uninvited. Link to comment
Hana Chan December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 Remember when the musical directors really took risks and challenged the actors and the audience with unorthodox renditions of well known songs, or having them performed by unexpected singers? We got things like I Want To Hold Your Hand, I Feel Pretty/Unpretty,... things that didn't sound exactly like the original versions and were able to stand on their own as interpretations of the song. Now we just get predictable performances by the expected parties that don't deviate a single note from the original. Pretty indicative of everything that's been going wrong with Glee the past few seasons. Link to comment
dizzyizzy01 December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 Like everything else on the creative side of the show, the music got lazy. 2 Link to comment
tom87 December 22, 2014 Share December 22, 2014 "Let it go" in it's short life has had sooo many covers that I'm practically numb to that song. Lea sounds fine, but there is nothing new or fresh to the arrangement it's just "Let it Go" version# 5,325. I don't think it helps either that the lyrics don't match Rachel's story at all, her journey in Season 6 certainly doesn't seem to be of someone repressed or hiding who they are, of having to "let it go". Instead Rachel impulsively did let go (of her Broadway dreams) and is now paying the consequences. Can't it just be that she is to the point she knows she screwed up but she is just going to push forward anyway? It fits the Rachel we first saw who had people on her but she didn't really let them see her sweat. So even if it was her own doing at some point she has to let go of the old baggage to get to the next step. Link to comment
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