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Wasn't me!

I think having the HUGE-budget "Game of Thrones" in there is a bit of cheat compared to network TV for things like "CGI" and "Sets".  It's tough NOT to vote for a zombie dragon.  Just sayin'.

 

ETA:  Although my vote will ultimately go to Dean Winchester -- man... Arya Stark gives him a run for his money with her move on Walter Frey.  

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RE the Previouslies:

They hide the choices after voting so I am probably missing some so look through the categories.  I do recollect definitely  that SPN is in the finals for:

Biggest Badass: Dean Winchester

Most Useless Character: Mary Winchester

Best Performance by an Inanimate Object : Baby, the Impala.

Fanservice Moment: Gabriel's return

Scene you can't unsee:  Lucifer and Sister Jo's grace sucking scenes.

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So the Teen Choice Award noms are out and we can finally stop fighting about which actor in the show should be nominated.  None of them are this year.  However the show is up for Choice Sci-Fi/Fantasy Show, so we can all put our votes to that.  I mean if you want. :)

Choice Sci-Fi/Fantasy TV Show (#ChoiceSciFiTVShow)
iZombie
Shadowhunters: The Mortal Instruments
Stranger Things
Supernatural
The 100
The Originals

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3 hours ago, catrox14 said:

So the Teen Choice Award noms are out and we can finally stop fighting about which actor in the show should be nominated.  None of them are this year.  However the show is up for Choice Sci-Fi/Fantasy Show, so we can all put our votes to that.  I mean if you want. :)

Choice Sci-Fi/Fantasy TV Show (#ChoiceSciFiTVShow)
iZombie
Shadowhunters: The Mortal Instruments
Stranger Things
Supernatural
The 100
The Originals

It will be interesting to see if SPN can hold up when that's the only reason to visit the site. I would love to know if there is a significant difference in the total numbers of hits/votes to the actors' pages.

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3 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It will be interesting to see if SPN can hold up when that's the only reason to visit the site. I would love to know if there is a significant difference in the total numbers of hits/votes to the actors' pages.

I'm not quite following what you mean here. Can you elaborate?

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2 hours ago, catrox14 said:

I'm not quite following what you mean here. Can you elaborate?

I mean when one of the boys is nominated, the hits to the voting site/votes go up (that's my assumption, because J2 fans love to vote) - I would like to know if there is a significant drop in the overall number of votes when they aren't among the nominees.

And people who are motivated to go and vote for one of them would probably vote for the show at the same time, more-so, IMO, than going there just to vote for the show. (i.e., I would go and vote for Jensen and throw the show a vote while I'm there, but I'm not likely to bother just to vote for the show.) Does that help?

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1 minute ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I mean when one of the boys is nominated, the hits to the voting site/votes go up (that's my assumption, because J2 fans love to vote) - I would like to know if there is a significant drop in the overall number of votes when they aren't among the nominees.

And people who are motivated to go and vote for one of them would probably vote for the show at the same time, more-so, IMO, than going there just to vote for the show. (i.e., I would go and vote for Jensen and throw the show a vote while I'm there, but I'm not likely to bother just to vote for the show.) Does that help?

It does! Thank you!

Yeah, I really do wonder if the hits from Shadowhunters and Lucifer fandom will make up for the SPN fandom dropping off.

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5 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It will be interesting to see if SPN can hold up when that's the only reason to visit the site. I would love to know if there is a significant difference in the total numbers of hits/votes to the actors' pages.

I know for me personally, it's not worth it to just go vote for the show when the show's writing has gone down so much. In the early seasons, I probably would have but not now.

On 6/12/2018 at 8:54 PM, catrox14 said:

RE the Previouslies:

They hide the choices after voting so I am probably missing some so look through the categories.  I do recollect definitely  that SPN is in the finals for:

Biggest Badass: Dean Winchester

Most Useless Character: Mary Winchester

Best Performance by an Inanimate Object : Baby, the Impala.

Fanservice Moment: Gabriel's return

Scene you can't unsee:  Lucifer and Sister Jo's grace sucking scenes.

Is this just the first round still or are they on the second round?

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2 minutes ago, Res said:

I know for me personally, it's not worth it to just go vote for the show when the show's writing has gone down so much. In the early seasons, I probably would have but not now.

Is this just the first round still or are they on the second round?

This is the 2nd round. 

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On 6/12/2018 at 9:54 PM, catrox14 said:

Most Useless Character: Mary Winchester

The category is actually "Most Disposable Character" and when I read it I thought it said Most Despicable Character and I was surprised (but not unhappy, lol) to see Mary listed in the final round. LOL! Not gonna lie, it wasn't until after I voted for her I actually noticed the correct category title. Heh.

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14 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

The category is actually "Most Disposable Character" and when I read it I thought it said Most Despicable Character and I was surprised (but not unhappy, lol) to see Mary listed in the final round. LOL! Not gonna lie, it wasn't until after I voted for her I actually noticed the correct category title. Heh.

Oh sorry.  Useless? Disposable? I guess those were interchangeable in my mind LOL

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I know social media Q is important these days and any mentions are good mentions, but good Chuck I loathe E! and all things E! related. I'm not sorry at all not to have to give them hits.

FWIW I don't think anyone can hold a candle to the tenacity of the Lucifer fandom right now anyway. They were relentless and got their show a season on Netflix, ffs. LOL

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1 hour ago, catrox14 said:

SPN is up for PCA again. Only the show in total. No other noms.

https://pca.eonline.com/#vote/cat26

I will NEVER give them clicks. Not after SPN won best drama - not sci-fi, fantasy, etc., but BEST FUCKING DRAMA, and they didn't even acknowledge it on air, much less have any of the stars attend. Never, never, never will I forgive them for that. Of course they did acknowledge Best Comedy complete with cast on air. FUCK THEM!

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11 minutes ago, FlickChick said:

I will NEVER give them clicks. Not after SPN won best drama - not sci-fi, fantasy, etc., but BEST FUCKING DRAMA, and they didn't even acknowledge it on air, much less have any of the stars attend. Never, never, never will I forgive them for that. Of course they did acknowledge Best Comedy complete with cast on air. FUCK THEM!

 I can understand this.

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Hopefully, this drop is appropriate in this thread:

On another website for fans, there's a rumor that JA is being considered/has already been chosen as the next Batman!   The word is that he was suggested to be the Bacchus King by Academy award winning actor JK Simmons, who gets to recommend someone after being a previous King.  They say that this honor is given to hot celebs or to someone who has an A-List role coming up.  JK is supposed to play Commissioner Gordon in the next Batman movie and him nominating JA for Mardi Gras is to get JA some good publicity to get his name a wider social media awareness for the announcement that will be coming.  We will see....

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7 minutes ago, patty1h said:

Hopefully, this drop is appropriate in this thread:

On another website for fans, there's a rumor that JA is being considered/has already been chosen as the next Batman!   The word is that he was suggested to be the Bacchus King by Academy award winning actor JK Simmons, who gets to recommend someone after being a previous King.  They say that this honor is given to hot celebs or to someone who has an A-List role coming up.  JK is supposed to play Commissioner Gordon in the next Batman movie and him nominating JA for Mardi Gras is to get JA some good publicity to get his name a wider social media awareness for the announcement that will be coming.  We will see....

OMG.

Please let this be true.

Please, Please, PLEASE!!!!

*fingers, toes, eyes, and anything else that can be crossed*

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While this would be great, I gotta realistically say that while I could see Warner going with not a name actor like Affleck again, I thought their current buisness plan was taking a breather on Batman/Superman, that is after the next Batman movie that I think will still be with Affleck?

Maybe it`s another cool Warner project, though?

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56 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

... the next Batman movie that I think will still be with Affleck?

Actually news just came out that Affleck is out for the next Batman movie to be released in 2021 (I think?). But word is they are going to go with a somewhat  younger version of Batman, sort of mid-career detective noir (which would be a nice change from previous films). Jensen is 6 years younger than Affleck, but he might still be considered too old. I'm holding out tenuous hope for Jensen to play Hal Jorden in a Green Lantern movie currently being written. I wish he could have managed to take some time off to film previous movie roles he has been offered - I worry a little his profile will be too low when SPN finally does end to be in the running for high profile movie parts.

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1 minute ago, Wateroflife said:

Actually news just came out that Affleck is out for the next Batman movie to be released in 2021 (I think?). But word is they are going to go with a somewhat  younger version of Batman, sort of mid-career detective noir (which would be a nice change from previous films). Jensen is 6 years younger than Affleck, but he might still be considered too old. I'm holding out tenuous hope for Jensen to play Hal Jorden in a Green Lantern movie currently being written. I wish he could have managed to take some time off to film previous movie roles he has been offered - I worry a little his profile will be too low when SPN finally does end to be in the running for high profile movie parts.

Depends. Momoa is just one year younger and they'll obviously interested in him for multiple AQM movies now. Iffy in Green Lantern because of the sucky script last time.

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1 hour ago, patty1h said:

.. there's a rumor that JA is being considered/has already been chosen as the next Batman! .... JK is supposed to play Commissioner Gordon in the next Batman movie and him nominating JA for Mardi Gras...

I would dearly wish this to be true but wouldn't bet money on it. JK Simmons would also make a wonderful Commissioner Gordon. I fully support both of these fancastings.

9 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

Depends. Momoa is just one year younger and they'll obviously interested in him for multiple AQM movies now. Iffy in Green Lantern because of the sucky script last time.

Oh that gives me hope 😊. Actually the GL movie will be very different from the previous crapfest. It's supposed to be total reboot about the handoff from an older Jordan to a younger guy (like John Stewart), more like a lethal weapon cop story.

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I saw this last night. I did think of Jensen. The blurb I read said the movie would be based on Year One and that Batman is in his mid 20s. But the studio wanted someone in their thirties. I don't want to get my hopes up for Jensen, but it sure feels my theory about Dean....hmmmm

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5 hours ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Just Jared (disclosure, I loathe Just Jared) is running a poll on who we think should be the next Batman, and Jensen's name is on there. Although, so is Jared's, so there's that.

http://www.justjared.com/2019/01

For what it's worth, he's currently winning by a landslide.

http://www.justjared.com/2019/01/31/who-should-play-batman-after-ben-afflecks-departure-vote-now/

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Performer of the month? Jared must have a helluva publicist, lol. Jared has set the bar so low that when he does have an admittedly good performance it gets an inordinate amount of attention. I just can't get past the stuttering/breathless-delivery-as-emotion myself.  Meanwhile, Jensen's consistently great performances get taken for granted. The curse of excellence, I suppose. 

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30 minutes ago, Supafanstan said:

Performer of the month? Jared must have a helluva publicist, lol. Jared has set the bar so low that when he does have an admittedly good performance it gets an inordinate amount of attention. I just can't get past the stuttering/breathless-delivery-as-emotion myself.  Meanwhile, Jensen's consistently great performances get taken for granted. The curse of excellence, I suppose. 

Jared also ranked #5 on Social Media television talent for E300...the same week as the Grammys.  He was the only actor on the list.  On SpoilerTv Jared was the only actor ever nominated from Supernatural and it was the first nomination for the show.  All in all pretty good exposure for the show that week.

I tend to disagree about Jared's acting.  I think when he has the opportunity to act against a top tier actor (and the writing is above average) he excels.  Unlike Jensen who has the unique ability to elevate the other actor in a scene.  As well as the ability to take mediocre dialog and make it into something a little more special. They each have their own strengths.

SpoilerTv is a fan based poll.  It was the fans that voted him overwhelmingly the favorite for the month.

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37 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said:

They each have their own strengths.

I agree.

For example, I tend to like Jared's comedic turns better than Jensen's, because I tend to like more "dry" humor. Not that I don't find some slapstick funny at times, I just tend to be a bit pickier about it. But for example comparing "Yellow Fever" to "Bad Day at Black Rock," I like the second one much more in terms of comedy. I'm not including the darker more serious scenes where I think Jensen did an excellent job of conveying his growing terror and desperation. The comedy stuff though, I generally prefer Jared who can make me smile just by looking sheepishly at the camera and saying "I lost my shoe" or laugh just by saying "should I honk?" Every. Time.

In my opinion, there's real talent in that.

1 hour ago, Supafanstan said:

Jared has set the bar so low that when he does have an admittedly good performance it gets an inordinate amount of attention.

Based on Jared's performances in the past few episodes, I have no trouble seeing how he got the two recognitions that were mentioned here, but then again I've generally enjoyed his portrayal of Sam and find his performance to be underrated, so to each their own.

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5 hours ago, Supafanstan said:

Performer of the month? Jared must have a helluva publicist, lol. Jared has set the bar so low that when he does have an admittedly good performance it gets an inordinate amount of attention. I just can't get past the stuttering/breathless-delivery-as-emotion myself.  Meanwhile, Jensen's consistently great performances get taken for granted. The curse of excellence, I suppose. 

LOL  I have to say that's how I took it.  It's like it was better than usual but he still hasn't really moved past that scrunch nose/forehead style of acting.  Jensen's problem is he's made it look easy for so long he gets taken for granted.  Even something small, like the scene a couple episodes ago where Dean is telling Mary about the Winchester Surprise that Dad threw out, I got teary eyed about it and it wasn't even an especially emotional scene, but even as he wasn't "making a big deal out of" he made it so easy to imagine a young Dean trying to do something for his family that they could enjoy and John just...well let's just say over-reacting.  It was really sad without being portrayed in a way that was cloying or trying to force a moment.

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I think Jared has had some good moments. Unfortunately, I found the 300th just too much crying. I remember when Jared talked about Sam crying vs Jared crying and I'm not sure all the crying wasn't Jared as much as Sam.
 

I think he did better work in Prophet and Loss than the 300th. 

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I would agree that Jensen doesn't really get recognition anymore (and you can forget it from a place like spoiler.tv or most of this fandom even if he were nominated because lots of his fans have given up on the show) but it's also kinda his fault for sticking with the show. At this point the only way to go is down.

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Maybe I follow the wrong folk on twitter, but I find that out there beyond the couple of dozen of posters here at PrevTV that the fan favourite is definitely weighted towards Jared with Misha a close second. They are the more sympathetic characters.  Even the 'squee' groups that consider themselves 'friends' of the show appear to favour Sam (IMO) or demand the brothers remain joined at the hip.

The majority of  viewers do not want 'tragedy' . It's the reason much of today's so-called 'drama' TV is the same syrupy rubbish (IMO). They've even woobified Negan apparently.

However, I do believe that it is Jensen that the LA casting directors have their eyes on.  He's been approached several times but can never get out of his contract. He's the better actor with a wider range (IMO). 

But I'm sensing the thrill of portraying the complex and complicated Dean Winchester is slowly fading for Jensen (my opinion).  He cannot get his teeth into anything with these writers.

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11 hours ago, Aeryn13 said:

I would agree that Jensen doesn't really get recognition anymore (and you can forget it from a place like spoiler.tv or most of this fandom even if he were nominated because lots of his fans have given up on the show) but it's also kinda his fault for sticking with the show. At this point the only way to go is down.

I could not agree more.

He outgrew the writing on this show in S3, IMO. Staying on after that was understandable to a degree, but now? No. Not IMO either and especially after what's happened this season.

At this point(and again IMO), if he's not seeing that Dabb and co. no longer want to write for him or his character then I can only put it down to denial or that the $ is more important to him than creativity within his craft. And that's sad because he still has so much to offer the world and his fandom in that regard.

These kind of nominations are studio and promotionally generated, IMO and to me the studio is only interested in promoting JP, at this point. And he is, of course, interested in promoting himself-nothing wrong with that, but IIRC gonzosgirrl(where is she?) recently mentioned that JP had gone on a mad tweeting binge for the 300th episode with practically nothing from JA(and who knows, maybe JA even refrained in order to help him-that seems like the kind of thing he would do to help a friend, IMO) out there-and then we learn that, lo and behold, JP was in the top 10 on the SM front, too.

Jensen has broken the internet twice this year-when he put that Red Hood costume on and when he was announced as being the next Bacchus King-and there was no need for him to go on a tweeting binge to do that.

I really DO hope that he's got something else in the hopper acting-wise because now I'd say that strictly staying with Supernatural is surely doing his career far more harm than good.

1 hour ago, SueB said:

Jensen got performer of the week (honorable mention) for Regarding Dean.  That's not that long ago.  At least not in Supernatural timeline.

It was over two years ago, and IIRC, no few Dean fans, and even some here, saw that episode as the final death knell for Dean under Dabb.

And it doesn't make me happy to now have to say that I think they were right.

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These kind of nominations are studio and promotionally generated, 

The spoiler.tv "performer of the month" thing? Nah, that`s just a little feature the site came up with. Supernatural isn`t a big show there anymore, not for years but when Jared got the nomination, it was shared a lot around tumblr and other fansites of his. Normally, it`s a very in-house with the spoiler.tv crowd so the same few actors from Supergirl, 100, Arrow and occasionally Outlander are nominated and voted for. There is no real promotion for it and I doubt studios or networks are aware.

They also have this yearly character contest where lots and lots of fictional characters from various fandoms are pitted against each other to find the "ultimate character cup". Dean won several years back in its first year, Cas won couple years ago. Both can no longer compete as all previous winners are uneligible.  

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10 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

The spoiler.tv "performer of the month" thing? Nah, that`s just a little feature the site came up with. Supernatural isn`t a big show there anymore, not for years but when Jared got the nomination, it was shared a lot around tumblr and other fansites of his. Normally, it`s a very in-house with the spoiler.tv crowd so the same few actors from Supergirl, 100, Arrow and occasionally Outlander are nominated and voted for. There is no real promotion for it and I doubt studios or networks are aware.

They also have this yearly character contest where lots and lots of fictional characters from various fandoms are pitted against each other to find the "ultimate character cup". Dean won several years back in its first year, Cas won couple years ago. Both can no longer compete as all previous winners are uneligible.  

Ah well, thanks for the info. They've never seemed to be any kind of a real award-type deal to me-and that even when Jensen would win. I just figured studios were involved through their SM promotions-all I saw from the spn account after Prophet and Loss was that scene of Sam punching Dean-and this even when I felt Jensen stole that scene right out from under JP via the end end part of it and not to mention I felt that Dean's nightmare in the box involved far better acting, too-and yet nothing from the spn twitter acount on that except a shot of the box, and nothing else, under the water.

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Jensen did also receive performer of the week from TVLine for Soul Survivor.  He received and honorable mention twice for Regading Dean and for the scene with Chuck. I can't remember the episode name right now. 

I still can't believe he didn't get it for Nihilism.

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33 minutes ago, Myrelle said:

Ah well, thanks for the info. They've never seemed to be any kind of a real award-type deal to me-and that even when Jensen would win. I just figured studios were involved through their SM promotions-all I saw from the spn account after Prophet and Loss was that scene of Sam punching Dean-and this even when I felt Jensen stole that scene right out from under JP via the end end part of it and not to mention I felt that Dean's nightmare in the box involved far better acting, too-and yet nothing from the spn twitter acount on that except a shot of the box, and nothing else, under the water.

I've been following that @cw_spn account for a while, and the Facebook account as well - I think they are run by the same person? The twitter account rarely recognizes Dean/Jensen and definitely seem to be Sam/Jared slanted - but they never seem particularly enthused about the show even. The most excitement they ever show seems to be when the wayward women are involved. The Facebook account posts as much about the other CW shows as they do Supernatural. It's the strangest 'publicity' I've ever seen. Even for the CW, they suck. Honestly, thank God for EW or there would never be anything exciting posted about the show or the actors that isn't fan-war-generated nonsensical 'awards' like the spoiler thing. 

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3 hours ago, Aeryn13 said:

The spoiler.tv "performer of the month" thing? Nah, that`s just a little feature the site came up with. Supernatural isn`t a big show there anymore, not for years but when Jared got the nomination, it was shared a lot around tumblr and other fansites of his. Normally, it`s a very in-house with the spoiler.tv crowd so the same few actors from Supergirl, 100, Arrow and occasionally Outlander are nominated and voted for. There is no real promotion for it and I doubt studios or networks are aware.

They also have this yearly character contest where lots and lots of fictional characters from various fandoms are pitted against each other to find the "ultimate character cup". Dean won several years back in its first year, Cas won couple years ago. Both can no longer compete as all previous winners are uneligible.  

It is still nice recognition for the show and the actors.  Jensen was on the staff nominated list but wasn't in the running for the lead for performer of the month.  

The social media rating was a bigger deal.

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8 hours ago, Casseiopeia said:

It is still nice recognition for the show and the actors.  Jensen was on the staff nominated list but wasn't in the running for the lead for performer of the month.  

The social media rating was a bigger deal.

To me the social media ratings are pretty stupid. You are in it if you tweet a lot and generate lots of activity that way. The content absolutely has no bearing in it.

As for Spoiler.tv, nice that at least someone on the staff appreciates Jensen. Like I said, I'm certainly not expecting it from the fan crowd there these days.    

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10 hours ago, Aeryn13 said:

To me the social media ratings are pretty stupid. You are in it if you tweet a lot and generate lots of activity that way. The content absolutely has no bearing in it.

As for Spoiler.tv, nice that at least someone on the staff appreciates Jensen. Like I said, I'm certainly not expecting it from the fan crowd there these days.    

Tweeting is also being counted towards the shows overall rating (better ratings more advertising dollars, more funding for the show).  And it is getting harder to make the top ten list. That is why fans are encouraged to tweet about the show using #Supernatural.  I'm not sure how SM television talent figures in but it was nice that Jared an actor on Supernatural was #5 on the top ten list.  Supernatural also trended and was in the top ten for the week.  That with a popular fanbased website win it was a pretty nice week for the show.

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