jay741982 January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Hey I love Olicity, they are what got me watching the show and I like Raylicity too. And I'm neutral to hating Laurel (it will depend on what the show does with her in these next few episodes). Let me Apoligze I was angry at this Freaking show and Spouted off. I find Raylicity gross and Im pissed at the writing for my girl Felicity the depths these idiot writers go to make Ray look like he's an actual threat Is appalling Link to comment
Delphi January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Just watched Emily's bathroom therapy. I love this girl so much it's insane. 3 Link to comment
SleepDeprived January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Maybe it's 'cause I haven't had coffee and my neurons aren't firing on all cylinders yet, but I don't quite understand what MG seems to be implying. Why would the people dissing him about not making KC Black Canary last year say anything now when they're actually getting what they want? Sara's dead and Laurel's the show's BC so what's odd about not complaining about getting what they want? That's actually a good thing, right? 7 Link to comment
calliope1975 January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 I also don't understand that tweet. Does he want praise? Maybe those people have quit the show. He confuses me. I can gladly go tweet him some shade for the crap he's writing if he'd like. 10 Link to comment
pivot January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 MG is an idiot. He's ignoring the large negative reaction to Laurel/BC from the past two weeks. He better hope that there are a lot more KC/Laurel fans out there to balance out those fleeing from the new BC show. 3 Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Yeah, I'm wondering if he thinks that BC/KC fans should be bowing down and praising him for giving them what they want? Link to comment
Sakura12 January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 How is it odd that the people that wanted Laurel as BC got what they wanted are silent? They got what they wanted! Or is he upset that they are not praising him for the idiotic and illogical way she got there? Link to comment
AnalyzeAndCritique January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 I'd make an appointment with reality for him, but I doubt he could follow his GPS to find the office. He doesn't take direction well. 15 Link to comment
KenyaJ January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 I can gladly go tweet him some shade for the crap he's writing if he'd like. It's taking all the restraint I have not to do exactly that. I don't believe in tweeting negativity to people, but he's challenging my resolve with that tweet. 3 Link to comment
Belinea January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Well it is almost like he is asking for it so you wouldn't even have to feel guilty. You could tweet him that these people might have quit watching the show and therefore don't concern themselves with LL anymore. 2 Link to comment
apinknightmare January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 (edited) It's taking all the restraint I have not to do exactly that. I don't believe in tweeting negativity to people, but he's challenging my resolve with that tweet. I replied to that tweet - but it wasn't about Laurel becoming BC, I asked him if he didn't see those people in his timeline because it was filled with people upset about Laurel being a terrible person by impersonating her sister. I was nice about it though. Edited January 29, 2015 by apinknightmare 7 Link to comment
dtissagirl January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Oh, wow. I had never seen a showrunner purposefully throw shade at the wrong side of the fandom before. Congrats on a first, Guggentroll! 4 Link to comment
pigs-in-space January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Ugh, this is why I hate it when showrunners engage too much with their fandom like this. It always, ALWAYS ends up leaving a bad taste in my mouth. It's a hard balance to strike, but I think too little is better than too much in these cases. 2 Link to comment
statsgirl January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 It really does sound like he wants people to tweet "Oh Marc, you are so amazing and this arc is just perfect. I'm so sorry I didn't have faith in you." I tweeted him that between InstaCanary, Raylicity and angst spoilers, I'm thinking of skipping the next bunch of episodes. I doubt he'll reply to me though. Maybe I need to tell him how wonderful he is first. 9 Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Maybe I need to tell him how wonderful he is first. That does seem to be the magic ticket. This dude loves being showered with compliments, I think. I noticed that a lot of the questions that he answers seem to include praise telling him how wonderful he is. Link to comment
AnyoneButYou January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 I tweeted him that between InstaCanary, Raylicity and angst spoilers, I'm thinking of skipping the next bunch of episodes. I doubt he'll reply to me though. Maybe I need to tell him how wonderful he is first. Or tell him you'll buy his book if he replies. That usually gets a response from him, too. 3 Link to comment
Chiny11 January 29, 2015 Share January 29, 2015 Wow... This is comedy gold (and not in a good way). Is he serious? Link to comment
catrox14 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 The show may be disappointing me, but EBR remains a delightful weirdo. Well, that's it. I can't help it. After hearing her rattle off the love of pies, I MUST have Felicity and Dean Winchester eat pie together. And I'm pretty sure I'll be shipping Deanlicity hard core forever now. 1 Link to comment
NoWayOut January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 From Stephen's Facebook: Q: One truth and two lies? A: Felicity tells Oliver to leave her alone romantically. Brick beats up Merlyn. Oliver doesn't make it back to Starling. Link to comment
Delphi January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Ugh, its pretty obvious that the first is going to be the truth. Because Olicity needs morrreeee pain to make the romance epic, cue sighing. 1 Link to comment
statsgirl January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) Sadly, the first is going to be the true and then I'll have to stop watching this show. Isn't Merlyn supposed to be some super-ninja? Why does Brick never get beaten up himself? Wow... This is comedy gold (and not in a good way). Is he serious? No one spends that much time on twitter if he doesn't have a huge ego. Edited January 30, 2015 by statsgirl Link to comment
jay741982 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Sadly, the first is going to be the true and then I'll have to stop watching this show. Isn't Merlyn supposed to be some super-ninja? Why does Brick never get beaten up himself? No one spends that much time on twitter if he doesn't have a huge ego. How come? We all know Felicity loves him. I'm still thinking/Hoping she pushes him away so he can do what he needs to do to beat Ra's/Malcolm. Remember how she said she was afraid he would use his humanity against him. Maybe she feels if he doesn't think she loves him he will be able to focus more 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 (edited) Apparently BR is going to the Salt Lake Comic Con (Jan. 29-31, Salt Lake City, Utah)... Brandon Routh @BrandonJRouth · 16h 16 hours agoSolid group! “@_HeroesForHire: Enroute to @slcomiccon with @feliciaday @AlainaHuffman @BrandonJRouth & @Laurie_Holden !! #SLCcomiccon #SLC” https://twitter.com/brandonjrouth Oh JB (go to Whosay page to see pic of Malcolm POP doll))... He can now sit next to my #MalcomMerlyn custom made Funko jb @OriginalFunko http://www.whosay.com/status/johnbarrowman/1063247?wsref=tw&code=TAWa5zG Yep, she's not going anywhere... Geoff Johns @geoffjohns · Jan 28I love you @MzKatieCassidy https://twitter.com/geoffjohns Maybe John Campea will change his mind now... John Campea @johncampea · 20h 20 hours agoWow, over 8k people watched our Arrow After Show over night which is a new overnight record for a non-Stephen Amell guest episode. *sigh :P https://twitter.com/johncampea Edited January 30, 2015 by tv echo Link to comment
Serena January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 Why couldn't the truth be that Brick beats up Merlyn, and the other two are lies? Seems possible/likely, plus Stephen wouldn't be spoiling an important development in a random FB post. The Olicity thing would be huge to spoil, while it's kind of a given that Brick will be beating up people left and right. 1 Link to comment
tv echo January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 I had previously posted a pic of the Arrow cast wall (albeit in the wrong thread), so here's a pic of what appears to be part of The Flash cast wall (posted by GG):http://instagram.com/p/yeaE_zgVMR/ Link to comment
statsgirl January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 I have the feeling John Campea won't change his mind unless the show changes. Too much at stake to be seen giving in. Why couldn't the truth be that Brick beats up Merlyn, and the other two are lies? Seems possible/likely, plus Stephen wouldn't be spoiling an important development in a random FB post. The Olicity thing would be huge to spoil, while it's kind of a given that Brick will be beating up people left and right. I think Brick is on for only 3 episodes, which means 312 would be his last. Also, there was a preview picture with him blooded and wounded I think. But oh, how I would love it if Brick did beat up Merlyn after Laurel and Roy insisted they needed him to join . Are episode descriptions and photographs considered spoilers? Link to comment
calliope1975 January 30, 2015 Share January 30, 2015 I also think there was an increase in Campea's show because people wanted to see what he would say and if he would follow through with quitting being the first major appearance of Blah Canary. 9 Link to comment
apinknightmare January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I also think there was an increase in Campea's show because people wanted to see what he would say and if he would follow through with quitting being the first major appearance of Blah Canary. It's funny though, because he didn't indicate during his show that he was considering quitting. He went off on Diggle being left in the foundry while Laurel went out and dealt with the hostage situation with the alderman and how Felicity lost her mind when she went and told Laurel that she should suit up and said that was the first time in the history of the show he felt the writers disrespected his intelligence. I guess he continued to stew on that after the show was over, because it seemed throughout like he was going to keep tuning in. Link to comment
statsgirl January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 He said in his tweet that he deliberately tried to keep his bitterness out of the show, to make it more entertaining for the audience I presume. But he must have decided before or at least been thinking about it because the tweet that he was quitting came fairly soon afterwards. Link to comment
AnyoneButYou January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I was kind of surprised by how subdued Campea was considering how they all agreed it was the worst episode of Arrow. Ann and Kaori didn't seem remotely enthused about being there. I don't think he'll change his mind. He's said a lot in the past that this isn't his dayjob. He's a movie guy, and for him to devote his time to a tv show, it has to be pretty special. I'd imagine taking the time to do the show takes up a good bit of his Wednesday nights. He has to watch the episode, slog through all those tweets, drive to wherever they film, film, and drive home in one night. It's gotta suck that he spent all that energy on a show that ultimately ended up disappointing him. 7 Link to comment
apinknightmare January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 He said in his tweet that he deliberately tried to keep his bitterness out of the show, to make it more entertaining for the audience I presume. But he must have decided before or at least been thinking about it because the tweet that he was quitting came fairly soon afterwards. Ah, okay. I don't follow him on Twitter, so I didn't see any of that. Link to comment
foreverevolving January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 If i had to bet i would say they probably watch the east coast airing at the studio (so many ways to do it online and do it legally) and then they go about preferring the after show. To be honest i agree with him- the entire canary arc this season is a big insult to viewers intelligence, with that being said I'm gonna stick a bit more because i am hoping the ep's will wise up and give us our repay by the end of the season. (If they do it by getting rid of the show fool I'll be the happiest, Link to comment
statsgirl January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 It makes sense that they watch the east coast airing because then they drive to wherever their studio is and put the show on right after the west coast airing. Marc Guggenheim may not have heard of John Campea and his show but the CW has since he opened his show talking about just having gone to a CW even with an Arrow writer. (Didn't say which writer it was) Link to comment
Sakura12 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Campea used to the Aftershow at his house. It's only this season they started doing at a studio. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 It makes sense that they watch the east coast airing because then they drive to wherever their studio is and put the show on right after the west coast airing. Marc Guggenheim may not have heard of John Campea and his show but the CW has since he opened his show talking about just having gone to a CW even with an Arrow writer. (Didn't say which writer it was) Oleson, I think he wrote 311. It was the CW Fan Talk thing. Link to comment
Chaser January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Oleson, I think he wrote 311. It was the CW Fan Talk thing. He was with the writer of the "worst episode of the series"? AWKWARD 5 Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Haha, so Campea went to an event with one of the writers responsible for writing the very episode that made him quit because he thought the writing was so insulting that is was disrespecting his intelligence? That's hilarious. ETA: OK, I looked it up. 3x11 was written by Wendy Mericle and Ben Sokolowski, not Erik Oleson (Oleson wrote 3x10 w/ Guggenheim). Well that's just not as funny now. Edited January 31, 2015 by SonofaBiscuit 5 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 He was with the writer of the "worst episode of the series"? AWKWARDI honestly don't know. I heard it was Oleson and I figured if they had any writer on that night it would be the one who wrote the episode they were promoting. Link to comment
Carrie Ann January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Oleson and MG also co-wrote 314 together; you know, the one MG just said was his favorite Season 3 episode, because it's just really special, a love letter to the fans. Like, damn, buddy, it would probably look better to name someone else's episode when asked. 1 Link to comment
Delphi January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Incidentally, Statsgirl, do you have a link to the interview you spoke of in midnight city where Andrew said that Felicity was leading team arrow? Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 Oleson and MG also co-wrote 314 together; you know, the one MG just said was his favorite Season 3 episode, because it's just really special, a love letter to the fans. Like, damn, buddy, it would probably look better to name someone else's episode when asked.Wow, that's weird. You'd think they'd have the 311 writer on to talk about 311 right before 311 aired :) Link to comment
Chaser January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I thought the writers were on rotation. Is it weird to have the same writer for 11 and 14? Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) I thought the writers were on rotation. Is it weird to have the same writer for 11 and 14? Just looked Oleson co-wrote 310 an 314 with MG. 311 was Wendy Mericle & Ben Sokolowski Edited January 31, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
wonderwall January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I hate saying this, but the women on the writing team are the worst. smh The women and now adding to the list, Ben. 4 Link to comment
statsgirl January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Ben Sokolowski was one of the writers for 305, the Secret Origins of Felicity Smoak and Flash vs Arrow. Weird to have her so OOC in 311. Delphi, I'm looking. Haven't found the link yet, but it's one of the interview from the TCA event. Meanwhile, here's a quote from David Ramsey With his military acumen and her techno-smarts, original team members Diggle and Felicity “become essentially the leaders on Team Arrow,” Ramsey adds. and another from Guggenheim Felicity will have her own journey in the latter half of this season, Guggenheim promised: “Felicity is a hero in her own right. There’s different forms of heroism on both shows. The beauty of Felicity is that she’s the moral center of ‘Arrow’ and that’s actually the role that she starts to ascend to post-episode 309 where she’s the conscience. In many ways, she starts off trying to be Oliver’s voice in his absence and then starts to develop her own way of thinking about things. She’s always been very confident but she really comes into her own after Oliver’s apparent death.” Edited January 31, 2015 by statsgirl Link to comment
AnyoneButYou January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 (edited) Campea used to the Aftershow at his house. It's only this season they started doing at a studio. That might make it even worse since I think this has been the worst season of the show. Edited January 31, 2015 by AnyoneButYou Link to comment
writersblock51 January 31, 2015 Share January 31, 2015 I generally like Ben Sokolowski's work. Not a fan of Wendy Mericle or Beth Schwartz. And MG's work on the show AND paper consistently underwhelms me. So while I'm surprised Ben S was working on this episode, I'm not ready to proactively eye roll every future episode he's working on. But Wendy M, Beth S and MG? Yes. The GJ tweet seemed so incredibly random that it rattled me. I like him a lot - in the comics and for the various shows. I don't remember seeing him give that kind of declaration to any other cast members, either. So does it actually mean - "contract renewal" or was he showing support in the event that the reviews of the episode, and her performance, were harsh? or are they having an affair (which would explain quite a bit and would confirm my husband's long time theory of how she remains on the show)? I do think the cast and crew have shown KC a lot of social media love around specific episodes but it seems to be a one way street. 4 Link to comment
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