calliope1975 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 (edited) I'm good if it takes forever for NTA to return to the fold. Edited May 3, 2018 by calliope1975 14 Link to comment
Guest May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, calliope1975 said: I'm good if it takes forever for NTA to return to the fold. I'm good if there's a freak accident and they all die at the same time. Aw, what a shame. Bye then! See you never! Edited May 3, 2018 by Guest Link to comment
Cleanqueen May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 you know these Diaz and BS scenes, read like Diaz and LL scenes...how did BS become so weak and afraid of Diaz...like I dont think she was that awesome but surely all she has to do is scream in to his face and he dies 4 Link to comment
insomniadreams88 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 Rene: "He's in it because of me." I'm actually shocked to hear those words from him. 2 Link to comment
Cleanqueen May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said: Rene: "He's in it because of me." I'm actually shocked to hear those words from him. but he couldn't just say that, instead he had to call Oliver a jerk. Look in the mirror Rene. 5 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 God, Laurel. Stop being an idiot and just melt this dude's brain out of his earholes. It's so small it would probably just roll out like a pebble if you even gave him a half-hearted scream. Also, shut up Rene. 15 Link to comment
Chaser May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 Rene is the worst. The whole BS thing is so cringy. Sorry Beth, they spoiled Tommy’s outfit. 3 Link to comment
Trisha May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 I was a little bummed that I can't watch this episode live cause I'll be on a plane, but then Rene's "Oliver's a jerk; my position on that hasn't changed" made me feel better about it. What a turd. 6 Link to comment
KenyaJ May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 Gee, Rene. You know who else is a jerk? And at least Oliver doesn't outwardly demonstrate his jerkiness by calling people "Hoss" and "Blondie." At this point, Rene could confess to being Green Arrow and go to prison in Oliver's place, and I'd still want him to get shanked in the prison courtyard. 16 Link to comment
Primal Slayer May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 Is it so hard to write an explanation for Diaz having so much power over Siren? It takes like 2 sentences. And she'd be plotting against him after all of this for sure. 3 Link to comment
Guest May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 (edited) They're really gonna act like the newbies supporting Oliver is a good thing, out of the kindness of their hearts, even though their opinion on him hasn't changed? ? Is Oliver supposed to be grateful or something? GTFO RENE. GTFO NEWBIES. YOU SUCK. This whole BS thing is so bad. Do they not realize they've turned her into a weakling? Lame. I wanna hope there's a twist and she's playing everyone but these writers really are that incompetent. Edited May 3, 2018 by Guest Link to comment
lemotomato May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 It’s such terrible writing that in order to insta-“redeem” BS, they inexplicably make her helpless when she’s spent the whole season— heck even as recently as 619– using her powers to kill people without hesitation. Not to mention once again that defecting to the other side for self-preservation reasons doesn’t mean that she’s not evil anymore. 13 Link to comment
KenyaJ May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Angel12d said: They're really gonna act like the newbies supporting Oliver is a good thing, out of the kindness of their hearts, even though their opinion on him hasn't changed? Is Oliver supposed to be grateful or something? Call me crazy, but it seems like actually being on trial, with his wife and son sitting behind him worrying that their family is going to be split up, would only reinforce the extent of Rene's betrayal. On a shallow note, William is adorable in his sweater and tie. 5 Link to comment
Guest May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, KenyaJ said: Call me crazy, but it seems like actually being on trial, with his wife and son sitting behind him worrying that their family is going to be split up, would only reinforce the extent of Rene's betrayal. On a shallow note, William is adorable in his sweater and tie. I mean, I agree with you but Beth is out there saying whatever they do is a chance for Rene to make things right. GTFO. As if! Felicity holding William's hand was adorable. I can't believe I'm actually feeling these things. Haha. Link to comment
Primal Slayer May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, lemotomato said: Not to mention once again that defecting to the other side for self-preservation reasons doesn’t mean that she’s not evil anymore. It's Arrow though. They like taking the easy way if possible. 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 May 3, 2018 Author Share May 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, Angel12d said: This whole BS thing is so bad. Do they not realize they've turned her into a weakling? Lame. I wanna hope there's a twist and she's playing everyone but these writers really are that incompetent. I think they're using a version of The Worf Effect In order to make Dragon a Badass Villain they have a character they showed was strong/deadly and made her scared of him. Oh look Dragon is a major villain BS is afraid of him! 1 Link to comment
Guest May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said: I think they're using a version of The Worf Effect In order to make Dragon a Badass Villain they have a character they showed was strong/deadly and made her scared of him. Oh look Dragon is a major villain BS is afraid of him! Oh dear. They really messed that one up didn't they? ? Link to comment
statsgirl May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Angel12d said: This whole BS thing is so bad. Do they not realize they've turned her into a weakling? Lame. I wanna hope there's a twist and she's playing everyone but these writers really are that incompetent. Is this the episode that the pap said that she's in a lot but her fans aren't going to like her role in it? Cuz I can really see that. Link to comment
Velocity23 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, statsgirl said: Is this the episode that the pap said that she's in a lot but her fans aren't going to like her role in it? Cuz I can really see that. No that was 19. 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Angel12d said: Oh dear. They really messed that one up didn't they? ? They probably shouldn’t have tried this with a villain who could incapacitate him without even having to get close to him. The second he takes his hand off her throat she should sonic blast his brain into lava. But no! They could easily make up a reason why she can’t but it’s Arrow, so. 4 Link to comment
Guest May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, apinknightmare said: They probably shouldn’t have tried this with a villain who could incapacitate him without even having to get close to him. The second he takes his hand off her throat she should sonic blast his brain into lava. But no! They could easily make up a reason why she can’t but it’s Arrow, so. Exactly. I do not buy that the woman who enjoyed snapping necks and can easily melt his brain is suddenly afraid of some guy who made an empire with a 3D printer. But this keeps happening though. She was afraid of Chase too and then started working with Cayden James, it's like she's just controlled by men. It's embarrassing and doesn't make any sense. Link to comment
Primal Slayer May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 It'd be fine if they at least acknowledged that he has a power dampener in his midst or a sniper on the ready or put an implant that'd take off her head. 1 Link to comment
Cleanqueen May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 To be fair, they have shown her to be scared around all these male villains that shes a pawn for. Other than stealing Cayden's money, she hasn't done much to disobey them. 5 Link to comment
Guest May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cleanqueen said: To be fair, they have shown her to be scared around all these male villains that shes a pawn for. Other than stealing Cayden's money, she hasn't done much to disobey them. But why? Do they not realize how that looks? Black Siren: brings down buildings, snaps necks and melts brains. Also, she's afraid of men and obeys them. I'm not even a fan of hers but that's so annoying. At least give us a reason. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 May 3, 2018 Author Share May 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, Angel12d said: But why? Do they not realize how that looks? Black Siren: brings down buildings, snaps necks and melts brains. Also, she's afraid of men and obeys them. I'm not even a fan of hers but that's so annoying. At least give us a reason. I can only assume they're going for a keeps looking for a Daddy Figure ? 3 Link to comment
Primal Slayer May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, Angel12d said: But why? Do they not realize how that looks? Black Siren: brings down buildings, snaps necks and melts brains. Also, she's afraid of men and obeys them. I'm not even a fan of hers but that's so annoying. At least give us a reason. But even she took on Cayden and everyone around when the moment arose. Link to comment
apinknightmare May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 Yeah, she didn’t seem too scared of Cayden and I get being scared of Zoom. She just seemed to do dastardly deeds with Adrian because he let her out of meta jail. No reason at all to be scared of or kowtow to Diaz, who is an idiot. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 This is why i dont see BS sticking around in case Diaz is back in s7. Link to comment
KenyaJ May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, Angel12d said: But why? Do they not realize how that looks? Black Siren: brings down buildings, snaps necks and melts brains. Also, she's afraid of men and obeys them. I'm not even a fan of hers but that's so annoying. At least give us a reason. She's a weak villain who's just there to twist any way the plot blows. The writers haven't bothered to give her any internal motivation, consistent characterization, or actual purpose on the show, unless her purpose was to make us okay with Quentin dying leaving to be reprogrammed. 7 Link to comment
Starfish35 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 I think I'm with @lemotomato. I think they made her afraid of him to promote her redemption arc, to give her a "reason" to be with him other than that she just loves chaos and killing, a way to possibly somehow mitigate her responsibility, I suppose (not that I think it's believable). If she's just an unrepentant killer, no need to give her any other reason to stay with him other than that she just enjoys it. Link to comment
Velocity23 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Starfish35 said: I think I'm with @lemotomato. I think they made her afraid of him to promote her redemption arc, to give her a "reason" to be with him other than that she just loves chaos and killing, a way to possibly somehow mitigate her responsibility, I suppose (not that I think it's believable). If she's just an unrepentant killer, no need to give her any other reason to stay with him other than that she just enjoys it. Honestly it looks like she just gonna do it to save her own ass. Link to comment
bijoux May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Velocity23 said: Honestly it looks like she just gonna do it to save her own ass. Which at least is in character. 1 Link to comment
Cleanqueen May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 I dont know what she does, I need her face gone next season. 6 Link to comment
DeadZeus May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 I would have cared more and would feel more suspense if Oliver and BS had any on screen interactions for the past 5+ episodes... pretty sure they had 0? After this is there 1 or 2 more episodes left? I'm kinda bummed out we will have an episode completely devoid of action so close to the season end.. And the action for the past 3 episodes have already been suuuper low. Actions scene in the show have really taken a hit fml. But Rene... "Oliver is a Jerk..." You mean Oliver? The guy that got you off the Streets? Trusted you with his biggest secret? Gave you a steady job? Helped you get your daughter back? That jerk? What are the writers thinking? Did they really forget what Oliver did for Rene before writing Rene so annoyingly? 6 Link to comment
Cleanqueen May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 This is this year's bottle episode, they always do one every year. The action tend to be low on those and those episodes tend to be my favorite because their more character driven. 5 Link to comment
bijoux May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 William can take on the action segment and trip Rene as he approaches the stairs. Woops. 17 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cleanqueen said: This is this year's bottle episode, they always do one every year. The action tend to be low on those and those episodes tend to be my favorite because their more character driven. Last year's was Underneath, right? I wouldn't say the action there was low. There weren't fight scenes but they had quite a bit of stunts. 3 Link to comment
Primal Slayer May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 It's funny that Siren threatened Diaz in 6x17 but now that he got that ring..... Link to comment
Primal Slayer May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 And when did Diaz stop treating Siren as a valued general/girlfriend? Has she continued to not return his phone calls? Link to comment
Morrigan2575 May 3, 2018 Author Share May 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, Cleanqueen said: This is this year's bottle episode, they always do one every year. The action tend to be low on those and those episodes tend to be my favorite because their more character driven. I know 520 was a bottle episode, what were the other ones? Link to comment
calliope1975 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 40 minutes ago, bijoux said: William can take on the action segment and trip Rene as he approaches the stairs. Woops. I'm still not a fan of William, but this would go a long way to getting me to rethink that position. I might even take him off my blacklist on Tumblr (yes, he irritates me that much.) 1 Link to comment
Cleanqueen May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Morrigan2575 said: I know 520 was a bottle episode, what were the other ones? I think The Promise in season 2 was also a bottle episode. Link to comment
insomniadreams88 May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 (edited) ETA: As soon as I mention no sneak peeks out... Edited May 3, 2018 by insomniadreams88 sneak peek posted Link to comment
apinknightmare May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 (edited) Maybe she's just spoiling plans or does she not know this Laurel is not actually an attorney? Or Black Canary? Edited May 3, 2018 by apinknightmare 4 Link to comment
Mellowyellow May 3, 2018 Share May 3, 2018 I knew she was coming back. She'd probably still be there even if the entire cast left! 17 Link to comment
Starfish35 May 4, 2018 Share May 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said: I knew she was coming back. She'd probably still be there even if the entire cast left! Lol. :) Link to comment
Cleanqueen May 4, 2018 Share May 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mellowyellow said: I knew she was coming back. She'd probably still be there even if the entire cast left! You're not wrong...LMAO 1 Link to comment
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