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S02.E08: Area 51


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I only got to watch the first half of the show live, a quick question: Do only the geniuses of the team get $150 grand checks (each?) ? I didn't hear Paige and Cabe gave theirs to Walter. And I think i heard Paige said along the line "You guys just gave him the money, no thanks?"

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Unless this show truly goes into sci-fi territory, I have to think Megan is probably not long for this world, so I'm guessing now they're going to just ramp up Walt trying to go against her wishes and have her be sedated, while poor Sly is forced to take him on.  I'm sure it will end with Walt realizing he needs to respect her decision, but I wonder how much of a jerk he will be, before he comes to that realization.

 

Wasn't quite as wacky as I thought a mission set at Area 51 would be, but I guess it still ended up involving craziness like Cabe fighting someone in zero gravity, using a watch and Toby's floss as a grabbling hook, and a mega computer that Walter plans on using to "upload" Megan's brain, if it comes to it.  In other words, classic Scorpion!

 

At least this episode didn't have any romance angst, so that was definitely a plus.  Sure, it had it's share of Paige walking to talk things over, and while I do question the timing of it, at least it is true that Walt, Toby, and Happy seem to be in denial over how bad Megan is and how preposterous Walt's plan is.

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This week on That's So Walter!, Walter tries to Sheldon Cooper his (possibly/probably) dying sister, Megan, into a $15M/ 50 pedibyte(?!?) server. To be re-vesseled after her current body "gives out".  Next Week, Walter stays in bed and sends a rolling robot with a monitor to do his usual jobs!

 

I get that Walter and the group are fighting this unpleasant, (seemingly) inevitable event until they can't dodge it. I feel for them, especially since they have accomplished insane things in inane manner from the jump.  I was highly upset that the sister he loves so hard did not- in Walter's mind- deserve the dignity and respect he'd demand until his last breath.  Walter's "cure" wasn't really a cure either, so his "Science!!" is letting him down all over the place, too. If Megan remembers how it felt to be in a body, why would Walter think that sensory deprivation would be better? They were talking decades for Walter's "solution".  Like I said, I get he's in denial and that this is gutting him, but in the end? It's Megan's call. It's her body.

 

The zero g moments were neat, but I wasn't too into the mission. Also, if Homeland Roz is supposed to be not exactly new and not-exactly a long-timer, why would she claim that the group was for certain at the cover story? A simple " I have no knowledge of the people you have described to me"/Mission: Impossible-style denial would be more believable, imo.  I did like Walter's bluff to the NSA/MIB dude, but why did they not remember/know the comms would be out that close to Area 51?  They read the script, like the good agents they supposedly are. *sigh*

 

Nice shadow with the helmet, Wardrobe! Very clever!

 

Lastly, I just love Sylvester, Sylvester & Megan, and Ari Stidham and Camille Guaty.

 

Question to discuss: Would Kellie Pickler been the better former American Idol contestant to be cast as Paige? I honestly don't know; she seems to be a bit more bubbly and outgoing, which would really underline the  differences between the O.G. team and Paige. I just have seen Ms. Pickler on a couple of talk shows and The Chew and enjoyed her in those venues.

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I had pneumonia a couple of years ago and it is so painful, I think if I got it again I'd want to be sedated. But I still think Sylvester is right, and you have to respect the patient's wishes. Megan should have paperwork, though, saying what she wants, that Walter can't over-ride (unless he goes rogue, which of course is his habit).

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I really like the character of Megan, and think she would have been a nice addition to the team. It seems like her character is going to die and that makes me sad.  I understand it as a plot device, but there is enough of this going on in real life that I would prefer to see her get a miracle cure.

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Seeing the sister of the main character and girlfriend of another whither away and die sounds incredibly depressing and pretty much the exact opposite of what I want from this show. I really hope that's not where Scorpion is heading.

 

I do like seeing Sly be the mature one, though.

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Unless this show truly goes into sci-fi territory, I have to think Megan is probably not long for this world, so I'm guessing now they're going to just ramp up Walt trying to go against her wishes and have her be sedated, while poor Sly is forced to take him on.  I'm sure it will end with Walt realizing he needs to respect her decision, but I wonder how much of a jerk he will be, before he comes to that realization.

 

It really does seem like they're going to let her die - I didn't think the show would do it.  Megan needs to have a serious wake up talk with Walter about HER wishes and I hope she has all the paperwork she needs including advance directives and a DNR request.  I wouldn't be surprised if Walter tries to become her guardian so he could make the decisions he wants but I'm hoping they don't do that or the story line is that he's denied or the team talks him out of it.  Definitely don't want to see him over-ride her and force her to try every treatment no matter what.

 

As usual Toby gets the best lines for funny - liked the whole "I have an envelope that predicted this".

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Toby *was* awesome.

 

The computer science?  Less so.  The human brain has a capacity of 2.5 petabytes (about 2500 TB.)

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-memory-capacity/

 

One TB hard drives cost less than $100, so you could get there for $250,000, plus the equipment to hook everything together. Even with some other overhead, a good mad scientist could get there for a million or so; less if you have a coupon.  Maybe the rest of the money would be for the transfer process.

 

That said, at the end, they almost got there when Walter took the 2.5 petabyte hard drive off the plane, and (correctly) stated it was at least 10 years ahead of its time.   It was worth serious money, and could have (roughly) held his sister's brain capacity.  

 

 

As usual Toby gets the best lines for funny - liked the whole "I have an envelope that predicted this".

 

Yes!  And the button line of "I did not see this coming at all."

 

I thought the CIA AskMeAnything had potential, but they kind of wasted it with non-answers.

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How the heck do you download the contents of a brain onto a computer disk? So bizarre.

I don't like how they are misrepresenting Multiple Sclerosis. It's a chronic disease, not a death sentence. and I don't think Walter has any say into her medical wishes as long as she's lucid and intelligent enough to have her say.

Didnt watch the episode beyond the opening scene, so I have to see the rest before I comment further.

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I'm sure it will end with Walt realizing he needs to respect her decision, but I wonder how much of a jerk he will be, before he comes to that realization.

 

Dunno, but he's already annoyingly bad.

 

I really hope that's not where Scorpion is heading.

 

Same, don't make this series melodramatic.

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The human brain has a capacity of 2.5 petabytes (about 2500 TB.)

 

Thank you, market doctor! I heard the word as "peda". Since I haven't dealt with that kind of math amount before, I'm glad I now know what (seemingly) comes after tera/terrabyte! New info is good. New, correct info is better! *g*

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I give the show credit for giving Walter's sister a real disease rather than some made-up one (that we all know would be miraculously cured by the end of the season).  I don't know if the way they're presenting MS is accurate or not (based on THIS show, probably not), but I'm finding this subplot to be much more involving than anything else they're doing currently.  I'm interested in seeing where they go with this.

 

I know Walter is "different" from the rest of us, due to his giant intellect, but trying to put his sister's brain into a computer is childish and dumb.  I mean, he can't really be THAT cut-off from reality.  He needs to grow up (or at least stop stealing plot devices from Captain America movies).  

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This show cracks me up.  It is the new A-Team with all the campy comic fun adventures.  It has been getting more and more absurd each week, but I keep trying to place it in our real world.  No more.  As soon as Walter announced that his "cure" for his sister was to download her brain into a computer until it could be uploaded into a suitable vessel, maybe 20 years later, and nobody called bullshit, I realized that this show is in an alternate universe.  I get it that Walter is a genius, and that his team has full confidence that he can do anything, but that is way beyond the pale.

 

I, too, am frustrated that MS is being portrayed the way it is.  I know and have known many people with MS.  Yes, I've also known some who have passed from complications due to MS, but usually after living a fairly long and full life.  There are different varieties of MS, some with a swifter decline than others, and it is a disease that has its ups and downs for the patient.  I just think the writers were looking for a terribly scary sounding disease which would not disfigure the appearance of the character.  MS is mostly invisible, until the patient is unable to walk easily, then there will be canes, crutches, walkers, and finally wheelchairs, and we've already seen Meagan bed-ridden, using a wheelchair, or crutches to get around.

 

If they do have Meagan tragically pass away, and Walter successfully downloads her brain and personality into the fancy CIA computer storage module, then I can see her continuing on as a member of the team, interacting with them through a computer interface.  Sci-Fi territory indeed....

 

I do have to laugh that the truly legit cartoon/comic book show, Supergirl, that leads into Scorpion, is all rife with angsty family drama and interpersonal dynamics, and the superhero part of it is kind of underplayed.  The juxtaposition last night was pretty weird.

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I give the show credit for giving Walter's sister a real disease rather than some made-up one (that we all know would be miraculously cured by the end of the season).  I don't know if the way they're presenting MS is accurate or not (based on THIS show, probably not), but I'm finding this subplot to be much more involving than anything else they're doing currently.  I'm interested in seeing where they go with this.

 

I know Walter is "different" from the rest of us, due to his giant intellect, but trying to put his sister's brain into a computer is childish and dumb.  I mean, he can't really be THAT cut-off from reality.  He needs to grow up (or at least stop stealing plot devices from Captain America movies).  

Could you imagine having all that intellect and not being able to help your sister? I can see why Walter is acting the way he is.

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Could you imagine having all that intellect and not being able to help your sister? I can see why Walter is acting the way he is.

 

I do feel bad for Walter and his sense of powerlessness in this case, but he's still an adult, and he should know by now that, unlike what he might have read on an empowerment wall poster, failure IS an option, and sometimes failure is the only option.  

 

At some point, his friends and colleagues need to sit him down and talk some sense into him.  I know they're used to letting him have his own way, but this whole plan of his is just silly.

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having watched the episode fully, it does make a little more sense that she has complications from pneumonia brought on by her immune system being unable to fight people. Healthier people have died from pneumonia. The plane/CIA subplot had more holes than swiss cheese, one of them being - how did the CIA chief-man miraculously show up when the plane finally landed? Why didnt he back them up the entire time? Who indeed tried to kidnap the scientist? How did the G force not knock out everyone else on the plane, and how was Walter able to override the plane while they were in zero gravity? And so on and so forth. But who cares, it was a pretty good episode. I think that this show dupes us all into making sense by having super rapid-fire dialogue and plot changes so that we don't have time to realize that the plots dont' make sense. :D

 

I did like the humor exchange at the end, and that Sylvester really came in handy.

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Where did Sylvester get that drone and found and actually catch and match speed of the super plane? "Scorpion" is the answer!

I just watched that movie where they do download someone's brain into a computer, yeah like 30 years to go from now.

 

This is were Walter needs some good slapping, not for saving Paige's life last week. 

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Am I the only one not invested in Megan's storyline? She only interacts with two out of six main characters and Walter is not my favourite, so it just doesn't interest me wherever they are going with this plot line. 

 

This week's case kinda lost me too, until the little twist to the end. I indeed didn't see that coming. 

 

Love the moments they had to go extra steps because they were not always best suit for the tasks at hand, e.g. Happy was not there to open the locks on the plane, Walter or Sly were not there to hack the medical records.

 

The little teasing, insulting, fun exchanges between Toby and Happy reminded me what I love about them before they became Quintis. Hopefully they will be a couple eventually,  but give me as many "friends" Toby/Happy moments as possible~~

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