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Me for all of last summer hiatus and 5A: Me after reading the WM interview from a few weeks back about Felicity's arc giving her a more profound understanding of Oliver: Me after r

BkWurm1
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I tend to think that trying to make KC a place on the show had a ripple effect that did hurt the show pretty badly.  She's what turned Quentin stupid and into a creepy stalker.  So that wipes off the

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Sakura12

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Which is probably why some are expecting no scenes together to happen ;)

 

Exactly. I was expecting some more Sara and Nyssa scenes in S2, but instead Sara got tossed at a garbage in S3 and Nyssa had more screen time with Sara's sister. I fully expect the same treatment with Thea and Sara. I think Thea will be there for the resurrection and then never share a scene a with Sara again while she spends time talking to Laurel about Sara. Because that's how these writers roll with their storytelling. 

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dtissagirl

dtissagirl

Did I miss something, or did WM never mention "Laurel" by name in the sneak peek? (I only began to realize it mid-trailer, and I didn't bother to watch it again so I'm not 100% positive). In the Laurel thread, there were remarks that I found interesting about BC being more popular than Laurel is. They'd be even more interesting, then.

 

There were one or two throwaway mentions of her alter ego's name as part of the team (still doesn't work with me, sorry sooo not sorry)  in the middle of some Oliver, Felicity and Diggle galore, OTOH -and if it reflects the airtime this season I will be a very happy camper.

 

I have nothing but KC's many set pics in the mask to go on, but I have a hunch we're gonna see more of BC than Laurel, at least in the first nine episodes. Which is fine by me too, yes.

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Guest

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I really hope Thea and Sara do have some scenes together. Not only do they now have the shared experience of being in the LP, but they really need to talk about what happened. Thea might not have known what she was doing but she still shot those arrows into Sara's chest. There's story/character growth potential there.

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kismet

kismet

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I'm gonna go on a limb and say that LL is unable to maintain her balance this season between masked & unmasked life. She's gonna go full vigilante all the time. It's gonna duplicate OQ's spiral and laser focus into vigilantism in earlier seasons. That is why we are not getting a whole lot on her character growth. Once she resurrects SL, the rest is going to be all BC all the time. No need for any LI or any other character/plot arc. I wonder if she is even going to have a day job this year or if she will simply retire & just work the streets.

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Primal Slayer

Primal Slayer

I really hope Thea and Sara do have some scenes together. Not only do they now have the shared experience of being in the LP, but they really need to talk about what happened. Thea might not have known what she was doing but she still shot those arrows into Sara's chest. There's story/character growth potential there.

If these were different writers, they could make a really powerful and emotional scene with Thea/Sara. But of course they probably wont.

They were both alive in S2 and Laurel has now had more screentime with Sara's girlfriend then Sara had.

They didn't exactly have the greatest time in Season 2. Sara kidnapped her family, poisoned her sister, forced her to go back to the life she tried to run away from. Of course everyone has forgiven her for all those things, but they do have some issues to work out or well that we should've seen worked out.

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Guest

If these were different writers, they could make a really powerful and emotional scene with Thea/Sara. But of course they probably wont.

 

Well, that goes without saying after s3 tbh. But I wonder if it even can be emotional/powerful when it sounds like Sara won't really be herself, at least not the Sara we once knew. 

 

I'm here for any Thea/Sara scenes though. That's a dangling plot point if ever I saw one.

Primal Slayer

Primal Slayer

Well, that goes without saying after s3 tbh. But I wonder if it even can be emotional/powerful when it sounds like Sara won't really be herself, at least not the Sara we once knew. 

 

I'm here for any Thea/Sara scenes though. That's a dangling plot point if ever I saw one.

Even if Sara is crazy when she comes out of the pit, having her see Thea that gives her constant flashbacks of Thea killing her, and Thea trying to reason to her would be a good start. 

Chaser

Chaser

Echo posted a photo with BR. BR is in the ATOM suit. Some think DP was also looking dressed up in an Instagram pic (black and lacy like WH and KC).

Are we into the crossover yet?

RE : Less Laurel and More BC. There is a small MegaBuzz about the Lance sister relationship and the quote from WM makes me think this theory is correct.

tarotx

tarotx

Didn't you see Stephan's "amused" post about the show hiring actors taller than him? :p

"As an aside: Producers are officially taunting me by hiring actors taller than me. I'm 6'2 dammit!! Makes me 6'6 in Hollywood. Cmon guys!!!"

 

https://twitter.com/amellywood/status/629856296917819392

Echo is taller than BR.

I'm amused by this.


Oh I know but just 2 episodes of Arrow would be much better than if he comes back in an earlier episode...

Where hopefully he stays. Forever.

 

I am so sorry.

Guest

Guest

Oh I know but just 2 episodes of Arrow would be much better than if he comes back in an earlier episode...

 

AGREED. The less Ray, the better. Please and thank.

I'm actually hoping Ray the Cane Toad dies on LoT so I can watch it.

 

Wishful thinking. I don't think they'd spend so much money on his ATOM suit just to kill him off. We can dream...

MuuMuuChainsmoker

MuuMuuChainsmoker

The mod team is in the process of re summarizing the overall forum notes, but in the mean time, I'm going to hope that the third time is the charm:

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Primal Slayer

Primal Slayer

So it seems Iris (semi expected but still) and Thea are largely missing from the actual crossover action. How wonderful. What purpose does Caitlin even serve?

It seems like the main Arrow cast will be in the cross over from Katie/EBR going picture crazy tonight. Though it could be for Arrows part of the cross over. Sadly no sight of Iris yet.

Chaser

Chaser

DP is good friends with KC so it's possible she was just on set hanging out.

If they are filming the crossover, I'm not sure why Caitlyn would be the only one from the Flash crew there. Unless others just ducked the camera. But this feels more like 'Emily post photos and get people talking' then just taking fun shots. Esp with DR posting the OTA pic. If that was the case though, I would think we would get more of the Flash.

I read that 4x07 filmed until 10/01. JB posted on Facebook he was on his way to Van City tonight.

I'm going with DP is just visiting the set, and the Gala is just the Arrow crew. However they are filming portions of the crossover per Echo's pic with ATOM.

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Yeah, I'm not sure where all this crossover talk is coming from, the Arrow side is still filming 407, filming ends on 10/1.  They also start filming 408 on 10/1 so there might be some crossover between wrapping up 407 (2nd unit?) and starting 408 on Thursday but I say Tuesday filming is clearly Arrow 407.

 

I have no idea what Flash is filming but I don't expect all of the Arrow cast to appear in The Flash 208, since the whole point is to launch LoT; which means LoT cast will be the main focus of both Arrow/Flash episodes.   You'll have Arrow, Flash, most of  LoT (I'm thinking Jay Jackson will be missing from the team), Hawkman, Vandal Savage appearing and getting most of the screen time.  I actually don't expect to see supporting cast from Flash on Arrow or vise versa this time around.  Mostly because the crossover aspect will probably be the LoT team members and the leads.

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tv echo

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Regarding Laurel's learning curve, here's the exact spoiler:

Getting anything on Arrow‘s Laurel Lance/Black Canary storyline for Season 4 is like pulling hens’ teeth. Have you heard any spoilers about Laurel that are not Sara- or Quentin-related? –Apple
Since you asked so nicely…. Laurel is “fully arrived as Black Canary when we come back [on Oct. 7],” co-showrunner Wendy Mericle previews. “There’s no more learning curve.” But there are still struggles for Laurel as a costumed crimefighter. For one, “She has a secret identity; how does she grapple with that? And she’s an ADA, so what kind of impact is that going to have on her decisions as Black Canary — and vice versa?”

http://tvline.com/2015/08/17/once-upon-a-time-season-5-belle-merida-spoilers/

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Guest

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Yeah, I'm not sure where all this crossover talk is coming from, the Arrow side is still filming 407, filming ends on 10/1.  They also start filming 408 on 10/1 so there might be some crossover between wrapping up 407 (2nd unit?) and starting 408 on Thursday but I say Tuesday filming is clearly Arrow 407.

 

I think people were confused because of DP/Caitlin being in some of the BTS pictures with the cast. 

SonofaBiscuit

SonofaBiscuit

So again, if you find yourself typing anything close to "[Character X] haters complain about..." or "[Character/show/comic book] fans are mad about..." then you are probably going to post something you shouldn't.

 

Oops.  Very sorry, guys.  I'm guessing this is directed at me.  Problem is that I don't necessarily read or post regularly anymore, so I didn't see the first few warnings about doing this.  Feel free to delete my posts if you need to.  

 

“She has a secret identity; how does she grapple with that? And she’s an ADA, so what kind of impact is that going to have on her decisions as Black Canary — and vice versa?”

 

 

This storyline would have made so much more sense to me if they had done it last season.  I don't even think there were any lawyer Laurel scenes last season, actually (could be wrong, though, skipped like half the episodes).

Chaser

Chaser

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I'm legit expecting a couple of bottle episodes after the Winter break. The new Arrowcave pretty much BEGS for it, even.

I'm okay with this. Bottle episodes can be fun.

Laurel had some Lawyer scenes and IMO they were her best ones. All I'm getting for Laurel is redundant storylines. All about Sara / Closure ( S2 ) and the same superhero identity thing Oliver went thru and will be going tho.

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bijoux

bijoux

I don't even think there were any lawyer Laurel scenes last season, actually (could be wrong, though, skipped like half the episodes).

 

She blocked Ray when he tried to report Oliver for being The Arrow. Which he found out while flying around in his supersuit. So, yeah, explain that one, bubba. It was a pretty sweet scene. There were also some of her physically attacking and/or threatening violence to people under arrest. Definitely during the Brick storyline, but I remember those less clearly.

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tarotx

tarotx

Well last time they had Laurel unamused that Sara was alive and Laurel(well both sisters) was just in a very bad place. This year it may be Laurel who chooses to bring Sara back. So growth? The powers that be trying to fix the stupidness of Laurel angry that Sara was alive?

From TV Guide spoiler:

 

Actually, isn't this her third chance, since this is the second time that Sara's come back from the dead?

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