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[TheGreenWave]

4 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

OMG it's actually gotten hilarious. Last night the Peterson family was trying to spin the whole story about Scott being on the border with 10,000 dollars in cash. They said someone named Jackie (his mother?) accidentally withdrew 10K and then paid him back in cash. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttt??????????????? How can you "accidentally" withdraw $10,000? It's not like you can go to an ATM and punch in $100 and it accidentally spits out 10K. This is ridiculous! Has this family actually convinced themselves this can be true? They're just as in denial as Scott! I also love how they think "he was going to play golf" actually makes him look better, considering this is the day they identified the remains of his wife and baby. 

This "limited series" has become unintentionally parody.

What??  You mean this doesn't happen to everyone??  Happens to me all. the. time.  I can totally picture Jackie saying, oh, oops, I just took out 10K more than I intended!  How crazy is that?!?!  Son, would you put this money in a half-torn envelope and bring it back to the bank after you leave it in your car in a parking lot for an afternoon of golfing.  Yes?  Thanks!!  And don't forget to bring nine cell phones with you!

Ugh.  Also noticed that Scott, when he thinks that the cops are the media following him, doesn't say something like: hey!  how did they find me since I'm trying to be all incognito with my dyed hair and beard??  That would have been my first reaction (I guess, if I were trying to evade cops and the media because I'm the number one suspect in the murder of my wife and baby.....), not that I'm trying to be super spy and drive like an idiot to "lose" them.  Please.

I still strongly dislike that woman reporter.  She was/is thirsty...very, very thirsty.

Ok, snark rant over.

[KellsBells]

12 hours ago, azshadowwalker said:

I used to get Drew and Scott confused, but I didn't really know Stacy's name. I only remembered Laci. 

BTW: Stacy named her daughter Lacy. So, yes, Drew Peterson has a daughter named Lacy Peterson. 

6 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I recall that one. If it's the one I'm thinking of, she was charged criminally and served time in prison for allowing the man to have access to her daughter. 

She was, but I think only got probation. 

[Otter]

Re;, Scott Peterson -- The family broke the law in defending him.  I get that, I really do, but they went SO far.  Little details come back into memory, and one is that the family set up their own hotline.  One of the detectives called in a "tip" that implicated SP and when the family was asked for the recordings, that one was conveniently omitted.  Here's an article that triggers more memories, not all-encompassing, but how deep the lies went down to perjury (not mentioned in the article)

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/11/court.archive.peterson10/

BTW, I'm so ambivalent about the DP.  Some people I believe do need to die (like Ted Bundy) but then there's the likes of SP who won't go away and will get years and years of appeals.  If he got LWOP, maybe we'd never hear of him again.  I can't imagine Laci's family having to relive this nightmare.  And for the Petersons, who decried and railed against the media embracing this propaganda shows them to be the hypocrites they always were.  

[SunnyBeBe]

16 hours ago, KellsBells said:

BTW: Stacy named her daughter Lacy. So, yes, Drew Peterson has a daughter named Lacy Peterson. 

She was, but I think only got probation. 

Probation....hmmm....I"m trying to recall the name.  It seems to me that the one I am thinking of, the mother was interviewed in prison clothes.  I'll have to check.  In the one I recall, the teen girl was home alone for some reason.  Her mother and this sex predator were separated, as child protective services had insisted.  But, this man drove from where he was living to the house where the teen was.  He claimed he left and she was fine.  But, in reality, he had tried to rape her and he killed her when she fought back.  I'm not sure know if he hid the body or left her in the home.  It'll probably replay again.  They seem to have a limited number of shows on that station. I recall how the mother's tears didn't mean much to me, after they told of how she brought this predator into the family, EVEN after she knew of his history abusing children.  I have no patience for people like that. 

Edited August 31, 2017 by SunnyBeBe

[auntjess]

I remember one where the daughter was an adult, I think married, and was killed in her own home.
It turned  out to be her mother's husband, who'd been shown supporting the mother in her grief.
Can't remember which show, but saw it several months ago.

[Annber03]

...okay, so I think I'm going to need to make sure I have a crapton of Kleenex on hand when I watch "Shattered". I just caught up with last night's episode and I am literally sobbing right now. I actually gasped out loud and said, "OH MY GOD" at that ending. That poor, poor girl. 

[Josette]

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I remember one where the daughter was an adult, I think married, and was killed in her own home.
It turned  out to be her mother's husband, who'd been shown supporting the mother in her grief.
Can't remember which show, but saw it several months ago.

Was it about Jessica Padgett?  I know I watched that case on See No Evil.  He killed her so he could abuse her corpse.  And he filmed it.  His name is Gregory Graf and he was in the news recently because he's contesting the terms of the divorce from the mother.

[SunnyBeBe]

16 hours ago, Annber03 said:

...okay, so I think I'm going to need to make sure I have a crapton of Kleenex on hand when I watch "Shattered". I just caught up with last night's episode and I am literally sobbing right now. I actually gasped out loud and said, "OH MY GOD" at that ending. That poor, poor girl. 

This episode was extremely disturbing.  The first part was rather confusing to me and it seemed difficult to follow.  Later, it came together.  I wonder what happened to the younger daughter's dad, who was later murdered.  The odds of having both parents killed from murder.....boggles the mind.  

Oh, in the beginning of Shattered, the young daughter returns from a fishing trip to try to find her mom in the house.  Who was with the child?  The re-enactment shows another woman with her. Who was that?  It appeared that it might have been a family friend, who didn't want to be included in the tv show.  

I did a little searching online, but, couldn't find anything about the young daughter's dad's murder.  If anyone finds anything, will you post or PM me? I'm curious. 

Edited September 1, 2017 by SunnyBeBe

[KellsBells]

23 hours ago, auntjess said:

I remember one where the daughter was an adult, I think married, and was killed in her own home.
It turned  out to be her mother's husband, who'd been shown supporting the mother in her grief.
Can't remember which show, but saw it several months ago.

I remember that one too, don't remember the show, but it was the stepdad. Creepy. Unfortunately, there are far too many of these murders that are committed by the stepfather or boyfriend, that's why they seem to run together. 

[Annber03]

3 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

This episode was extremely disturbing.  The first part was rather confusing to me and it seemed difficult to follow.  Later, it came together.  I wonder what happened to the younger daughter's dad, who was later murdered.  The odds of having both parents killed from murder.....boggles the mind.  

Oh, in the beginning of Shattered, the young daughter returns from a fishing trip to try to find her mom in the house.  Who was with the child?  The re-enactment shows another woman with her. Who was that?  It appeared that it might have been a family friend, who didn't want to be included in the tv show.  

I did a little searching online, but, couldn't find anything about the young daughter's dad's murder.  If anyone finds anything, will you post or PM me? I'm curious. 

I think she said it was the assistant manager of the apartment complex that was with her? Since she was locked out of the building when she arrived home, I think she went to get somebody to help let her in. 

As for her dad, this is all I could find that seemed to mention it-scroll down to the comment section of this article, somebody shared the link there:

https://tvcrimesky.com/2017/08/30/lori-jones-mike-braae-shattered-lady-killing-cowboys-good-looks-charmed-women-to-death-on-id-channel/606

Here's another article I found mentioning that crime as well: http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article150077402.html

This bit seems particularly telling:

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Williamson told police that he began planning to kill his father the previous night, and had made masks from pillow cases in preparation. Police found those masks at the scene.

The teen said he was upset that his father “didn’t do anything” in response to an earlier crime that had been committed against a family member.

 

I'm guessing that's alluding to the Lori Jones murder.

So yeah. Talk about a tragic situation all around. 

Edited September 1, 2017 by Annber03

[SunnyBeBe]

14 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

I think she said it was the assistant manager of the apartment complex that was with her? Since she was locked out of the building when she arrived home, I think she went to get somebody to help let her in. 

As for her dad, this is all I could find that seemed to mention it-scroll down to the comment section of this article, somebody shared the link there:

https://tvcrimesky.com/2017/08/30/lori-jones-mike-braae-shattered-lady-killing-cowboys-good-looks-charmed-women-to-death-on-id-channel/606

Here's another article I found mentioning that crime as well: http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article150077402.html

This bit seems particularly telling:

I'm guessing that's alluding to the Lori Jones murder.

So yeah. Talk about a tragic situation all around. 

I appreciate the links, but, why do you think that Williamson is the father of Elisa Jones?  I suppose that they just don't share the same last name. 

[Annber03]

That was the link the person had shared in the comments when people asked about what happened to her father, so I just figure that's him as a result. That person could be wrong, though, who knows. I did wonder about the last name difference, too...but since Elisa's parents were divorced, perhaps she or her mom decided to have her keep her mom's last name, since she had been the one raising Elisa.

[KellsBells]

14 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

This episode was extremely disturbing.  The first part was rather confusing to me and it seemed difficult to follow.  Later, it came together.  I wonder what happened to the younger daughter's dad, who was later murdered.  The odds of having both parents killed from murder.....boggles the mind.  

 

Made me think of the story of Dr. Joseph Sonnier who was killed by his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. His ex-wife had been killed a couple of years before by her new boyfriend or husband, and, when the son first heard his dad had been killed at first he thought they might be related. They weren't but I could see that thought crossing his mind. 

[Otter]

Re:  Scott Peterson.  Just watched the third part.  Fake news personified.  I don't believe I've ever seen such a biased "documentary".  Amber is such a minor player in the entire saga "documented", and I never thought he wanted to spend his life with Amber, but with many "Ambers".  He sure didn't want to be tied down as a husband anymore and he did wish for infertility.  And next week features Jason Falconer -- who for sure had his own agenda.   He was excused as a juror for many reason, including contact with the Rocha family.   And how nice that the Peterson family is portrayed as so loving and virtuous.  "We want those" -- Jackie Peterson wanting Laci's rings that she inherited from her grandma.  

One thing -- I did start watching this and opened my mind willing to listen.  Stop digging, the hole gets deeper.  I can't imagine what else will be left out -- SP's own words all but confessing.   

[riley702]

4 hours ago, Otter said:

"We want those" -- Jackie Peterson wanting Laci's rings that she inherited from her grandma.

Yeah well, people in hell want ice water too, lady.

[walnutqueen]

1 hour ago, Midnight Sun said:

Okeedokee, in a nutshell, here is my take on the Scott Peterson case:  I'd like to punch him - right in his fat fucking face.  That is all.

Me too.  Which is why I didn't bother watching this shitshow.

[KellsBells]

20 hours ago, Otter said:

Re:  Scott Peterson.  Just watched the third part.  Fake news personified.  I don't believe I've ever seen such a biased "documentary".  Amber is such a minor player in the entire saga "documented", and I never thought he wanted to spend his life with Amber, but with many "Ambers".  He sure didn't want to be tied down as a husband anymore and he did wish for infertility.  And next week features Jason Falconer -- who for sure had his own agenda.   He was excused as a juror for many reason, including contact with the Rocha family.   And how nice that the Peterson family is portrayed as so loving and virtuous.  "We want those" -- Jackie Peterson wanting Laci's rings that she inherited from her grandma.  

One thing -- I did start watching this and opened my mind willing to listen.  Stop digging, the hole gets deeper.  I can't imagine what else will be left out -- SP's own words all but confessing.   

Excellent insight. I have to admit, I find it fascinating, but yeah, the poor, wrongly convicted Scott emphasis is ridic. Still, there ARE people (besides his immediate family) who believe he's innocent. And people who believe all kinda other crazy shit, as the news and the "news" makes clear every day. 

[Otter]

3 hours ago, KellsBells said:

Excellent insight. I have to admit, I find it fascinating, but yeah, the poor, wrongly convicted Scott emphasis is ridic. Still, there ARE people (besides his immediate family) who believe he's innocent. And people who believe all kinda other crazy shit, as the news and the "news" makes clear every day. 

There's a woman whose name I can't recollect who has made it her life's work to prove he's factually innocent.  I need to pay attention to the closing credits.  She ran (maybe still does) a website that she affirmed was based on the trial transcripts.  That was a lie and there were many on-line "sleuths" who also bought transcripts.  She cherry-picked testimony, or changed testimony.  Totally discredited.  However, the Peterson family loved her and thought her very effective.  She ran the family's blog.  Her entire theory is that SP was framed by some drug gang when he didn't succumb to blackmail.  Blackmail for what she never offered up.  She actually conducted a test that she said proved that Conner's body was planted.  To conduct the experiment she used a stuffed Kermit.  *rolleyes*

[SunnyBeBe]

19 hours ago, KellsBells said:

Excellent insight. I have to admit, I find it fascinating, but yeah, the poor, wrongly convicted Scott emphasis is ridic. Still, there ARE people (besides his immediate family) who believe he's innocent. And people who believe all kinda other crazy shit, as the news and the "news" makes clear every day. 

I saw bits and pieces that seemed quite strained and desperate.  Not sure what they were up to.  

OMG.  This was a shocker.  Anyone see a recent rerun of Lockup?  It's about inmates awaiting trial in various jails across the country.  They feature certain inmates and tell their stories.  This one young lady was featured who got 25 years for second degree murder.  She supposedly pushed her husband out of a window from a high rise building and he fell to his death.  She was 7 months pregnant and smaller than her husband.  She claimed self defense.  She turned down a 5 year plea deal!  Her mom was keeping her baby as she was to start her sentence. (It was on appeal.) I hadn't figured out if I believed her story or not.  It sounded like a freak thing.  HOWEVER, I just read that the girl was found DEAD in her cell!  Not sure if it was suicide.  It's ironic that on Lockup that featured a therapist talking to her after the sentencing and asking her if she was suicidal, as it's routine policy.  She said no, but, you could tell she was shaken to the core.  

 

http://nypost.com/2016/10/25/woman-who-pushed-husband-out-of-high-rise-window-found-dead-in-prison/

Here's another article about her death.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/autopsy-report-says-amber-hilberling-had-meth-in-system-at/article_24cd45b4-b6e8-52dc-b415-b72ce1998bdc.html

This story was ALSO featured on other shows as well. 

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline/51923589

Edited September 5, 2017 by SunnyBeBe

[Brattinella]

I never believed the Amber Hilberling case was murder.  Self-defense or accident; those floor-to-ceiling windows were made of SUPER INFERIOR quality.  There should not be such thin, fragile glass on the 25th floor of a building! So sad that she killed herself.

[SunnyBeBe]

That whole trial seemed off to me.  So many things that the state alleged that seemed unlikely to me.  Anyone see the trial?  I mean, the things that people CLAIMED they heard or saw from distances that that didn't add up. She messed up by not taking that 5 year deal though.  Now her child has no parents. 

Edited September 5, 2017 by SunnyBeBe

[KellsBells]

There are so many shows on the ID channel that claim the host/hostess is "searching for the truth" or for the "why" behind the crime. Usually, they're just re-tellings of crimes that have been covered extensively on other shows and there's no real "why" that ever makes sense. Rape, robbery, jealously -- the usual suspects that are no mystery. I'm thinking specifically of the new Killer Instinct with Chris Hanson show that was on earlier today. I've seen this story. The "why" was pretty obvious to anyone. 

[Annber03]

My favorite is the cliche of "asking the tough questions". Though that'one's an issue across all kinds of media, not just an ID channel thing. Still, it bugs me, especially since a lot of the time the "tough questions" they're asking are a) obvious ones that anyone would ask, or b) really inane questions. 

[Brattinella]

Okay, on Grave Mysteries tonight.  Murder of Samantha Lezark in Wichita Falls by Kris Russell.  I cannot find a photo of this murderer ANYWHERE!!

WTF?  Is he somebody famous SON?  Full name Kristopher Kyle Russell.  He got 99 years.

[riley702]

That IS weird.

[auntjess]

1 hour ago, Brattinella said:

Full name Kristopher Kyle Russell.  He got 99 years.

He shows up briefly in these news clips.
http://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/investigation-continues-into-death-of-woman-was-it-murder/664294720

http://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/target-3-special-report-stranger-danger/664315215

[Brattinella]

4 minutes ago, auntjess said:

He shows up briefly in these news clips.
http://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/investigation-continues-into-death-of-woman-was-it-murder/664294720

http://www.texomashomepage.com/news/local-news/target-3-special-report-stranger-danger/664315215

Thank you!  I can't understand why there are no mugshots or prison photos of him! 

[auntjess]

14 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

Thank you!  I can't understand why there are no mugshots or prison photos of him! 

I can't either.  And apparently he was later charged or suspected in his wife's death.

[Brattinella]

3 minutes ago, auntjess said:

I can't either.  And apparently he was later charged or suspected in his wife's death.

He must have connections somewhere.  Some family that doesn't want their precious son besmirched on the internet.  He also killed his wife in Nebraska within 2 months of Samantha's murder. 

Oops!  That WAS his wife.  I may contact the news station, it is fairly local to me and I want to know why this guy is being shielded!

Edited September 6, 2017 by Brattinella

[SunnyBeBe]

What gets me in these shows about neighborhood feuds is how supposedly smart and law abiding people so easily chide neighbors whom they know are unstable and trigger happy.  Instead of keeping a situation from escalating, they seem to throw fuel on it.  Like, how does challenging the irritated neighbor going to help?  Then, there is blood shed and shock....why?  Anyone with half a brain could have seen it coming.  lol

[TheGreenWave]

I made the mistake of watching all three hours of the Chandra Levy special on TLC.  It was so poorly done.  They spent an entire segment on a "tip" that she was killed by some gang out in California.  Good God.  In three hours, they provided no timeline of events, no analysis of her apartment or crime scene, and the bombshell interview (FIRST TIME ON TELEVISION!!) with the private investigator was boring (he's the one that described the gang tip) and then at the end he's like: yeah, based on the information I've gathered, I have a reasonable belief of who did it...but I'm not going to tell you!  They couldn't scare up any former coworkers or friends or whatever.  Every show I've seen about her makes it look like she had practically no friends out in DC, so no insights about her other than from her family. 

[ButterQueen]

On 9/1/2017 at 11:23 PM, KellsBells said:

Made me think of the story of Dr. Joseph Sonnier who was killed by his girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. His ex-wife had been killed a couple of years before by her new boyfriend or husband, and, when the son first heard his dad had been killed at first he thought they might be related. They weren't but I could see that thought crossing his mind. 

I was just going to post this.  The ex-wife was killed by her new husband.  If only they had stayed married....they would be alive.  So tragic!

Edited September 6, 2017 by ButterQueen

[cbreeze]

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HELP!  I clicked on the jizz video from CUEVEECEEGIRL, not knowing what it was.  What a disgusting , horrible song.  My problem is that I can't get it off - it keeps playing over and over.  I cannot mute it or close it.   It's haunting my computer!  And I'm getting madder and madder.

Any and all help and suggestions for getting it to stop playing most gratefully accepted.

[Jaded]

3 minutes ago, cbreeze said:

HELP!  I clicked on the jizz video from CUEVEECEEGIRL, not knowing what it was.  What a disgusting , horrible song.  My problem is that I can't get it off - it keeps playing over and over.  I cannot mute it or close it.   It's haunting my computer!  And I'm getting madder and madder.

Any and all help and suggestions for getting it to stop playing most gratefully accepted.

Did you post this in the wrong thread?

[cbreeze]

3 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Did you post this in the wrong thread?

Yes, I did.  I tried to delete it.  I don't know how I got into this thread.  So sorry.  Please disregard it.  My computer seems to have a mind of its own today.

Edited September 6, 2017 by cbreeze

[Brattinella]

Is there really a porn forum here?

[walnutqueen]

23 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

Is there really a porn forum here?

Heh!  Pretty sure that's coming from the Shopping Channel thread - small difference.  ;-)

[editorgrrl]

26 minutes ago, Brattinella said:

Is there really a porn forum here?

I think someone in the Shopping Channels forum misheard "sun-kissed" makeup as "sun jizz" on someone's face.

[Akhna]

14 hours ago, TheGreenWave said:

I made the mistake of watching all three hours of the Chandra Levy special on TLC. 

Oh it aired already? I'm so glad, the last two weeks I've been waiting for it to finally run so I don't have to hear that lady in the promo for it say "lit-e-r-ally" anymore.

Shattered has been really well done and heartbreaking. Grave Mysteries, on the other hand, didn't impress me. The voiceover stuff they were doing for the online chat logs just really bugged me and even though I was listening more than watching, it seemed like they were flashing words from the chat logs onscreen for super dramatic effect. I just found it offputting.

[Brattinella]

7 hours ago, Akhna said:

Oh it aired already? I'm so glad, the last two weeks I've been waiting for it to finally run so I don't have to hear that lady in the promo for it say "lit-e-r-ally" anymore.

Is that the one with Connie Chung saying she was "LITERALLY PULLING TEETH".  Jeez, Connie, didn't you go to school?  Were you actually doing dentistry in your interview?  When did that word transform into the opposite meaning?

[TheGreenWave]

9 hours ago, Akhna said:

Oh it aired already?

Looks like they aired all three hours on TLC back-to-back, and now it is being played by ID (just saw the ID preview last night).

 

1 hour ago, Brattinella said:

Is that the one with Connie Chung saying she was "LITERALLY PULLING TEETH".  Jeez, Connie, didn't you go to school?  Were you actually doing dentistry in your interview?  When did that word transform into the opposite meaning?

HA HA!  She was so serious when explaining how she landed the Condit interview ("I rapid-fired five questions at him and sat really, really close to him- you know, intimidation") and then he was giving her one-word responses.  Again, even her interview for the program was super boring.  

OT: I don't know if anyone else remembers this, but I just cannot look at CC the same way after she and her husband Maury Povich had their show together and he was playing the piano and she was on top of it singing.  Can't. Forget.

[iMonrey]

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I never believed the Amber Hilberling case was murder. 

If it's the same case I'm thinking of, then I did believe she was guilty of murder. The husband had even told his parents he was thinking about taking a restraining order against her and his parents begged him to stay away from her. She just wasn't believable on the witness stand either.

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There's a woman whose name I can't recollect who has made it her life's work to prove (Scott Peterson's) factually innocent.  I need to pay attention to the closing credits.  She ran (maybe still does) a website that she affirmed was based on the trial transcripts.  That was a lie and there were many on-line "sleuths" who also bought transcripts.  She cherry-picked testimony, or changed testimony.  Totally discredited.  However, the Peterson family loved her and thought her very effective.  She ran the family's blog.  

Yep! She was the featured talking head (along with another regular poster on her website) on the latest installment of "We're trying to prove Scott Peterson is innocent, and doing a laughably bad job."

[kathyk24]

Anyone watch Shattered last night? I thought it was interesting that the murderer was sympathetic and the victim was a villain. That's unusual for an ID show.

[Brattinella]

9 minutes ago, kathyk24 said:

Anyone watch Shattered last night? I thought it was interesting that the murderer was sympathetic and the victim was a villain. That's unusual for an ID show.

I did watch it, and it was different.  The mother seemed (to me) to be playing a psychic, stating all manner of things AS FACT when she would have no knowledge of it.  I am so sorry she lost her sons. 

[One Tough Cookie]

Well I don't ever want to see a show about OJ, Scott or Drew Peterson, Natalie Holloway, Chandra Levy, or Charles Manson. I'm done.  I do want more on Pam Hupp--so Keith Morrison better get busy. I am beyond disgusted that Ms. Van Houten was approved for parole.  How old would Baby  Polanski be today?  Somewhere in his early  50s ,no?  Gov. Brown--search your soul and do the right thing and keep this murdering bitch in jail until she dies.

I have really bad hand problems and find typing nxt to impossible, but I want you all to know I read and enjoy everyone's posts and points of view.

[Otter]

On 9/6/2017 at 4:45 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

What gets me in these shows about neighborhood feuds is how supposedly smart and law abiding people so easily chide neighbors whom they know are unstable and trigger happy.  Instead of keeping a situation from escalating, they seem to throw fuel on it.  Like, how does challenging the irritated neighbor going to help?  Then, there is blood shed and shock....why?  Anyone with half a brain could have seen it coming.  lol

I'm watching a few episodes now and you're so right!  Very weird show.  Then again, you see the same darn thing on Judge Judy without the violence.  Close to that.  :D  

[Otter]

4 hours ago, kathyk24 said:

Anyone watch Shattered last night? I thought it was interesting that the murderer was sympathetic and the victim was a villain. That's unusual for an ID show.

There's many times when the murderer is sympathetic.  There's an old saying ... "he needed killing".  ID did a story about Cody Posey which was horrifying!  Murder is never pretty, but I guess enough is enough.  I still remember the first time I saw "The Burning Bed".  I can't remember his name, but after years of physical abuse, a kid shot his horrible father with a shotgun.  Everyone hated the man.  He killed his father when "dad" started raping his little sisters.  

But didn't see the show, so no idea of the context.  Just understand the sympathy given a murderer.  :)

[Brattinella]

22 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I am beyond disgusted that Ms. Van Houten was approved for parole.  How old would Baby  Polanski be today?  Somewhere in his early  50s ,no?  Gov. Brown--search your soul and do the right thing and keep this murdering bitch in jail until she dies.

AMEN!  Gov Moonbeam, she was sentenced TO DEATH! At the very least, due to the unfortunate overturning of the Death Penalty, LWOP!!!

[auntjess]

9 hours ago, kathyk24 said:

Anyone watch Shattered last night? I thought it was interesting that the murderer was sympathetic and the victim was a villain. That's unusual for an ID show.

I've seen so many people, who did worse things for no reason, and they didn't get a sentence that harsh.  Maybe after the show airs, it will build up some push for a commutation.

[renatae]

Just saw "Fear thy Neighbor" Lake of Madness and that guy killing that entire family just infuriated me. He was such a jerk. They tried to say there was some "commotion" that must have agitated him, and I  can see maybe the other man may have said something to him after the police left, but he shot the guy, who had previously tried to befriend him, in the back of the head, then shoots the 13 year old 3 times as she came out of the house, then chased down the mother and the 11 year ols, killing them in the house and tearung out the phone. Obviously, no one but the hudband could have caused him to lose it, since everyone else was in the house. Killing the kids was despicable. He really seemed like a nasty control freak of a guy.

Sorry about the typos!