bijoux February 14, 2016 Share February 14, 2016 May I extend tweets from DR's panel as an olive branch so we can get back on topic? Show, can we, please, embrace this attitude? It's so much more sensible than Malcolm's pseudo care and other characters buying it. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1958421
Velocity23 February 14, 2016 Share February 14, 2016 I am getting Merlyn/Felicity! Malcolm loves that Felicity is the one who consistently hates him but can't tease a thing about upcoming "Merlicity" scenes. #dallascomiccon https://twitter.com/Olicitweet/status/698981060655185920 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1958566
SmallScreenDiva February 14, 2016 Share February 14, 2016 I am getting Merlyn/Felicity! https://twitter.com/Olicitweet/status/698981060655185920 Wait, I read that to mean there are no Malcolm/Felicity scenes to tease, LOL! I'd be happy to get #Malicity, though, because I really enjoy Felicity's glaring and snarkiness. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1958571
lemotomato February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 From Funko's Instagram account: 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1959814
Chaser February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Her head is so big. All those smarts I guess. LOL 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1959858
wonderwall February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 SOMEONE has to, you know, promote Arrow on valentines day. Unfortunately the Arrow PR department is snoozing 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1959962
looptab February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I don't usually buy merchandise for shows I watch - or anything, really - but those damn Funkos are so cute I might just make an exception. Gahh! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1959971
wonderwall February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I don't usually buy merchandise for shows I watch - or anything, really - but those damn Funkos are so cute I might just make an exception. Gahh! Do it. They're so adorable T_T This is the first piece of show merchandise I've ever bought (Excluding the amount I donated to the VM movie, which I got a great autograph from Jason Dohring and the DVD ;)) and I don't regret it! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1959984
bijoux February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Her head is so big. All those smarts I guess. LOL Ha, I didn't even notice it was bigger than his until I went back to look after your post. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960085
EmilyBettFan February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Her hair adds extra length. They are so cute. Just waiting for my Felicity pops to come. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960131
wonderwall February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Tihis is such a sweet photo. I miss Colin and Susanna 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960169
bijoux February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Why, why do you do this to me? I just manage to tamper my feelings down and then you bring them back up. And bonus: you bring up the scene in which he calls Oliver son. Bring back Walter! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960181
tv echo February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) More vid clips from this weekend's Dallas ComicCon... Stephen Amell Q & A highlight (talks about TMNT2 movie)Published on Feb 15, 2016, by Temple of Geek John Barrowman and Mini-Quinn DCC 2016Published on Feb 14, 2016, by Arrow TV12 John Barrowman Performs "A Thousand Years" at Dallas Comic Con Fan Days 2016Published on Feb 14, 2016, by Skaldic Media Some pics from Dallas ComicCon...https://twitter.com/kooseman/status/699022893003345920https://twitter.com/carlabell02/status/699008030042533889https://twitter.com/dallascomiccon/status/698977229385154561 Edited February 15, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960441
tv echo February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) Apparently Danielle Panabaker - who also cancelled a scheduled appearance at Dallas ComicCon - was at NY Fashion Week... Katie Cassidy@MzKatieCassidyLook who I bumped into! @dpanabaker #nyc #nyfw @jennypackham 5:14 PM - 14 Feb 2016 https://twitter.com/MzKatieCassidy/status/699039115875065857 Edited February 15, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960900
apinknightmare February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 The @ replies. LOL. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960921
tv echo February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) According to these tweets, EK in a periscope vid (no longer viewable) indicated that he knows who's in the grave and can't say and that he has no clue what episode it'll be in:https://twitter.com/EchoK/status/698708028938268672 At this weekend's Dallas ComicCon, SA said that he didn't know yet who's in the grave. Hmm... Edited February 15, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960944
tv echo February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) Check out the Olicity-related reply tweets to this recent DC Comics poll... DC Comics @DCComicsValentine's Day is here, so we want to know; Who's your favorite DC ship? The vote is open until midnight PST.36% Batman & Catwoman14% Grayson & Starfire41% Joker & Harley Quinn09% Batwoman & Maggie17,317 votes • Final results10:01 AM - 14 Feb 2016 https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/698929978713333760 Edited February 15, 2016 by tv echo 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960968
SonofaBiscuit February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Serious question. Is there a specific reason that these people cite "extended filming" as an excuse for cancelling their con appearances when they're clearly not actually filming? Do the people that organize the cons have some list of accepted excuses for getting out of your appearance, or something? Why not just tell the truth and say you're going to Fashion Week? I mean, you're not fooling anyone here...there's photographic evidence of what you're really doing! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960970
looptab February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 The @ replies. LOL. That brought me to a hilarious one sided convo involving Gail Simone. LOL Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960989
Sunshine February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 According to these tweets, EK in a periscope vid (no longer viewable) indicated that he knows who's in the grave and can't say and that he has no clue what episode it'll be in: https://twitter.com/EchoK/status/698708028938268672 At this weekend's Dallas ComicCon, SA said that he didn't know yet who's in the grave. Hmm... I don't know is probably the easiest and quickest way to shut down a line of questioning. They have really clamped down on spoilers this year and I imagine TPTB would be highly upset if one of the actors/crew spilled that particular info. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1960993
apinknightmare February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) Yeah, after MG and WM's visit to set, and SA's tweet about the script that it's highly likely that everyone knows who's in the grave. Saying they don't know - like SA did - is just a good way of shutting down the questioning, like @Sunshine wrote. Also, if KC is going to keep canceling fan events to do fashion stuff, she should probably figure out a better way to post about it. It's a difficult line to walk, switching out one thing for another when she's trying to get the blog some exposure, but someone on her team needs to help her out with that, since it comes off as, "I canceled on you, sorry, but look at this fun thing I'm doing instead!" Even if it's just advising her not to book anything outside of Arrow during Fashion Week just in case something comes up. Edited February 15, 2016 by apinknightmare 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961022
Sunshine February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Serious question. Is there a specific reason that these people cite "extended filming" as an excuse for cancelling their con appearances when they're clearly not actually filming? Do the people that organize the cons have some list of accepted excuses for getting out of your appearance, or something? Why not just tell the truth and say you're going to Fashion Week? I mean, you're not fooling anyone here...there's photographic evidence of what you're really doing! Work obligations is most cited. Perhaps DallasComicCon made an assumption. Katie saying work obligations isn't a lie. My question would be did she get a last minute invite? (No clue how NYFW works). Shortly after being stranded in NY for HVFF NJ Katie tweeted something about when you think things are falling apart they just are starting to fall into place. Some assumed she was talking about Arrow. Perhaps she was referencing her fashion blog? If that's the case then her last minute cancellation is even worse because if fans were travelling to Dallas primarily to see KC they might be able to get refunds for her photo ops but they might be out the cost of travel as some hotels require 24-48 hours cancellation notice without penalty. Danielle at least cancelled a week out. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961034
Sakura12 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) Why doesn't KC just not schedule a con in February? Fashion Week and the Dallas con are around the same time every year. Problem solved. Instead she let's her fans spend tons of money twice (last year and this year) hoping to see her then she cancels at the last minute. I'm also assuming she knew months in advance when fashion week was so she could've cancelled her con appearance months ago. Edited February 15, 2016 by Sakura12 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961042
looptab February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Yeah, how does Fashion week work? Do they need an invite to attend? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961053
Delphi February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Yeah, how does Fashion week work? Do they need an invite to attend? A lot of the shows are by invitation only. But then they also have bigger events that are open to more people, like fashion blogs, magazines and the like. I believe. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961069
Velocity23 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Stephens whole panel 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961111
wonderwall February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 That brought me to a hilarious one sided convo involving Gail Simone. LOL wait what happened? :p Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961160
Velocity23 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961190
looptab February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Yeah, that, and subsequent apple-flavored reactions. LOL Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961203
dtissagirl February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I love Gail Simone so hard. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961222
tarotx February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 LOL what brought that on? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961248
SonofaBiscuit February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) Seriously. Someday, I will get to write the Black Canary for tv again and I will make her the goddamn BLACK CANARY. Hmm. Is this shade for Arrow writing the Black Canary but making her the WHITE CANARY? I'm just going to pretend it is. Edited February 15, 2016 by SonofaBiscuit 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961283
Sakura12 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) Hmm. Is this shade for Arrow writing the Black Canary but making her the WHITE CANARY? I'm just going to pretend it is. Even if it's not. I love that a Comic Black Canary writer sees nothing Black Canary in Laurel. Edited February 15, 2016 by Sakura12 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961416
Chaser February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I know that GS always says she has never seen Arrow, but I have a hard time believing she never checked it out. I would be at least curious. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961428
dtissagirl February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I know that GS always says she has never seen Arrow, but I have a hard time believing she never checked it out. I would be at least curious. She's changed her story -- back during the hiatus between S1 and S2, someone I follow on Twitter asked her if she'd seen the show, and she replied that she'd seen some of it. I figured she hated it, and it's more diplomatic to say she hasn't seen it. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961445
statsgirl February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Apparently Danielle Panabaker - who also cancelled a scheduled appearance at Dallas ComicCon - was at NY Fashion Week... There goes my defending Danielle Panabaker about The Flash. There is something off to me about deciding to cancel appearances for fans about the role making you popular in favor of parties and extreme fashion. Although I understand now why DP and KC are roommates. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961548
spartan February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Yeah, after MG and WM's visit to set, and SA's tweet about the script that it's highly likely that everyone knows who's in the grave. Saying they don't know - like SA did - is just a good way of shutting down the questioning, like @Sunshine wrote. Also, if KC is going to keep canceling fan events to do fashion stuff, she should probably figure out a better way to post about it. It's a difficult line to walk, switching out one thing for another when she's trying to get the blog some exposure, but someone on her team needs to help her out with that, since it comes off as, "I canceled on you, sorry, but look at this fun thing I'm doing instead!" Even if it's just advising her not to book anything outside of Arrow during Fashion Week just in case something comes up. I think it's hard for her to see if she has time to do that or something else, it's not easy to cancel, I hope it will update, because it is true that it is quite incomprehensible for the fans, but, i mean, she is an actress, model and a fashion blog Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961552
Midnight Lullaby February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 Katie used to cancel cons very often last year talking about "work obligations" and no one really knew what she meant. Last year she was supposed to be in Dallas for the con, she cancelled and than it came out she was shopping in Dallas because she posted about it herself. I don't know how the fans felt about it..LOL At least this time she had some sort of excuse, but if she gave a few days of notice maybe the con could have replaced her with someone else, like they did with DP. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961588
calliope1975 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) When I clicked the Twitter link above, I saw the below update. It is perfectly fine that KC runs a blog. That is legitimate work and being at Fashion Week is part of that. It's that she and/or her people should have never booked the Dallas Con to begin with knowing there would be a conflict. (And it doesn't take more than a Google search to know there would be a conflict.) Katie Cassidy @MzKatieCassidy 2h2 hours agoTo clarify, I had work in NYC. Not work for arrow, but work for my fashion blog @TomboyKC Edited February 15, 2016 by calliope1975 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961633
Midnight Lullaby February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I think she owes more to her own business than to a few geeks at a convention. No-one owes anyone at these conventions jack. Those "few geeks" are her fans though. And fans who paid money to see her. Checking she is free or at least giving a few days of notice seems like common, decent behavior to me. It's about respecting people. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961669
HighHopes February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) I think she owes more to her own business than to a few geeks at a convention. No-one owes anyone at these conventions jack. When you make a commitment, you owe it to the person you are making that commitment to, to follow through. There's a difference between not making the commitment to go at all (EBR, GG) and saying you are going, and then bailing at the last minute, repeatedly. Edit: I just googled it, and apparently the dates for New York Fashion Week 2017 are already set, so really there is no excuse for KC a) scheduling a con this week and b) scheduling it, and then cancelling it at the last minute imo. Edited February 15, 2016 by HighHopes 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961678
Starfish35 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I think she owes more to her own business than to a few geeks at a convention. No-one owes anyone at these conventions jack. Well then why did she book the con in the first place? It's not like the dates for both events weren't known way in advance. She didn't have to wait until the last minute to cancel. Even Danielle gave them a week's notice, something KC didn't bother to do. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961683
catrox14 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) I think she owes more to her own business than to a few geeks at a convention. No-one owes anyone at these conventions jack. Oh man. That's quite an underestimation of the power of the THOUSANDS of "geeks" that go to conventions to see her specifically. These cons are not cheap. And these geeks buy a LOT of Arrow/Black Canary mdse. It's not as though this is the first time she's done this either. Edited February 15, 2016 by catrox14 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961701
looptab February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 (edited) No, we're talking about those fans who do NOT hate her. And the cons appearances mostly benefit her, it's not like she goes for free. Edited February 15, 2016 by looptab 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961728
apinknightmare February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 And according to this forum they all hate her. Wouldn't surprise me if she's 'advised strongly' to go by the overgrown teenagers that run Arrow and needs another work commitment to get out of it. I'm really hoping it's Laurel who's killed off mostly so Katie can move on to a show where she's treated with respect. No one ever said they all hate her, where are you getting that? I wouldn't pay to see her there, and it seems as if a lot of other posters wouldn't, but her actual fans do, which is why she agrees to go in the first place. They're money-making opportunities for these people, and some choose not to participate, like Emily and Grant Gustin, and others do. Katie's one who chooses to go, but seems to cancel pretty often, which has to disappoint her fans. But, hey...if she doesn't care, then I sure don't. Just seems like a bad move to repeatedly make. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961731
catrox14 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 And according to this forum they all hate her. Wouldn't surprise me if she's 'advised strongly' to go by the overgrown teenagers that run Arrow and needs another work commitment to get out of it. I'm really hoping it's Laurel who's killed off mostly so Katie can move on to a show where she's treated with respect. Regardless of the outlet discussing the show, she has thousands of fans that like her and Laurel and her version of Black Canary. It's those convention goers that she is disappointing with these last minute cancellations. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961741
Velocity23 February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 This could have been easily avoided for KC if she herself would have stated the reason of her absence from the con. She was still fav things about the con on Wednesday. Even fav the cons countdown with LL as BC. But she choose to leave the explanation to the con and they stated it was due to filming for #Arrow. Now it seems her choosing to go to NYFW was a last minute decision and that makes no sense. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961742
dtissagirl February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I actually wonder how much money has KC lost con organizers with the cancellations at the last minute. Do they pay for her travel? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961762
lemotomato February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 I think she owes more to her own business than to a few geeks at a convention. No-one owes anyone at these conventions jack. No one is forcing her to go to conventions. The network has nothing to do with Con appearances except for San Diego Comic Con. The point is that she agrees to go, and then bails out last minute, or she goes but shows up late and misses scheduled photo and autograph sessions. If her business is more important, then she shouldn't agree to go in the first place. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961775
statsgirl February 15, 2016 Share February 15, 2016 If she needs an excuse to skip the fan commitment, then she shouldn't keep re-booking more cons and cancelling them too. If she's only doing it for the Arrow bosses, cancelling at the last minute to shop or prioritize Fashion Week isn't going to win her favors either with the producers or the fans. I think she owes more to her own business than to a few geeks at a convention. No-one owes anyone at these conventions jack. I appreciate that she's trying to set up a fashion business but who does she think is going to go to her blog to read what she thinks is the new big fashions? The fans of her TV shows, I'd venture. I looked at it but as far as I could see, there's nothing on her blog that is different or new enough to read unless you like her acting work. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2872-social-media-and-behind-the-scenes-aka-everything-else-not-news-and-media/page/318/#findComment-1961777
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